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@@embond007 i don't think she can. Tbh Fern is a liiiiitle bit overhyped. She is very strong, but not THE strongest human mage in this show. I think she can visualize she's supressing it.
@@embond007 She can’t see how big it is but rather she can see the fluctuations meaning she probably knows Serie is either hiding her true mana or altering it
But the problem is how that old mage measured frieren mana ? Sure he recognized that she is suppressing it but unless frieren releases it there is no way to find how powerful she is, i believe serie is more powerful but not to that extent tbh
Now explaining her "disappointment" comments (both to Frieren and to her human students). First people need to understand this: Serie ADORES POTENTIAL. If she sees potential in anyone, she IS GONNA want to see this potential reach their limits. Ok now here we go: 1) Frieren: the reason why Serie really is petty with Frieren is bc she thinks Frieren is a wasted potential. Frieren literally spent CENTURIES supressing her mana walking in the forest, doing....nothing basically, while the humans were evolving. In Serie's mind, magic is to be used in wars, to fight. In Flamme and Frieren's minds, magic can also be used to bring happiness and beauty to the world (the flower field for example). So for Serie, Frieren is like a genius child that is playing with toys, while they could be doing so much more. 2) Her human students. First i need to clarify: Serie loves each of her students. She is just capping when she is harsh. So, the reason Serie keeps calling them a "disappointment" (and part of the reason she didn't want humans to learn magic) is bc it's also a wasted potential. In what sense, you ask? Well, this is related to their lifetime. In Sense's mind (and she is not wrong in this one) humans CAN NEVER reach their true potential, bc they die too soon. But even so she STILL takes human mages as her students. It's like if you want a 95 years old person to become the greatest professional in their area, for example....you simply have no expectations this person will even reach great achievements. That's why she only takes TRUE talented people as her students. And i do think most people overlooked this: dude, Serie just said Lernen could possibly win against Frieren, like.....that's what i meant when i said she takes really talented people to teach. Also, for people complaining why she failed so many people: if she had passed all of them, she'd basically sending them to their death. They would be allowed in places only first-class mages could reach, and then, if they didn't have enough skills, they could die. So in the end she's doing what she thinks it's right.
Agree with almost everything you said except the last part. She didn’t pass them because they are not talented enough not because she cared about them. She didn’t know them enough to care. If she really cared she wouldn’t allow the first test to happen with alot of people dying there, she is not a bad person but she definitely is that kind lol
Lernen could potentially win against Frieren. His golems are annoying to deal with, and Frieren struggles with multiple opponents. Lernen is easily a match for any Greater Demon in terms of magic control/knowledge. That said.... I doubt he could actually beat her. While gifted enaugh to do so... Lernen isn't really a match for a serious Frieren, but she would never take him seriously since she would see right through him. Serie was purposely egging him on.
@@brunomarques7713 idk about lernen not being a match for a serious frieren. Serie literally says he may be able to win a fight against her, I'm sure she was taking into account "serious frieren" when she made that comment. Could he win? We will never know because that fight didn't end up happening, but frieren has said that she lost to 11 mages in the past with less mana than her, 6 of these mages were humans.. if there's a human mage of this era who could currently beat Frieren, that would be Lernen, the strongest of Serie's apprentices.
I believe she only implied Lernen could possibly beat Frieren if he lived longer and reached his true potential, which he'll never be able to do as a human.
For context Serie called Frieren talentless in relation to her age because Serie expects more for someone has lived more than a thousand years. (This is also why Frieren said that she isn't the mage Serie wishes her to be) Serie's capabilities are also way beyond what Frieren can do. Lernen, the old 1st-class mage was able to detect Frieren's real mana, compared it to Serie saying it's almost as big but what he fails to realize is that the mana Serie is projecting is also suppressed. This means that Frieren's full mana is only as big compared to Serie's suppressed mana. So yeah this granny Serie is op af
But the problem is how that old mage measured frieren mana ? Sure he recognized that she is suppressing it but unless frieren releases it there is no way to find how powerful she is, i believe serie is more powerful but not to that extent tbh
Well, Serie is having her mana suppressed and Lernen though that hers is equal to Frieren. *comparing the size of the room=Aura battlefield. Granny Serie is OP. Flamme hinted at it regarding the Demon King, also there is another in season 2
@@nightcoremag1662 Nah, Kraft isn't that old. If he was, he wouldn't have to have faith to believe in the goddess. He would know for fact she was real because she was still around mortals during that time.
I love how Serie is practically an overdemanding "grandmother" completely disappointed that her "granddaughter" has spent most of her life wasting her talents by learning "useless" things. She literally sees her as a hippie lol
The reason i love Serie is bc how cap she is LMAO First of all, i love Serie's pettiness🤣. But anyway. Serie is a big tsundere. Let's analyze this calmly: *she said she trained Flamme on whim, but still went on a walk with Frieren just remembering Flamme *she said she wouldn't carry Flamme's will, but she LITERALLY created the magic association *she says it was a waste of time repressing her mana, but she still do it anyway *she said she doesn't like to take human students, but she still remembers every single one of them (Flamme, Sense, Lernen) and even how each of them behave *she calls the flower field spell "useless" while in a room full of flowers (cause she obviously liked Flamme)
If you didnt notice, Serie indeed has the same VA with Killua and also with Juiz from Undead Unluck. And yes the original Voice actor is a female in real life, the name is Mariya ise
Fern is actually so talented. Since she was a little girl. Her mama control has always been insane. And she could notice something a first class mage couldn’t notice in over 50 years. She’s a prodigy
This second half has been such an impressive run, gonna miss it come the finale next week. This anime truly has earned every ounce of praise its gotten
I'm honestly wondering what serie will think of denken and ubel. Don't have my hopes up that they will pass but I wonder if they will be at least recognized in some way.
Paraphrased - "If this wasn't a test, I would have broken my bottle already." Denken wants that certification, is smart enough to know he's outmatched, and brave enough to fight for it anyway. Ubel's thoughts when fighting her copy make me think she's not afraid to die, so seeing Serie's mana won't frighten her away. I'd say those two (and everyone else we haven't seen yet) have a decent chance.
I assume that most if not all of the others will pass. Given how they structured the episode by having Serie fail half of the test takers in a 5 second sequence before failing Frieren and maximizing the dramatic effect of Fern passing, and given the specific mages left for Serie to judge, IMO it would make sense. Genau already told Sense that he expects Denken to pass, Methode is a solid mage all around and could fend off Fern's replica, and I fully expect Serie to just LOVE Ubel and Wirbel because they're warrior mages. The only one I'm not so sure about is Land, but he's got the same kind of robotic personality as most of the First Class Mages we've seen during the test so who knows and maybe Serie will think he's got what it takes. I mean, I think it's fair to say that all the remaining test takers are not only powerful but also have been portrayed as sure of themselves and their power, unlike the lot Serie failed.
Serie is like a mother tough to deal with it but in the end, She love her daughter. Small funfact about german pronunciation, every letter has to spoken out. There is only very few exceptions.
It's so much more complicated than that. It's more of Serei can't stand that Frieren's philosophy on the world and magic is right and she knows it. But even that explanation doesn't do their relationship justice. They are literary foils of one another.
Serie's problem with Frieren is that she's weak for her age and doesn't want to reach the heights she can reach. (I don't understand why she needs to do that when the greatest danger is gone and a peaceful era has arrived, Serie probably wants an untouchable overpowered elf friend with whom she can hate flowers together).
People hate to see wasted potential. I'm sure you would as well, especially if you are really proficient at something. Now imagine being the most proficient at magic of all time and also being essentially immortal. She must absolutely hate what Frieren is doing, however unlike a human she has time to turn it around if she wanted to.
@@Raprap17171 that’s next season. What has she been doing the last 1000 years since she last saw Frieren ? Frieren has done more fighting than her. Killed the demon king, killed Qual, killed Aura and then other small fry.
frieren reminds me of older anime like inuyasha . anime back then it was traveling, about a actual journey. especially capturing the fantasy aspect nowadays when isekai/ fantasy is popular, and the animation is maintaining its quality. people are looking for that consistency with animation after jujutsu kaisen and wano arc of one piece. Frieren was necessary for anime it is definitely keeping the bar high while other mid anime will be pushed out amongst the anticipated ones coming spring. I hope fern becomes a great mage and get the titles and accolades like Frieren has. and they move on with their journey. that only means stronger enemies and attention from some oppositions
Besides Frieren already knowing that Serie was not going to pass her, it makes sense because Frieren is beyond the title of First Class Mage--which was a system that was technically designed for humans (correct me if I'm wrong int hat assumption). To me, Serie holds Frieren to a different and even higher standards because of that innate infinite potential that she knows Frieren can deliver, but chooses not to, which is fine because is her choice on how she wants to live her life. Another great reaction and I cannot wait for the next season, already! Take care y'all and thank you! 🙏🏻
I think first class mage to Serie is basically someone who is a battlemage, someone who uses magic FOR fighting. Frieren is a mage who doesn't exist for fighting and so will always disappoint Serie.
Fern is GOATED prodigy ao wholesome when she declared that frieren is her teacher and when she tucked her in after ahe went out of the way to fix her broken staff
Manga question so someone pls answer As of now there are still 3 chapters left how will they adapt it? Make the episode longer or skip certain parts cuz that would suck
Nah, the pacing would probably be the same. This episode covers chapters 56, 57, and some parts of chap 58. The next episode would cover parts of chap 58, chap 59, and 60.
There's only one thing I'm afraid of, you can see when the ending song starts, where Frieren is sleeping next to the grave and at the end of the ending we see Frieren sleeping on Fern's lap in the same pose. We know that Frieren is an elf who is almost immortal and Fern is only human and can age easily. fast, even when with himmel frieren he didn't realize at all that human time is very fast... is the ending a fern grave?
i hope it really happen it the anime would be great story great scene people reaction would be so great and the last scene in ed it was like fern reincarnated to meet frieren again... that would be great to for the anime if it really happened
behind all of those exam in this episode feel so... sad.... himmel first love are Frieren, he give hint to frieren how he fell and he waiting till the end for return of love from Frieren. Also how happy for last adventure with frieren to see the shoting star hope the answer from frieren till he close his eyes 🥲😭😭😭😭😭
I like the settle between the lines information ... Lernen says Frierens Mana is equal to Series, and Serie turns to another first class mage and asks: "Falsch, did you notice?" Well Falsch is German for wrong. And later on we learn that Serie is surpressing her mana too, but Lernen never found out. So Lernen was indeed wrong ;).
I can't imagine how big Serie's full mana is, so there's no way for me to perceive her fluctuations. I couldn't stand a chance to Fern if I was in the magical world.
Not sure just speculation on my end but Himmel prob disliked magic before meeting Frieren since we can assume his family might have been killed by demons.
Based on context clues serie has full confidence that if lernen wanted to beat frieren in a fight he most likely would especially when you consider the fact that like flamme he was also a student of serie the problem is because he’s to humble among other things he can’t visualize himself fighting frieren and winning and sense in this world visualization is key for a mage’s desire to become reality he won’t be able to even if he tried
Do you remember bottled golems from 2nd exam? When Sense was distributing those, she said those golems were crafted by Lernen. Those golems could break walls Denken couldnt, can block Sense's attacks, can heal etc. There were like 18 test takers so he made that many golems that capable for the test and he wasnt even controlling them. That alone should show how much of a monster he is.
Yep thats what Lernen failed to see, lernen saw the fluctuation in Frieren's mana(which is crazy in its own right) and straight up assumed that her mana was equal to Serie. He failed to see fluctuations in serie's mana though, who is also suppressing. It doesn't just automatically mean that Frieren's full mana = serie's suppressed mana. Because lernen hasn't yet seen Freiren's full mana, he is only speculating that her unsupressed mana would be equal to what he is able to perceive in Serie(aka her suppressed mana). And while his deduction might be correct, there is a small chance that Freiren has more mana than he calculated. Offcourse it would still be wayyyyyyy less than what Serie has if she decides to unleash her full power, but it "might" be more than suppressed Serie. But yea, its still crazy lol
Minor minor spoiler Its kinda hinted but it will be made clear later on that ferns mana detection is actually greater then frierens thats why i dont think frieren can see it
@@koushiksarkar4226 spoiler She more then likely can't see it. First of all mages know when other mages can see their fluctiation as seen frieren when lernen saw her frieren knew that same with how serie sensed that fern could see it. Fern sensing ability is also greater then frierens stated in the arc when solitair started to analyse a barier frieren herself didn't sense anything but believed fern anyways so from what we know no frieren prob can't
No she didnt, stop assuming if it wasnt implied, yeah frieren is stronger than fern but when it becomes to innate talent, fern is out of her league, frieren ca not be able to see serie instability, even lernen is more talented than frieren but that compensate with her long liifespan, even frieren couldnt percieve flamme caliber instability and serie is doing it at the past practically atleast 10,000 years and shes litterally is the most skillfull mage ever existed but thats not to underestimate frieren, serie is just so good at supressing mana, that only fern was able to see it ever possibly
@@richcalaguan8307 Lol, Frieren sees the mana instability in Serie. Why else would Serie pass Fern when she didn't even see anything outstanding about her? It's because Frieren knew Serie is supressing her mana and that Fern will be able to see it that's why she's confident she will pass.
It's like a master setting up an exclusive scholarship that's reserved for hard studying elite students to go to good universities, only to have this old student that somehow already got into and graduated from a top university to apply. The master asked, "I know you, you're not the study type, and you already went to college. Not sure why you're here. But I'll give you one last chance: are you going to study hard now" The student said "who cares about study. Not my favorite thing to do. YOLO". The master said, "Truly useless. You fail." The student said, "shrug. Who gives a monkey's ass about your lame scholarship in the first place." The master said "I still cannot believe some lazy student like you somehow got into Harvard." The student said "heh I had friends help. Friends? You know what that means?" You think she will get that scholarship? You think she should get that scholarship? No.
Theory#8769 this whole episode is about how Serie misses Flamme. You fail=your not Flamme. Your a disappointment because you had talent but your not Flamme. Your Flamme's student but your nothing like Flamme. Regret. The main theme of this anime.
This episode really got me thinking because we have known about suppressing mana and what that entails but I wonder if for Serie it is the opposite, what if she is expanding her mana to make it seem like she has more than what she actually has, it would probably fluctuate due to mana being spread over an area greater than it's limit but then what if you were to do that for hundreds or thousands of years, it'd become natural just like suppressing. It's a crazy theory and probably not true, logically it'd make more sense if she were suppressing her mana and I wouldn't be surprised if Serie was the one to teach Flamme to suppress her mana but hey, sometimes crazy theories turn out to be true :D
Actually yes she close on being goddess of the series her magic and mana is enough for demon king, unfortunately she is a madara of this series she loves fighting and she don't want a peace sh*t.
@@kams5345 if she loves fighting she would have fought demons and demon king. But she stays inside a library for years and years…imagine Goku just staying home and saying he’s the best fighter
@@Oakland510 Imagine Goku just fight with toddlers and saying he's the best fighter. Who even in this series would give Serie a good fight ? No one, it's too easy for her to beat other mages.
serie judge frieren abilities relative to a elf that has been training 1000+ years and she is below average in comparison, thats why she failed. it wouldnt make sense to judge a long life being abilities to a short lived standard
I see it that Serie is disappointed at her students lifespan. To see Lernen be reaching, if not be similar to the demon king in detecting mana, only to realize that Lernen only has a few years left, it'd be truly disappointing. Imagine how many great students she has had to see die before her, maybe she wasn't so cynical at first, but over time, she developed misanthropy as a coping mechanism. I mean, she lies almost all the time, not understanding Flamme even though she tells Frieren what Flamme's dream was all the while remembering her very vividly. Saying that suppressing Mana is a waste of time even though she does it herself, she's probably the one who taught Flamme the technique. She shielded Sense from all responsibility by blaming Frieren Even apologized to Lernen for taking over his test The only person she most likely is truly disappointed to is Frieren. For 1000 years Frieren stayed in the cabin in the woods, doing almost nothing. She's only been active for 80 years, she only started collecting spells when Himmel complimented her spells. Serie is like the grandma with a 50 year old grandchild who did almost nothing in life and is just starting to open up a shop. Of course it's Frieren's life, she can live however she wants, but Serie doesn't have to be happy about it.
Yeah frieren is stronger than fern but when it becomes to innate talent, fern is out of her league, frieren ca not be able to see serie instability, even lernen is more talented than frieren but that compensate with her long liifespan, even frieren couldnt percieve flamme caliber instability and serie is doing it at the past practically atleast 10,000 years and shes litterally is the most skillfull mage ever existed but thats not to underestimate frieren, serie is just so good at supressing mana, that only fern was able to see it ever possibly
