Second channel: / @toofortoo242 Twitter: / tooforwon241 Instagram: / tooforwon241 For business inquiries, contact me via email at tooforwon.business@gmail.com
Perkins is still salty that Curry accidentally stepped on him in the 2018 finals. He got in an argument with Curry and then Curry went and broke the record for most 3s in a finals game.
Kendrick was a bum as a player and is a bum as an analyst. I have no issue with these bozo pundits that solely look to stir the pot but get push back responses from respected players. Perk had a lot of shit to talk about the warriors and he's gotta walk that down whether he wants to or not. Dray said it early on in the season "don't let us win another championship". Now here we are and he's fully entitled to talk his talk.
@@iamthestormthatisapproachi5174 he said the warriors are highly respected. Which is very untrue outside of the golden state and Stephen curry fan base. Many of us actual basketball fans are well aware that them light skin hoes and Draymond donkey face were scared shitless of lebron, and wanted to make sure there was no competition to them. I respect their skills as a players, but they are mentally weak as hell.
Perkins has been aggressively and insulting stupid for a long time. At least Stephen A and Skip make it fun, Perkins just stares with the same deadpan expression while spewing bullshit (member 70 win Lakers? Oh yeah, pepperidge farm remembers)
Skip is horrible, but I get his role, being a troll makes attention which bring money. But perkins? Hmm they already have stephen A for that...why do they need perkins since stephen a is a way better than him. He acts like he brings insight as a former nba player and player's view point...but really??? JJ may not be always right because when it comes to sports so many variables, but atleast he really believes in his perspective and tries to bring insights of players point of view without being obnoxious. And he is not even likable or funny. And he has this weird complex issues to players who can do what he can't do, and put down those players. And why does he have problems with european players??? He never gives credit for them. I bet there is so many former funny and smarter nba players who are dying for his position.
Based on perks time in the media I think it's pretty clear he never really new how to play the game. He was big and strong and knew his small role but nothing else beyond that. Other players who turned to the media like Richard Jefferson and JJ Redick actually explain what is happening in the game showing their knowledge rather than sticking to "hot takes" Perkins doesn't know the game but he wants to be heard so these it's easy for him to just stir up bullshit and then not take accountability for being stupid.
Draymond Green doesn’t back down from anyone and also another funny thing is he finally explained why he pulls players’ shorts especially in NBA Finals 2016. But he is also another funny man who loves to troll the media people I like it. It’s Kendrick Perkins’ fault even though he is a funny man with a big talking head, Draymond Green made him look bad.
Man, I wasn't really into basketball earlier this year, but I was playing 2k22. And I thought it was bad design when some clown would go from "MP ain't nothing! He's gonna fail" to "I'm on the MP train, and I'm driving it!" back to "he's not the guy" in back to back clips on the game. Now I watch this, them geniuses perfectly captured Kendrick Perkins.
Your videos are actually up there with the top of the top. Congratulations on consistently delivering ps You will definitely monetise this stuff and I hope this day comes sooner rather than later - you deserve it. Peace 🙏🏾
Subscribed. Love that you actually grabbed clips from all these shows, some I actually hadn’t seen. Keep doing that. Far too many NBA youtubers who just talk over NBA highlights. This was great. And I love this Warriors team man
Kendrick Perkins is nothing but a clout chaser analyst. He knows how the media game is played to get noticed. Doing KD dirty like that when they were friends and he's even hanged with KP's family shows he's all in on getting ahead as an analyst.
Perkins trying to generate controversy to keep his job and raise his “analyst” profile. The problem is he doesn’t offer any good analysis and his beef with GSW clearly shows in his biased “analysis”. At some point he’ll slip up and say something really stupid and get shown the door.
Another masterpiece!! As for the big ogre (a very accurate description), Perkins just made my Mt Rushmore of insufferable NBA analysts along with Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright and Ryan Hollins. I loved the bit where you pointed out how Perkins completely contradicted himself by saying that no one's saying that Curry needs a Finals MVP when he's the one that's been spewing that garbage all over the airwaves! I for one wouldn't be the least bit upset if Perkins is ousted from ever appearing on TV again. He talks like he's holding acorns in his mouth and his hot takes are hot garbage.
His broken English I can forgive, but sometimes he tries too hard when he adds random catchphrases here & there. I had to cut them out when editing tho (there were a lot). "keep a cool booty" is funny ngl
while everything else you say here is solid… lmao ok sorry but there is a ZERO % chance that anyone who bafflingly thinks shannon sharpe is somehow a more insufferable analyst than the rancid pukestain who sits across from him SKIP BAYLESS doesn’t have some hilariously idiotic & backwards NBA takes themselves 😂
Ding, ding & ding! You nailed it on the head! I think we take ourselves too seriously sometimes & there are truths to both sides. Honestly you have to be unserious about these things mostly to be able to weave through it all. Otherwise you get stuck on one end and never get out
I kind of get what Perk is saying about the Finals MVP, I think Steph needed it to secure his legacy and stop the narratives, but he didn't need it to prove himself top 10. He was already top 10, the Finals MVP was just the last accolade that people held over his head to discount his legacy
If someone is going to confess something like, "I prayed for someone to be injured on national tv then he or she should be prepared for people's honest reactions.......No one has to give anyone a "safe space" to confess the terrible things they've done......I'm tired of people doing and saying terrible things to people and then being arrogant enough to EXPECT forgiveness or understanding......Forgiveness is not an entitlement, it is a gift.....Draymond was absolutely correct praying for Lebron to be injured was a character flaw on Kendrick's part......and if Kendrick was going ro confess it on tv then he should have been prepared for the strong reactions.
did you watch the interview where Perk said that, because i did, and he says it completely aware it will stir conflict but goes on to explain why he said what he said and if you would watch the interview you would know he says he is now sorry that he did what he did but in the moment in his fear, he wished to himself for Bron not to play that game, that something would happen to him so he would have 0 chances to attend the game because if there was a chance he could attend he would and he would tear them a new one... im not saying i agree with the dude, im just saying, you operating on limited and missunderstood information
@@weedhigh2564 If that is the case then why lash out at Draymond Green for his remarks.....don't say you are aware people will talk and then throw a social media tantrum when they do.....please stop trying to justify fuckery.......I am aware that he now says he's sorry but it's concerning that he did it in the first place ....that he "prayed for Lebron's downfall and he hoped something would happen to him at practice". I didn't misunderstand I just don't minimize bullshit behavior like others do....
@@weedhigh2564 He actually said he wanted to get breaking news that Lebron had a torn ACL all because he didn't want to face him In game 7.....I don't care about fear.....an ACL injury is a serious potentially career ending injury though thankfully some players have come back from it.......Perkins is trash for asking for something like that from God just because he was. too cowardly to face a great competitor like Lebron in a GAME.....at the end of the day it's a game.......u don't wish things like that on people over a game........
@@trinigrl09 listen to the interview,in this video there are crucial parts missing/ommitted, now dont get me wrong, even when explained its still a shitty thing to wish on anyone but so are things in sports you know, i was a goalkeeper in soccer and im telling you, some players that went against me 1v1 i went on them like a hungry pittbull, in the moment you dont care about getting injured or injuring someone, what you care is stopping the other guy from scoring by any means necessary, if i have to break his ankles to do it so be it or if you look from other perspective,the opponent wont care to stomp all over you with metal bulloned shoes and break your hand bones, face and knees in the process, all he wants is to score on you. Perk gives the torn acl just as an example (albeit shitty) of something that could happen to Bron to make him miss that game, its not like he actually wished that on him, what he wishes is for Bron to miss the game not get injured by itself, just that something would happen to him to make him have 0 chance of playing that said game and with the stakes as high as they were i can tell you this, at least Perk was honest about it, he wanted to win no matter what, i dare you to bring anyone in his position and then tell me the same tought never crossed their mind, what you think people on the receiving side of the Celtics big 3, Miami big 3, GW's dynasty and big 2.5, you think not anyone wished for Steph to sit out an important game in the finals? or Bron, KD, KG, PP, Allen, Klay? in famous Draymond Green words, in the finals you do anything, ANYTHING to get the smallest edge, so Perk wishing Bron skips the game, yeah its shitty and yes it is a character flaw, but at least he was honest about it and in his regret of doing it, otherwise he would not confess it like he did.
@@trinigrl09 listen to the interview,in this video there are crucial parts missing/ommitted, now dont get me wrong, even when explained its still a shitty thing to wish on anyone but so are things in sports you know, i was a goalkeeper in soccer and im telling you, some players that went against me 1v1 i went on them like a hungry pittbull, in the moment you dont care about getting injured or injuring someone, what you care is stopping the other guy from scoring by any means necessary, if i have to break his ankles to do it so be it or if you look from other perspective,the opponent wont care to stomp all over you with metal bulloned shoes and break your hand bones, face and knees in the process, all he wants is to score on you. Perk gives the torn acl just as an example (albeit shitty) of something that could happen to Bron to make him miss that game, its not like he actually wished that on him, what he wishes is for Bron to miss the game not get injured by itself, just that something would happen to him to make him have 0 chance of playing that said game and with the stakes as high as they were i can tell you this, at least Perk was honest about it, he wanted to win no matter what, i dare you to bring anyone in his position and then tell me the same tought never crossed their mind, what you think people on the receiving side of the Celtics big 3, Miami big 3, GW's dynasty and big 2.5, you think not anyone wished for Steph to sit out an important game in the finals? or Bron, KD, KG, PP, Allen, Klay? in famous Draymond Green words, in the finals you do anything, ANYTHING to get the smallest edge, so Perk wishing Bron skips the game, yeah its shitty and yes it is a character flaw, but at least he was honest about it and in his regret of doing it, otherwise he would not confess it like he did.
Boom💯 Everytime i see a new tooforwon upload i download the vid, and listen to it podcast style first thing in the morning at work. You make my workdays better bro, keep up the good content
When Green went on his social media and called out Perkin's, labeling him with the instant iconic soundbite, and I quote: 'Hey, you don't gotta always be Enforcer The C**n.' *rhymes with loon* First off, I love how Green knew EXACTLY what he was doing, how he actually said it in a throw away manner emphasizing other points in his State of the Green address, but knowing full well what the press and Perkin's would laser in on, Green knows people, he knows human nature, he knows how to read people, fitting for a man who makes a living reading people and offenses, defenses. He knows what buttons to push and seems somehow removed from it all even as he is knee deep in it. Green is a MFin' genius at life.
🤣 The look on ol' girl's face when Perkins said "To be honest with you I don't see the Golden State Warriors bringing home another championship" literally was like 😳
Perk was a PASSENGER on the Celtics' 2008 championship, he talks like he was a DRIVER. Pierce, KG, Ray Allen, Rondo were wayt more important than Perk.
Love your uploads. You’re really making content that no one else is making. Your ability to compile past events in to chronological order for us to ultimately analyze objectively is truly remarkable. You’re doing god’s work my friend 🙏 Also: Kendrick Perkins is a 🤡 Edit: Draymond is also a 🤡
Good clarity to this back and forth but one thing you didn’t mention was as during the Olympics which was played last summer in 21 because the pandemic pushed it to 2021 instead of 2020. Perk had made a comment that the world players have taken over basketball pretty much dismissing US players because they lost a few in the preliminarily round. After US won the gold KD went live to address the disrespect on the US team and calling out folks doubting them during the process then Draymond who was also on the team join him on his live and said Kendrick Perkins in particular on what he said about the US players and Draymond said Act Like You are American. So that’s part of the storyline as well but you still did a good job breaking down the beef but this was part of it too.
To be fair, in the preliminary round, it really looked like one of those USA Dream Teams that had all the talent, but none of the cohesiveness. KD put the team on his back and carried them to the gold.
@@atraxisdarkstar I hear ya but my point isn’t how good the US Basketball team looked or didn’t look it was more about what Perk said and how KD and Draymond responded after they won gold. The storyline he told is spot on but this was one part he didn’t mention or didn’t know of the year and a half these guys been going at it.
@@tooforwon241 got me thinking about the new media...I need more info on both sides smh I didn't know Cornbread Maxwell would be involved lol. Jolly good show
Dray is one of the smartest players playing - Steve Kerr's offensive and defensive schemes don't work without him. He really knows the game inside out. Perk, by contrast, comes across like he was dropped on his head as a baby and needs to be pointed in the right direction to even face the camera.
Draymond actually did admit recently that he lost his shooting confidence so Kendrick actually was right about that. Goes to show you that you can’t believe everything these players say.
Look folks , Kendrick Perkins is still salty over that Dwayne Wade Dunk on him in the 2012 Finals . KD belonged on that 2017 - 2019 Warriors Dynasty . He should have stayed , and Racked up a decade full of Scoring Titles / MVPs / FMVPs to shut these goons like Perkins up .
I hate the argument that Steve Jaffe made that "great officiating is knowing how many techs someone has and maybe not giving them another one if they already have a tech". It is basically saying, from the league's perspective, if you get a tech in the first quarter you can pretty much get away with anything for the rest of the game
@@paradiver7550 if the refs didn't do that then truly great players would adjust their game to stop drawing fouls and they would still be great. This whole stupid ideology is a holdover from the most spineless parts of the David Stern era
Hey Tooforwon. Just a small suggestion, when showing clips of perkins or interviews with players. Maybe add the date if its not too much work. Like how much time passed between perkins saying Curry needed to win the finals and finals mvp to solidify his legacy to flip flopping to the other position. I keep up with the NFL mainly but I like this type of sports content in general. Adding some dates would establish timeline more effectively to noobs like me. I know it must be obvious to NBA fans when all this occurred. At least the tweets have a timestamp. You dont have to do it. The content is still really good!
@@tooforwon241 you put so much effort putting everything in chronological order. It would be a shame if it were misconstrued. You also mentioned you havent seen much 80s and 90s ball. Thats sort of my wheel house. The fun thing about that time is that the rivalries were fierce. In the sense that teams HATED each other. Bill lambier would stick his feet under larry bird if he tried to jump, just to twist his ankles and injure him. Bird would make sure his knee met Lambiers groin. The refs would be oblivious unless fists were swung. Magic and bird hated each other in college. For 15-20 years. Until 1986 when they filmed a converse commercial together. They became best friends after that and Bird would go on to defend Magic when he was diagnosed with HIV and advocated for him to play in the 92 olympics for the dream team. Back then HIV made you a pariah. So for Bird to publicly defend him meant alot to me as a Laker fan (I was 5 but still). If you ever run out of contemporary basketball ball material. Theres good stuff in those days too. Players were motivated by money sure. But they were happy to let the fans know they hated their rivals even more than the fans did. And when Bird reconciled with Magic, the competitiveness never left but there was a new found respect which to me exemplifies the best qualities of sportsmanship.
Since starting to watch NBA again the level of nonsense that goes on seems bizarre. The more outlandish media commentators seem to perpetuate the rubbish because they are so desperate for ratings or to be heard. I would rather listen to voices of the players and look at the stats. Let the players actions do the talking. Skip past the dross. ✌️ 🏀
What's interesting is that sports betting seemed to basically ignore the media sensationalism that surrounded the Finals. So despite the misleading analytics as well as the sheer number of "experts" who picked Boston betting lines still favored the Warriors.
ESPN should be boycotted for giving this clown a platform to air his personal beef with players who has dissed him. He thinks any and everyone should believe him right. Perkins need to be let go!
Why do so many talking heads keep bringing up the 80's or 90's where fighting, shoving were so prevalent? Those do not define talent and skill. They define hooliganism. They disguise the lack of talent. Sure if you shove a guy away and get a free shot at the basket, you can bloat your score up. Sure, you can be completely out of shape and still throw a punch. My question is how many of those players of old would survive in TODAY's NBA where skills and talent and perseverance and physical conditioning are paramount? Now you can not simply bully your way to the basket, you have to run complex plays. You have to shoot from the 3 point line. You have to switch and hustle on defense. Probably some of those old timers wouldn't even qualify to be drafted nowadays.
Perkins picked against the Warriors in every series except the Dallas one. And he picked against GSW in every game against Boston. He basically picked a 6 game sweep for Boston, lol.
Nice video! I see you a up and comer in the RU-vid creator department. As long as you have rights to all these clips, you going places. Great work. Imma subscribe.
Kendrick perkins does not even analyze all he does is Talk bad to the team and its all STAR when they lose a game instead of telling us what that team needs to do and what they should do n defense but nopppe he jsut picked on ppl that is already down. i like Draymond and JJ they tell us good basketball they tell us okay this player need to do something to get better and they tell us why they are acting like that etc etc not this Perkinz picking on players that are already down cuz they lost 1 game, thats fuck up.
I can’t even stand listening to Perk. He’s always talking so tough like he’s a bad ass-the mans can’t even get out of a tv segment without wheezing his way through it…
cedric maxwell seems to forget that there was a very similar player to draymond green in the 80's/90's... his name was dennis rodman. whole lot of the same antics. he needs to stop acting like this is a new thing. bruce bowen did the same things before draymond as well (though bowen was dirty as hell always getting under shooters feet so they couldn't land. that pop complained about zaza doing that when he had bowen on his team and praised him as a good defender was hypocrisy at it's finest. lost a lot of respect for pop over that one.)
Kendrick was just retired for 5 years and gained so much weight already. I couldn’t even recognize him at all. Stopping the trash talks and getting up for more exercise.
Perks envy steph,dray,klay becoz their making millions per year,,,when they retire they can enjoy their life to the fullest... Perks is a shame and a clown 🤡!!
Kendrick Perkins is a guy who's deeply insecure about the fact he has a room temperature IQ. So he goes way overboard in overcompensating, trying to make himself appear as more intelligent than he is. Like everyone who engages in that type of behavior, he constantly finds himself embroiled in stupid, needlessly combative situations.
6:32 NOT CHAMPIONSHIP INDICATORS!! Being a "bad FT shooter" didn't stop Shaq from winning NOT leading the league in scoring never stopped Duncan from winning titles Harden averaged 30+ - how many rings he got?!? Russ averaged a GOD DAMN triple double... If memory serves, BROOKLYN were the opening day favourites to win it all...
Also the disrespect to Magic is sickening. Magic went to the Finals 9 times in 12 years. Won 5 rings and retired as the all time assist leader. Not to mention him and Bird revived the NBA. To say Curry is better PG than Magic is ridiculous. Curry is not even a true PG and he himself admits that.
Oh man, you did good right up to saying Draymond "does some things that are rather dirty." You are wrong. You are also wrong about the ejection issue. It's why LeBron doesn't foul out. People pay money to see stars, not reserves. But you are young. Mostly, I like your videos. Keep it up.
DAYUUM. . . . . . . . Perk has been out of the League for just a little over 3 years, and at (5:52), he didn't waste any time BLOWING himself up, did he?
This finals MVP thing with Steph Curry is really wrong. Nothing against Andre Iguodola, but he averaged 16.3ppg, 3.3rpg and 3apg in the 2015 finals when he won finals MVP while Steph Curry led the team with 26ppg, 5.2rpg and 6.3apg. Sorry, but in my mind he did lead a team to an NBA Championship but simply did not get his fair recognition because of a poor subjective MVP selection system.
Perkins and LeBron were AAU teamates when they were like 12 I could be wrong some young age like that though..so as you can see if you go back he just parrots whatever lebron says and tries to discredit anyone that can hurt lebrons legacy..he will never ever go against him..didn't he say the Lakers were gonna 70 games
"Draymond should've been ejected twice in that series" Good lord, the softness of today's NBA. Ejected for what? Having his legs on someone?! LMAO. You don't seriously think that's "dirty", do you? Embarrassing
Seems like all the “new media” does is criticize, call out people, and spread negativity. I haven’t heard much talk about X’s and O’s. Sounds a lot like the old media to me🤷♂️
To be fair, Dray and Perk are just a pair of veteran members from bball forums like realgm or reddit arguing with each other. Yeah Perk is a bit dumber Dray is a bit more aggressive but at the end it should not be causing strong emotions or strong interest, two guys are having fun, who cares. You can tell one of them to shut up, you can tell it to both, you can call them clowns or ignore them, whatever. (You can ever cheer for one side or another lol) Ah, forgot one thing. Dray should call himself "Same Media" not "New" :)
Draymond was right when he said Perkins was an idiot when he said Warriors won’t be able to come back after losing the first game to Celtics. Perkins is shallow and made a lot of flaws with his statements. I thought he should had been fined when he said he wished Lebron get injured during the WC finals against Celtics. When Perkins said Westbrook was the greatest Thunder player, I don’t think so. Definitely it’s Durant. I don’t know why ESPN continue to hire this senselessly guy. Draymond was correct in saying Perkins should shut up. Lots of people don’t believe what he says. He doesn’t have credibility.
