Amber Liu Speaks Out About The Dark Side Of Kpop And Sulli 

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The industry that's keeping them alive is the same industry that is slowly killing them. Rest in peace beautiful soul they can't harm you now.

You can tell she's so angry at the industry for the death of Sulli. And you know, I'm still angry. The industry is a mess, and it needs changing.

Wow, so much respect for Amber speaking up about this. It must have been difficult but she is doing an amazing thing❤️

"For girls, you have to go for the general public popularity. For boys, you need a fandom. Like a big passionate fandom" She's telling us the truth. Boygroup fandom is really passionate, wether in supporting and doing war

Bless Amber for speaking out. More people should, but don't want to lose everything by doing so, especially those working in South Korea. xx

this is an industry, they are not artists, they are products, and there are thousands of them on shelves ready to be 'launched'. and when they outlive their life expectancy new product will come. The viewers are not fan they are consumers, and what do consumers do, they criticise,choose,reject,consume the product till nothing left waiting for new one to come.

what i thought kpop was: 🧚‍♀️🥰🎊🌸🎤✨ what kpop really is: 💀⛓😟⏳😈

This comment section is full of hate on the companies and korean standards but bro, we are the ones consuming what they sell us, so we need to look at ourselves and think if aren't WE the ones who hurt them constantly. They sell dolls and we buy it, so blame it on the fans too

Amber is so strong for openly speaking about the industry. She's straightforward and well-spoken, and she has a lot of experience in the industry. I can't think of a better spokesperson for k-pop. Hopefully with more discussion and better management, things will change for idols

Sulli's death still hurts. Seeing the love and pain on Amber's face as she described her as "a ball of joy, very cute, very rebellious" made me cry.

You know what I hate. When Kpop idols take their lives and people coming together to support and preach anti-bullying but then a week later, go back to hating and judging other idols. It’s a vicious cycle that needs to end. Idols aren’t perfect. They change. They make mistakes (genuine mistakes), they apologise for them, they try to make up for them and yet people just don’t forgive. They have love lives, they want something different in their lives and yet that is wrong? I hate the kpop community. I hate how toxic and obsessive they are. I hate that people get so riled up about idols dating. I hate that people can’t express themselves the way they want. I hate how stupid cancel culture is. I hate how people just hop on the hate wagon when it’s convenient. Idols are humans. They aren’t play things, they don’t serve you, they aren’t going to be exactly who they are on camera. I hope everyone realises how hurtful words can be

I like Amber. She is straight forward and right. She understand and dealt with industry but standards are ridiculous. But than again, it's us fan demanding all these. I hope there are more groups like Mamamooo. My understanding is that Mamamoo's company not demanding there diet. It's sad. I wish best for Amber.

This is the exact reason to why 3 years ago, at Jonghyun's passing, I decided to stop listening and supporting k-pop. And honestly I am forever ashamed that it took him to take his own life to make me fully realize the horrendousness that they go through. Years later, to hear that idols from my favorite groups back then are still taking their lives.. My heart breaks more and more.

Some people talk about HUMAN RIGHTS But that same people makes a fake account and gonna troll the artists like hell ,

She looks like she's in pain when she reminiscenced about late Sulli.

Even just listening to what she's saying, i got shivers. Tbh I personally wouldn't be able to survive if i were to put in that kind of industry. I totally agree with what Amber said, "that's what art is. It's an expression. You cannot expect same thing from the same person constantly". No offense, sometimes this homogenous culture/society situation in SK is just unbelievable. I got to know about this from videos of foreigners living in korea, or even the koreans themselves & few of my friends who are living in SK.

I know about the unrealistic beauty standards, but never have I thought that they were even controlled in the way they have to speak, etc. Amber is clearly a very articulate person, very eloquent and smart. It saddened me that she too, has gone through that. That people can't be who they are. God~ how frustrating.

Miss you Sulli, I will always love you since I saw you in "To The Beautiful You" Kdrama, the best Kdrama I have ever seen. I love you too Amber, I hope you get the support you deserve 💜

art is an expression, you can't expect the same thing from the same person constantly 6:14

im so glad she talked about diet being a thing because i often have to remind myself that girls in bands DONT LOOK LIKE THAT NATURALLY and have to MAINTAIN that with often harmful diets.

I have a lot of admiration for Amber, both for her talent and her determination to be who she wants to be.

k-pop industry is one of the most brutal and toxic industry . Its not only the industry but the fans are also very toxic and ruthless . I was part of BTS Army , EXO-L , Blink and many more and i will tell u these fandoms are so so toxic and nauseating . it's like u can't criticize , call out artists on their bullshit , have to like their each and every thing the artist do even if their work gets worse day by day . these fandoms literally are worse part bout k-pop .

People should stop being so obsessed with others lives and focus more on their own. Why should you care what others want to do with their lifes as long as it doesn't hurt themselves or anyone. Mind your own business. You have your own life. You would not want anybody questions yours right so why should you. How can you grow and find yourself if you don't explore what life has to offer and go outside of your comfort zone. No matter what you do there are always going to be people who hate it so you better just continue being you. This is not only within the K-pop industry but life in general.

I have a lot of admiration for Amber because she has an amazing talent and a great determination. I am happy she spoke out this about the Kpop industry and made me feel also sad about Sulli’s passing away. Amber’s expression really changed when she talked about her friend. Sulli didn’t deserve all that, nobody doesn’t and I am still trying to find a way to accept that she is gone now. “Just let her live” says it all. Thank you very much Amber for this ! And May Sulli Rest In Peace !

EVERYONE PLEASE, think twice before writing a comment. If it is something bad, do not write it and keep it to yourself. If it is something positive, write it 100 times. REMEMBER THIS!!! Would you want someone to say something bad about you??? NO. Then dont do it to others. Please be kind and only spread peace and love :)

When she said “girls have to go more for the general public while guys they have to go for the fandom” I agree with that so much because think about how when guys have to for example lift there shirt up and show there abs a lot of girls tend to thirst which is honestly disturbing because you don’t know how much they eat the foods they wanna eat or how many times they overworked themselves to get the body they have to get and for the girls it’s truly sad that there more judged from the public’s eyes more then there fandom like how there severely skinny at times or also being sexualized and hated so much respect for Amber saying this :(

k-pop entertainers are the most exploited entertainers in the world. (Like baseball players in the U.S. before 1967.) They need a union. They need to organize. They need power. Especially women in the industry.

the reason why i think most idols dont speak out is because they were brainwashed from a very young age (11-13) that this is the way..this is the exact blueprint of how to make ur dreams come true..and they train you..break your spirits for YEARS until they debut (or not) finally and why would they dare speak out now? especially in such a competitive field. Why would they speak out and risk getting everything they worked their whole youth for just for that to potentially get thrown away? its a fucked system.

Honestly I never knew sulli when FX Debuted but know when she died I knew the true meaning of scuicied and seeing her friends and family cry I knew know I have to keep going cause I myself is or was scuiciedle but know I’m still trying to get through it now but I see it now rest easy sulli I promise I will try to live on for you goo hara and Jounghyun but for now let’s just remember the good things sulli

F(x) and 2ne1 were the only 2 groups that did what they wanted to do in terms of music and style. They didn't try so hard to fit into the mold everyone wanted them to fit into, and thank god for that. I still feel sad that Sulli is gone, and I hope Krystal, Amber, Luna and Victoria and Sulli's family heal too from the loss they have experienced.

This makes me worried about Hwasa, unlike other idols, she has more power in her company and us fans back her up always, but the hate from other kpop fans is really loud :( Im twitter they are always inventing stuff she didn't do, accusing her of false things, or twisting the narrative around past mistakes, and hating the way she breaks all the standards. Hwasa is honest about the pain this causes her in her songs (she writes them), and she's so soft and vulnerable out of stage. I know she's strong in so many ways, but she shouldn't go through this! I can't understand the hate she receives. Those haters should get a life and stop harrasing this wonderful woman. Not even what happened to Sulli and other idols can make them stop, people on the internet can bring the worst of themselves.

im sad that f(x) is over but im happy that they left the industry Sulli left the industry in a way that nobody should ever expierience she djdnt deserve the hate comments she didnt do anything and NOBODY should be treated like that.

But at some point she only had negative comments... it's really hard to recover when she only had negative comments :(

I remembered how jimin starved himself because he thinks he's not skinny enough for the theme of the comeback:((

Now I get why Jackson is often so sarcastic with the staff...

even though she was a kpop idol such a long time ago, you can see so much and how prevalent everything she's talking about the industry still holds today.

Amber may your life fill with lots of love nd never ending blessings as life goes on till the end. Be strong nd sty healthy. May your happiness last forever. Sulli....I miss her ,she was my favourite girl idol as well as actor. I always admire her since the beginning. Rest in peace Sulli. You will be always in our heart . Our love for you has no ends.

Her eyes changed when talking about sully😢 i am sorry amber, and rip sully. Amber stay strong.

Whenever I don't like some comebacks or singles, I just keep it to myself and still rooting for that singer. It cost nothing to keep your mouth shut and said nothing instead of hurting others just to satisfy yourself. When it comes to Sulli, I would always shocked by her transformations. But most of it was out of respect and I was proud of her because she did what she thinks the best for herself. The group comebacks that were critisized, how she move on from the gossip of her past relationship and how she changed into a mature actress. They're all achievements. RIP Sulli.. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who thought you were cool for being you.

Love Amber and love her courage to speak up. Dongwan Kim from Shinhwa, the 1st generation idol also spoke up after Sulli's death. Rest in peace Hara & Sulli. Hope the world becomes kinder and more accepting.

Amber's so brave. I mean she's just such a brave girl. It's so hard and difficult that she has openly talked about all that things. She still too much hurt in a heart. I really do respected her.

Idols are humans like us. Let's treat one another more kindly

it's the cost of being idol but I think I prefer them being healthy and happy, not stick figure and ill, no no no

"Just let her live" Hit so hard

I respect and love Amber for speaking out against the industry and exposing them. You can tell she's so humble and chill. I really wish nothing but the best for Amber and I hope she's thriving still ❤️❤️

Sulli has the brightest smile, its so pretty

the hate sulli received always infuriated me. she never did anything wrong!!!! i miss her so much

Im so glad she was able to leave and pick up her pieces and move back home and continue stronger than ever. She is amazing and She stated recently she still healing and finding her way and she will we are here tu support her all the way as her fans and to let her know she makes us very proud and thank you for your music and your art!!! STAY CALM!! The destination is far❤️🙏🌹

They consented to do their dream job but they didn't know what they had to go through. I mean it's undeniable that Kpop fans expect these kinda stuffs from their idol. They expect their idol to be this super perfect God and goddess, which is not okay. They're humans too. If fans don't complain about their weights, their looks, their skin tone, their facial proportions, etc., probably they can do their job without these billsh*t pressure. Popstars don't feel that much pressure about their looks cause they're doing music and not modeling but Kpop stars are expected to be all in one. Why? Because of the expectations of the Kpop fans. They're basically the puppets of their company who are manipulating them what to do and what not. Kpop is just toxic. Kpop is basically just feeding the Kpop stars and also slowly eating them. That's really creepy.

What is tragic is that I just seen a post by a KPOP idol drunk and stating that he’s NOT OKAY. I firmly believe that if the Music Company is making money 💰. Will they really intervene? This situation has to be “Talked about and exposed”. The family members need to ask if these young people are being treated with respect. The bullying that just was exposed by another female KPOP group..the management and HR Director should be more aware of the signs. SAD 😢. Sorry for this young lady’s friends and family.

I really wish it never happened 🥺, R I.P Sulli, Thank you for speaking up Amber

Those who wrote about these article about Sulli,,i hope u can sleep peace at night,knowing ur article cost somebody life.u hv blood in your hands.

I really appreciate it that Amber spoke out about it. I know that it's been over a year since Sulli's death and I'm over here still trying to process that she actually died. I can't believe that she's gone. Rest in peace to our angel Sulli. I totally miss her so much. 💔💔💔😭😭😭

Wow that is so sad and heart breaking! Really a tough industry and we all should love everyone regardless of looks. Sorry for the loss of her friend and beautiful girl and entertainer. Sending ❤ love from USA to all my kpop idols!!! LOVE YOU ALL AND BE YOURSELVES, WE WILL STILL LOVE YOU!!! 😇😇❤❤💯

You are so on point and making words accurate Amber Thankyou

As weird as it sounds, I feel like a boycott against the whole industry until they treat every group of both male and female artists equally and ETHICALLY!!! Yes, ethically. As sad as it sounds, it’s the truth. Both sides face a lot that we don’t know about but I feel like females get it the hardest because of stricter standards to make them look “perfect” in a way. Also, agencies need to be stricter on protecting their idols. There is so much hate and toxicity going on for countless years towards idols and they still face it towards disgusting fans everyday and it shocks me how ruthless these people are. It’s like Jonghyun, Sulli, and Goo Hara was not enough for these disgusting imbeciles to take a step back and realize how damaging their actions are towards these HUMANS.

I haven’t seen amber before this and I have just got to say what an incredible woman for speaking up

Bless her for speaking out, and yhis should be trending for a lot of people to listen to this🙏🙏💞💞💞

2:26 guys she has a point now that I think about it. K pop is good you know but not until you start going more deep and at some point it becomes creepy and frustrating. I have been an ARMY for almost 1 year now and honestly sometimes I just feel like leaving the fandom obviously I will still listen to BTS' music and enjoy wholeheartedly but not go any futher. You know when stanning an artist you just start envolving in the fandom at some point. I know the fandom has unity but there are *way too many* toxic ARMYs in the fandom as well. But still I haven't figured it out yet. PS: I am *not hating on any artist* or dissing any fandom it's *just my opinion* but still if you stan any k pop group you will relate to many things that I just talked about, not just BTS but the whole k pop industry has a dark side to it (if you have been stanning k pop for some time now you will have an idea about what I am taking)

You can tell Amber is being careful with her wording of thoughts and experiencies, maybe in order to not offend anybody or because if she calls out the haters and "bad" people in the industry , it could hurt her public image. I hope for a time when kpop can be more honest and inclusive. Amber broke several stereotypes with her looks and attitude, we need to keep supporting her and others artists because we dont fully know what they might be going through. Fans or not, idols need safety nets.

7 minutes of literal pure satisfaction. Any controversies and doubts over the treatment of humans and right or wrong is practically always hardly answered. People dodge questions and in majority they don't speak up coz they don't wanna get in trouble with the higher ups. This is why this is very satisfying somehow

The scariest that could ever happen to a kpop idol 😔 cant even imagine how her members mustve felt and what theyre still feeling now.... she will always be missed! SULLI RIP

I salute you Amber for speaking out! not every artist can do what you did... i really hope that you are fine now and enjoying your life. I hope that there will be a change in kpop industry, specially with regards to female idols. Their physical and mental health are more important than anything else.

i miss sulli she was always my favorite! Its insane what the human body can withstand

Amber is a jewel, a jewel that knows exactly what the dark side of Kpop can do to a person- People should listen, kpop stans should listen- People should change for the better, justice need to be made present. "Too many angels are dying" (Dreamcatcher) Not just physically but metaphorically. We should be the ones to save them, together we are strong. Together our voice can reach the sky. We should take a stand.

The fact is Kpop industry responded to the consumers and fans needs. Most of products and markets also do the same as well. Most of fans support idols who looks like ideal and perfect person (most of them did plastic surgery and always/often have the same (boring) pose / response and personality like they are manufactured person who represent to ideal people) That's why I never follow any trends and never support those kind of things. I don't anti plastic surgery and skinny BUT I don't support either. I support real artists and respect them as human being. Most of people don't realize what they actually support. They said because those famous people are talent 😏 There are tons of talent people in kpop Industry and this world who don't have beautiful look to meet this social expectations and they don't even get recognized their talent. Some famous idols right now, they don't even make their own songs or do things by themselves, like Amber said. They were told to do and people love them and support them. They did plastic surgery >> people like them and support them They have skinny shape >> people like them and support them They have bright skin >> people like them and support them What and how entertainment industry will do when people support idols like those? And idols who suffered from this society are people who tried to live their own life, make their own things and being themselves. This is fu**ing ridiculous and hilarious.

7:07 I feel like this culture stems from the fans themselves. Afterall, what industry caters to is fan's demands. And I say fans are very much as responsible for this strict standards as well as these industries

God Bless You Amber🙏 You should be an Ambassador for female Kpop artists. Unfortunately, the fans can be selfish and cruel. I'm grateful my daughter has a sense of Self and who she is. You remind me of her🥰 Stay Strong, Be You and Don't Let Anyone Tell You Otherwise😤 You are doing it for all of those who cannot dream for themselves....Thank You. Stay Blessed and Safe Always 🙏 ❤🙏

Such a strong woman to speak out about this. I give my respect to you Amber🥰

THANK YOU AMBER

This is the exact thing that perfect blue, a 1999 psychological thriller anime predicted about the idol industry. Especially the ‘image change’ topic is literally what the protagonist wants through

Amber really has a way on expressing her thoughts and feelings into words which could pierce your heart deep inside and will leave you wondering and thinking about what she had just said that just makes a lot of sense and passion..

It is always those that are always smiling that keep their pain inside. They don’t want people to worry about them so they just smile

this will continue as long as fans see this industry as appearance over talent. fans has a big factor in this kind of industry.

Sulli is so cute ......looks happy outside😣

crazy - I think will love Amber for her personality :> and she is beautiful - I know this is just my feeling, but I feel very comfortable when I hear you and you are really fun!

I will always love fx and am so so sorry to hear about Sulli i have been trying to catch up on what happened to all of the member's of fx and am sorry you and other kpop group's have gone and are going trough such hard time's this need's to change and fast. And to you amber ty for all the video's you made about the band of all the fun fx had it also great that you can now talk openly about what it really like for kpop group's.

Amber is such an inspiration to me. She's very unique and very true to herself.

All of this aside, I'm so glad to see Amber just doing her thing now and being her true self. I've never considered myself a big kpop fan as I just like some songs every now and then and don't follow certain artists everywhere. There's something about kpop that doesn't make me want to call myself a fan. The industry is obviously a big problem, I understand they want the artists to look good and that there are certain expectations and that's okay... to some extent. The way it is right now is just not good, it's not healthy and certainly not something to look up to for young girls who want to become artists one day. Besides that the whole kpop fandom is also so extreme, the idea of being a "stan". It's great to support your favorite group, there's nothing wrong with following them and being hyped for new songs or recommending them to friends. But that's not my experience with it, the fandom is extreme as well, and sometimes downright toxic...

When I see how big the kpop fandoms are, and how passionate they are. I don’t understand why we don’t get together and change this horrible industry. We could and i feel like we all want the best for idols? Idk its just a dream I guess

Thanks for sharing this with us ❤️

The sad thing is that this is the music and entertainment industry in general. It creates this unattainable image for not only the public but for the celebrities themselves. It's unfortunate that people can't be appreciated for their talent alone, and that fans think they own these people. No fan has the right to tear down another artist or group to build up who they support. Just like their art and let them live their lives freely. I do applaud Amber for speaking out because it had to be really difficult, and what she did was very brave.

I got into kpop around 2019 and I'll try my best to protect female idols from those anti's rest in peace sulli I'm sorry I'm late༎ຶ‿༎ຶ

I remember Amber standing up for Sulli in a tv show. Amber's awesome. I respect her so much for that.

Rip sulli altho i miss her alot but I bet she’s in a better place now

Thank you for such a nice video. I appreciate how thoughtful and respectful you were.

Sulli was so naive when I started following them. And even she was not my favorite member but I just can’t hate her, because she was just too innocent , like a piece of paper white paper, Chinese way of describing a pure soul. I couldn’t understand why so many people commenting on her, when she drunk when she not wearing bra, I mean, it was her personal life. But the worst thing has happened, and may she Rest In Peace

I always blame the unsatisfied fans who pretend to be perfect and yet they are just trash themselves. May her soul rest in peace.

Oh love. I just want to give Amber the biggest hug!! :c

Respect each and every idol of Kpop 🙏🙏🙏🙏

KUDOS to Amber for breaking the silence and for speaking up. It is indeed hurting when pain is inflicted on someone who is making a living, working hard for her art and doing her job. I hope your act is followed by more women and men of quality who are not afraid of equality. because as women we are always expected to seek validation and affirmation from the outside we have not learned to affirm ourselves. we have reject many of the false narratives and expectations placed by culture. we have to embrace the value of our own person as woman. keep your courage. your speaking out has helped many women even those outside the entertainment business. you are not alone.

"for girls, you have to go for the general public popularity; for boys you need a fandom. Like a big passionate fandom" that statement is so true, i have noticed the girls tend to have more pressure on them. I hope things changes soon for the benefit of all involved, both girls and guys.

Very thought provoking……. first time to know about Korean entertainment industry……! Thank you for speaking up for those sufferings.

So soooo proud of amber for speaking up! I just hope she won’t get any trouble for this and I hope we all can protect her at all cost

This is consistent with the entertainment industry as a whole. Everyone knows the dark side of Seoul and Hollywood now. It is not about any one nationality... it's about profiteering and greed, and the ruthless competition between capitalist markets. K-pop fans please advocate for the rights of entertainers and artists and working people, not just in Korea but in your own country. But first of all keep looking after yourself and the people around you. Most people these days are just scared and don't know what to do. And that's okay, we just have to keep living and keep fighting.

Vice TV should do a documentary the dark side of kpop

LIFE IS NOT FAIR!!! SO MUCH TALENT AND YOU HAVE A GIFT THAT IS LEVERAGED AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL ARTIST IN KPOP LIMELIGHT. ITS TERRIBLE TO BE CHANGED TO PLEASE THE MASSES.

I will remember you forever in my heart Sulli 💔💔💔

It saddens me to hear stories like this. You dream of being a pop star and it being a good life to find out you get used and tired. To make things worse too many end up with little to show for it or end up even owing debt financially and health wise.