Analyzing Evil: Captain Vidal From Pan's Labyrinth 

@The Apocalex Not sure I agree... even the Satanist goth/emo boy in junior high school classes who claims he's evil and likes it because Evil (circular logic) is probably really saying that normalcy failed or hurt him. Somebody in a dictatorial position is probably convincing themselves that it's what's best for people too inferior to know what's good for them. Even sadism isn't really evil for evil's sake if the motivation of a sadist is a sense of satisfaction or fun, not sadism for the sake of sadism...and because I think evil for evil's sake is rare, then I can't consider that characteristic of this species either. Not to resort to woo-woo but after a certain point I can't help thinking, "that's Not Human, there must be something else going on".

@@ellymarks6833 what would you consider evil? Is it what humans consider morally incorrect or is there objective truths to what evil is like species elimination and denying things like the necessities for survival? Not really going anywhere with this just curious

@@ooo662, pain that I cannot escape from makes a strong contender, especially when it's being directly caused by somebody I expect to have the capacity or understanding of somebody else's pain. It's more difficult to call a natural disaster or a large predatory animal "evil"-but, even with the understanding that some people are neurologically wired to behave sadistically, selfishly, dishonestly or deceptively to an extreme even to themselves, relentlessly cultivating dependency so that their targets cannot escape pain or cannot build boundaries to individuate because that's all they know how to do and can't or won't care to stop if it's explained to them why it's bad, and are internally compromised in providing compassionate empathy (except selectively, or transactionally)...then that's evil to me. Advanced enough ignorance that is willful and indistinguishable from malice gets the silver-and the systematic acts of undermining personal agency even in ways that don't cause pain, that wins the bronze.

The woo-woo side is more abstract, it's an idea I got from Marie-Louise von Franz's book "Shadow and Evil in Fairytales" in which, a roundabout way of describing Projective Identification... people heap what they don't like about themselves on a designated acceptable target, whether or not the target earned it by doing something harmful. This is technically psychology, this "heaping-onto" the image we have of a person within our minds, even if it comes from a person who exists outside of our mind. The woo-woo part is the response of the person outside of our minds to become the image that others make of them, whether or not that image was an accurate evaluation of that person before this Projective Identification process. This is not a Persona, or at least not a functional one, as a Persona should protect somebody's true self from what others think about them...whereas when the ego fully identifies with what others think about them, without the integration with the personal Shadow side (in the Shadow's aspect of creativity and wisdom, not only the rejected parts of the self), then that's when it gets strange. Because at the same time, in the broadest and most vague sense, Evil is what happens when a person is possessed to an overwhelming degree by the divine in a context that is inappropriate to host a divine presence. Sometimes the divine works through people in a tempered way, turning mere mortals into earthdwelling angels and inspiring harmony-if the life each person lives has honed them into a suitable vessel or host for the divine, in ways that heavy rituals and lifestyles based on the pursuit of spiritual enlightenment can only hope to imitate or replicate the conditions of. But when this divine presence is not tempered or compatible, then it could very well be the same type of divine force that overwhelms its host to extremely harmful action. In an odd way, we recognize this by our projection: "That's not human." Logically, that's ridiculous, of course human is still the species of a person who does this...but in a backhanded way, removing humanity is recognition of the divine (or elevation to divine) that the vessel or host of this uncanny divine presence is overwhelmed by.

@@ellymarks6833 appreciate the detailed answer, people always seem to have different views when it comes to "evil", I've always had a hard time seeing something as evil, my mind just goes to "that action was at the detriment to society so it's considered morally incorrect"

I agree with you 💯

Yet he serves the forces of order, oppression, statism, papism, collectivism, and totalitarianism. It's like he's caught between the dual extremes of master morality and slave morality.

Guillermo Del Toro is a genius! I loved his work ever since his version of HellBoy.

@@emilyglass5313 And he made his version of Pinocchio a masterpiece which gave a lesson about disobedience as a virtue and the value of life

@Héctor G. Vega Osuna I watched that movie a few months ago, and it was amazing! It deserves that Oscar win.

That's just the actor showing the strain from having had to devolve his whole career from witty, eloquent roles towards what turned into his two biggest hits. Pay no, and I REPEAT! NO!! Attention to the ticking time bomb that is Mr. R...[edacted].

Honestly, that would make for an extremely amusing analyzing evil video.

he isn't clumsy, he's trying to kill people!

@@Hurmeri he's an electrical engineer

@@seabreeze4559 I think a masters or double major in it

Well said👍

...and you can see what happens next to the ones who dissobeys authoritarians.

Eventually we see the downfall of authoritarianism. Most people want to be free.

Communism isn't better than fascism.

​@@bethfinne3260what is freedom

It’s been a while since I saw the film but from what I remember she didn’t fall for him really. Her husband had died so she was left to take care of her daughter on her own which back then was really hard and also kind of a taboo of sorts so having a high ranked military man want to marry you probably didn’t seem like a bad choice compared to her other options at the time.

@@djtheturtle1399 Exactly, she only married him out of necessity.

What Dj the turtle said. I'll add one thing: We, the lucky folks living in the 2000's, really CAN'T understand just how many horrible things used to be the norm for all of human existence.

@@djtheturtle1399 that's very true

His mammoth dong.

Just like the government would! Lol

@@Reduxalicious haha, you may have a point

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@@kgpspyguy Give it time.

Absolutely...he's was such a despicable character...I also like Agent Smith, Keyser Soze & Bill The Butcher

@@TheCapedCrusader39 I agree, but state is just a monopoly on violence. Power is about being able to enforce your will and do whatever is necessary to enforce it, killing people being the lowest of your worries. Wake up, can't stay blissfully ignorant forever

I dream of shipping where Ophelia hugs big Vidal and he becomes kind.

I dream of shipping where Ophelia hugs big Vidal and he becomes kind.

Well he's discussed video game villains like Yu Yevon and Ganondorf, so I wouldn't think TV villains are off the table. If anything they should have an equal opportunity to get a video, as there's more content to analyse.

I wouldn't call him evil honestly.

Tywin Lannister is far from evil. He is no Saint either but he is defiantly not evil. That is a title that is much more fitting of his grandson Joffery Baratheon, or Ramsey Bolton.

@The Apocalex What’s more stupid is making a statement without valid reasons to back it up.

@@desertmortician9332 Well he did a video on him so here we are. Lol

YES! There is just something off putting that I can't quite articulate, but I am sure Vile can do perfectly. I mean I know the killings are awful but something more primal and scary is in there too.

@@lefonzowesley5652 agree with you here 100 percent.

A good performance but too cartoonish.

@@andocando8734 I could argue captain Vidal is too cartoonish I think Lou would be a great character to analyse

dude this would be incredible

It's on the way

Or Buffalo Bill

@@gimmetheloot1213 I feel like Buffalo Bill is already analysed in the movie tho

@@kithurren6520 he’s a shy boy. Or was that the red dragon

Alex Forrest from Fatal Attraction

Both Franco and Pinocht were pitiful men with voices like a deflated balloon, a lot like Jordan Peterson

@@ReprodestruxionJordan Peterson is a genius

@@Reprodestruxionyou are a woke social justice warrior

@@frollo5332 in his own dwindling mind

@@frollo5332 gracias

Brutality

It has scarred me.

Great scene

@@zaza-ik5wsnightmares?

Coachman from Disney's Pinocchio ( 1940 )

Hey he was a good shot so maybe he was a skilled combatant aswell u never know

Thats an incredibly ignorant statement if I am honest. I'm sure the Russians and Americans who fought the Afghans would still consider their time as war. But I guess Vietnam was also 'not war' since rice paddy Vietcong are not exactly an equivalent to US military might.

@@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364 That's an incredibly ignorant statement, if I'm honest. The movie takes place in 1944; five years after the Republic's defeat in the Spainish Civil War. There was no worthy resistance after 1939. He was only up against thugs.

@@mikhailiagacesa3406 how so you think war with insurgents is insignificant?

"low intensity war" huh? Could you compare and contrast the unique individual challenges between, civil, guerilla, and total war? We had military officers who were heroes in WW2 go on to lose in Korea and Vietnam. But also the studies after the Vietnam war revealed the average soldier in Vietnam saw a significant amount more combat than the average WW2 soldier. Something on the order of 200-300%

Batty wasn't a bad guy. And fuck the Tyrell Corporation.

YES

I'd rather to see the other anthagonist of the same movie, Percy is almost childish even in his evil ways, the other character is ruthless and sees fun in it, much scarier imo

@@Scrubermensch who?

I second this!!! I hope it gets more likes.

@@ayekantspeylgud Wild Bill

I second this

Great video by the way!

Like ASMR for vile evil ppl.

It’s weird how different his chill talking voice is to his voice in these videos

I see him as a good man who becomes evil because of a corrupt justice system.

the Take has a great video on Gus called Man as Corporation or something

@@Waxwell1 yea I saw that it was well done I wanted to get his take lol jk on the man I think the way he does it is unquestionably unique and want to see what it would be like hey man thanks for the recommendation

Dont think roy was evil

@@Jack-ng4cl neither was arthur fleck from joker but he still got featured in a video :)

Mr Blonde is probably the most memorable villain, Mr. Pink is also great but not really portrayed as the bad guy.

Military uniforms, as much as I hate saying it, Fascists knew how to dress intimidating

Yes!!! I also want Tony Soprano

Who is that? Or did you mean Heisenberg?

@@AVKnecht pretty sure he did lol. That would be a good one. Some anti hero action

he's more of an anti-villian.

That would be a 5 hour documentary, not a 30 minute video lol

@@gronizherz3603 Even better!

What about Aleczandxr's videos? Those are good.

@@SwfanredLotr I believe you're talking about "Griffith Did Nothing Wrong" correct? I actually found myself watching that video not too long ago. I highly recommend it. Thank you for the suggestion!

I wouldn’t say so but even if, It is a fantasy film after all. He’s an oversimplified version of a character but even his presence is enough to instill fear, because we know he can explode at any moment, with no hint that the damn will soon burst.

@@joshuapatrick682 More than the "explotion", what is scary about him is that he has power over all the ppl surrounded him. He can do whatever he want with them even taking their lives and there is nothing anybody can do agains that. Like the regime itself.

@Viktor' 'Hyrst I'm not saying I agree with the characterization, I'm just saying I understand the perspective the film had. And I have read all of The Gulag Archipelago.

Isn't that kind of the point, though? That fascism incentivizes people to become inhuman embodiments of a political ideology rather than individuals?

@Viktor' 'Hyrst so true, it's sad so many people will watch this movie and just get propagandized. Nothing is so black and white but that is what people today believe

That's a great suggestion

He’s already done it

@@burntgrahamcracker2866 he did Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker

@@hunterandre6360 ah sorry brain just scanned over the name

Ramsay is just the worst, I hate him. And why did you put villains in quotations

@@anatoldenevers237 because it’s debatable who’s a villain in the show and who isn’t imo. Clearly, Ramsay is but some people do evil deeds but aren’t necessarily a villain. For example, Stannis seems to be a villainous character throughout the entire time he is on the show but isn’t exactly a villain if that makes sense.

@@urlittlewindmill Fair enough. The clearest villains are probably Ramsay Joffrey and Gregor. Stannis... I hate show Stannis. The show as really good until season 8, but Stannis I felt was terribly adapted from the books. Have you read the books

@@anatoldenevers237 no! I haven’t but I watched a video about re-writing stannis so I know what his book counterpart is like...it really sucks. That’s why I bought him up, in the show he’s presented as a really villainous person.

@@urlittlewindmill Yeah, I'm actually really rooting for him in the books, partially because he's cool and partially because he's going against House Bolton, the most clear cut villainous house in the series. I don't believe books Stannis would ever burn his daughter

Not sure if you’ve seen it but Life is Beautiful is another great sub titled film. Probably my favourite along with Pans Labyrinth.