American McGee's Alice Review - And Its Sequel 

Can you stop putting this f*cking smile on each and every face?

I did for over a year. I wonder if he’s any closer to getting it done? I got done with sinking money into it and I love the series and the man.

He's developing a third game. About time!

@@xAxCx He’s been working on it for years. Our enemy, EA owns the rights I believe and won’t let it go. Last I checked, about a year ago, he was doing pre production but didn’t have the rights. I’d been funding it for over a year and was no closer to seeing it come to light. Which sucked. And why I stopped sending money

He also tried to do a Wizard of Oz game… that failed funding. His art style is the best, but somehow can’t seem to get a game off the ground. I would buy it all, but there’s nothing to buy. Shame.

Is no one going to mention that this is literally American Mcgee? Nobody? Okay. Btw love your work man!

I’m amazed that this man can work on a third Alice game and also watch almost every review of the first two games ever made on RU-vid.

perhaps you can answer directly ... why such a NVidia "incompatibility" of the second game? i remember i managed to play Alice Madness Returns on my pc with Integrated Intel Graphics without a single hiccups

I hope to play the third game soon

It's great seeing you here

I love them, both were really jaw dropping regading art and creativity, but... The thing is that the moment you looked under the rug, you realized that the moment to moment gameplay or combat were rather dull and there i say, not much fun. They were much cooler for what you saw, than for how you felt playing them. The exact same way as with most modern indies.

i remember playing the first Alice so many times. My first computer was a wheezy powerbook G4 1ghz; and the only games it could run consistently well were turn of the century titles [1998-2001]. out of the five Aspyr ports of pc games i had on my macs, this was my favourite.

But where can i buy this game?

it's normal the game looks trash and dark shit! xD

True!

i knew it! i wasn't certain but my first guess WAS lovecraft :)

Time for the fish orgies.

Now c’mon now, I know that Lovecraft doesn’t live up to his last name, and probably wouldn’t want to talk to me because of my non-anglo-saxon heritage, but don’t let his controversial views stop you from enjoying his stories(even though there are racial moments, like describing a sailor of color, a nautical-looking*spanish word for black*)

@@DeadlyAlienInvader your example isn't even racist. Just an outdated term. Negro is not a racist word, you're thinking of a different N word derived from from what you obviously know is just the word for black in multiple languages including Latin.

Lmao thought it was a reference to “the lighthouse” for a sec

Sounds like something I'd do. Get bored of one game, trade it in for another, come back and pick it up when it's cheap so you can play it again when you're ready.

Maybe the goth chick just wanted to see you?

@@Fireglo maybe that was it? The boost of self-esteem I needed, thank you

@Mercy Stroke asking the real questions, and yes absolutely

@Mercy Stroke only 1

and both are still on Xbox

EA has copy rights to it

@@robbins531 Hence the 'while other EA games came back.'

Some sort of rights issue. Music or otherwise. That's usually the case.

@@Darca1n EA is EA. Priolly the same reason we can't get the XMen LEgends game.

Malice... I like it.

I don't really like that name because it insinuates that this version of Alice is evil, which she isn't. Dark Alice is better because it's more ambiguous.

Funny name choice, because there actually does exist a 3D platformer called Malice. It's not great though, even if i do like it enough. It was the last game by Argonaut and the final game isn't what was meant to be the final product. There's a story behind it that some might find very interesting. There's even a series of videos here on YT depicting what the final product should've been like instead of the released game, including stuff like five elemental powers based on the Chinese five elements instead of the normal four, time travel and different voice acting and roles for certain characters and objects. I hope it will one day get a second chance and be good stuff.

Omg mine too! My older sister and I played it together multiple times and listern to gothic bands like the birthday massacre its such a vibe and they go so well together :D i

wholesome

Yes it is, both alices are unofficial "sequels" to the original alice story

Yes you are right which is exactly what I came here to comment

She's 18 years old in the game

@@H3llBaron 22 actually and in Madness Returns 23. I read those Wilsons Case files. It came with original game in the booklet manuel. But you can find it on the Alice wiki. Its actually really good read. I think she was 11 when the house fire happened...and when she was in the orphanage or asylum she fell into a coma for 8 years when she was 14. Something like that

Not really. American McGee's Alice is totally different to the original so it can't be considered as sequel.

To quote mystery science theater "they just didn't care!"

A live action Alice in wonderland movie should have been SO GOOD, but instead it sucked balls. What a crying shame.

Jesus... To answer your question: because TBs whole mentality towards art is"it's whacky and quirky lmao 😆"

@@Largentina. Sleepy Hollow, Big FIsh, Sweeny Todd, did you forget about those movie?

Let’s just remember they cursed us with a sequel that no one asked for lmaoo

Pretty sure a new one is in development, check American McGees twitter

@@cruelstriker670 wasn't he making a comic series for years know?

Alice Asylum is still in the works. AM doesnt need EA's permission to make another Alice game since it's a subjective and highly adapted story anyway.

@@ZigealFaust The source material is also public domain.

I'd love to see a 3rd game in this series. I have no interest in playing the first one since it's so old now, but the theme of Alice in Wonderland really needs to be explored more in gaming.

I always get stutters with it, but I always seem to stutter on Unreal 3 games for some reason. It seems like texture loading

I also played it without any real tech issues and I find it to be one of the best crafted games ever in terms of artistic vision. Every single level is unique and memorable, every weapon feels good to use and has an apperance that changes when you upgrade it, and there are so damn many themes hidden in tiny details (holy shit the nightmare fuel that is Dollhouse). I also like how Alice's femininity is depicted as a strength. Her Wonderland self, the strong version of herself, exudes feminine beauty much more so than her everyday self, the asylum level (aka, the level where you feel the most exposed and weak) is the level that takes away all her feminine traits (shaves her hair and puts her in a baggy straight jacket), and the depiction of her in the ending is also "femininity is a symbol of strength" in how it plays out. And of course you have to mention the dresses. Every last one of them is creatively designed and they are absolutely gorgeous. It's honestly really hard to say which one is my favorite, but I can safely say that they look an awful lot better than most "sexy" designs for female character clothing in many games.

I'm trying to find out if Alice the madness returns is a sequel of this game Is it, please?

@@JessyingAround Um, the video literally says that MR is the sequel...

@@carljohan9265um, I think it's quite understandable not wanting to watch a 25+ minutes video for that 1 little piece of information you're not even sure if it's there or not. And also, I didn't need spoilers But thanks anyways for letting me know

It would be a really fucked-up game in which to give the female main character a titillating swap of clothes, considering the story.

this isnt a video about madness returns tho

What about the costume where she only wears tentacles and nothing else?

@@bluemonday2000 Well I know where this is going

Damn, that sounds like it would’ve awesome and probably pretty unique

@@jeremyroberts8822 It was going to be a zombie game BTW

Do not fret! It is in the works now! They are even gonna make a tv show out of it.

If you want to support the project you should definitely check out his socials and stuff

Yeap! These kind of comments remind me of Mark from Classic Game Room, they simply tell us if cutting people in half and burning monsters with a flamethrower is fun or not in those games and that's what I want to know!

I agree. Pseudo-academic video essays and reviews are fun and interesting but a lot of the time I just wanna hear someone talk about if a game is fun.

There's a certain pretentious nature to videogame essay and critique on RU-vid these days. It's definitely refreshing to have someone like G-man who just tells it like it is and gives his honest opinion without fluffing about too much

You're just a filthy casual who doesn't actually play games then, because there are a SHITLOAD released ALL THE TIME. Not to mention we're in the golden age of indie game development. All we need is more AA games to fill the in-between, and guess what they're coming back too with less-than-full-price releases like the very fun Necromunda: Hired Gun. Like I said, you're clearly just a clueless casual.

I mean...doom eternal, prodeus and ULTRAKILL. Most platinum games, all of Capcom recently.

You can partly blame Hideo Kojima for that. He wants his games to be like films...

You can partly blame Hideo Kojima for that. He wants his games to be like films...

I'd say the Alice games had a *fair* amount of depth to them. They're basically a journey through her subconscious mind.

Great minds think alike.

Same I was watching Grim's review yesterday and now this shows up. Amazing.

It’s really coincidental because I just played both Alice games for the first time last month. Hopefully with some buzz returning for the games, a developer will finally work with American McGee to make a third title.

Great minds think alike.

Sounds like you had a cool dad.

total childhood

That would be amazing!

Speaking of psychonauts. Raz’s body is in the queens castle level on madness returns. Thought it was a cool Easter egg. Can’t wait for psychonauts 2 as well.

What's the best way to play Psychonauts? I played it on PS2 back in the day, but I don't have a CRT anymore. I tried playing it on PS4 but it looks AWFUL! Not optimized for the HD display at all. Steam, maybe? Are there mods for the PC version to make it look better?

played this game with gtx1060 i5 perfectly fine idk why u crying like girl

@@donnylurch4207 pretty sure you can buy it on the ps store for ps4.

Me too. Probably because I bought Undying bundled with Alice.

It's incredible how he was Out-Burton'd by this game. I love his movies but it felt soulless and lackluster. Where's the live action or claymation film adaptation of this version? That would be sick. 😤

If only we could all forget...

If the DOOM songs were made by some one who has an edge for farting alot 😂😂😂

I had the game open for the first time in years because of Grimbeard's video. Got to the bathroom, opened youtube, and BOOM, Gman also made a video. Crazy.

One of my high school GF's was madly in love with the series, so much so that I couldn't get her to just lend it to me so I could play it.

same i had the biggest crush on alice

@@MelindaColden Still so cool.

Same lol I still own both games on PS3 and when physical drops in price I'll buy it again.

The hivemind

The illuminati of game reviewers has done it again 😇

😆

Him and civvie released cruelty squad video at almost the same time too

Cruelty Squad is brand new, so of course everyone is talking about it "at the same time". But how does a "retrogame" like this get picked up? @@tardwrangler1019

at this rate you're more likely to get andrew hulshult

I fail to see how they'd fit together.

He was an ass with his colleagues in Bethesda, I really don't want him

I know more ppl who purchased the doom soundtrack than the actual game.

@@smugplush idk, I get why you might say he’s overrated but I think his work stands on its own merits. He has a certain style that he does really well but I don’t think he needs to be called up every time a modern throwback boomer shooter needs a soundtrack. I agree that lesser musicians need a shot though, there’s only so much hulshult groove riffing I can take

@latex glove Question, how does it feel to be so ignorant? I played the original game on PC upon it's release.

@latex glove I sure one like yourself who has accepted a lower quality standard of living would say such a prosperous thing.

There is no The in the title

@latex glove Imagine caring more about the platform rather than the actual game…

@latex glove Console vs PC is a dead debate, troll harder next time

A full version of that would actually be rather motivating

You know where can I get the first one?

@@josedeorta4026 eBay . Got mine few years back for 5 EUR.

@@josedeorta4026 i have madness returns on playstation and the first one is free with it

Thanks, I'll look for it

There is the creator of the searis is planning on making another game

Plot twist: Gman and Grim Beard are the same person... like Mandalore and Sseth!

@@HorrorUberAlles like Civvie 11 is Mr Plinket

@@willdunn8846 emplemon and funke... there was a third. was it leafy? i dont remember but yeh lol