ANALYSIS of Sam Shankland's PREMOVE in Chess Olympiad 2022 

You can still laugh when you are shocked. Like when you finish 2nd in your school ( from the bottom ).

But Sam didn’t score ‘ugly runs’ here. He dropped a sitter ( easy catch) to let his team down

@@saig2007 eventually yes .. But he was talking before that 'brainfade' moment happened, if you know what I mean.

Sam was trying to flag him but unfortunately he trapped in it 🤣

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Unlike Sam

half a point away from being World Champion

Sam was trying to flag him but unfortunately he trapped in it 🤣

I watched it and was thinking sure this can happen if you got a few seconds left on the clock but he had minutes. He even had more time left than Robert 🤢

@logirex moving instantly was his way of saying to his opponent - ive got this all figured out... What was really weird was how peter svidler had descibed earlier how Topalov had premoved once against him - taking his own queen with his knight

Sam was trying to flag him but unfortunately he trapped in it 🤣

Who did he play in that World Cup game?

@@d0wnpour Anish Giri at Tata steel 2019. What made this particularly galling was that in the 2019 Batumi Olympisd Giri had publically stated that Shankland was clearly the weakest link in the USA team

Adrenal rush . So much had already gone emotionally throughout the game . He even survived from loss . That same thing happened with hikaru also in world cup last game . I am also a victim of this situation when demon plays the role

Tbh Sam is playing on board 4 and being a 2700 player, he should have dominated more considering he is getting the weakest opponents out of everyone.

@@kunalsingh4418 yea not a great performance

He drew a 2175 FM. Sam did not play better than Caruana.

Sam always looks nervous, even when relaxing on the beach

Sorry im just too lazy to follow up and visualize a 10 move sequence of notation

Thats not only a UK thing m8

Out - hit wicket🤪🤪

He is a very good player, stay fair.

Because since he touched the king he has to go Kc1 and then black plays Qb2 Qxb3 and is up a clean bishop

first of all how dare you

​@@coleclark6866 how dare to do what? Share an opinion in a RU-vid video? Don't worry, if you don't hurt the feelings of a protected group of people there is nothing to be afraid of.

@@simonlowrie5731 yes😂

@@JohnSmithEx what an unusual tangent to go on in the latter half of your comment.

There's 30s increment, all white has to do is shield his king from check. A few quick moves will gain him enough time to calculate that. But I think Sam resigned bc he was just so disgusted with himself

don't have to write down moves below 5 min

@@joshuarovinelli8597 Actually he would have, with 30 seconds increment you have to note the moves down regardless of the time on your clock

No. FIDE Laws of Chess, Article 8.1 says otherwise: "A player may reply to his opponent’s move before recording it, if he so wishes. He must record his previous move before making another." So you don't have to write it _immediately_ after the opponent moves is the point. For example, say I am playing Black in a classical game, and White opens 1. e4. I am then allowed to blitz out 1... e5 without recording "1. e4". However, once the opponent responds with 2. Nf3, I am not allowed to play 2... Nc6 without recording "1. e4 e5". In practice, I and other players typically do this when I am low on time and there is an obvious move, such as a recapture or an only move, so as to get a bonus of 29-30 seconds instead of 25 seconds. It can absolutely make all the difference.

No you can play your move before writing down your opponent's move. The rule is that your previous move must be written down before you play your move. Also, the rule which states that players don't have to write down their moves is usually for little to no increment time controles like Norway Chess. But official FIDE times controles are with 30s increment which is enough to write a move and play one, therefore there is almost never such a rule which allows you to stop writing down your move.

I think he would have lost some time on the clock as a penalty, but on top of that, as far as I know, the game would have resumed but he would have been forced to play a legal move with the piece he touched. So at any rate he would have ended up moving the king and losing, because any legal king move loses in this position

How can you play an illegal move? You are simply resigning at that point.

I don't understand your question. How can you insist on playing an illegal move?

I think in classic you just lose

@@XxMVPxDawg bro if it wasn't for lichess not allowing me to make the move I can't imagine how many illegal moves I'd play unintentionally. clearly I'm a noob though so 🤣

No. It does require to play the piece you touch during your move. Which Sam did. You can adjust your own pieces by saying j'adoube. Which you can do during your opponents turn but usually you wait until your turn.

He moved his piece after his opponent moved but before his opponent pressed the clock. Perhaps this is somewhat a grey area in the rules. At the end of the day, it’s up to the arbiter to make the decision.

Also, it was his move and he touched the king to put it back in its original square, so this surely counts as touching it on his move.

@@houseofleaves126 That's not a grey area in the rules. If you touch your piece with the intention to move it, you have to move it. But, also your observation is not correct. Have a look at 2:15. Hovhannisyan is about to press the clock. Shankland has not yet touched his piece.

If you did understand just a little bit about human nature you would know it was his subconscious mind that was playing the last move ,thus his conscious mind was completely unaware of what it was doing

2700+ rated amateur player?

Armchair GM here

Nice analysis, Magnus Carlsen

@@absidyabsidy2727 He is not an amateur player, his behavior at the time was. I think you urgently need a reading comprehension course.

Flagging means that you win (or draw) a game on time. It does happen over the board chess as well (not just online). This has nothing to do with that..

Bro "flagging" litterally comes from OTB chess, since old mecanical clocks used flags which would fall when you run out of time (hence the expression "to flag" for running out of time). So "real life flagging" is just flagging. Anyways, I don't see what this has to do with flagging

@@bobing1752 Bro wrote the same comment...

@@Rikuzki well you said it happens on OTB chess, while I say it's borrowed from OTB chess. But yes, it's pretty much the same idea.

i was not having such a literal meaning. All i see here is the opponent didn't do the most ovious move which made sam predict wrong and since its OTB u need to play the piece that you touched.

The problem is you will get people shuffling pieces all over the place to "see" the variations more clearly which is at a minimum annoying and at worst will muck up the position.

This is the main rule of chess: think before play.

He touched the king and therefore has to make a king-move. Every legal move with the king is absolutely losing though, that‘s why he resigned immediately.

@@Osigot Yes but there is also the reality of time trouble which forces players to move quickly since they are given less and less time even in classical time format. How often do we see 120 minutes for 40 moves, 60 minutes for the next 20 moves and 30 moves + increment for the rest of the game time control? Only in candidates and wcc matches.

@@CapAnson12345 Common sense should not be violated in any case giving freedom to players to touch every piece before they finally make their move. I am not talking about that. It would be quite disturbing. With the current rules, a player can indeed touch a piece and not move it if it is clear to both players and there is absolutely no ambiguity that it is done to correct the position of a piece in a square. That can be done. So I think touch rule can also be relaxed to minimize losses that is not the evaluation of the position.