Amish Funeral Of Bertha Kinsinger Zook Yoder Oakland,Maryland 

S Nafziger your name threw me off but when you said Petershiem that changed everything! Wow! Now you are making me curious you say the Oakland Maryland Church is no longer considered Old Order Amish? When did this all come about? I myself was raised Amish till turned nine years old when my folks joined the Amish Mennonite car church.

Simon Kinsinger My cousin L. Vaughn had replied earlier and her maiden name was Petersheim. She can answer the questions about the church. I was never a member there. I just have relatives that attend there :)

+S Nafziger I LOVE small world stories like this

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You don't know what are you saying. They don't have even a sign of cross on the grave. Don't admire those who are suspicious christians.

I Grew Up Around Mennonites They Are Very Nice People And Good Cooks.

They are

They do not have churches. They worship in each other's homes....and I highly doubt they would be very happy if some stranger showed up at their worship service uninvited.

kay jay You are partly right and mostly wrong the Amish are just like any other protestant group in that there are the STRICT AMISH, Moderate Amish and Conservative Amish. This group is both! But if you really want to know you should become a part of the Amish it would be an enlightenment for you!

Simon Kinsinger As a black woman, I highly doubt the Amish would be happy about me barging in on their group. Also, I do not believe in any gods.

kay jay The Amish I grew up with will except anyone who conforms to their strict dress code race is a none issue. I know you say you don't believe in Gods but there is only one living God and unless you gave yourself life you will go back to the God that created you! What's worse the bible states it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God! It would seem such a shame for that to happen to a nice person like you!

Amalgamaite​ Umm...look at my nose and lips. Those are black features...Lol! You have never met a black woman that looks like me...well then you have never met my mother, sister and grandmother. If this was 1860 in the South...I would still be a slave.

L Vaughn If I may ask who are your folks?

Simon Kinsinger My Grandfather John Yoder was married to Bertha. S Nafziger is my cousin. My maiden name is Petersheim.

L Vaughn wow it is a small world! You are aware John Yoder's 1st wife was my great Aunt Beverly and his second wife Bertha Kinsinger Zook Yoder was my father's oldest sister and also my aunt!

L Vaughn I was told at the funeral the new church building had to be built according to code and unlike the old building was not exempt

Simon Kinsinger Actually John N. Yoder's first wife was Barbara (Peight). Did you mean Barbara or Beverly? They were both originally from the Kishacoquillas Valley in PA. They were my grandparents.

Farmers don't need much more than that. Any one of those kids is free to go get more education if they feel they really want and need it. No one is forcing anyone to do anything..

And their kids know how to work and make their own way. Higher education doesn't seem to be paying off nowadays, exorbitantly expensive, no related job after graduation, mountain of student loan debt. I'll wager these Amish kids can read and do arithmetic in circles around the average HS grad, and earn a living in the process.

You do realize the Amish are self-sustaining, right? If we lost electrical power for 6 months, could you survive? The Amish would be perfectly fine. Also, almost every Amish home and farm I've seen are beautiful and kept up meticulously. I'm college educated and know I would NOT be fine through a 6 month electrical outage and my home is nowhere as nice as many of theirs. I think they're much more intelligent than most of us.

+julia hammond I'm sure they dont what you just described is called the Nebraska Amish.Most people are unaware there are also Amish Mennonites who drive cars. I know to the outsider it seems all very confusing.What you have to understand Amish is a Culture not a Religion.

+Simon Kinsinger (Mountain Reigns) It is described as the new "Old Order Amish Church" near Oakland Maryland. Nowher was it described as being Mennonite -- I am aware of the difference. Old Order Amish have services in their homes. I too am surprised by this, as Old Order Amish do not have churches, and would certainly never have allowed a camera at any services of any kind -- very puzzling. I also don't think Old Order Amish sing these kinds of hymns at their services.

+Pam Hannam I question your statement why are you so sure Old order Amish do not have churches? My father grew up Old Order Amish in Somerset County Pa.they met in a church building. my mother on the other hand grew up Old Order Amish in Belleville,Pa. they had services in their houses and barns. I grew up amish till I was eight years old in Stuarts Draft,Va. So by what authority,are you speaking from? Is it from a book you read your own experiences or something you heard someone else say?

Simon, sir ... I have a question. Are you aware that many Amish are leaving the communities because they believe they only need to place their faith in Christ and need only the scriptures to guide their lives by? They believe the elders that control things are unnecessary because Jesus guides people's lives with the His Word and the Holy Spirit. If they have a Pastor and church to worship in, why would they be shunned for leaving? How say you about this?

I don't claim any authority on these matters. I am fortunate to know a number of Amish families, some of whom have shared Amish history with me. I am aware that of the Old Order Amish who had broken with those in Lancaster County, many ultimately became part of an Old Order in Somerset County which broke off further between the traditional old Amish and the Beachy Amish. I didn't think of Beachy as Old Order -- a progressive old order, I guess -- but perhaps they are considered old order.. One of the distinguishing features of the Beachy Amish in Somerset County was holding church services in a church building rather than in homes. I see that you come from the Somerset County so I'm assuming you may have grown up in the progressive Beachy Amish culture. Of course, now there are Beachy Amish worldwide, with congregations that meet in church buildings. Additionally, I know that some Old Order groups started meeting in church buildings as early as the 19th century, but some members of those groups separated and reverted back to meeting in homes. To my knowledge, none of them, however, would have looked kindly upon being photographed. However, I learned most of my history from my Amish friends, all of whom are Lancaster County Old Order. Later, I read books on the same subject -- but I don't claim authoritative or comprehensive knowledge on any of these subjects. I just had not personally known any Old Order Amish who worshipped in church buildings.

Things are changing. For the longest time I wanted to know about this secret group; what they believe, and I do admire living off the land, and work does keep people from getting into trouble. I sometimes go to Amish stores and the older ones are very friendly but the teenagers hardly want to talk at all.

It is her own family. Read the description.

I wondered the same thing.

+Laura Minnick Welcome to the club that describes me so amish I could not speak English! Now I'm so English its difficult to speak Pa Dutch

Andy C Did you read the video credits and why it was made?

Simon you didn't have to be an ass about it. all it said in the discription was it was filmed at a funeral nothing about the singing or how the service normally are for the amish. guess i'll have to look it up on google since you were that much of a help.

Andy C Im not being an ASS about it! There is nothing to say ITS A FUNERAL this is NOT A SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE what part cant you understand???? The movie is scripted as it plays did you even watch it?

Andy C I don't understand why its such a HUGE deal to you? Are you planning to join the Amish if so then do so it might be a good experience for you! I was Amish until I was eight years old and I really don't care to go back!

Andy C I get so FED UP with ignorant RU-vidrs like that guy I just deleted!

+Ted Jackson Its a song found in the Christian Hymnal and Church Hymnal called "City Of light"

Mr. Kinsinger, thank you for your help. Although, I was looking for the song that started at 9:05.

Funereals of Amish are usually at home ,same as their church services ,weddings or even the birth of a baby.

Anthony Parsons You mean Levi the Amish Bully? That movie series so distorts who the Amish really are and NO WAY represents the Amish I grew up out of!

Simon Kinsinger​ I know that show is bull. I grew up near the Amish In Ohio I was just making a joke of,that stupid show

+Simon Kinsinger (Mountain Reigns) just curious do you know Levi or ever see him?

Viewing the body.

Charles M thanks :-)

I heard there are some black Amish, but they're mostly adopted into households. For Mennonites, however, some families have mixed children (black and white).

+Rebecca Meister I can only talk from my own experience but as an Amish Youth growing up for Sunday evening Hymn Sings we would sing from the German songbooks for the first half and then switch to the English Hymn Books for the last half, Church & Sunday School Hymnal, Church Hymnal, Christian Hymnal, and the Christian Hymnary which was used a lot more in later years because it had over 1000 hymns to select from and covered both German and English songs and hymns.

Is there a significance to singing the same songs from one language to another? Why not just English, or just German? Wouldn't it be most important the songs are sung from the heart, rather than being concerned with language? Or am i missing something?

Having lived near Amish growing up, those that I have encountered did not generally speak English until they were older. All the children I met all spoke the low German. Does it change from community to community?

Many of these relatives in the video are mine. They are a more progressive church in Oakland. From what I would understand is that singing in German is to still hold on to traditions that have been passed down for centuries.

Loriwood Show Yes that was my late Amish Aunts funeral.

I thought the same if it's regarding the planks of wood.

Anthony Parsons Its called building code!

+Simon Kinsinger (Mountain Reigns) Building code has nothing to do with it. No codes require electric.

+junk But they do require lighted safety exits

Not in unlighted buildings.

I don't get your point

They don't want photos of their faces,. although some tolerate English people taking photos of their faces,. since that photo would not be the property of the Amish person. When the English possess the photo, then the English is violating the commandment prohibition of graven images.

It is not a cult,it is a conservative Protestant Christian denomination that believes in the Anabaptist precepts.

Yep you are right that's why I will delete you and your comment!