AMD Ryzen 8000 Delidded - Liquid Metal Changes Everything! 

AMD is also going to intel's path of shiiiity TIM

"Oh, Dear can I get an optical height measurement tool for my computer?"

@@DIYTech21 AMD is dead, they failed. Intel is still producing CPU's ! German engineering is dead too !

@@lucasremhuh

@@lucasrem bro is mad that AMD is better than intel.

100% this

Why

Some people hit 10000-11000

@@visitante-pc5zc Because the memory controller is integrated into the same 4nm die as the cores. In the regular Ryzen 7000 lineup, memory controller sits in the 6nm cIOD. That's also why FCLK (Infinity fabric controller) reach 2400Mhz easily while it usually goes up to 2000-2100Mhz on Ryzen 7000x.

@@visitante-pc5zc Because DDR5 shows actual performance gains when using RAM with a higher frequency/higher data rate. You can gain upwards of 5% going from base speeds to 6000MHz, and being able to run 8000MHz or more is even more performance.

You need a measuring tool for the 3D printer ? Germans are cool, need that on social ? Klates menschen

@@lucasrem Hah. That tool probably costs as much as a CNC mill. Which is to say, new cars are cheaper. On the other hand, a 3D printer that could actually use that level of accuracy would probably cost the same.

Maybe can scope in on streets without losing frames XD

I am more interested in improving 1% low fps in games like CS2 to avoid those laggspikes when playing on competitive levels.

7200 is child's play. These chips are setting records for DDR5. Already 10600 has been done at ambient.

DDR5 10 000 MT/S+++ and you've got GTX 1070 performance :-D

​@@alexskywalker888on intel

Makes me excited for ryzen 9000 and what it’s capable of

Why

Check out intel.

Yes _but_ only 16MB L3 cache and PCIe 4.x so you're limited in other ways, will have to push RAM and IF speed for it.

just 110W is as well as impressive.

Everything is in same die. What do you think it will be?

@@tr9036 Is the package power limit the same for cpu only vs gpu only vs mixed workloads? The gpu cores are also located on a different part of the die (obviously) so the heat density of the workloads should presumably be different. It isn't a given at all that the result would be the same.

@@Your_Paramour So, you know most of the things pretty detailly. I suggest you to not expect anything major.If cpu goes up to 93, gpu will go max 70-80 since it is just a simple gpu.

Or the frequency changes. When I load the iGPU on the 7600 when it's overclocked, even by 100Mhz, it locks it to ~2700 despite having a little temperature headroom. (Also ASUS's UEFI setting for GFX Core Offset doesn't seem to work, I have to use the AMD overclocking settings for voltage adjustment. CPU CO settings work fine.)

i was wondering why he didnt test it, as an improvement in the igpu could mean this thing is viable to run game even better

like the black 'pads'?

​@@Enozenim_LJOholy shit yea, looks like s462 cpus

@@00zero557Aikr super cool coincidence

and the colour! @@Enozenim_LJO

The black pads on the Durons. Lol, yep, I feel that bro.

"Would *have..."

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@@tomppeli. waddle

I was waiting for such a video from a Buildzoid, but not sure if he's actually going to do something like that

Skatterbencher overclocked both the CPU and IGPU, and he confirmed it loves faster ram. Perhaps some Patriot Viper Xtreme 5 PC5-65600 (8200MT/s) . Skatterbencher doubled his tomb raider score from stock when he oc'd the CPU and IGPU, and he only overclocked his ram to EXPO 7800 but said he wasnt sure what timings to adjust to to get better stability. So now we have more thermal headroom for even greater overclocking and tinker with ram timings on Hynix A die kits. Maybe we can get closer to matching a 6500 xt???

They make great products, well aside from the plastic thing which goes around the outside of ryzen 7k series cpu's. Had one tear on me then just went fuck this shit.

You don't need to buy a delidder or anything. Use a piece of dental floss to cut the glue. Do each leg individually and it only takes 10 min. Completely safe. Then put some nail polish on the SMDs and apply liquid metal. You'll get the same results as shown here.

Man uses stupidly expensive measuring equipment to verify his company's products are compatible with a part... More seriously, it was fun and I wish I had those cool toys, I mean tools. I'll give some basics in case you or anyone else isn't aware. With the caveat that my degree focused on the electronics and low level programming side. Thermal transfer is more of a Mechanical Engineer's domain. The goal is to move heat away from the chip as efficiently as possible. Three things affect that, chip temperate, temperature of the thing the heat is moving to, how well the stuff between those two conducts heat. Which is further affected by two things, how much stuff there is and it's "thermal conductivity". More or less, the chip's temperature is relatively fixed. A perfectly efficient normal cooler would mean the other side is room temperature. Since he's using the same cooler for both tests that's also fixed here. Which means playing with that 3rd variable. Stupid example, if you put a square of fabric cut from an oven mitt, the heat wouldn't move from the chip to the cooler that well. Both because it would be thick and because fabric does not conduct heat well. Same thing goes with air. Any air gap means you have an insulator. The thermal paste that came on the chip had a thickness and liquid metal is thinner, so he was measuring to make sure there would not be an air gap. The reasons those two products are better than stock is because the Cryosheet has a higher thermal conductivity. Meanwhile, liquid metal is both thinner* and has a higher thermal conductivity. To be honest, the Cryosheet result was the craziest part to me. Mostly because that's the type of thing that could be easily done by AMD at the factory for < $10 per chip to improve performance by a meaningful margin. * Manufacturing tolerances and material selection do mean AMD isn't deliberately making things thick just to decrease performance.

Can recommend upgrading. I also had a 5700G, now a 8700G, vast improvement!

The 7600 and 7600X are great intro AM5 products.

And you can totally push it to ~5.3Ghz with a tweaked base clock and good cooling, although it's not got the best silicon quality so cores can use a lot of power. Impressed with what can be done with a 2 CU RDNA2 iGPU as well, although it's unfortunate that OCing it can seemingly limit the CPU core frequency.

fitztech Most people do 65 Watt CPU now, the 14900 H/HX in all of these hardcore for gaming systems is the best. Need a nerdy tweak system, for for these 14900 K CPU's, make it yourself at home ?

@@lucasrem what is bro doing?

* on an actual AMD platform Because pretty sure a vintage build with delidding, watercooling and LM can easily achieve more perf increase compared to stock.

​@@PainterVierax in the "old" days when an amd 450mhz was the top of the line cpu, it could be clocked stable to 900+mhz with watercooling. Try that with any new cpu today

@@scaniav8530able I know, that's why I'm saying! It's crazy how nowadays people spend a lot more extra money for a lot less perf gains.

@@PainterVierax I know. That's why I rather run mostly stock and paired to only what games I play now

He’s got a share in Thermal Grizzly, so might be the reason why he recommends replacing it after using it once 🫢

On the 7600 overclocking the iGPU at all seemingly leads to mandatory ~2.7Ghz clock-limiting of the CPU all-core workload under simultaneous iGPU load (even if headroom exists). If temperature exceeds 95C then the CPU speed is sacrificed further in preference to GPU performance.

What about surface tension.😊

​@@Antagon666Half Life

​@@Antagon666it's not water, but some materials pair with liquid metals well because of the ions involved. Easiest way to find out is to try 😅

pretty sure LM would just destroy the structure of the sheet. kryosheets if you haven't got one, are extremely fragile.

@@PlayingItWrong do you know that pretty much all liquids have surface tension, I would go as far as to say that LM has higher surface tension than water.