Amazon exec gets ripped to shreds by Labour MPs over working conditions in select committee hearing 

I think about the tens of thousands of complete and Utter morons and Retards that stay in a job they hate or unhappy at work FFS

Truuuuuuu

He is a parasite. A Bezos parasite.

😊😊😊

The word shithouse comes to mind

Me too as driver, what the MP said about them not being listened to at all is so true. The workload is inhumane. The hotline never worked lol.

read my comment, be interested if you had a similar experience

Glad you got out alive. Amazon needs unionising

Hey, as long as we consumers get our cheap goods the next day, or sooner, no one really cares < - - - that's the problem (maybe?) And that is a terrible state of affairs, when we don't care for those that are just like us, while the parasites at the top benefit. Personally, I don't use Amazon (if it means I go without for a wee while, then so be it.) SUPPORT LOCALLY. :) PS - Hope you've found better employment, citizen.

Not like anything will change though. The powers that be let Amazon do as they please, because money.

Jeff saving cost

He was there to push the corporate speak lexicon…and failed spectacularly 😂

Typical amazon suit...talks "english". Got to admire the MP's work ethic...they've done the homework to make this guy/amazon struggle. I loved the effort to reach understanding or exposing of the aims of amazon. Lastly..."fullfilment centre" is amazon speak for "huge computerised Warehouse"...FFS, that shows you what these people are up to.

They should go like, so you got no idea of your stuff, that's no problem for us we will just hand you your own arse until you do

more to the point, WTF are you doing, being one of the largest employers in the country?

Tories are in bed with corporate giants and always will be

Some of Labour are yes. John Tricker there for example very good left wing MP.

@Rosemarie Cardin No. You can't tar individuals with your opinion of Starmer. I'm very left leaning and see no future for Labour under Starmer BUT there are a good amount of decent Labour MPs. By decent I mean as people as well as politicians. Tories are literally racist, xenophobic, fascistic con men/women. Almost to a man. There are differences.

The same party that voted for mandatory experimental gene therapy to be injected into healthy people , locking the country down denying medical help( 7 million people now waiting for operations ) the mental development of children , denying the visitation of dying family members , almost bankrupting the country , making the rich richer and powerful and now we the people who can least afford tax rises are paying for it . Yeah Labour are really looking after your interests .

@@jake751 are you living on planet earth?

If he keeps it that way , he can maintain an image of benefactor, while still controlling everything, if he pays employyes mor and give them better condition he loses control...

Total BS, people like him will give nothing away unless they get something in return. Must be a PR stunt. I'm not even convinced by similar claims about Bill Gates anymore after some of the more sinister things I found out about him.

100%

Are you hiring? lol, we have the same brain. But seriously how do you find the courage to start your own business. I am saving up and should have 20k in 3 months but I don't know how to take the leap and start my own business

It is not just Amazon. It is now like this everywhere now. Cos too many people relies on the "data".. and what they do not seem to know, or to realise is that, some people have been giving off the same set of datas... i.e. Daisy-chaining or recircling... So this is why, from their end-angle.. It seems to make sense. Cos somebody fed them lies basically. Just like, the Ukraine war.. Somebody somewhere stated that.. The Russian PM was given lies by his own very intelligence people as well.. and if you noted.. other countries did not intervene to step up and to correct this as well. So then the country went to war. And of course, media showdown...?? You know. The usual. Out of every bad scenario.. There is always somebody making money. Always.

@@AA-ws2uw just don't invest in crypto currency

@@fuckbankers I've got some FTX stocks if you're interested 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@fuckbankers I would never, I don't even understand it. Thank you 😊

Heartless boss......machine.

So you were part of that system as a manager? The person doing the tracking and pulling people up based on what an algorithm told you?

Tesco was once a pretty decent employer, but what I hear about them now is not good .

Unlike other major supermarkets, Waitrose isn't owned by shareholders and the City. Instead, as part of the John Lewis Partnership, it's owned by everyone who works for the Partnership. (That's why Waitrose staff are called 'partners'.) And every year they share the profits that would normally go to shareholders.

@@rosso2017 sounds like they started before it got bad and now left, possibly cause of the poor conditions. I think you need to consider aiming your anger at those still there or who implement it rather than the person denouncing it.

@@jonsmith5058 : How can anybody take them down? Nobody can take them down now, can they? YOu are already using you tube.. to read this.. for free.. and you have no money, no heating.. and really a lack of food.. Who would be listening?? Oh right.. create a pitiful story like this, so then they edge it backwards ?? Slowly without killing you? ???? Who is "they" ???? When the rules of laws are broken.. and the very people who made things, are also in positions of powers that make policies that makes your life worst... Then what is left? They are in control. When people are in control.. and in power.. and then they also control the resources as well.... we are becoming a lower than low class. We are an under class now. This is what it is.

You can really see that they used to getting a much easier ride in the US. Just imagine if the government was on the side of workers! Not that Starmer is, but Labour would be a lot better than the Tories' neoliberal nihilism.

They just refuse to take apart the tech and roll it back. This is what is happening. It is very simple to fix really. So where are their guys? OH... they did not pay them enough. Or boycotted them. Or allowed them to be blackmailed. So convert to a manual/auto hybrid then... The FIGURES.. and the TRUTHFUL audit should exist. Who is doing this systems' audit? I bet they don't have one.... That is why this has landed them in sh!t.... as well. An external audit of the employment law versus the implementation of the systems.. and the Business Rule specification (based on LAW).. should've existed to begin with. I bet they did not have this. lol.... (But it is a good piece of electronic engineering....) ... F!ck. ( I don't even know why I am swearing so much this week... This lockdown really is just... I am so so so SO angry.)

They always think the they're the smartest people in the room, and very rarely are. 😐

@@capt.bart.roberts4975 These types of guys start building an entourage of yes men as soon as they get to junior executive positions. That impresses the senior executives, and when they get promoted, they are impressed by the next wave of con artists with yes men, and the cycle continues till almost all corporate executives are semi competent weasels at best.

@@Matt_Fields_29 Corporate hierarchies are almost entirely ones of competence. Seems you have no experience of this.

YES.

They have propaganda posters in the UK distribution centres against unions.

I imagine he means They don't, but they outsource union busting to expert consultants

Its also because they know that sum of money would cost nothing to them compared to the long financial needs for many years if they increase the pay just a little for thousands if not a hundred thousand staff members

whoever thought a tory would care about workers must have high hopes to meet Santa Claus soon again.

If you think Tory government or labour would stand up for workers against Amazon I think you’re slightly delusional

If you truly believe that any MPs from any party care about you, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. one careful previous owner, and it's going for a bargain price.

Amazon doesn’t care it’s happy to burn through people so it can get to its next goal. It will be fully automated very soon. All it needed was the human capital of a few years to get there.

There was a guy in America who died of a heart attack. he wasn't allowed time off to go to the doctors or seek medical care because he would've been fired. There was also a lady that had a miscarriage, and yes pissing in bottles is real.

@@beckyboop3517 : Bring back currency control... I don't want this fin tech world.

The more I watch youtube in this lockdown, the more I realise just how much redundant projects there are. No wonder the whole green debate is up for grab. i.e. Do not be pointless.

they should pelt the managers with the full bottles

He may not realise it, but he's as disposable as any other employee there.

@@DoctorBastard - Yes ! " ...that's some handle , honey ! " 👍👍😈

I don’t know. I think he withstood the q&a quite well given that he has nothing to work with aside empty corporate phrases?

Sadly I can see he's still there.

Amazon's tax-to-turnover ratio at just 0.37%. The higher rate of tax for working people is 40%

@@getheroutofthetruck : People do not realise that, we are now a nation of actual business owners... and we are no longer actual citizens. So this is why... if people cared to look... this is a meeting between the "Dept of Business and Energy & Industrial Strategy".... who.. I translate it as...."UK government's own Management Consultants". In reality, there are no more small businesses, there should be larger businesses... and then they use Amazon. But so far... so many people prefers to keep the actual political model.. and do not want to let go of the UK political model.. and to integrate further either. You can see the same thing in Europe too. Cos they refuse to let go of THEIR soveignty as well... This is nothing new... So... Many people although we had actual free movements and things.. many people only go to Europe.. and then come back. They did not move back there permanently either... So... They did not rebuild their EU government...

What strikes me about this, is not just the fact that Amazon don’t care about their workers, but how other employers in England behave towards their staff. I was a teacher in a large secondary school, where I saw colleagues constantly put under pressure to improve results. There was also an expectation that teaching staff ran after school sports clubs, matches, revision sessions. Teachers have always carried out these activities. What they haven’t always experienced is the aggressive ‘performance management’ of staff. This is couched in terms of ‘supportive, collaborative, effective management’, but is actually controlling and coercive behaviour. In the old days we would call it bullying, because that’s what it is. Our youngest son lives in America, and is very happy there. However worker’s rights are awful. Barely any paid leave, maternity leave is called sickness absence, long and arduous days. We really don’t need to be celebrating or aspiring to the ‘American Dream’ here, because it doesn’t exist!

@@traceybanting3952 : What Amazon should also have done, is to cap the number of their "business owners" on their listings. Filter out the fake ones. Consolidate.. and have formal meetings with those groups of people. Make an exclusive distributors accounts etc. Focus them. THEN... protect both their interests as well as their own as well... This is not even done???... I mean.. I would want an actual... there should have been an audit as well by HMRC... I am sure that.. something is going wrong.. And that the European finance. or Central Bank is not adding to the... I just... this is absurd !!!...

@SONofTHC that’s an outstanding comment! 😊👍

When I worked there as a dsp there was a poster on the wall demonising unions couldn't make this shit up

@@pocketmouses What did the poster say?

Well... this.,. tells me enough. Amazon is now actually....doing basically..."fake empty box selling"... Meaning that.. this is now...... "money laundering"... in a BIG scale. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vOj-tRTbFfY.html

@@lukesamuel5604 some stuff about unions reducing business effectiveness and therefore employee pay/benefits.

Some good leaked internal Amazon videos on RU-vid on their union busting practises.

Shes double dropped and rolling hard at this point. The endless blinking and jaw clenching stare give it away.

I wonder if the 3 sitting behind Brian Palmer were Amazon lawyers trying to look for loopholes for future damage control? 16∶25. The guy on the left is thinking "oh shit " as Palmer says "yes" ....while desperately shaking his head. Hahahaha

I noticed her also .. those eyes 😂

She’s creepy as fuck

& tax avoidance.

the Tories can’t destroy the country that much in 2 years, if they last the 2 years.

@@dannyfeller7034 watch them try 😢

@@dannyfeller7034 Look what they've done in 12 years, trebled the national debt, lost our place in the world's most successful trading block, lost our free movement, broken the NHS and trashed our reputation, never underestimate the harm they can cause, just look at what Truss managed in 44 days, I think that little experiment cost us £40bn.

​@@dannyfeller7034 there's already a bill on this going through Parliament.

There are unions but government reduces union power and then re-write the script in favour of the employer.

When I worked there aa a driver there was a poster on the wall demonising unions

Precisely, globalisation has afforded these companies far too much leverage over ordinary people, and indeed, the hand of national governments. Strong unions are required to rebalance this trend. Particularly, in the private sector.

Doesn't need to be unions though. government can set workers rights and benefits, but as we know big companies pay off governments to favour their companies. We need a massive change to stop oligarchs buying politicians.

@@beckyboop3517 : It exists... and this young American has not mentioned any single word of this.. and has absolutely NOT answered the questions posed. This is very typical.. AND normal too. If they just hired somebody from the UK properly. Would they get this kind of sh!t? Absolutely not. Plus... these people can indeed sue them. Obviously, they have not been sued... or that they will find an actual loophole ? So which way do you go ?? I bet that this has only reached this stage.. cos a lot of people in the UK including the City has shares in this organisation or something.. this is why they are promoting this. I don't even trust unions any more. Cos they do not do anything. I've joined before.. and they are very useless.. and just keep the administrators in a job. This is the sad thing of 21st century... Didn't expect the 90s to reach this stage of the millennia to be like this at all.

It's already in the NHS!

@@jacquipope6222 & has been for a long time thanks to tony blair, he installed whole layers of extra management, more at our local hospital than nurses, but you can't ever see any of them...they're all too busy apparently.

correct

It's a free labour market. if you don't like it. don't do the job. If Amazon cannot find workers, they will change. It has absolutely nothing to do with MPs or, god forbid, trade unions.

Possibly worse because RM workers have a Union.

It's no secret that Amazon UK alone has made something like £2 to £3 billion profit that has never been taxed, and this was something like 3 to 5 years ago. They will have greatly profited over Covid-19 pandemic because ordering online became an essential thing for millions of people. The UK has no lack of resources or lack of food and arable land to grow more, and yet we have food banks and people working full time but have to remain on social security benefits. And I don't mean they are fiddling the benefits system. People work 40 hours a week, and that money doesn't cover basic needs, so they give 85% of their wages back to the government so that they can keep their social security benefits. That is morally irreprehensible. And this is because we and the rest of the 'free world' refuse to tax billionaires and their global companies. The UK is double-jeopardy because we also refuse to tax the landed gentry. And yet our governments give global companies billions of tax payers money so that they'll set up shop in the Country. And this is not just the UK, the rest of Europe and the US do it as well. We are now officially back in a feudal system.

Count the ambulances

@@fuckbankers Zero that I've seen thus far in my four weeks there. Although, compulsory overtime starts next week, so that may change.

@@KMS2K keep safe.

@@fuckbankers Will do although I've already sprained my ankle since working there >_

@@KMS2K your health is the most important thing. You only have one body and one life. Don't sacrifice it for a soulless corporation who would fire you in a heartbeat - you're worth more than that! Do what you can but don't let them push you. If they do, quit. There are other jobs out there.

They will then take Amazon warehouses to another country. They’re scumbags

Nothing changed!

When "gamers" bring their games to the workplace...

Oh no he fully understands what he’s being asked, he’s just trying to think of how to answer it in an obfuscating way to try and get out of giving an actual answer

This ridiculous language is used intentionally to pretend that what is actually happening isn't happening, and that the corporation genuinely has the interests of its workers constantly in mind when it doesn't. It is very American, and is becoming more and more British.

@Loui D 😂😂😂

What is a Fulfilment Centre?

@@patriciahiggins9188 A place where people may fulfil their desires and dreams - that is to say, a common or garden warehouse!

It is dystopian. Amazon is becoming Autofac.

Yes. A bit like PMQs

The American Amazon representative has probably never been challenged much .He's definitely feeling very uncomfortable.

That is my cynicism and fear as well. It would be interesting to know if this Brian Palmer actually has executive powers to implement change, or that he just writes a report for his bosses to read.

Yeah it's so fucked up

Anyway... if they do not sort things out.. I think they are now at risk of actually smuggling. Cos we brexited. So it means that, they cannot literally sent items to EU... if they do not have the proper paperwork. So why are they so insistent on this productivity? Sorry... just how much is this video... earning them in salaries? Plus.. those surveillance cameras... in China, it is part of their financial transaction. Why didn't the panel ask them..."does your facial recognition also monetise on the employee's facial information and health information without their consent to any parts of the world, yes or no" ?.....

I bet they measured the piss.

Oh... I also want to drop this here too. HOW many items on Amazon's warehouses... are reaching US... in the UK... that is cost below par? If there is no need for Amazon, I rather that they exited. The end. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9_Ree4Dtg2g.html Trade balance... and UK is good to China, why ? We take in their second hand junk? End of line items? Still pretend that we can utilise it all ??? 21:44..... The "War Room".... Huawei executives that watches and monitors... what... exactly.... How much money is in each European country ? How much of their sales exports happen????..... That map.... and those dots. Those locations.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O4spoHp4HhY.html Coincides with the location of many of these so called..."fu zhou police station" ?????...Really? Public security bureaus ??? Exact location.. point for point... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H4bkw0_w0uc.html As a British Cantonese.. I am fuming. Fuming that... I buy a mobile phone in the UK.. costing me around a mere 20 yuans or whatever it may be in China... and yet, we sell it for around a whopping mega.... 300-1000 pounds to the average family !!!!!!!! And then the next year, it is the same again !!! 1 year contract. 2 year contracts.... ENOUGH. If I buy a plane ticket, fly over to China, to buy, it is still cheaper, than for me to buy this item this way. Is there no inequalities in this world? There is !

@May L what do you mean by monetise on the employees facial recognition. I have a vague idea…..but I don’t like what I think it is…

@@monk3yboy69 chances are it is what you think it is, I'd also be interested if there's a forced connection between an employee and their amazon account

The basic fact is that when automation actually works that what’s happens, but the reality is the hype of automation doesn’t quite meet the reality of it, and the currently reality is loss in jobs not in the scale your discussing, it’s more people’s jobs are more emeshed into technological systems and fragmented in them.

​@@pancakeslayer101 hence fewer people required in total. The Amazon PR is pure sophistry.

@@pancakeslayer101 It makes no difference if the automation replaces the whole job or just a part of it. The end result is fewer working hours for human beings, whether that means a reduction in hours or personnel. If we didn't need to work to survive it wouldn't be a problem I'd be happy for automation to do it all. But we are headed for a dystopian corporatocracy and this is one of the methods used to replace us and hence make us redundant (not just in a work sense).

@Lies Tricks its not the only option AT ALL. We used to have a little thing called freedom of movement....

@Lies Tricks If they offered decent wages and working conditions they'd find more willing staff. That isn't a factor in why they automate...

No it doesn't. It sounds like stupid american corporate buzzwords. Just call it what it is: A warehouse or distribution centre. No one uses the word fulfillment in the UK.

I haven’t used them for six years. It’s easy,you’ll soon get used to not buying a load of junk you don’t need.

Zero hour contracts?

Nobody forcing people to work for Amazon

The UK & EU should seriously consider banning Amazon and companies like it. We can have our own alternatives.

It is an American terminology, they have both warehouses.. and then "location for packing"... i.e. To fulfill an order. So basically... Amazon can have a packing location business unit, whereby, they can help another small business, to both store their goods... as well as their own packing facilities as well. Say a small mom and pops store. You made something at home. Say 100 units. Then you use Amazon to both sell it (using their websites), as well as (pick, pack, and ship)..... to reach the customers. This is why, they are called "fulfilment centres". Cos inside those locations are stocks that belongs to other companies.... But they must have reached their plateaus.. or that people are starting to resell and resell..... i.e. Company A sells to Comp B... again and again and again.. inside the UK. So.... This is an issue, because, it means it has become 1) fraudulent in some levels, and 2) mis-indirectly self inflate... faster than Bank of England's predicted inflation.... This is why... it is not good to use Amazon this way. I get the impression that they are trying to do "global"..."at a flat rate".... Meaning that, if you send them your goods... You could sell your products, all the way in South America. (But how can that be... and how does that mix with the currency fluctuations? ).... Well... It then means that, this boils down to... bankrupt countries. And failed states. Cos how can these currencies not fluctuate ????? Right ? (My guess is that, this is why those so called "crypto"... is meant to exist... but how does that work, when they work separately??? And not via a single entity to control this???? What a farce!) It spells that... there had been like a global two-tier currency exchange that has gone on for quite sometime.... Otherwise, how could this company exist like this ???....

Amazon works for Americans.. but they should NOT have opened up in other countries. No. If moms and pops made their goods, and sold on Amazon... then you have the green states that can grow food can make it work. And then other areas can produce other things, and make that work. Whereas in the UK.. we've always had our own actual supply-chains already.. and we sell by city-to-city..... It worked. And most people go to the city's main markets.. and then redistribute back to smaller towns and hamlets... It has always worked ! How can a global company enters a saturated market like the UK and basically cream the people from non-existence?????? Why haven't their own internal management consultancies not done their work ??? If all datas and figures are wrong. ... then pick up a darn geography book !!! Double check the government's own figures !!!! Those aren't wrong !

Brian Palmer tries 'Bullshit baffles Brains' But Fails Badly

@@peterreed3104 - 'Bombs' would have completed the alliteration ! 👍

It’s not just Amazon doing this. My sister works at a Sainsbury’s fulfilment centre and they have the same issues.

Cattle, make them as productive as possible for as long as possible and then discard and repeat with new stock!

Who would've thought. With 150% turn over rate.

I wish people would wake up and see what these companies are doing , it’ll be their jobs next .Boycott or you deserve what you get

What a fantastic notion. Brought a warm smile to my world-weary face. That smile will still be there when I retire for the night, basking in the imagery of the entire bunch of cabinet grifters sweating away to meet their individual productivity targets. All I would add; is that they should all wear tazer (HV) wrist or ankel tags, so that when they fall below a certain productivity threshold, they get a jolt of incentive.

I'm assuming you mean the older guy on Palmers right, not the young wannabee sociopath with the high and tight hair?

Yes, the older guy.

Yup seemed like he had a lot on his mind, maybe an algorithm can tell him when its his turn to speak

I thought that, dressed for the funeral of all the dead employees took away in an ambulance in November

Hope you've found a better employer

If you aren't capable of doing the job to the standard required, get another job. I'm not smart enough to be a rocket scientist so they won't employ me either. Terrible world isn't it.

Good man!

You couldn't pay me enough to buy from Amazon.

Not everyone has the luxury.

@@tilley6351 I'm not sh*tting on those who can't. I utilize my privilege in that to not buy from Amazon.

@@samdegoeij6576 Understood.

And they definitely don't pay enough!

Darren Jones looking at his name tag on the desk

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