An Overview of Switzerland's M70 & M83 Uniforms and Their Red Camouflage Pattern

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Another supplemental video in which we go into some of the finer details of Switzerland's M70 and M83 uniforms such as their many, many pockets.
Link to The History of video: • Switzerland's Red Camo...
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@VictorGarciaR 3 года назад

Joke´s on you, I am colorblind. Looks fairly brown to me!

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 3 года назад

Allegedly carbonate is less effective against colourblind people.

@9965paul 3 года назад

Bullshit how do you know what brown is?

@VictorGarciaR 3 года назад

@@9965paul Easy, its the color of the sky!

@syhaidar7489 3 года назад

Holy hell hahahah

@cortex8239 3 года назад

@@9965paul Always the anime profiles and nazi lovers.

@Getn35 3 года назад

„How many pockets and swivels do you- ?“ „Yes“

@ulrichkalber9039 3 года назад

yes indeed

@gregandy4277 3 года назад

All the things...!

@shadowwolf7622 3 года назад

I'd always laughed at this red camo-until my son acquired a couple sets of this. Unbelievably, this camo works great ! Better than a lot of other patterns. It is great for wooded areas- all seasons.

@sinisterthoughts2896 3 года назад

Agreed. I was skeptical until I got a set, it's fantastic in deciduous forests. This pattern does not deserve its reputation.

@Nuke-China 3 года назад

The human eye does a really bad job of discerning red when intermixed into camouflage. It tends to take on the look of the surroundings instead of appearing as red to your eye -- it's really weird.

@T_D_B_ 2 года назад

It's almost like red is a primary color that makes up many other colors found in nature... hmmm...

@tatitakk4187 2 года назад

@@sinisterthoughts2896 5 y 55

@tatitakk4187 2 года назад

@@sinisterthoughts2896 5 y 55

@alexfish477 3 года назад

The all in one concept in the first uniform pattern seems like a good idea for a reserve based army like Switzerland's. Less kit to issue, you don't have to worry about people not bring everything to drills, and in the event of rapid mobilization all you have to do is put on your uniform. On the downside I'm sure it was uncomfortable and inflexible. It was probably a better idea to issue out a standalone kit and hope the reservist don't lose it.

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

It's not like that today the entering service uniform is the camouflaged Taz 90 Back in years, we entering service /war mobilization in tenue B Woolen all Green coat, pant of same pattern fabric. We distributed the corps material only when men are in their mobilization places. It was, camouflaged clothes with helmet cover, sleeping bag, foam mattress, exercise/or sealed combat gas mask filter. Leather protective cover for shoes.

@cammobunker 3 года назад

These used to be dirt cheap and the amount of variation among the individual pieces was amazing. I've been to the old SwissLink warehouse in Paradise Caifornia and they had thousands of these sets. You'd pick five jackets and they were all different in some way- modified, padding added here or there, sleeves and pant legs shortened, waists taken in, you name it. Many would have padding in the bottom of the big pockets in the back of the jacket made from wild fabrics obviously added by wives or girlfriends. The really nice part of the Swiss stuff is A) the camo works better than you might think, and B) if you're a bigger guy, you can find it in your size since the Swiss serve till their 40s so they come in "grown up man" sizes (instead of 18 year old kid size). Also, pockets!

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

No girls or wifes have made modifications as they were corps materials only distributed when entering in service. It still in arsenals until men were mobilized

@rogerjensen5277 Месяц назад

Personally, I love all the big pockets on the M70 jacket The fabric is heavy duty though I have removed the arms and the large back pocket to make them lighter and cooler unless using it for winter gear! The backpack works well with the side pockets large enough to carry two-quart soda bottles! The M70 pants are pretty baggie but they work well as cold weather over pants! I got lucky and bought a bunch for $5 per jacket and $1 per backpack. I wear glasses so I really like the attached hood with the face cover though i find that I need to wear a ball cap to keep the 'generous' hood out of my face when not using the face cover! If I need to carry more gear, I just add a shoulder bag which the rank strap keeps in place!

@Panzerfan93 3 года назад

the pattern is still being used on tent tarps, which are still in service. so the swiss army hasn't completly phased it out

@Berkut-0001 3 года назад

Since 2016 the army yeet the tarps out of service, so i heard xD

@LeonardoFSI 3 года назад

@@Berkut-0001 I did my RS in 2017 and last WK just in january, definetely still used and not being thrown away, the even older angled pattern are also still used.

@Berkut-0001 3 года назад

@@LeonardoFSI yea this would be a step by step progress, thats also the reason why they never produced "taz90" woodland patterns tarp and still use the old ones.

@LeonardoFSI 3 года назад

@@Berkut-0001 maybe with the new one they will, I doubt tho, even if not for tent, they are very useful for mundane things anyway.

@Berkut-0001 3 года назад

@@LeonardoFSI yea sure, the army will use them till they ripp off and then throw them away, and probably some go to the liquidations, btw i was in the RS 2010 and we used them as tarp, under blanket oder blanket for cleaning stuff on it.... Probarbly they would use it for this may longer, but it means they probably never would get new ones.. In 90 camo oder the newer MBAS multicamish camo.

@wyatttyson7737 3 года назад

I own a M83 jacket and wear it as my moderate weather jacket. I had genuinely no idea that Supreme sold them, but I do get lots of complements on it!

@violetraven9440 Год назад

If I can find one I’d definitely grab it asap if it’s in good enough shape my bdu is getting really faded now plus if I can find the m70 I’ll be able to carry everything in the jacket which would be nice since I like to hike

@jesseb8927 3 года назад

Holy shit, it’s basically like they put everything they could possibly think of on the uniform.

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

It was fitting the militia doctrine to have citizens ready for war in 24/48h. Occupying the land we need to have capability to stay there for a week or two in an autonomous formations.

@danscott8899 3 года назад

I was issued this uniform in the Canadian army when I was in an enemy force role in 2006. We spent a 7 days doing ambushes in the mountains near Kamloops. I loved the pockets and I lived out of that shirt. Food, water, magazines, everything!

@cs-rj8ru 3 года назад

in 2006 wearing alpenflage, I have to ask, who were you mimicking? US Militias?

@eanschaan9392 2 года назад

They tend to just kinda use whatever random uniforms they can source cheaply for those types of drills. It isn't really to imitate a specific foe, it is just to look different.

@Gurfi28 Год назад

@@eanschaan9392 yeah in the Swiss army we use desert DPM for Opfor units to this day.

@thelostcosmonaut5555 Год назад

The US uses tiger stripe camo for opfor.

@chiphailstone589 Год назад

Ive used the Swiss Alpenflauge as a Hunter here in the Arctic, and I assure you, the dull red of the camo is VERY effective, as green summer is breif. A Red Fox can blend in quite well.....

@robertl6196 3 года назад

This would be great hunting in the oak scrub forests around here in the fall, when the leaves have faded to a reddish-brown.

@sinisterthoughts2896 3 года назад

I have experience with it in that kind of environment, and it works very well.

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 3 года назад

Eastern United States deciduous forests in the fall. Especially from a treestand.

@jarink1 3 года назад

Seeing all those buttons and clips makes me wonder how often soldiers got snagged on camo netting. (BDU cuff and waistband tab buttons were snag magnets)

@thedoctor755 2 года назад

Good run-through! I used to have a set back in the 90's myself, I think I bought a whole set with backpack and helmet cover from US Cavalry for something like $25. But I'm surprised you didn't discuss the origin of the camo pattern: the 3rd Reich. In 1945, Germany was going to issue a universal fatigue uniform designed to be worn over the wools (to replace the Heer's Splinter & the Waffen-SS patterns), in a pattern with colors very close to this... and I'm sure the Swiss saw this later and ran with it. "Leibermuster" is the name of the original German pattern, at least in collector circles.

@Panzerfan93 3 года назад

9:26 these were actually used to pull up the pants directly via loops on the pants. at least some of the older TAZ90 jackets still had that system. it puzzeled us during the service until someone told us. although newer version don't have the loops anymore

@Gurfi28 3 года назад

As far as I know only the Tenue B didn‘t have the loops. Every Tenue C I ever had had them.

@Panzerfan93 3 года назад

@@Gurfi28 my Tenue B didn't have them aswell. But they are usually newer production uniforms

@thomashendriks6798 3 года назад

Very cool how modular and ahead of their time these uniforms were. Great video

@rc59191 2 года назад

Swiss don't get enough credit they're ahead of the curve when it comes to field gear.

@sinisterthoughts2896 3 года назад

In my experience the pattern is quite exceptional in fall conditions in deciduous forests.

@user-el2ct6xl9h Год назад

I'm swiss and did my Army time in the 90is so I used the Taz90. I remember my Dad's Army time when I was a kid when he used the "4 Frucht Pajama"... It's indeed a swiss Army knife version of a uniform, heavy as well but comfortable and useful for that time of used gear. Greetz from Switzerland

@FIREBRAND38 3 года назад

That inventory of the intended purpose of all the pockets and fasteners makes this one of the best uniform videos I've ever seen. Great job!

@T_D_B_ 2 года назад

It had always baffled me how much this camo is misunderstood. People never seem to consider colors at a basic level. Primary colors, contrast, optical mixing, etc... Red is a major component of brown, and orange. Two colors commonly found in woodland areas! Many don't realize ghillie suits made by professional snipers often include stands of red, purple, orange, and yellow material- in addition to the more obvious green and brown. There are many colors in nature of you look closely!

@biggybrown1259 3 года назад

I had gotten one of the jackets at a surplus shop and have been trying to ever since figure out where it came from, so big thanks!

@stevendurham9996 3 года назад

Alpenflage is my favorite of many cool camo patterns.

@TheArbiterSux 3 года назад

I have those pants and jacket, those pockets are amazing. Perfect fit for 6 30r rifle mags. I have 2 pairs of the pants, one with the suspenders, and one with the suspenders strap cut and sewn into belt loops. Great for going to the shooting range, and the whole getup is great for turkey hunting, especially with the waterproof materials.

@cjsh2441 3 года назад

Uniform History should do a video on the Czech Republic salamander camo.. The clown camouflage

@samuelbean9928 3 года назад

YES! yes they should.I have a jacket in that pattern and it is really something.

@cjsh2441 3 года назад

@@samuelbean9928 me too.. I have four myself in excellent condition.

@johnsteele2986 3 года назад

Me three, one of my favourites!

@miguelencanarias 2 года назад

Excuuuuuuse me, "the clown camouflage" is a trademark registered and used for the Belgian jigsaw pattern. Also registered: "the Ronald McDonald pattern".

@elismith4294 3 года назад

I remember watching your first video about this camo and uniforms with it and I bought some. I do not regret this at all and I was hoping you would make this video at some point! Now I know what my uniform’s many pockets/straps were for! Thanks!

@reformedalien6545 2 года назад

I've been collecting as much of this uniforms variants that I can, I wear the "light" pants almost daily while out on the town and have been familiarizing myself with the larger heavier uniform as of late. This video was very nice to watch, thank you for the information.

@PowermadNavigator 3 года назад

Hmmm... very interesting. One point, though. I would not underestimate this pattern. I have seen people do it and be surprised, haha. I have seen it work. And you can see it work on some videos on the internet.

@Swisswoods 3 года назад

Excellent video. Our Tarn has many jokes, but try spotting it in the alps or forests in anything but pure snow and its not so easy. The old ones knew what they were doing. greetings, atb.

@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879 2 года назад

I went to our local surplus store a couple years ago and found a helmet cover in this pattern...and I love it! when I play nerf wars with my son and his friends, I use it often and it's amazing for my area. There are always dry underbrush, dead trees or pine needles. the red fits in magnificently!

@Blink-184 3 года назад

Love the overview videos. A prefect companion to the uniform history! Can't wait to see more of these if you do them.

@ca9968 2 года назад

I remember seeing this uniform in a book I had as a kid about the worlds militaries, then in about 1994 or so it suddenly popped up all over Johannesburg, I bought a full set including the back pack from some strange little rave clothing shop in a strip mall in a small town I was working in...cost me less than a pair of SA Army Nutria Browns did from the Army & Navy surplus store I used to buy from...

@helveticarms 3 года назад

Really neat videos keep it up! Regarding the patterns poor reputation for effectiveness, I understand that the pattern was chosen because Swiss military strategists were convinced that if the soviets were to attack during the cold war, it would take place in the Fall, thus their reason for choosing an autumn pattern, this seems to be the same cold war tactical choice the Belgians made by using a purple/yellow dominant pattern in their jigsaw.

@heibk-2019 Год назад

If anyone is interested in these, Varusteleka has both the M83 and the M70 in stock right now, both for under 30 euros.

@akompsupport 3 года назад

Nice intro with the ACU delta pattern. Amazing find.

@joeb9275 3 года назад

I love my taz 57 shirt. I work at a gun/hunting store and it always sparks conversations

@landonedwards5301 3 года назад

I bought the top pants, and helmet cover and that's what I wear when occasionally play airsoft

@JimTimber 3 месяца назад

Superb review of top kit.. I love the camo pattern and use my jacket all the time

@onrr1726 3 года назад

I've got original shorts with Swiss military tags in them along with the later issue pants and jacket. From what I gathered the Swiss camo is popular among hunters in both Western Oklahoma and in varied parts of Texas.

@sinisterthoughts2896 3 года назад

It's fantastic in Eastern Oklahoma as well. The reds and browns blend very well with the fallen leaves in the forest.

@roverboat2503 2 года назад

I can imagine that when that uniform gets wet, it must be bloody uncomfortable. Especially when fully loaded. Nothing can be adjusted. Having been in the British Army when we used 58 pattern webbing, there were infinite ways that it could be worn 'wrongly' yet far more comfortably. Bum roll was never clipped to where it was meant to be, but rather above the kidney pouches. People sometimes had two sets of kidney pouches. The ammo pouches I used to clip so they sloped backwards, thus making running and lying down more comfortable. The backpacks used to be left in barracks and we bought our own Bergens. But this Swiss stuff - I can see how you could easily stab yourself with magazines or grenades when lying down. And as for securing stuff so it doesn't rattle......!!!

@magnuskilian5310 2 года назад

Correction. On the jacket the three pockets at the back had the following functions. The right hand one was for the water bottle The middle one was for the mess tin and the left side one was Tor the gas mask,

@bigdongus4968 3 года назад

rokmc's wavepat camo might make a cool video! it's like a mix of your standard digital camo with tiger stripe. love the channel keep it up man

@ABCKorpi 3 года назад

The pattern is not at all useless. In swiss woods, beech trees are super abundant due to them being very popular for logging. Almost every square inch og ground is covered in dry beech leaves all year round and in those environements, the Alpenflage works absolutely magnificently.

@halberdholty3454 3 года назад

Would LOVE a video on the history of the British Desert DPM uniform/camo

@StevenTheAristolianNerd 3 года назад

US4CES series would be cool to see. It's used mostly by Mexico but I've heard of some contractor companies using it too. So would Atacs FG, AU, FGX, AUX, and the middle of the road one which it's name escapes me.

@hjorturerlend 3 года назад

@Stefjio 3 года назад

I really love these Clothes, so this Video is one of My favorites 👍 excellent!

@thecrazydinosauroid6939 Год назад

I just got the whole setup for 60 dollars at this surplus store in Maine. Epic Win

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 3 года назад

You should cover the god awful Canadian Army tactical vests, which somehow nearly 20 years after introduction, are still standard issue.

@tomdulski3729 3 года назад

WOW that jacket is amazing. I wish I had purchased a mint one n=back when I had the chance.

@BESTIAL-CRUCIFIER 2 месяца назад

This has become my favourite camouflage pattern of all time. I have the abundantly-pocketed jacket and two sets of tanker coveralls, all acquired in unissued condition. They are amazing and I will definitely buy more. Sad to see fashion companies marking them up and reselling because the world needs more of affordable, good quality clothes like so often found in old milsurp. I would actually be more embarrassed if someone though I was wearing a "Supreme" or whatever version as opposed to just plain surplus material. The funny drawback of the tank coveralls, despite being otherwise well designed and made, is that they aren't fire retardant.

@TheComplexCurve 3 года назад

Another great video!

@bellakaldera3305 9 месяцев назад

Alpenflage is perfect for New England in the fall, when the leaves turn red. I have the field jacket with the knapsack, the light jacket and the tanker coverall, (which I particularly like for bowhunting.)

@SafetyProMalta 3 года назад

you could smash your carry on baggage allowance on spirit with this jacket

@Veritas419 3 года назад

Had both jackets years ago. I remember spending a hour or two taking off the top pockets, buckles, and beat up clear water resistant material on a M70 jacket.

@williamschmidt4229 Год назад

I have the whole uniform the early model and I find it is well thought out and is quite effective in Pennsylvania in the fall and even for our brown out period Dec to march

@spmike_manni 3 месяца назад

Those tabs on the jacket (at least for the 83 ones) are not for a belt. As far as i am aware, at least we have been told so in the army, you shoved the jacket into the pants and hooked those tavs through the metal loops on the pants you mentiones for suspenders. The current uniform sometimes has them aswell (depending how old the one you get issued is)

@TheGrenadier97 10 месяцев назад

3:44 - there's a video of a soldier using that sleeve to carry the famous Swiss Army Knife.

@emmanuelmacias8029 3 года назад

Great and informative videos as always. Anyways.... can we have a video about Mexican uniforms?

@emperorhadrian6011 3 года назад

The first version is a work of art.

@nick-4631 2 года назад

This jacket probably weighs more than a fully loaded vest!

@FRBlitz117 Год назад

Ive been collecting rare camos for awhile now and making complete modernized kits from them (with matching custom printed plate carriers. I currently have a complete Rhodesian brushstroke kit, splinter (german ww2), dot 44, Flecktarn, jigsaw, M90, and recently TAZ83/M70. This uniform is by far the most bizarre but very appreciated and interesting uniform. Finding the camo wasn’t hard. Finding the correct sizes is another story. 😂

@robbabcock_ 3 года назад

My second favorite pattern behind Flecktarn!👍😁

@jacobkasson9580 3 года назад

Please do a U.S. Coast Guard uniform history!

@diegomedina4145 3 года назад

If you ever wanted to go into video game factions again. Battalion Wars is a great one to do. So many different camos and uniforms. This ones a bit old but it has its fans

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

The simple overall for tanks crews with no combat pockets have a strap sewing on back of the neck back for allow the other crews to lift the man outside of the armored vehicle in case of evacuation

@butterdogestarwars6709 2 года назад

I saw a modified Alpenflage coat that had had a tiny (so tiny I didn’t notice it when I first looked at it) design sewn on it being sold for $200 dollars once

@jpm6038 3 года назад

Though it is really interesting to see uniforms in such detail it would be really good to talk to people who used them in the feald especially whith such an unusual uniform

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

We looks very awful in these and it was not really practical and really heavy to wear all day long.

@gruberjens4354 3 года назад

My Dad had those old pants during the early 2000s for work in the garden... He had those till they fell apart. Just about 2 years ago :-D

@tb7771 3 года назад

I was astounded at how well I was able to blend in, in the fall in south eastern Ohio with this pattern.

@THEDUDESONSROCKs 3 года назад

Hope you will make a video about the Eagle Industries RRV. What inspired it/the reason for the name. And also a bit about the different clones of it, Blackhawk, LBT, Arktis etc, I dont mean chinese knockoffs. The RRV is really an iconic chestrig.

@rastenborg Месяц назад

There is a complete load plan for all those pockets online. If compared to a US uniform with field jacket and LBE it's not that much different. It was not the camouflage pattern but the weight of the material. Not exactly jungle. Yet Switzerland is higher altitude and temperature. A designed system.

@fraylem 3 года назад

I know it by the nickname Pizzatarn / pizza camo.

@stevekillgore9272 3 года назад

I love these.

@badbotchdown9845 2 года назад

The first thing we have done is to suppressing the plastic on tights aera this causing sweat and uncomfort in summer

@jojoojo8768 3 года назад

Love this camouflage

@Hobbes0331 Месяц назад

I am about to do a test of some M83 and the background brown color seems a lot lighter than the almost tan of the M70. I was wondering if that tan of the M70 was that bright from the start or was it fading that made it that color so if you know, give me a heads up! =) Great video, btw! Us camo bros got to stick together =)

@wtwarrior7698 3 года назад

Would a video on gorka suits evolutionand use be possible? Or/and the 6sh122 Russian camo?

@alexguymon7117 3 года назад

I got an M70 jacket a few months back for like 19$. Very high quality. Planning on collecting additional pieces.

@randomnwah4329 3 года назад

could y'all make a video on bulgarian uniforms? i have a dark grey overcoat but i dont know the history of it nor where to begin

@tankmother 3 года назад

Hi, great content! Please make a video about North Africa uniforms, specially Libya's camo designed for African Union. Thanks!

@donmak1614 3 года назад

I had one of those in my garage around year ago and I didn't knew anything about it. Sad I don't have it anymore

@1claytonic1 3 года назад

I have half of this uniform it's awsome lots of pockets and little details

@silvesby 3 года назад

0:13 nice little detail))

@lukasgruber1280 3 года назад

It looks inspired by the Leibermuster 45

@TheCarDemotic 2 года назад

Holy crap I need some now

@papa7930 3 года назад

You should do video on vietnam war tiger stripe patern

@MedicalTape_xX 3 года назад

Can you give any information about, or make a video on, russian use of MARPAT?

@hansxyz3799 Год назад

I use it for Deer Hunting in Germany, cheap and good Made stuff. Army Issued Quality i would say. Thx for the Video

@davidfleming6295 3 года назад

I love Uniform History but was disappointed by the exclusion of one of fashion's iconic pieces. Massimo Osti's Mille Miglia drew considerably from the M70. The CP Company classic incorporated the split left breast pocket as well as the two lower bellows pockets. If only the M70 had goggles and a watch window, it would be a football casuals classic.

@laurenz2426 3 года назад

Just as I bought one pair of pants today this video releases

@NomadShadow1 3 года назад

Cool

@alansmith19890 3 года назад

So when will you look at issued load carrying gear in the pattern?

@williamfordham8081 2 года назад

I've sourced many of these jackets and... sleeves are always strangely short! Would like to know if anyone else finds this problem?

@Buster_Piles 2 года назад

Yes! It's weird. I removed the back pockets from the jacket though as they tend to waggle around and I used the material from them to create extended cuffs for the sleeves. It worked well and was easy. The other thing I always find with these is the plastic waterproof panels degrade and are better cut off.

@williamfordham8081 2 года назад

@@Buster_Piles thats a great idea! Thanks mate 😃

@Buster_Piles 2 года назад

@@williamfordham8081 you're very welcome! You can also use the pocket "tops/uppers" as shoulder "epaulettes/pauldrons/covers" as they're kinda scallop shaped to drain away rain with a quick stitch. Just sew them onto the existing epaulettes. Apart from Greek Blue tigerstripe, Alpenflage is the camo that if I wear it on the street people (generally women) will ask about it and say its really cool. 👌 Oh, since you were nice enough to reply, as I mentioned in another comment, if you do want to "tone down" Alpenflage for the woods, you can overdye it by stewing it in a strong tea solution and it'll come out with a tan tone over the pattern. (Yeh, I've got a huge camo collection and years of doing this stuff, hope this is useful). 😊 Happy New Year!

@williamfordham8081 2 года назад

@@Buster_Piles Happy new year to you too 🍻🥳 And yeah women are genuinely very interested in the pattern, somthing a few fasion designers must have took note on as some big named designers have refurbed, and altered them, added patches and studs, and then selling them for ridiculous amounts of cash! I have to say that it's a super functional jacket, and I will definitely have a shot altering one as you suggest. I have the bag to go with it which has its oddities too.

@Buster_Piles 2 года назад

@@williamfordham8081 interesting you should mention that. I've seen the later light m83 blouse with a "supreme" patch on it selling for £500! I swear. They claim they make them to the same pattern with the same fabric but it looked identical to me and I'm good with detail. You can buy an unused Swiss surplus one for under £20 on ebay and a Chinese knock off supreme patch for a few quid. Yes, it's tempting. 🤣 French CCE F2 blouses became popular when Rihanna wore one but the worst I've seen was US woodland pattern parkas with some, quite honestly silly, appliques up and down the arms and back being worn by Kanye and they're worth thousands. Somebody with the inclination and a little time in their hands could make a killing. BTW, I hope you do have a look for Greek Blue tigerstripe, the blue is a stunning electric blue in real life, I got a brand new set from a Greek guy with contacts for only £40. I see sellers hoyking up the price for these all the time but they're super. With a fleece underneath it's a proper coat even in winter and birds love it. Camo is always cool, never goes out of fashion really.

@TheQuantumPotato 9 месяцев назад

That jacket sounds like an absolute nightmare! Everything would be flopping around all the time, you wouldn't be able to take your gear off to have a rest without taking your jacket off, you'd have to wear a jacket at all times even in hot weather, and you have crap hanging off every side of you. What an awful idea.

@JimTimber 3 месяца назад

They work well for carrying cans of beer from the local shop !! lol

@wheres_all_the_pie1991 3 года назад

you can get the later uniforms on hessen antique for a few bucks

@drpepper9082 2 года назад

I've had one of these for around 10+ years and I never never knew about the hood veil

@petergrahammer1493 2 года назад

No Country can challenge the Swiss in terms of self Defence. The whole Country is a Fortress

@leelanngriffee1155 Год назад

So I just bought some m83 Pants and I'm wondering if a m70 jacket would look sort of natural, or would you suggest just getting a m83 jacket? Please and thank you.