That would be great, as long as Machine Games is able to do it (the original developers that made the original Darkness game before they left Starbreeze). But that probably won't happen since Bethesda (now Microsoft) owns Machine Games. That's probably why we won't see another Riddick game by Machine Games either.
Yeah his range is insane. Jesus, 6 octaves! The dude will try anything that challenges his vocal cords... He also did all the zombie screams in Left 4 Dead and I Am Legend. It's like it's nothing to him.
My dad said he seemed really happy between high school and Faith No More. He saw him scare a kid new pale by charging at him and growling once in the halls. My dad's more of a fan of Mr Bungle though
@@xm214-aminigun9 his opinion is that he's glad people haven't forgotten about the game and the game is really underrated in his opinion... your either just dumb and or stupid.😂🤡
Played this game on normal until I got the Darkness. Decided to say fuck it and beat the game on the hardest difficulty and immediately went to beat Don. Darkness is one of my favorite damn games and I need to go back and get all the secrets.
The Room would've ended a lot differently if Tommy Wiseau got his hands on The Darkness powers. "YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA. AND NOW I'M GONNA TEAR YOU APART!" (We'd show you what happened to Lisa 5 seconds after this statement, but it would get the movie an X rating)
Is zero punctuation still doing this ? And oh god, the escapist. I remember i spent quite some time on the forums. I don't know how they're doing these days actually.
@@RustlessPotato ZP is still going strong and never lost its identity and quality. And the Escapist, after having almost died a few times, had a resurgence a few years ago when a new Editor-in-Chief took over. The RU-vid channel and the website are actually fun and really active now.
The Darkness 2 has the most realistic depiction of a mental institution I've ever seen. It actually feels like a place that's meant to help people get better instead of being a horrible nightmare like mental hospitals are usually portrayed.
@@Jdemonify Oooh I loved Senua's Sacrifice particularly for its awareness-raising angle. They consulted with actual people living with schizophrenia and with medical professionals and scholars studying the condition when designing the puzzles and writing the story. That aspect of it is so overlooked.
The second really did make Jackie look like the comic counter part. I remember playing the game and reading the comics and saying "I didn't know he had a fucking suit" The Darkness Armor is amazing.
I absolutely loved The Darkness 1. The raw and gritty atmosphere, dark story, loud shooting with heavy metal playing when your demons are active. Starbreeze are one of a kind!
@albert fish exactly. Jackie's voice was perfect. The sequel felt like, they were "trying" to act like the mob, whereas the first felt like the real deal.
@albert fish exactly the same feelings. as a stand alone game darkness 2 wpuld be decent but as a sequel to 1st its just a crap. replayed both now and still feeling like 2nd was just a generic fps (but this time i actually like it a little, my 1st playtrough i hated it with so much passion) :D
I love The Darkness 1 for the same reason I love Bloodbourne or VtM:B, they all hit that dark atmosphere just right. I really liked Darkness 2 but it def didn't feel like a "true" sequel.
I really liked The Darkness back then. I just always thought it was a weaker version of Chronicles of Riddick. The 2nd game I absolutely love. From the break neck pace to the gore to how insanely powerful you feel right away. I also really liked the story.
@lolrus5555 i thought the post credit would be a boss fight. I want my angelus boss fight. (If they make the darkness 3 hope we get a witchblade cameo she was referenced in the first game)
The red arms. You never realized you can knock out lights with them did you? You press RB and they knock out whatever light source is within range. It dramatically changes the entire game, since you dont have to shoot them out anymore.
Dude yes! I remember that feature made taking light sources out a lot easier, satisfying even, you felt badass just smashing lights by stabbing them with the red arm
Your very right i was a little confused too when he said they dont do anything i remember the Monsters on your shoulders doing more then just eating hearts.
Given how Chronicles of Riddick barely improves with the use of mouse and keyboard, I wouldn't expect a huge improvement unless they work on the controls quite a bit. Riddick is one of my favorite games ever and I still find the shooting aspect one of the worst ones ever. And Darkness isn't really that much better. But still, I would buy a port the second they announce it.
THAT moment was the first time in a long time where I had to pause a game and walk away for a moment. Still sticks with me as one of the most amazing moments of a story in a game I've ever seen.
dude the Darkness is one of the most memorable experiences ive had in gaming. D2 played and looked better, but D1 is infinitely more creative and interesting as a game, and that scene will always stick with me
BIG thumbs up for mentioning Beksinski - there's definitely a visual and thematic connection there. And first The Darkness, perhaps by the virtue of nostalgia, remains a minor classic. Certainly in the narrative and world building sense.
The voice actor for the Darkness, Mike Patton, is also the singer for Faith No More, he is well known in the metal community as singer with the highest range going from beautiful melodic singing to low satanic growls and high pitched screeches, so he was pretty much the perfect voice actor here
I remember watching full playthroughs of the series despite never having played it myself and just being drawn in and entertained the whole time, so underrated.
this game is so good and compelling that i beat it in two or three consecutive sittings, ON PLAYSTATION NOW. not only was i playing the BAD version, i was STREAMING it and it was still good enough to draw me to beat.
@@greatdelusion7654 its definitely a gem. One of the games I miss never been a proper sequel of in the style of the first. Its generally sad Starbreeze stopped making Art like the Riddick game together with Tigon studios founded by Vin Diesel and like the first darkness game. Visually they just didnt age and storytellingwise especially riddick is a masterpiece. Good times. But i think we will never get that or a riddick 3
My favorite part of The Darkness 2 isn’t really the gameplay or story, but just spending several minutes listening to Johnny Powell talking about the history of the collectibles.
YES! His voice acting was top notch and always so entertaining to listen to and really made you feel like there was a bigger world out there waiting to be explored.
Its fun to do a run and go through the darkness relics through the first half of the game & then Angelus relics ending with the last when i pop Jennys chain cherry
Imo the whole unique aspect of Darkness 1 was how grounded it was. Something really refreshing and has uniqur vibe I haven't seen in neither games nor any other media.
to me, everything about the Darkness 1 is filtered through the perspective of a random bystander in 90s NYC. Rather than be a total power fantasy, you have to use the subway to get to different places, your main way communication is face to face or via payphone, the payphone numbers doubled as collectibles, and there were normal people all around. That grounding is something Starbreeze was brilliant at, Butcher Bay for example was entirely grounded in being a prisoner, so weapons were sharpened sticks and screwdrivers, collectibles were cigarette packs, and drugs were an alternate currency.
I agree with you both. As nice as TD2 played, the first has an atmosphere. Subways, small rainy appartments, backalleys and warehouses all with a grainy, dark, realistic undertone.
@@Lasagnaisprettycool man i still remember the weekend when i first played the darkness 1. it was already 10 years old, and i was playing it on playstation now, lol. ill be honest and say the PSNow version was, to my memory, totally fine--i had a solid, wired connection in my dorm--and the atmosphere totally blew me away, the shooting was fine, but it was how the story was presented, which these excellently written monologues by Jackie over the loading screens that felt totally natural, and these NPCs in the subway that asked for things that sucked me in. im so tired of shooters that are _only_ shooters, and D1 is a perfect example of how to do it right.
Totally agree and also MAX PAYNE 4 and RED DEAD REDEMPTION 3 and F.E.A.R 5 and SLEEPING DOGS 2 and GTA 6 and a SPLINTER CELL sequel and RAINBOW SIX VEGAS 3 and NEED FOR SPEED UNDERGROUND 3 and NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED 2 and CALL OF DUTY GHOST 2 and TOTAL OVER DOSE 2
@@Mimoudoesgames not exactly but the last F.E.A.R game we have ever got was this F.E.A.R co-op shooter game and it was the fourth entry of this series but this F.E.A.R game wasn't titled as F.E.A.R 4
I actually LOVE the darkness 2. The gameplay was such a banger when I was a kid. It was one of the very few games I instantly replayed after the first finish.
The ost for The Darkness is simply perfect. It still gives me chills to this day. There is a reason this game is a cult classic and widely regarded as a stealth masterpiece by many, and the soundtrack plays a big part in that.
I loved the engine they used for The Darkness 1, same one they used in the Riddick series, had this really polished vibe about it for the time.... I wish they made more games using it. Like some fist fighting beat em up game open world in the streets of a city like in The Darkness.
Well you can use RPCS3 to emulate the PS3 version and get 60FPS, but for me even with 4K the game has more jaggies than the game running on Xbox one X plus there's still an issues with the lighting where it's bloom levels are blown out making everything to bright, so your best bet it backward compatibility as you get 16X AF, Vsync and better performace.
@@robmorris4056 the x360 emulator xenia is supposedly finally good enough to use. I always found it confusing how the PS3 was harder to develop for and especially early on had inferior versions of games, only for PC players to get PS3 emulation down way faster than X360
I absolutely loved The Darkness 2, one the first games I've ever gotten all the achievements for. Still holding out hope we may get The Darkness 3 one day.
I thought for the longest time that these were overly-edgy throwaway shooters, but after jumping in I gotta say that the storyline is one of the best in gaming period.
I rented The darkness 2 for 3 days and it was so good I beat it playing it nonstop. The dual weilding weapons and demon limbs combination is up there with as feeling as invincible as the Doom Guy in Doom Eternal. Very fun game needs more love.
I remember the demon arm in The Darkness being awesome. I thought it did kill people, but even if it didn't, it completely incapacitates and enemy and hovers them in front of you to shoot them. It's a sadist wet dream
I swear I remember impaling people with it and throwing them around, but then again I haven't played the game since I was 13 or 14 so maybe I'm remembering wrong
Yep it killed people almost instantly. You could also destroy light sources with it super quickly while firing your weapons at enemies. You could also use enemies as shields with it and hurl objects at enemies with it as well... including the enemies you just used as a shield lmao You could even throw cars ffs 😂 It was one of the coolest powers imo and very versatile.
I played the hell out of the first Darkness game and only just now realized Jackie immediately ditches the engraved pistols he's given after the car case, the one his mafia 'pal' said "treat those like they were your own". Oops.
The one thing I really love about the shooting in this game is headshots being instant kills on 90% of human enemies. Those mobsters generally didn't take inhuman amounts of damage. That's really the one thing to master here.
@@Dorraj If you play the game, that's literally only the enemies in a couple sections inside Jackie's head, which is mentioned in the review. And it makes sense there because they're in a world created by the Darkness to torment and slow down the character. In the rest of the game, 90% of it like I said, that isn't the case. Headshots just kill instantly
@@kolardgreene3096 he specifically mentions it just being normal dudes, and you can see in the video him shooting people with half a mag square in the chest and just getting back up
@@chinodigitalbath me too,the ending of the darkness 2 really left everyone hanging and i really hope some company makes the darkness 3 where Jackie is now fighting that angel that possessed jenny
@@JnEricsonx Same company, Starbreeze. The difference with Riddick was that at close range, the bloom and reflections made it impossible to see and burned my eyes. With The Darkness's "vision", it ripples and moves, like sound waves over an object. The darker it gets, the better you can "see". Very cool.
Literally almost everything is better in the sequel... I get people enjoy the first for nostalgia reasons but as a game the second one is far and above the better of the two.
@@rochahouse4883 the things that were vastly superior in the 1st game is the environmental storytelling and the open-ended-ness of the game. Everything else such as the gameplay itself is way better in the sequel. Plus, that cliffhanger is pretty dope
@@windebiesteultima3317 Prefer the first game's gameplay, it was the same engine used as escape from butcher bay. Love how the arms move in orientation to your environment, little details like that make the game.
Gman just wanted to say it's awesome stabbing and throwing men with the darkness arm, it's an instant kill, you can also take out lights and throw whole cars [which they sadly replaced with door shields in darkness 2]
The first Darkness game, the Condemned series and a point and click adventure called Still Life are all fantastic mid 2000s gritty urban games that I'll always look back on fondly. Something about all of them just managed to capture the feeling of what the underbelly of city life is capable of hiding, similar to The Wire or the film Se7en. Very hard top put into words why it's so satisfying to watch or play such a genre, just something you have to experience to understand.
My favorite one is the last collectible you get in 2, which is the device that holds the Angelus. The thing is, the Angelus isn't in it, so where is it?
The Darkness 2 is so underrated. I put off playing it because of how savaged it got in reviews and word-of-mouth, but now I think it's one of the better fps of that era. It's so much fucking fun.
A great example of why you shouldn't always listen to reviews tbh, I also loved it when it came out. I just wish the first one got a PC port like it deserves
Yeah I’m pretty sure I only played a demo, either that or played it a little at a friends, but I remember being so surprised at how dope it was because I heard nothing but bad things. Cool ass game that I need to go back and play.
I’m still under the impression that Darkness is one of those games you play on either the easiest for getting your Ripper fix, or playing on Don for the satisfaction on filling each enemy with lead and then ripping them to shreds... god 4 Arms of Quad wielding mayhem and just eviscerating people...
Good review Gman. I don't know if you know this but you can use the demon arm to smash light sources, as long as you're looking at its general location it'll hit the light, eliminating the complaint for shooting them.
you can also impale people with it, making you feel extremley powerfull. also its a one hit kill and you can throw the ragdoll where you want which is the most fun i have had with ragdolls in along time. just the feeling of impaling someone lifting them up and throwing them off a roof.
I really like the feeling of the gunplay in this game, as it has real weight to it. I also miss the days of feeling like you were controlling a character, instead of a floating gun.
Kinda shocked this IP hasn't been given more love. I half expected a live action film adaptation as a kid after getting through the first game. I mean we got the Venom films eventually, but it's not the same. 100% agree this deserves a remaster or even full reboot.
Darkness 2 i think misunderstood what made the first game great. It took the tenticles and made them a more viable combat option, but the tentacles weren't what was cool about the first game. the first game has a world that i actually pretty worthwhile to explore, side missions to do, i love the phone number collectable system, you can watch the ENTIRETY of To Kill a Mockingbird with Jenny, what game does that? The Darkness 1 does
Gameplays king and the first one doesn't feel great to play. It's passable and not to the point of refunding but it's not that great. 2 is better in those aspects which makes for a better more fun experience. Why are we playing video game's? To have fun. If there's a cool well put together story that's a bonus but I don't give a f abour collectibles and phone numbers if the gameplay isn't pushing me forward to want to play and collect them. Also kind of unrelated but the worst thing to happen to the industry and this new crop of gamers is they think good graphics=good game. They also don't understand what an artstyle is and any new game that isn't photorealism is considered not next gen even if it's clearly fn obvious that the artstyle isn't trying to be that. Photorealism in games is so boring and that mindset I bet over the years has stomped on many unique art department Like for example take the first psychonauts game and put it next to a game that came out around the same time but was coined for stunning photorealistic graphics and you'll laugh at how much better psychonauts looks. A great unique artstyle with good gameplay ages better everytime.
@@HonkeyKong54 good point about the art style, i would just argue that d2 didnt age all that well despite it. The gameplay is great, but generic when you think of the actual bullets and how you use the environment. you have the tentacles which can enable some fun, visceral kills, but you as Jackie are just as vulnerable as anyone, so the pace of the gameplay ends up feeling no different than CoD, take cover, kill an enemy, move on. D1, thanks to its ideas being more original, in my opinion aged better, but you are absolutely right about it looking pretty bad graphically nowadays. Also, "we play games to have fun" is just a MASSIVE generalization. it may be true for you, but there are plenty of games that i LOVE that just aren't fun. The Last of Us 1 comes to mind. its really not a fun game, but the narrative is so good, you probably won't ever notice how disappointingly boring it is as a stealth-shooter.
@@maineman5757 im all for the art style of Darkness 2, i just think that the game itself is both less interesting as a story and as a shooter. D1 to me will always be better because Starbreeze was _trying some stuff out_ and experimenting a little to make for a game that still has a very unique feel to it.
Sadly i dont think The Darkness is big enough of an IP. Unless they somehow get The Darkness in some kind of major movie or game,no one will really know it exists.
@@Vampshroom420 Top Cow - the creators of the original comic the games are based on - are going to be relaunching The Darkness in a new ongoing series. Maybe this will improve interest in the IP.
Remember enjoying this a lot as a kid because I considered it as sort of a spiritual sequel to Escape From Butcher Bay. With the subway station between missions and abundant downtime, both games had a similar flow. Great video Gman!
The series is pretty near and dear to my heart. I remember when rumors of a third game coming out were spreading and I nearly lost my shit waiting. I def want to see it get some more love.
DE knows how to make interesting combat when they try. had a blast playing through The Darkness 2 and even soloed the coop missions with the gunslinger lady (her darkness gun is satisfying af. the katana aint got shit on it)
I loved these games. I remember playing the first one, the scene where you first get your power and the ending were probably one of the most badass scenes of its time. Really hope they remaster it or at least do a third game.
I'm so glad you reviewed and enjoyed both games. I remember playing the second game when it came out, it was my first time hearing of the series. Then I played the first and read the comics. I definitely prefer the first game and love the soundtrack to death, but people shouldn't shit all over the second game. It's definitely great in it's own right.
When I think about it the only reason people didn't like Darkness 2 was the huge change in tone compared to the first. Combine the feel/atmosphere of the first game with the gameplay and power fantasy of the sequel would be ideal.
@@firetools oh yeah for sure and I can totally understand that, especially given that Mike Patton’s voice direction, in the first game was perfect. I don’t think a merger of the two would work too well. Since the first is more slow and atmospheric, really entrenching yourself in the moment. Whereas the second is a lot more fast pace. I think Mike Patton’s voice is a good example of where you can see that. But you never know, maybe you could strike a good balance somehow.
I really loved this game. that part of the game that involves a couch and a movie(dont want to spoil it for anyone) has stuck with me all these years later. truly an engrossing experience. because of this game, I started reading the comics and the darkness has become one of my favorite comicbook heroes ever.
I sat on that couch for a good 45 minutes my second playthrough. The peace and happiness of it just rooted me when I knew what would happen once I progressed.
Yeah, totally. I played and enjoyed both, but the first one just felt special and unique. It left an impression. Typical Starbreeze, like butcher bay, it just nails the look and feel of everything. Darkness 2 was fine, I guess, but ultimately pretty forgetable, in my eyes.
One of the most over looked and underestimated game series ever. Loved both games, especially II. Can only pray for III some day. Currently playing II on Steam for 100% all Achievements playthrough
I love Darkness 1, for me it is one of the best games I've ever played and I really want it to be ported to PC so it will not be forever stranded on consoles. I didn't like Darkness 2, art style, new voice actor for Jackie and different voice for darkling was disappointing to me-I hated it.
Darkness is a good game but just gotta say I love your reviews. They are such a treat, either in the morning before work or in the evening when its time to chill. Thanks man. You're doing excellent.
I really enjoyed these games back in the day. How i was able to finish the game on ps3 with its poor performance is beyond me. It's just disappointing that this series ended on a cliffhanger at the end of no.2. If 2k re-release these games remastered with the darkness 3 concluding the story then sign me up.
The Darkness is my favorite story game i think. I played it as a kid and i understood everything and was quite invested in it. Was one of the most magical experiences in my life
Id love a Remake or Reboot of the Darkness that improves somethings in the second game that continues the story but also can fill-in the backstory through like certain sections of the game.
I was just watching the trailer for 2 again recently. Loved 1's art style way better than 2, that gritty realism just worked so well. If they made a new one, I'd love to see 2's combat put into the realism of 1's graphics. It just made a huge difference for me. Glad people are still talking about the darkness, such a cool story.
I absolutely love The Darkness, the first game is an amazing masterpiece with so much content - but you're very correct in it not aging well at all. I was sooooo excited when a sequel was announced but the cliffhanger that was never resolved still haunts me today.
This is my favourite series. I love the games and comics, and they have some amazing Statues of the characters. The Darkness 1 is still one of my favourite games. I own both games on everything they came out on. I can't get enough of the series. I remember sitting there with Jenny watching the entirety of Mockingbird. And the game introduced me to multiple bands that I still listen to, like Frame GBG Man, I wish The Darkness 1 was on PC, and I'd also love some remasters or remakes of both the games.
I really loved the first one. Everything about it, I remember being disappointed when I got the 2nd one and seeing they changed what I loved about the first one.
I remember in the first game saving up all the pistols till the last moment, the storage for that was huge and you were basically emptying them for 30 minutes straight.
Notice the crazy detail in Darkness1 with the analogue trigger when pulling gun triggers (like revolvers). Made perfect use of gamepad triggers. Wished more games used this. Crazy immersive and the detail when pulling the trigger and seeing the gun cock move back accordingly. Haven't seen this used in any other game....shame :( Starbreeze back then was something else : bought some pretty groundbreaking : EFBB (normal maps before Doom3, and an awesome game btw), Enclave (was a real looker on the first Xbox) and Darkness (the attention to detail and cinematic experience).
One of the best game reviewers on RU-vid. Short, sweet, professional but still genuinely funny. Definitely nothing wrong with the more flowery game reviews but I enjoy your style.
I'm very pleased with myself that I noticed the "you're playing a third person shooter from a first person perspective" thing almost right from the start, just to hear you echo it later. Something about the ADS and the way Jackie seems to react to the environment around him looks like the game was MEANT to be a third person shooter.
I'll never forget how awestruck I was when I played the first game and it got to that scene where Jackie and his girlfriend are watching TV in his apartment and the TV actually shows real movies like to kill a mockingbird and I think there was some real life cartoons on there it was pretty cool you can literally sit there and watch a movie in full or the cartoons in full on the couch with both of them. Blew my mind at the time