AMD at Computex 2024: AMD AI and High-Performance Computing with Dr. Lisa Su 

jensen prolly said it more times

Good thing I didn't do the drinking game

They understood the assignment, but could have said it more.

Did you use AI to count how many times AI was said?

@@pikac5566 💀

What is the point of that

Using what works?

@@ItsDeeno69booooo u stink!

NVIDIA!⚡

amd has nothing for AI.

pipipi

Because it can't be stopped anymore. If the USA stops developing Russia and China will continue to surpass the USA. Even though AI regulations are meaningless and self-harm for countries, enemies won't regulate anything. They'll try to develop it as fast as they can.

And there seems to be little discussion around how the workforce will be transformed, when all of these jobs are lost to AI and complete automation. When you suggest that there has to be a UBI and access to housing for all, people scream socialism, but wtf do you want people to do when there aren't any jobs? it'll create a massive underclass and homelessness problem - tech companies taking away these jobs need to be involved in the solution, even if that is paying taxes (even a form of income tax) on where their AI has taken away work (which in case anyone wants to have a whinge, isn't just service level jobs, but also highly skilled jobs currently manned by actual people) to help deal with the issue.

true the whole human history we ben working to survive we been forced enslaved to work we been learn to work now we need to unlearn this instinct and be more productive in different field maybe only for our own pleasure, or we need to find out exactly what is this new type of work and for what reason, seams the reason is changing

@@c4rnagEc4 It seems to me, sooner or later instead of serving the world and human kind, companies ended up serving only themselves by doing away with human workforce thru Artificial Intelligence.

Me too

Me too

NVIDIA!⚡

Makes you think.

Hustlers

I thought she's his niece

Ow.. hhuhh.. some family is doing really well..

Not first cousins directly, first cousins once-removed.

Sony will release their own AI upscaler with PS5 Pro this fall and after that it's virtually guaranteed Microsoft will follow suit with an Xbox brand AI Upscaler in 2026, which would inherently also work on Windows by virtue of Xbox being a windows machine under the hood. "Hopefully" FSR will become a thing of the past by 2026.

why is that bad? genuine question

Yes, and maybe, it will beat any AI solution. There are so many, insanely smart, not feasibly creatable through AI (because deeply embedded in the rendering pipeline and potentially stateful), algorithms for frame interpolation and sharpening.

​@@unendingessence4001upcharging for features the average buyer won't use

@@unendingessence4001 Despite another stupid answer lighting is moving to ray tracing. While you don't need an advanced upscaler for raster and I don't know the name for the lighting and shadow effects that have been used in the past, ray tracing drops frame rates down and it probably will for another 4 - 5 years until hardware is a lot better at it and game devs are more experienced programming it. In other words in the near future more and more games that come out will ONLY use ray tracing for lighting and if you have a GPU that doesn't have RT cores you won't be able to play the game. AI upscaling does a really good job in this situation to boost frame rates back up while maintaining high image quality. FSR is decent, but you watch any comparison and the reviewers tend to stick their noses up at it a bit. And once again despite another stupid answer it's almost better in most cases to not use FSR and simply turn down SOME quality settings to where you're still happy enough with the image quality but also have good enough frame rates. On the other hand DLSS can now give image quality that's as good and in some cases people say it looks better than native imaging so..........................

I predict X3D CPUs to be released around Q1 of 2025.

@@auritro3903 Yeah, that's what I've been anticipating as well. I figured there would be a 5-8 month lag before release. Unless Intel releases something unexpected. Even then it may not change anything. I'm happy waiting until then.

9800X3D is the elephant in the room.

@@zsideswapper6718 Not if both CCDs come with 3D V-Cache, though. At least that's what I hope will happen; otherwise, may as well buy 7800x3d.

@@auritro3903 Release is in Q4 2024 mid December if not then it will be Feb 2025 but never in January. AMD X3D's always release 6-7 months after their regular Ryzen the non X chips does come even later that will be for sure end of Q1 2025 or begin of Q2 2025

what ever amd announced is just words that will never happen.

@@fred-ts9pb That's an interesting statement considering they've been executing better than Intel for the past 5 years and their performance uplift projections have actually all been a little conservative (though sure the RX 7000 series fell short of expectations).

@@fred-ts9pb it already happened, it is on it's way.

yea agreed. I'm missing the new GPU line-up for sure! I don't care about these AI CPUs.

AI marked your comment with "Translate to English" lol

The MBs that come out for Zen 6 will be a LOT better so that whole upgrade thing doesn't make sense unless you want to get stuck with an inferior MB. I make a lot of decisions based on the MBs, not the CPU so it matters.

​@johndoh5182 I was planning on waiting for R9000 X3D chips, are you saying that's not a good update?

@@prototypep4 Until I see different data I don't know how to answer that question. This is just me personally. YOU might not care. The issue for me is the CPU-chipset link which has been running at 8GB/s since 2019 when Zen 2/X570 came out. Most people don't even pay attention to this but I use a LOT of what's on the MB and I buy upper end MBs, as in my current Zen 3 systems are based on X570, not B550 and the two systems both have MBs with 3 NVMe ports, and I run dual OS on these systems. If all YOU do is simple stuff where you only need one NVMe port this probably doesn't matter because you can hook the 1st NVMe disk straight to the CPU. This is an issue that is about BOTH parts, the CPU AND the motherboard. What I know is that if these new CPUs don't boost that link to 16GB/s which is where Intel has now been for their last 2 generations it doesn't interest me. I can 2K game plenty fast with X570/5800X3D/32GB 3200 14-14-14-34 DRAM/6950 XT. This system can already run 3 NVMe drives at PCIe gen4 speed, which is 8GB/s. I want my next system to be able to move data faster than that. So without seeing the complete specs for the CPUs for which even on Wiki this information isn't complete, and without seeing what new MBs can do I can't answer that because I don't know if AMD has upgraded that link from 8GB/s to 16GB/s. If they have and they don't need to do something stupid like daisy chain 2 chipsets like what they have to do with X670(E) boards then I'd say it's a perfectly fine upgrade, but Zen 6 is going to use less power, probably run clocks about the speed Zen 4 did and add another 15% of performance and the MBs that come out with Zen 6 should be the best boards for AM5. I usually have a system for 5 - 6 years so I'd personally wait until I understand the MBs a bit more.

@@johndoh5182 Consider that I'm upgrading from a 9 year old MSI gaming laptop bro :'D I don't wanna wait till 2027 for a new chipset to build off. X870 will be fine.

@@prototypep4 Yeah it's kind of why I kept saying YOU. I don't know what's right for another person, only me. I could care less what you're upgrading from. That's your business not mine, unless I'm charging as an advisor and then I can get all the different use cases you have and give you a recommendation.

Same here, built k6 systems, have had quite a few athlons, athlon x2, phenom II and even bulldozer was ahead of it’s time (owned an 8320), then got into Ryzen third gen, upgraded to 5600x, and now 7800x 3d. Have owned many ATI Cards, starting with the 9800 pro, x850, x1800, 3870, 4850, 5870, rx480, 6700x, and now 7900xtx

@@marcosgazamanes6165 Glad to find others who feel the same.

LMAO AMD fanboy detected so hard

@@AdiiS haha no life detected, so hard.

And i was a victim of that when i bought intel pentium CPUs back then. But still, they make better CPUs so i got sandy bridge until AMD came up with ZEN, have been on AMD since.

RDNA4 is, and I say this as a happy 7900XTX owner, expected to be "less competitive" than RDNA2 and RDNA3. It's pretty much going to be like RDNA1 where the highest SKU was the 5700XT competing against the 2070/2070 Super. The final naming is not known yet, but it's likely going to be either 8800XT or 8700XT depending on how much they can squeeze out of it.

And this right here is why i choose AMD. Longevity especially in a very inflated economy means a lot to many who cant always buy the last platform but may need it for say newer features or just a stronger cpu.

@@andersjjensen I bought a second 7900XTX this year. High end Radeon owners probably won't upgrade until RDNA5 in 2026.

I guess everyone is aiming for Q4 with their gaming GPUs. Maybe Q1 '25 if we're unlucky (CES). I'm expecting Intel to be first with Battlrmage.

Past 2027 doesn't necessarily mean new generations until 2027. It might be like AM4 where they launch the 5800XT in 2024 4 years after the rest of the 5000 series. In 2027 we might just be getting a 7800XT or the like. Whatever left overs they have laying around.

Where are the new GPUs?

Just throw a little more money at the ceo. That should do it. No growth in over 2 years.

@@fred-ts9pb aha...

Should have stayed.

It is quite popular to move to Linux now due to all the shenanigans going on with Windows 11. What I've found odd is how easy it has been for me to do the switch. Last decade I couldn't get into Linux, but now it's been a rather smooth ride.

LMAO AMD is nothing compared to Nvidia in the AI space but nice try though

​@@AdiiS I mean it surely is when you talk about efficiency and combination with CPU. Today if x86 arch has any chance against the rising ARM, it is only cause of AMD. There is a reason why AMD powers so many laptops and windows handheld are basically all AMD. Be it SteamDeck, MSI Claw, ROG Ally, etc in Desktop again, AMD leads above Intel for CPU, but yes in terms of GPU it is no where close to NVidia. But again, the AI part here is that, AMD just like ARM based CPUs is also putting NPU cores in their CPU, which Nvidia do not have (not even in their GPUs), which is what will help AI to become more mainstream by getting it into laptops and phones. That is exactly why Nvidia wanted to buyout ARM, which failed.

@@AdiiS which Nvidia fanboy wallpaper do you have?

@@Th3Toppi3 he didn't get the part that even Intel and others teamed up in the ai-network/infrastructure/link part to fight against Nvidia''s bad habits

@@MarcSpctr All true, but isn't their RTX inside laptops as well. I'm using a Lenovo which has RTX and I use SD. Nvidia also has a stack in ARM, I think they 'kind of' see the importance, but of course, all these corps are riding the AI hype train. Intel is the real wiener here considering they could have had a complete monopoly and lost it.

Around the 9 minute mark

8:18

bruh windows doesnt support it

ROCm implies a shout-out to ROC(Repulic of China) Taiwan ? Lisa Su is Deep!

@@standingstill8569 it does

Reall shareholder don't love lisa su, only traders.

Turin is a city in Italy. That is the up-scaled AI image done by Turin.

That is all amd has is words.

I don't know my name anymore

Lose many dollars per mention you should state.

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Compress and recompress. Proper terms please.

@@ronz101 Re-compression requires context, i am talking generally, semantics.

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I guess lisa su was pumping Nvidia as amd has nothing that can compete.

I guess you don't hold the stock.

@@fred-ts9pb no. I love amd products.

​ @fred-ts9pb I hold the stocks & love the products. :D

@@fred-ts9pbwhats wrong with the stock?

Probably saving it for the X3D version and for marketing purposes. There's no need to have that many 8 core CPUs to compete with each other.

DNAI

AIMD

Nope..

No

@@Jaker788 hmm ,k

@@Jaker788 so basically = Designed to seamlessly integrate with AMD Ryzen 9000 Series desktop processors, the new AMD X870E and X870 chipsets boast support for the latest technologies such as PCie 5.0, DDR5, USB4, and WIFI7. Socket AM5 platforms are built to last, with support through 2027 and beyond , ok

@@Jaker788 so basically = Designed to seamlessly integrate with AMD Ryzen , 9000 Series desktop processors, the new AMD X870E and X870 chipsets boast support for the latest technologies such as PCIe , 5.0, DDR5, USB4, and WIFI7. Socket AM5 platforms are built to last, with support through 2027 and beyond

@@jamesfox2857 Epyc is a server platform on a server socket, even if they have a lower end Epyc it has 8 channel memory and all the PCI-E lanes and I/O and it's on the server socket. The desktop platform, AM5 is limited and always will be to dual channel DDR5 and a set amount of PCI-E lanes and other I/O. Whatever you're talking about with the new chipset, that's not Epyc. That's just a new chipset for AM5 that will support new USB and PCI-E. If you stay on an older chipset only some PCI-E lanes may be upgraded by the new CPU, if the distance isn't too far and it doesn't go through the chipset. Something like the closest M.2 slot and possibly the first X16 slot. For USB you get nothing new because the motherboard doesn't have USB4 ports.

Not today.

Never.

@@MelroyvandenBerg Sounds about right. ^__^;

True, i watched the entire live just hopping to see some Desktop solution. But now we will depend on the company “MemryX” to release their dedicated NPU called “MX3 M.2 Module”

Uhhhh... Good question.

Probably because there isn't a market for it yet. Does your desktop need a ai accelerator right now? Probably not

@@alexis1156 Windows has copilot+ PC certification right now. Seems it is laptop only? Why?

@@tehehe5929 if you are asking us, I would say this is only going to hit the market if comes embedded on the CPU chipset, since most costumers won’t pay/care/know about the need/use of NPU, so it needs to get costumers in a “you hove no option to buy new computers that don’t have NPU embedded”, and then, when customers use and see the power/usefulness of offline AI, it will begin to pay off which will make sense to sell it for dedicated public, how it happened with the beginning of the dedicated GPU. But if you are asking to AMD, and they care to answer you, I would love to hear the response