AMD Radeon VII Tear-Down & Graphite Thermal Pad

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We take apart AMD's new Radeon VII video card, featuring Vega architecture, and look at the PCB, cooling solution, and assembly process.
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The AMD Radeon VII video card somewhat interestingly uses a Hitachi HM03 graphite thermal pad, as opposed to normal paste, which is something we can look at in future testing. The PCB will receive separate analysis, but requires some voltage measurements in order to determine the exact VRM locations. As for benchmarks for AMD Radeon VII (and the review), those will have to wait. The product launches on the 7th, which is likely around when follow-up content will post, including tests vs. the RTX 2080 / GTX 1080 Ti.
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@JokoJMC 5 лет назад

other channel: Lets start unboxing GN: Lets start tear-down

@CooKiiePanda 5 лет назад

Joko JMC Linus: opps i dropped it

@puilp0502 5 лет назад

@@CooKiiePanda LinusDropTips

@yourikhan4425 5 лет назад

This video marks the point where I finally decided that Gamers Nexus is worth being subscribed to. (I don't easily subscribe to a channel)

@philipcooper8297 5 лет назад

Steve unboxes the GPU.

@MrBrightSyde1997 5 лет назад

@@After_Pasta Yeah, JayzTwoCents commented that AMD said he couldn't do a tear-down of the card yet, even though they said he could tear it down at an earlier date. AMD must've changed their minds and didn't want anyone to do tear-downs just yet.

@RidiculuzPrime 5 лет назад

4:28 "it's not removed, it's modified... the sticker is still there" lol Tech Jesus does make a good point

@wobblysauce 5 лет назад

@Chuckiele 5 лет назад

Thats actually why they are just "not enforcable" rather than completely illegal. If you leave them on and break through them, then you didnt actually remove them and if you remove them, then theres nothing on the card saying that you voided the warranty anymore. They are entirely meaningless and only there to scare of noobs from fucking things up.

@damiantoczek8576 5 лет назад

@DragonProtector 5 лет назад

Ya I even had sapphire aprove me to take my card apart before sending it in for rma lol.

@RagnarokLoW 5 лет назад

Warranty Void stickers are also not enforceable in Canada.

@mycosys 5 лет назад

Can technically cop fines for them in Australia

@HamBown 5 лет назад

I had a rep from XFX tell me, on the phone, that they are not enforceable in North America. He confirmed that they are to scare-off noobs; and, so they can tell if it has been opened while troubleshooting RMAs.

@jdde013 5 лет назад

Not sure about Canada, but they can NOT deny a claim simple based on the fact the sticker was removed. They MUST provide proof that the user modifications caused the damage to the device. I believe this only applies if they are offering the warranty repair for free.

@prorataxns8425 5 лет назад

Nice. I did not know that. Thank you. I am Canadian.

@hofnaerrchen 5 лет назад

If you had removed them without leaving any marks they would have to prove that they were there on that specific card which would also be quite pointless without having taken some pictures after being manufactured (showing part numbers too) - apart from the only reason is to scare customers off.

@pandabuttonftw745 5 лет назад

I love the cooler, it's so clean and professional looking.

@dogechallenger4994 5 лет назад

Some hate it but I agree

@niodix 5 лет назад

Not professional but industrial

@youtubasoarus 5 лет назад

My take as well. It looks really simple, but it's a lot of technical work to get it to look so clean. Otherwise it would be a mish-mash of pipes and fins. Looks really good.

@niodix 5 лет назад

@@youtubasoarus i want to know temps of this since there will be no non reference models. I had 2 rtx 2080. Both are dead. Waiting radeon vii release

@niodix 5 лет назад

@@evalangley3985 Ah I forgot to mention. I got full refund already. My first Gigabyte rtx 2080 gaming OC died after week of usage (blue screen, artifacts, black screen). My second was from MSI - rtx 2080 gaming x trio. It was DOA. Got refund the same day. RTX 2080/2080ti/some 2070 - lots of complains on Nvidia forum. Now I'm using my old radeon 7970 and waiting for VII

@adrianparker3116 5 лет назад

Thank you Gamers Nexus for providing a technical breakdown of the Radeon VII. Unboxing videos are fun but these just take it to the next LEVEL.

@joeoliveira1843 5 лет назад

I can’t sleep until I see a teardown of the box and packaging itself. What is it made from? Does it use 100% recyclable materials? Can it be used to store such foodstuffs as Nachos & Cheese for them late night MMO sessions? etc. etc. etc...

@M4lkavian 5 лет назад

TinyTomLogan: I don't think we can tear this down yet because it's under NDA GamersNexus: Hold my beer

@chriswho12345 5 лет назад

Mograine Lefay legal team paying for itself

@andyjayso4551 5 лет назад

what a beautiful card, the gpu die looks amazing !

@T1C 5 лет назад

Those stickers are also illegal in Canada by the way.

@Shieftain 5 лет назад

Ironic, as ATi was a Canadian company before they merged with AMD.

@TheBlackIdentety 5 лет назад

Should be illegal world wide.

@BossManSays 5 лет назад

Why?

@Melwasul94 5 лет назад

As in Europe IIRC

@Mapavia89 5 лет назад

So what can you say to the manufacturer to honor a fix if needed? Because my XFX card has lifetime warranty. Should I still take it apart to do maintenance?

@ZeppelinEXAhmed 5 лет назад

Finally true unboxing.

@mohdfaizal6773 5 лет назад

Why the instant autopsy on the item?

@bas2085 5 лет назад

@@mohdfaizal6773 why not

@anasevi9456 5 лет назад

the downgrade on the VRM over the utterly insanely overbuilt Vega reference cards bodes either very well or very bad. Either AMD was sandbagging like mad when they stated a 300w TDP; or they don't wan't a repeat of the legendary value king Vega 56 OC specials where this card is able to eclipse later full fat Vega 7nm releases.

@ashleyjohansson230 5 лет назад

@@mohdfaizal6773 To see how terribly made the card is.

@BenWillock 5 лет назад

Steve said that if he ever did an unboxing embargo video to shoot him. I'm coming for you, Steve.

@WeirdSeagul 5 лет назад

Interesting Hitachi makes thermal pads as well as massagers

@mycosys 5 лет назад

They are especially famous for their manufacturing robots and manufacturing plant equipment, they also make heavy machinery, and trains, and aircraft, defence electronics, consumer electronics, semiconductors, they are HUGE

@drake6836 5 лет назад

@@fortunefed8719 yep

@mycosys 5 лет назад

@@vyor8837 sorry, but i didnt mention HGST for a reason - they arent owned by Hitachi, they were sold to WD years ago, and the brand has been phased out.

@stale2665 5 лет назад

Hitachi is just a massive corporation. Sort of like Samsung, who make everything from phones to washing machines to automatic sentry guns.

@mycosys 5 лет назад

@@fortunefed8719 they werent as bad as the IBM drives before Hitachi bought them. The DeskStar 75GXP was known as the DeathStar for a reason XD. Thankfully i bought Quantum back then lol, was rather sad when they sold their drive biz to crappy Maxtor (2nd time Maxtor wrecked my fave drives)

@yanniskouretas8688 5 лет назад

... And that's how it's done boys and girls ! Unboxing down to the chip itself !

@vitaobatera 5 лет назад

I want to see Gamers Nexus go further some day and do reballing of GPUs and BIOS swaps... that would be sick!! On GDDR cards you could even double the VRAM swaping 1GB modules to 2GB modules after a BIOS swap... scientific study only, but pretty cool.

@giorgos1520 5 лет назад

και εδω Ελληνες παντου ειμαστε !!!

@torotomika1911 5 лет назад

I got so excited seeing this in my subfeed. I just love technology.

@ayzixx4306 5 лет назад

i feel ya brah

@user-gw1qj6yc9d 5 лет назад

We all do 😁

@wiggypop 5 лет назад

Me too. Woke up "fuck it's - 36*Celcius. Ouh but Steve is dropping a hott Vid".

@GurtTarctor 5 лет назад

Wow, interesting use of an alternate TIM there, wasn't expecting that! Looking forward to the testing comparing that to paste.

@leogrievous 5 лет назад

3:36 *Ayayay, AMD we're gonna have to talk*

@lrmcatspaw1 5 лет назад

Ayaya intensifies.....

@RoosSkywalker 5 лет назад

AyaMD

@keithberwanger6595 5 лет назад

I've been theorizing an how to use graphite as a thermal solution in electronics for years. It's so cool to see it done with resin to make a directional pad.

@ianh43 5 лет назад

Cool story bruh

@lunaro23 5 лет назад

Ian H don’t you feel cool

@keithberwanger6595 5 лет назад

@@ianh43 it is cool because graphite has exceptional thermal properties (because carbon, of course) however it is limited in what "direction" heat flows through graphite/carbon or any material in general. Graphite is also a semiconductor in most forms hence why it is usually just used as a dry lubricant/negative casting in industrial environments. It's so groovy how they utilized carbon in a high covalent bond state but avoided enclosing it within another space. I imagined it would find its way into a composite type heat pipe as opposed to "direct" contact.

@Quetzalcoatl0 5 лет назад

7:10 "You can see indentations of the HBM so its making contact" 9:45 "Its epoxy coated that makes everything the same height (flat), if we measure it you will no difference "

@royallager1851 5 лет назад

Looks nice

@l__l2328 5 лет назад

1:38 My OCD is firing hard on those bent fins

@Pyrotech777 4 года назад

ME TOO! It was the first thing I noticed and I was triggered immediately lol

@RedLampLightsGreen 5 лет назад

that xfx series of amd cards looked sooooooooo sexy. sadly they dont do them like this anymore.. :(

@-eMpTy- 5 лет назад

Yea true, they even made a triple axial cooler for the HD 7990: cdn.videocardz.com/1/2013/09/XFX-Radeon-HD-7990-Triple-Dissipation.jpg I also really liked the older Gainward Phantom designs: image1280.macovi.de/images/product_images/1280/856412_1__49329-1.jpg

@previousslayer 5 лет назад

But they tended to overheat (IIRC of course)

@imneverbackingdown 5 лет назад

I miss my R7 270x card from them...

@lilietto1 5 лет назад

@@imneverbackingdown R9 ! :P

@loutenant9480 5 лет назад

But xfx had one of the worst hd 7970 cards for example, from this ghost series.

@architech007 5 лет назад

Worlds first 7nm videocard, holy smokes its awesome! Thank you Space Jesus!

@dogechallenger4994 5 лет назад

No. Gaming card.

@james2042 5 лет назад

Tech* jesus

@KainArkanos 5 лет назад

7nm, but not really 7nm. The standards are so weird. Like AMD's 7nm is closer to what Intel's 10nm is supposed to be.

@alexanderdaum8053 5 лет назад

@@KainArkanos Yeah the semiconductor node names are just marketing, as the process can't be defined by one measurement anymore. According to wikichips, intels 10nm has the same CPP (contacted gate pitch) as TSMC 7nm, but TSMC 7nm has smaller SRAM cells (which are a pretty good measure of density). So TSMC 7nm competes with Intel 10nm on a pure data standpoint, but in the real world it looks like Intels yield on 10nm is still not very good, and they have only released a low power mobile CPU without IGP.

@eoinkenny3188 5 лет назад

@@alexanderdaum8053 Either tech is very impressive and I fear we better get used to them for about the next 5 years

@TheBlackIdentety 5 лет назад

Plz compare temps of this graphite TIM with Kryonaut and Conductonaut!

@vitaobatera 5 лет назад

And with Scribblenaut, please

@MrDanypy 5 лет назад

Yes! Yes! Tessa!

@MrDanypy 5 лет назад

Yes!

@Dracossaint 5 лет назад

I agree, beyond I don’t like the fan design

@rubenschaer960 5 лет назад

Vapor chamber + heat pipes, and a heatsink that fills out almost all the entire space of the chosen form factor. In terms of maximum thermal dissipation, this is basically as good as it gets without making the footprint of the card lager to fit in more fins, or moving on to a waterblock. Really impressive.

@brodybunter4453 5 лет назад

That is a massive amount of copper!

@chungisyoung4good 5 лет назад

Big Penny will be pleased.

@viktorfinnholm5389 5 лет назад

It's actually really thin (like 0.5 mm), so it's probably not more than 100 grams or so of copper.

@JohnLevesque_Shogi 5 лет назад

I love it when you "modify" the warranty sticker instead of remove it. Thumbs up! @4:35

@mulavi1 5 лет назад

Bitwit:Lets unbox this GN: Lets tear it down

@TheRealUnconnected 5 лет назад

Bitwit is a nitwit and a soyboy

@alevxzx 5 лет назад

This is one gorgeous video card. Looks very utilitarian, symmetrical, without any plastic/glue/LED nonsense.

@impo997 5 лет назад

wow this is a very simple cooler design, but still looks that it can cool a lot let's hope at least that it does XD

@Goriaas 5 лет назад

with 300w power draw it better cools REALLY well

@gamtax 5 лет назад

The only I doubt is that graphite thermal pad, though the number is much higher than my cheapo thermal paste. But hope it will do just like it should...

@ihatedwang 5 лет назад

@@gamtax I'm sure tests have shown that thermal pads only have 1-2c differemce. However, this thermal pad is "different" than things like grizzly pad and others I think.... In other words, I doubt you'd need to change the pad for some good thermal paste/ or find it necessary for a degree or so difference.

@kanoeyuuko195 5 лет назад

Buildzoid about NDA: i cannot do performance testing for you abut i will do volt mod instead

@weeooh1 5 лет назад

XFX: "we only enforce it in places we can screw people over."

@tjeulink 5 лет назад

that cooling solution is an beautiful craft honestly. really shows an passion of their jobs imo.

@dawienel1142 5 лет назад

that cooler looks amazing, almost worth the $700 dollar price tag lol, I've got my fingers crossed regarding the performance.

@SerpentXTech 5 лет назад

Looking forward to thermals, and performance metrics, thanks for teardowns, unique to this channel.

@SweetBabyJay 5 лет назад

Around 17 minutes in, you state that only 2.5 of the heat pipes make contact with the "relevant area" referring to the area directly above the die, with the heat spreading characteristics of a vapor chamber, wouldn't any area on the vapor chamber that those heat pipes come in contact with be a "relevant area"? BTW great tear-down as always.

@youtubasoarus 5 лет назад

I think the pipes themselves actually serve as expansion for the vapor to be wicked away from the vapor chamber (the square part of the sandwich). They are not actually in the sandwich part, they are like the fingers of a glove I think, where the palm is the vapor chamber itself.

@SweetBabyJay 5 лет назад

@@youtubasoarus I am 99% sure they are a separate system, as attaching the heat pipes to the vapor chamber in such a manner as to allow for effective wicking action to occur would be extremely expensive. It's hard to see with the fin stack, but most likely they are each isolated heat pipes sitting on top of the vapor chamber, just like the new Nvidia RTX cards.

@youtubasoarus 5 лет назад

@@SweetBabyJay dont think that's how it works man. They are integral to the whole assembly one big chamber. How else would the liquid from around the die evap? Where would it go? It goes int the tubes, settling into a vapor and hence wicking away the heat.

@SweetBabyJay 5 лет назад

@@youtubasoarus vapor chambers have the condensation occur at the top of the chamber and the liquid travels back down to the base along the edges. Their function is to spread heat. That's where the fins on top come into play, to dissipate heat. Heat pipes transfer heat from one place to another. If placed on top of a vapor chamber they are quite effective. Look at the Nvidia thermal solution for the RTX 2080ti, they are heat pipes soldered on top of the vapor chamber. Really, we need @Gamersnexus to cut this heatsink in half to tell us once and for all of the heat pipes are a fully integrated as a single wicking system (a first as far as I know in the industry) or if it is just heat pipes soldered/fused on top of a vapor chamber which is a common practice. Steve needs to do it, in the name of science.

@MATTE.U.K 5 лет назад

I just want to say I love blower coolers. I think they are really cool because they move hot air away from the card as quickly as possible, the triple or dual fan designs blow hot air straight back onto the pcb.

@yitaozhang5847 5 лет назад

That should be TDA21472. They are 70A power stages but nowhere to find data sheet.

@tommihommi1 5 лет назад

www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-Power_and_Sensing_Selection_Guide_2018-SG-v00_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d4625607bd13015621522aa012cb this has some data on them on page 178, but no datasheet. Probably the same file you found, anyways

@yitaozhang5847 5 лет назад

@@tommihommi1 Yes that's the same as I found. If it is a improved version of TDA21470, it should be able to handle 30A with 95%+ efficiency. That's quite impressive.

@tommihommi1 5 лет назад

@@yitaozhang5847 I have some friends who work at Infineon, maybe they can get the data (but it's unlikely). If they leak it to me, I'll send it to buildzoid loo

@Gyan_wang 5 лет назад

@@yitaozhang5847 compare with www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-ProductBrief_LatestGeneration_IntegratedPowerStages_25V-PB-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d462533600a40153981e815e7466 , 21470 seems to have slightly wider input voltage range and higher operation frequency from 1MHz to 1.5MHz.

@ash36230 5 лет назад

AMD: "Here's a GPU, but you're under review embargo" GN: "Oh ok... well... guess we'll just crack it open and see inside then"

@DawidDoesTechStuff 5 лет назад

This card will definitely need some liquid cooling.

@Narwaro 5 лет назад

Got both Vega cards on launch. I think Im gonna get this one as well. I sold the Vega cards used a year later for more I paid at launch. They are good cards. They compute and game as a benefit.

@dylansedits8047 5 лет назад

Other techtubers: We can only unbox it GN: *the cooler counts as a box*

@not12listen 5 лет назад

The fact that AMD didn't make it unreasonable to open/service the GPU deserves absolute credit! It also makes it easier for us to swap it to a liquid cooled solution, if ya know, that itch needs/wants to be scratched. :)

@teutonictrickery7497 5 лет назад

Is it wrong of me to say, that this card looks visually more pleasing than the entire Nvidia lineup?

@mpk6664 5 лет назад

No, AMD has always made better looking cards than Nvidia.

@TheLoucM 5 лет назад

@@mpk6664 From 780 up until vega you really going to say that ?

@viperbite18 5 лет назад

These graphite sheets are also on the asus strix fury cards. Thanks for doing the research finding what it is because I couldn't find it on google lol.

@yumplife7270 5 лет назад

for some reason i love the design of the AMD cards over the nvidia founders

@Safetytrousers 5 лет назад

It's called personal taste.

@CosmicCleric 5 лет назад

@@Safetytrousers AMD's design seems cleaner though.

@Safetytrousers 5 лет назад

I took the comment to mean the visual appeal. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

@TheLoucM 5 лет назад

@@Safetytrousers You are not allowed to like anything nvidia these days.

@piers389 5 лет назад

Since the products are built in one country (mostly) and shipped out around the world but with different packaging, the 'warranty void if removed' stickers are kept as they are only not valid in North America. Every country in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and most in Asia honours the manufacturer's request.

@urtzy 5 лет назад

They won't enforce over the broken sticker, but that sticker being broken will lead them to find something else "wrong" with the card and allow them to deny your claim. GPU manufacturers are shady.

@cagc7963 5 лет назад

wow the quality of that stock cooler is impresive, i understand the msrp now

@flawio 5 лет назад

Buildzoid is drooling over this atm.

@pyrozeus1761 5 лет назад

Had to like the video Because, The Sticker is Not Removed but modified so Warranty is still in included. Great Job Steve.

@NickTrouble 5 лет назад

I think the thermal pad is better for HBM becsuse thermal paste sometimes doesn't spread to the HBM.

@WildEngineering 5 лет назад

pulling out that XFX 7850 had me a nostalgia moment. I used to game on an fx6300 with XFX 7870 with the dual fans that looked just like that @2:00

@LosisChannel 5 лет назад

did anyone saw the ATI Stickers on the Backplate? Its still ATI (internly)

@MephistoDerPudel 5 лет назад

Timestamp?

@LosisChannel 5 лет назад

@@MephistoDerPudel on the german pcgh Video,,

@MephistoDerPudel 5 лет назад

@@LosisChannel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rm5P16LT2As.html There it is :D Witzig.

@cmdrflint9115 5 лет назад

Beautiful looking card, I think AMD has really nailed the asthetics with their industrial looking brushed aluminium shrouds.

@mycosys 5 лет назад

It seems especially ironic they put the blockage in the fan shroud RIGHT over the GPU itself

@dogechallenger4994 5 лет назад

Not really relevant if there is a fkin block of copper above it anyway. Propably should just push some cooler air to the copper.

@MrOsmodeus 5 лет назад

seems like a good proportion of that heatsink is overhang anyway. that logo is nothing a dremel couldn't fix if it turned out to be a problem. it's just a LED lit piece of plastic on an aluminium plate

@seanthenetworkguy8024 5 лет назад

"warranty void if removed" proceeds to screw right through the sticker. love this channel lol

@LeleSocho 5 лет назад

how's that type of magnifying lens called (the satechi one)?

@vitaobatera 5 лет назад

Hubble

@MercenaryTau 5 лет назад

ReadMate

@killshot117 5 лет назад

This is why I sub and follow GN. They dont care about "Whats in the box" they care about what the card actually is and what's inside

@MrSandwichk 5 лет назад

thats a lot of copper ..is that real?

@JohnyMcNeal 5 лет назад

No, they painted iron.

@Akkbar21 5 лет назад

It’s electroplated probably.

@Nolan431 5 лет назад

It's plastic.

@MunkeyChips 5 лет назад

It's painted wood. Mahogany; extra-fancy.

@CaveyMoth 5 лет назад

It's unobtanium

@WhyGuy2387 5 лет назад

Very nice! Looks very tidied up and straight forward. I like the simple and clean industrial-esque look.

@panzerd18 5 лет назад

Looks like an expensive heatsink

@tommihommi1 5 лет назад

step 1: Cripple airflow for design step 2: Have to build an expensive heatsink to compensate

@CaveyMoth 5 лет назад

$320 of HBM + $180 of heatsink. Blocking airflow with a big, gaudy company logo is hip nowadays.

@anonanonski2234 5 лет назад

@@tommihommi1 Doesn't look like they crippled airflow for design, looks fairly decent as far as coolers go

@soaphelps 5 лет назад

my old 5870 vapor-x on the wall is a proud papa crying right now.. :)

@anasevi9456 5 лет назад

@Cavey Möth forgive me for my whataboutism; but GPU's have a way to go before they start pulling the same shit we are seeing on motherboards these days. I miss the X58 days, where companies like Asrock would use cheapo vrm's for value mobo's, but cool them so well that they OC's just a bout as well as vastly larger and more expensive designs. [ X58 Extreme3 for reference]

@Kiyometa 5 лет назад

Definitely have to say that Gamers Nexus always has the best content with the most information. They are willing to do as much as they can while toeing the line for us viewers. Thanks Steve!

@RagingBubuli 5 лет назад

You just exposed your fingerprint.

@Teth47 5 лет назад

FYI, those heat pipes are all cooling the GPU as directly as the fins are. The vapor chamber takes heat from a concentrated point and spreads it to the rest of its surface at basically the speed of sound, any point you cool will take heat out about as well as any other. Also those heat pipes are massive. I ussed similar sized ones to cool my laptop when its stock cooler died (It is no longer a laptop) and they take 70W apiece. Accounting for the loss in effectiveness due to those bends, they're good for ~300W.

@probablynotabigtoe9407 5 лет назад

All 5 heat pipes make direct contact with the vapor chamber... all 5 of them make relevant contact because that is the point of the vapor chamber.

@Xxazer23 5 лет назад

god damn, i flinched every time you missed the screw and landed on the PCB

@VatchGaming 5 лет назад

Next, AMD works with Gsync!

@TheZax85 5 лет назад

Impressive build quality... Looking forward to the results of the benchmarks. Hope this will give some competition from AMD again. Loved the previous Vega series!

@WGAPGaming 5 лет назад

When is performance embargo lifted?

@danbrown5045 5 лет назад

February 7th I think.

@bnr32rbpower 5 лет назад

Did you even watch the video?

@WGAPGaming 5 лет назад

bnr32rbpower yeah he actually didn’t give a date did you watch it? Hopefully it’s before release day

@WGAPGaming 5 лет назад

Dan Brown thanks was hoping it would be before

@React2Quick 5 лет назад

Feburary 7th. I think that's on purpose and not coincidence. You know because Radeon 7 and Feburary 7?

@shaneeslick 5 лет назад

Thanks for making the unveil interesting Steve, I don't see the point of an unboxing video when the packaging is not retail, looking forward to your performance testing

@TRHardware 5 лет назад

Will reference Vega64 waterblocks fit also this Vega VII?

@gettYoO 5 лет назад

good question ... it looks like it might fit ... *fingerscrossed"

@ElonMusk-Krypto 5 лет назад

It cant fit the GPU die is way bigger... Vega 64 die size is 495mm² and Vega 7 is 331mm²

@TRHardware 5 лет назад

@@ElonMusk-Krypto But the package area is the same to me. It seems so.

@gettYoO 5 лет назад

@@TRHardware pcfiend.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/AMD-Vega-20-vs-Vega-10-900x506.jpg

@adamhahler4205 5 лет назад

Seem unlikely. It looks like the VRM design is different.

@davidgunther8428 5 лет назад

All those heat pipes have about the same thermal contract to the gpu. They are all contacted on the opposite face of the vapor chamber, so almost all heat has to be transferred through the evaporating liquid/ condensing vapor. This is very evenly spread across the chamber surface, so the opposite face should be at almost all the same temperature.

@ryzenfromashes 5 лет назад

Power hungry, but the benchmarks will tell us if this card is a flop or not!

@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475 5 лет назад

yeah sadly I suspect the power usage will be horrible even if the card is good.

@mpk6664 5 лет назад

@@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475It should be around the same power draw as the Vega cards.

@shido8597 5 лет назад

well the recommended requirement is 650w, lower than the 750w vega 64 according to powercolor

@BitsBeTrippin 5 лет назад

Great breakdown, always solid content Steve. Missed you in Vegas, maybe next year. Cheers

@NotSoGoodGamingTV 5 лет назад

Do we really need these pre embargo embargoed unboxing "previews"? Edit: Just to clarify I have nothing against the content and the work GN puts into this video (considering a teardown is actually interesting) but more against the practice of "3 different embargos" -placement/teaser -unboxing -finally the actual review

@ayzixx4306 5 лет назад

no but views lul

@dvdkon7165 5 лет назад

This is actually reasonable, not an "unboxing", but a video that GN would likely do anyway.

@raijin2950 5 лет назад

We might not need them but i enjoy watching them.

@Lionheart1188 5 лет назад

You don't like it piss off! Simple.. No ones forcing you to click on the video.

@TechHug 5 лет назад

No, and Steve hates them too lol

@peterpain6625 5 лет назад

Love how you strip it to the bones while all the other channels just unbox it ;)

@Vextime77 5 лет назад

You got permission from AMD to tear down? Another reviewer asked and was denied by AMD.

@mayukaproject2427 5 лет назад

He said initially on the video that anything that anything that is performance, benchmarks, temps etc its not allowed, but dissambly is and GN always careful on embargo rules.

@CaveyMoth 5 лет назад

"May I take apart this GPU, sir?" "Denied! Sit down!" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k6gdltu1a50.html

@oliverturner128 5 лет назад

@@mayukaproject2427 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-izKBlQUxeX8.html In this video there is a different response from AMD

@michaellesak6912 5 лет назад

better to ask for forgiveness than permission, besides its sacrilege to say no when tech jesus wants a teardown

@mitchell3876 5 лет назад

Always the most comprehensive reviews, thanks GN.

@flasha29 5 лет назад

So when are u allowed to post benchmarks?

@uglyduckling81 5 лет назад

flasha29 Friday morning 1am Melbourne time

@pandabuttonftw745 5 лет назад

@@uglyduckling81 Perfect time for me to get paid and decide to buy one :)

@mpk6664 5 лет назад

In about 3 days. The 6/7th.

@DEMENTO01 5 лет назад

Amd did it again: The first company using graphite as a thermal pad for their products, thank you, we hope this will be the norm and not the exception throughout this year

@thedarkpassenger6696 5 лет назад

Watch ASUS come out with the same damn reference design, slap ROG on the side, and charge $2000 for it.... SMH....

@bignishspcinsights1762 5 лет назад

Looks like the PCB has the solder pads for both the GPU Tach LEDs above the 2 x 8-pin power connectors and the Tach LED color setting switch on the back of the PCB as per the original (non-custom) VEGA cards.

@heiselblock 5 лет назад

lolll its not removed.... its modified

@systander 5 лет назад

i haven't watched your videos in a while. you would usually be around 10-20k views and i don't remember how many subscribers. now you're sitting at half a mil subs and substantially more views on your videos by the looks of it. it's about time. i don't understand what took so long!

@tmkongen 5 лет назад

That cooler is a huge design flaw. The air is supposed to blow out on top and bottom. Top is almost closed of and the bottom, well that straight down into the motherboard.

@tommihommi1 5 лет назад

the expensive vaporchamber+heatpipe design with a fuckton of copper is to combat the airflow issues.

@Eskaiyu 5 лет назад

Yeah, the cost of a logo... is paid in thermals.

@youtubasoarus 5 лет назад

So many armchair engineers on here think they know better than a multi-billion dollar company. Amazing. You should go work for them and show them what they did wrong. I'm sure all the engineers who lost sleep over this project would really like to hear what you have to say about their design.

@JohnSmith-ro8hk 5 лет назад

@@youtubasoarus the caveman encourages these troglodytes to make these uninformed comments, he does the same crap in his videos all the time. i've seen him shitting on these type of graphite pads before, saying he would do testing, and nothing comes of it. probably because it outperforms his sponsor?

@Eskaiyu 5 лет назад

@@youtubasoarus I am happy engineering at my current company. What makes an 'armchair engineer' in your opinion? I actually design and test electronic component coolers at the moment. How many hours have you spent reading airflow and fluid sim data? Here is a simple experiment you can do at home: (for the kids) Get some temperature monitoring software, and run your preferred PC stress test. Check the high temperature recorded. Let it normalize. Reset your monitoring software. Then, cover half the exhaust of the case with something, tape, paper, cardboard... optionally write your name on it. Run the same stress test. Notice the temperature difference? It doesn't really take an engineer to figure out cutting off a large percentage of airflow on an air cooler will affect efficacy. And in the case of computer components, this will certainly lead to performance throttling in sustained work loads. It seems like the entire Vega line is plagued with cooling issues. But damn... they look gorgeous! I can't wait to get mine.

@orcite 5 лет назад

What a beauty this card! OC probabilities are insane!

@PinchOfLuck 5 лет назад

I think it comes OCed to hell already out of the box, just to get remotely close to 2080 performance. Simmilar to how Vega 64 was.

@orcite 5 лет назад

@@PinchOfLuck how you mean? I have a vega 56 clocked to 1750mhz core and 1150mhz hbm2. I would like to expect same overclocking potential as vega56/65?

@ugetridofit 5 лет назад

I do love your channel. However being a R&D engineer and seeing what customers return trying to claim the warranty is insane. Clearly they had no idea what they were doing, and screwed it up, then they expect the manufacturer to spend their time and money fixing what they messed up. Not to pick bones here, but you and Linus both touch these sensitive boards all the time without a static strap on your arm. Sheesh, why do you think they comes in static bags? because they like to spend more money? This is why I do not understand your thinking about the warranty. For instance. I make a device like your video card. I have properly torqued down the heat-sink to the board. Then some ha-ho wants to put new paste on. When he screws it down he over torqued the heatsink and cracked the die, or something else on the board. They he wants to claim the warranty. Why should I as the manufacturer pay for his screw up out of my own pocket ? How is that right?

@rako81sna 5 лет назад

Basicly you dont have to pay for stuff, that a customer fucked, i dont really get your point. Lot of companys are using these stickers, so they actually know if they customer removed the cooler. If the sticker is fine, they dont have to look for damage, that someone might did, by removing the cooler. Time is money. If the sticker is broken, and they see obvious damage, done by a customer, then they can and most likely will deny warrenty.

@yumplife7270 5 лет назад

and yet they havent ruined anything from a static shock hmm.....

@markusbraunholz2220 5 лет назад

So how much is the Torque on that screws? do you have any reference. do you have a special tool to test? is your waranty void if you open your cars hood and screw up at the engine? Do you refill the most important part of your cars engine... the oil? how do you know that you use the right oil? Is your waranty void if you take "kind" of the right oil? Pointless isnt it?

@MrAaronArson 5 лет назад

As far as I know usually Linus has an anti static strap attached to his leg and a table leg.

@dickr9345 5 лет назад

A wild elitist 'ha-ho' has appeared, and with a smug level of 6+. Quick, someone catch it and take it to an optometrist, as it appears to need its vision corrected.

@based_will 5 лет назад

Beastly cooler! Can't wait to see how it performs!

@RS-bl7mj 5 лет назад

They should let board partners make their own so they can actually look good 😥 I can't think of anything that thing will match...

@shido8597 5 лет назад

2-3 months

@RS-bl7mj 5 лет назад

@@shido8597 They're actually letting them be made? I thought I read something crazy like only 500 made and no board partners involved... Although that could just be AMDs initial release and I'm just an idiot 😅

@mycosys 5 лет назад

@@RS-bl7mj there is no way AMD is designing a new chip to make 500 of. And if they did, we sure as hell couldnt afford them. Think house per chip.

@RS-bl7mj 5 лет назад

@@mycosys Yeah I'm thinking I read things wrong. Now I'm seeing 5000 but still says no custom cards which kinda sucks.

@isakh8565 5 лет назад

@@mycosys It's just a repurposed Instinct, so not much extra designing going on. Reportedly it costs AMD $750 to make each one, which means they will be selling them at a loss (but staying kind of relevant until they can get Navi out, so maybe worth the small loss). Still, they will make a lot more than 500 lol

@jakeiswayblack3377 5 лет назад

I'm really digging the Team Rocket design and color scheme

@djsahilking3807 5 лет назад

How can you get this card so early bro lol😂😂

@djsahilking3807 5 лет назад

Bro

@shido8597 5 лет назад

@@djsahilking3807 reviewer's card

@djsahilking3807 5 лет назад

So he can test this card bro 😂😂

@sherwinparvizian2414 5 лет назад

What is an embargo

@djsahilking3807 5 лет назад

You can do something that not allowed bro 😁

@samheasmanwhite 5 лет назад

As a note graphite has an effectively unlimited lifespan without degradation from drying and should be more consistent if assembled well. A bit thicker though so I would expect performance to be a lower than a well done paste job but still way better than any normal thermal pad.

@poofypoof6508 5 лет назад

Gamers Nexus does the only true unboxing. Thanks!

@timothyandrewnielsen 5 лет назад

I like how this card looks. Seems to be very well designed. I hope it performs well!

@diGritz1 5 лет назад

1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states, Void Stickers are Illegal. The only repair restrictions that are allowed are in the event that they provide free parts for repair or servicing. This also includes things like using unapproved parts for repair. As well as the product being used or purchased through an unlicensed vendor. That said there is a waiver that the FTC can issue but it's rare.

@Jobastion 5 лет назад

Based on that bit around 18:00 , I now want to see you do a before and after thermal comparison where you dremel off that bit that extends from the nameplate to get more airflow.

@allannunes1 5 лет назад

Agressive unboxing, good job ! Glad to see the reference cooler is so good !

@Vegerot 5 лет назад

Please do some production benchmarks as well, those are always interesting to see.

@Gruntsworth 5 лет назад

That chunk of pad that you left on the GPU was driving me nuts!

@michelvanbriemen3459 5 лет назад

A Hitachi thermal pad? Sweet, now my PC can enjoy itself while gaming too!

@hugodm7414 5 лет назад

the best coolter created in 2018/2019 creativity and disign thumbs up for ADM

@origionalwinja 5 лет назад

As always, epic video. I'm hoping for good performance numbers. As soon as you release the benchmark video I'll be deciding on if I'm getting one or not.