Analyzing Evil: N'Jdaka Erik "Killmonger" Stevens From Black Panther 

The force is strong in this vibration of words that egnight fire within us all

His has parallel Shaka Zulu

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We was kangz

​@@darthsidious7612 We waz apez

Honestly Caucasians collectively are long past due for their comeuppance

@@3rdeyemang you’re part of the problem.

Lol damn right he did. No liberation without oppression. The ruling class WILL be oppressed so that the working class and the colonized liberate themselves. There's no "problem" with this. Class struggle has always resulted from violent resistance and one class destroying the next class to become the ruling class.

@@3rdeyemang racist loser

@@3rdeyemang curious takeaway, would you say the Irish, Poles, Czechs, Armenians, and Slavs all deserve 'comeuppance' for their race despite being historically oppressed peoples? Do Asian ethnicities deserve 'comeuppance' for Mongolian near extermination of the Rus, Chinese oppression of Nanman or Japanese decimation of Korea other peoples at various historical times? Do Native Americans deserve comeuppance for wars or oppression against other tribes? Do Sudanese, Nigerian or Congolese peoples deserve comeuppance for the actions of the Zulu against the other Bantu offshoots and the Bush people? Do you begin to see the fallacy of defining punishment based on racial makeup and how using such line of thought will just continue to perpetrate a cycle of violence and oppression as old as the human species.

U still watch that trash?

Haven't watched it...but he..."returned"? How? In a coffin with his eyes closed and a mute?

He probably is somewhat like Ivan the Terrible in wakanda history the worst rebel and tyrant of that nation’s history but part of its history nevertheless

@@beloved-child Did you forget where the black panthers go when they die?

That might be the best scene from wakanda forever cause the rest was Trash capital T

Perfect description.

Similar to Koba

The funny thing is nobody’s whipping him or his people. He’s not oppressed.

@@vanguardian2864 Eh I disagree. He is a member of an ethnic group that is that bottom of the U.S racial caste system.

@@vanguardian2864 yeah and racism is not real right? lmfao 400 years of slavery, 150 years of segregation but he's not oppressed right?

Oh I don't think I've heard that. Right. In the pursuit of Vengeance, You kill yourself... Spiritually if not physically. Sometimes both. I just watched the "Old Boy" episode of this series. A deeply disturbing look at revenge lust in an intriguing movie

The fact that anybody pictures this villain as sympathetic and relates to him says a lot about the indoctrination and racial propaganda that permeates our society today. I hope we can all join together to fight back against it this cultural decay, but victimhood and mob mentality is just too appealing to people.

He’s not terribly complex at all. He’s a genocidal racist with a victim complex in spite of never being oppressed himself, coming from a people that were never oppressed, and generally just hateful asshole.

He was the very image of a black living In a black town seeing black on black crime and grows up to blame wites. Fun fact only his hated wite government even tried to make anything of him.

Fax

Im wonder if that same logic was used by the Romans when they razed Carthage. Oh...and they salted the earth.

@@keinadavis100 The Romans razed Carthage in the spring of 146, Marcus Aurelius succeeded his adoptive father Antoninus Pius in 161 BC my guy

@@Gorys64 you mean AD for Marcus Aurelius. Rome raised carthage in 146BCE and Marcus Aurelius took the throne in 161CE.

@@lowlsqwid right, sorry I always get those confused lol

But isn't that the goal of life? To become that monster and to live in that Abyss. At least for a while to surpass them. Or to simply be one with the Darkness that is a choice left to each individual. i would hope that transcending it is the goal and to transcend one needs to fully experience first.

​@@revariox189hmmm

​@@revariox189yes

“…while plumbing its deaths…”

You guys always say this when someone is trying to get your white foot off their neck. So white people fight with no remore, but everyone who fights back must show humanity.

This video calls this dude a psychopath when he's clearly the relatable one. If you hate this dude, you hate America.

He literally plays himself - his roles don’t differ that much from each other in performance

@@firstlast9846 Yeah, definitely a lie. Clearly you haven’t seen many of his roles. Fruitvale Station, The Wire, Red Tails, and Chronicle are all very different from each other.

@@firstlast9846 I agree. I think a better actor would have played the role much differently and better. His performance seemed contrived to me.

@@firstlast9846go watch fruitville station then return here and delete this stupid ass comment…

Help Em’ - he’s never given a performance which is drastically different from his mannerisms or speech in interviews.. he just plays extensions of himself - and not the character

It just amazes me that even in death he was emotionally unavailable due to his life experiences

That's the point of the character. He had good intentions but a evil plan.

He was also raised (like most of us) in a society that reflects exactly that colonialism mentality. It is rare (but not unseen) that people don't do the same mistakes that were done to them. It's not excusing, it is explaining. I personally do not think his plan is wrong. But that may be because I am one of the opressed... It seems pretty obvious that we all want a life where we can have all we NEED to live and be able to pursue what our dreams/passion are. It is also obvious that ressources to do that are hoarded by certain people and the redistribution of wealth is not the way it could/should be knowing the capabilities we have as Human species. We (and by that I mean those in power and us for our complaisance and lack of action) are responsible for this state of affair. We do not care, we individually want more money to have more (percieved or real) power. Power to purchase, power to influence power to impose our own will. etc. Point is, we live in a society where poor people clearly have to be more...violent simply for the sake of their own survival. And sometimes, it is trough violence that one is able to gain a better life. Didn't get to leave Oakland by joining military and special forces? As long as you do violence for the "right" cause then it is justified and glorious. But when done to elevate ones self it is now an abomination?? As per revenge, well that is simply the natural response to anyone in such a situation. US justice system is built on exactly that, punitive justice instead of educative/integrative. We want criminals to suffer for the sufferance they infliced upon our loved ones. I am still awaiting the day where I will see him as Evil. But then again, I also highly understand and think John Doe's mission was not wrong.

@@revariox189 so you wanna commit genocide .. cool .

​@@revariox189very interesting comment 😂 that and I feel like it's a perfect 180, the very saying used by his enemies will be the slogan for when he takes over the world

That's called and eye for eye mentality, or giving the Euro-Neanderthals a taste of their own medicin. Killmongerwasjustified#

Killmonger didn't want to help the world. He wanted to either slaughter or dominate it based on racial grounds.

Eric was an incredible villain, the best marvel villain i think

Marvel movies have terribly boring villains. Killmonger, Loki, and Thanos are the very few exceptions.

@@badluck5647 ultron was pretty good too..

@@afrosamourai400 Respectfully disagree

@ericemanwu Yes!!! For the short time I have been tuning into this series, “Analyzing Evil”, I really love the profound advice that’s left for the audience… An evil character added with a mislead desire to handle the most drastic problems in the world equals a character, who ultimately could have been a wonderful protagonist had they been imposed with a sincere sense of actually virtue when they were young!!!👏🏽🤵🏽🎩✨

Right and ppl really saying he not a villain💀

It speaks volumes of the propaganda through our corporations, media, and higher education. All that needs to go.

I find it weird how the movie gives all these lectures on black culture - then has T’Challa’s main ally be *THE FUCKING CIA* 😂

Killmonger is part of a cycle vengeance where genocide is the catalyst action. So instead of a murder for murder, it's genocide for genocide. I think a lot of people can relate to wanting vengeance and wrestling with it being justified but as the saying goes "an eye for an eye makes thge whole world blind". Even if we the audience can sympathize with his pain, we, unlike the character have the mercy of distance and perspective. Killmonger didn't want genocide, we can see, but rather alleviation for his pain which he attributed to purely to white supremacy. We are left to ask then "what did Erik need to find true healing?"

A lot of people seem have trouble accepting that you can have a noble purpose or make good points and still be a villain. There are millions of Killmongers throughout history. Revolutionarys who tried to fight against capitalism or colonialism, but also were completely OK with genocide, or oppressing LGBT people, or whatever. Nobody should be put on a pedestal.

And eren fuckin jaeger..with sieg jaeger too.

Human nature only react to drama and violence..erik used violence so it forced wakanda to move..

Both are called erik too lol, but magneto never impacted how xavier thought unlike killmonger who changed tchalla.

Only difference is that Megneto has a more justified reason to possess his hatred

@@Sumschmuck Those people are long gone and for a very different reason and Magneto wanted to wipe out most of humanity because they are lesser people, much like the Talmudists are doing.

Magneto is loosely based off of Malcolm X (while Prof X is MLK) so yea, this fits 👍🏽

​@Sumschmuck so does killmonger

So do i.

​​@@samuelebincoletto637 Me too

YES!

I don’t even know what that is but yes

Hell yeah. Love that story

YES!! Such a good choice!

100%

Agreed

Isn’t that like saying the Seinfeld gang are evil because of all they’ve done?

@@gingaddict With the Seinfeld gang there's always a sense that the harm they do is unintentional and incidentally exacerbated. Just about every character is fairly exaggerated. It never feels mean. Whereas with Always Sunny it's incredibly clear to the audience how sociopathic and narcissistic and mean-spirited they are. The side-characters are portrayed realistically and reacting perfectly within reason to the horrible things the gang subject them to. Seinfeld feels careless. Always Sunny feels evil.

@@doctorheck2186 just look at what they did to cricket. He had a whole career as a priest and when they’re done with him he’s living on the street

Yeah those mofos are 100% evil lol. The only thing stopping them from being full blown killers is ironically the fact that they achieve nothing when they hangout, and they hangout all the time. Even then one of them is still implied to be a serial killer 😂

I do love the theories about whether Shane would do better than Rick against the next villains he would face

@@ridensroom6957 Shane would’ve definitely gotten them all killed way earlier in the show. While Rick can be reckless by either ignorance (s1-3) or pride (s6), he is usually able to keep his emotions in check. Shane is way too hotheaded and stubborn and he most certainly would’ve gotten them killed based on his attack first ideology.

Why is he defended?

@@afrosamourai400 I don’t wanna sit here and endlessly play devils advocate for Shane again but there’s a case to be made that he was adapting to the apocalypse at 10x the speed Rick did and was already proving to be a solid leader before Rick showed up, and most of Shane’s issues come from Rick swooping in and taking everything from him and Shane just wanting to get a 1up or get back at Rick. If Rick died at the hospital then Shane could have theoretically, if given Ricks amount of development time, grown to be an unstoppable force (like a Negan without ego and taking no chances). Obviously come mid s2 he was so mindbroken and psychotic that he was never coming back to normal, so any argument that s2 Shane would do well if he had beaten Rick crumbles pretty easily

@@Z0mbieShock I never thought about that, and thats a great point. Yes Shane was psychotic but we didnt know that till later, so we're seeing a Season 3-4 Rick in Shane when Rick first meets up with the group.

Dude is literally just black hitler.

Poor black him..... pact of race bateing trash. Everyone that hurt him was black but it's wites he hates???? Sounds about right all he was ,was a racist punk with zero accountability.

Him, Loki, and Thanos. Easily.

@@joncarr1200 Loki is an anti-hero

Actually, Loki crosses the line of anti-hero and anti villain frequently.

@@brandonmoss7976 he was a villain the first Thor and Avengers

Killmonger, magneto and thanos are really good villains..

They had to give Killmonger those victim points through lying just to make a racial genocidal monster seem sympathetic

At least he didn't look further into the history of slavery in africa. When he was done with america, who knows what he'd have done to the great slave empires of africa and the middle east in pursuit of his blind venegance.

Yep. Oakland had bad parts like any big city, but this is dude acting like it was a warzone, lol.

@@adekaiwamisou eh, we can blame the people who hunted slaves and those who bought them, we don't blame the victims though. We get pissed at germany for invading poland but we don't get pissed at poland and europe as a whole, that's generalizing europe and unfair. If your gonna be made at an african empire, you might as wellsay exactly what empire in africa and where it is(was) in africa

@@walrusArmageddon The kingdoms of Benin and Dahomey were great exporters of slaves, the Masai were feared slave traders and the Ottoman empire stretched through the entire northern part of Africa, all the way to Gibraltar, not to mention their east coast colonies. Those from teh top of my head. Slavery in africa was a lot more complicated than invaders taking slaves away, be they from east or west. Never blame the victims but sadly, I imagien when killmonger would find out about the equally, if not more, brutal slave trade of the east and what certain african coutnries did to slaves, he'd probably be on a much more fierce warpath.

Until all colonial powers are out of Africa border Why you think African cannot think for themselves?

@@lordcurious-mw9yd That's NEVER gonna happen as they are clearly there to stay, and he NEVER said that africans can't think for themselves. People are different all around the world.

@@lordcurious-mw9yd No, just no. You're not a "cOwArd" for thinking like that at all as that's the TRUTH of the situation. It's like european colonizers came here to the americas and they were definitely THERE TO STAY regardless if there was native people there. Even Native American tribes knew that the white people weren't going anywhere and that's why alot of native lands were reserved as they made compromises with the american government, and the natives tribes that fought back inevitably got wiped out from their lands and moved else where. Fortunately Africa didn't go through circumstances that were THAT bad in the 20th century during european colonization but they are definitely not going anywhere at this point.

@@Gadget-Walkmen My people have always been at war with colonial power So yeah in my house you are a coward, And thank God,we are still poor But we are free, all praise to God The Merciful! And why do African American help 🇺🇸 army to destroy Africa?

@@lordcurious-mw9yd I’m not a “coWaRd” at all, you’re just a fool whose short sighted. Yes African countries have been at war with colonial power and even WON like ending apartheid but what you’re saying here doesn’t make any sense as Africa is just fine from “colonial power”. In YOUR house, you don’t know what you’re talking REGARDLESS as I’m FAR from a “foOl” at all here. And lol at saying “aNd tHaNk gOd wE ArE StiLl pOoR” lol who would ever want to be “poor” at all. And you’re religious rambling here just makes you look crazy here. NO African American is EVER going to “destroy” Africa at all NOR is AmErIcA going to do so either. You’re just making up nonsense here. Nothing more. Stop, seriously, just stop!

Sympathetic in the same way Hitler was.

@@cappycapulet4700 no that is not what I meant.

​@@cappycapulet4700 Comparing Killmonger to Hitler is insane. You need to get educated on Hitler and white supremacy and colonialism. It's a shame they didn't teach you that in school.

@@cappycapulet4700 LOL that's clearly not what he meant.

@@damianstarks3338 But killmonger is basically black Hitler.

The joker had no reason to do bad things unlike killmonger..

@@afrosamourai400 That's not true. Joker HAD a "reason" to do bad things as he become nihilistic towards the world at one point in his life from the suffering he went through to the point it through him insane but forgot the reason for WHY he went crazy.

@@Gadget-Walkmen the nolan joker was just bad for no reason..i'm not talking about arthur

@@afrosamourai400 No? I NEVER said the “nolan joker” at all, I’m talking about the Joker’s GENERAL characterization that he has in the comics as established from the Killing Joke and onward. I never said anything about Arthur at all. And even than Nolan’s joker DOES have his reasoning for why he does bad things it’s just it’s ambiguously up for interpretation just as the movie intended. The Vile Eye has a video on it displaying and talking about the at as well. So no Nolan’s joker was NOT “just bad for no reason”, that’s not true at all, you’re just not paying attention and seeing the bigger picture.

He was a anti villain

All he 8s is black Dr doom... a cry baby that could have been so much more

I thought he did Lee woo Jin?

I agree to some of them Also, it’s Cipher not Cypher

@@sabir1208 He did. Which is why I put a check mark next to it

Idk he's kind of like a black hitler

Hardly. He’s an entitledc power-hungry racist, and that’s pretty much it.

With an inflated victim mentality

@Gabe's Gaming nothing inflated about it.

@@deathbywords how? he acted like he was the only one who went through losing a dad or parents and decided to end the damn world. I’d say it is.

Knives would be a real good one.

He def needs to do Knives

Think we'd get get another deep-dive akin to "Analyzing Evil: Morgoth" if he did?

@@an-animal-lover I don't think so, Morgott isn't really evil. It'd be a better choice if he were to pick Marika or Malenia

@@janugur2241 I didn't ask whether you considered him an evil character, I was asking whether you thought we'd get another hour long deep-dive, like Vile did with his video on Morgoth back in July of last year. At least that was my assumption given your comment on Dark Souls's lore

@@an-animal-lover Sorry, i thought you meant "Morgott" from Elden Ring. As to your question, i think an hour long video about Gwyn is very possible due to the amount of information we get about him and his Dynasty. Though i doubt The Vile Eye would do a video like that because when you think about it a lot of the lore we can get from Dark Souls is based on deductions and assumptions from item descriptions that were written as if it was perceived from a 3rd person sources and given that these videos are based on strict information only i think we'd get a video around half an hour.

I don’t think a majority of this audience has the brain cells for a Gwyn video, as evidenced by all the “Killmonger is the best villain there ever was” comments.

There's also the bit where he believes the only way to end the oppression is through genocide....

@@BlooCollaGal Well there’s a lot of political philosophy that advocates that and i don’t think that’s a position that is totally indefensible position. Do i agree with it, probably not, but that’s a moot point anyway because as Vile pointed out in the video; killmonger doesn’t believe it. The issue with killmonger is his fight was never with oppression, it was revenge and he saw that with co-opting the fight for liberation he could justify his quest for power. Killmonger did not want to end oppression, he simply wanted to topple the current system and replace it with a system that had him on top. The reason i said Marvel defanged him because they could have told a more complex story with killmonger similar to the one they told with Namor in the sequel but with a better villain i think. I don’t really see the point of your comment other than you didn’t engage with any of the other points i made. No shit genocide is bad, we all know genocide is bad, it’s just a tired trope of making the villain less sympathetic by making him want to commit genocide. Marvel does it far to often and that was the point of my comment.

When did wakanda used imperial tactics in the movie?

@@falloutjustcause motivation shmotivation. Killmonger was a whiney baby who wanted to flip the table over so nobody else could play.

Black Panther came out decades before The Lion King, genius.

@@lapislazuli5035 Yes but NOT the plot for this movie as the plot for the black panther movie and Black Panther comics are NOT the same. And even Lion King's plot is not the same as this movie's plot, they have FEW similarities of a royal court being dethroned from family members but that's about it.

*Jungle Emperor by Tezuka Osamu

And Lion king is a remake of hamlet, isn’t it crazy how art references art? Wild

Great suggestion! A classic example of how a narcissist can still affect the people around them, even after death.

Is it a show?

@@afrosamourai400 it’s a novel by Daphne DuMorier (probably butchered that spelling) and a film by Alfred Hitchcock

The worst thing about the Black Panther films is they take a completely american view of race relations and project it into Africa where it makes absolutely no sense for it to be.

Ohhhhhh so good!!!