Analyzing the Bears Offense with Tyson Bagent vs Vikings 

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@@knowledgeuntamed9177 I will reach out!!

It's pronounced "Baygent" unless his mom is wrong.

Tyson BAYgent

@@tjizzle8155 yeah!

Bears have some, probably not perfect options at center with Kramer and Feeney, both played center. Whitehair is terrible and Patrick is not much better!

@@dhaddine5472 #65 is terrible. Fixed it for ya! He needs to retire.

​@@snowdenneill6835Since they just activated Kramer from IR I expect him to get a shot at starting if Whitehair keeps screwing up snapping. Might as well find out what he can do. Then you would know whether you need to get a center.

6 was trash. 3 screens in a row

Getsy sucks. If Bagent is successful, it will be inspite of Getsy, not because of him. 😢

Getsy is the problem

I said this for sure he gets the ball out fast

@@chosenone3119did you watch the video bruh? Casual football spectator

Really? I thought it was amazing especially that double coverage throw but he’s got plenty of work to do

If Bagent does great on Sunday then awesome, all credit to him. But it doesn’t matter what QB the Bears use if their o-line is utter shit.

​@@SpiralSine6I say our offensive line is good they gave Fields an average of "6 seconds" on most plays.

He doesn't need to "light up the scoreboard" it's about winning games.

@@threezysworld8089 u win games by putting up points. Otherwise you can easily win with fields then. If u can find a competent coach who knows what he’s doing on defense.

Right, & to save their jobs, you'd think that these coaches would _KNOW_ this. Yet ownership hasn't pressured them to start Bagent have they? So winning isn't a priority. What then is? Even if tanking was, they couldn't possibly be paying ALL the players to tank their own careers & future millions. What's going O|N here? Here's my current theory about _ALL_ the problems with this team. The last nail in the coffin was that someone pointed out that Bagent threw to the Wrong Receiver on a Stick Route. Briefly, the concept is you stack 3 receivers, send one deep & this draws a defender away so one of the others is open. You Never Throw To the deep receiver because they Will Be Blocked & Bagent didn't know this. Why? It took you 8 seconds to _read this_ right? Less to explain. So he didn't know this because none of the Bears' *coaches* know this. I'll explain. Ever see a lame comedy where someone BSs their way into a position they're under-qualified for & they extend the charade by spewing some correct jargon? That's what I think 'Flus & Getsy at least *have* to be. There's too much evidence of this. Neither of these guys have the ability to focus on a Second Facet of a play or scheme. The Lions run well because they pull a guard then send someone to fill in the gap left by it. The Bears pull a guard but *don't* fill that gap. These guys can't think of both. When they got D. J. Moore they forgot that Fields could run because _these coaches_ couldn't think of long passes _AND_ run. Then Fields had one good preseason game where due to YAC Moore & Herbert scored TDs & they thought "Hmm, screen passes" & couldn't also think of _long_ passes. & these guys can't _explain_ Stick Route _AND_ remember what it's called. So every play they call, they don't know how to execute because that is a separate facet to them. Show me any facet of their offense that doesn't seem like they forgot to tell someone something essential for executing the play. "Justin, go through your reads" isn't "these are where your WRs should come out." _That's WHY_ there are No Anticipation throws. Bagent _looks like_ he throws those but it's obvious he's guessing as to where the receivers will be. These guys do not know how to execute anything. So they can't make the offense work. At all. They're calling plays & never explaining what they want anyone to do on them.

If u think Tyson can be really good imagine fields if this line could clean things up. Oh wait no need to imagine when fields had a clean line he tied the record for most completions in a row and threw for over 300 yards. Crazy how a competent o line can make a qb look elite

@@brandonnorris5996fields has been in the league for 3 yrs and his fan girls can only bring up 2 games he played decent in against 2 of the worst teams

Fields is not our guy sadly he can’t read defenses I’m still a fan of the guy very humble and hard worker but he won’t work for bears organization I like Tyson a lot and feel he can do good let’s see how he does against max crosby

@@brandonnorris5996 Fields has better physical tools and can run fast that’s about it.

@@juanabundis2646 nobody can be that guy under this offense he had 2 years with no receivers that could get open and shitty o line idc if u brought Tom Brady to the bears there’s not much you can do. If reading a defense is his problem I’m not worried he’s young and with more experience and a o line that could give him enough time to process what’s going on he’d be elite I think bears fans are going to be extremely disappointed to see fields leaves because there’s no doubt in my mind that on a better team he would be a top qb Draft a qb next year and nothing will change if there’s not more talent brought in to protect the qb. In fields last two games before he got hurt he showed he had no problem reading defenses when he had time but once the rush gets to a qb especially early on in a game it gets to them and they become a shell of themselves and that’s for any qb. Now imagine consistently getting pressure every game and never having a stable o line for three years what that would to to any player

Me too! I think he can great. Bears will regret if they ever let him go. I sense that Belichick wants him, maybe we get Bill to come to the 🐻s.

I see an undrafted Div II QB with a noodle arm

​​@@rkymtnchi503You don't need a strong arm to be a serviceable QB let alone a great one. You must've just started watching 🏈 😂😂😂

@@jamesgunther4858 you sound delusional AF

@@randomyoutuber7898 yeah, you're right. Having a strong arm is useless as a QB lmao...you must be a ballet dancer

There was no juice on any of his throws. And he's not reading the defense like ppl think. He's just going with his first read

A lot of them are Fields fanboys who don't get football or see what can work with this offense.

I agree hes got a better arm than people r saying tbh.. Now does he have a great arm.. No. But its good enough to get it done.. Justin fields is just too damn dumb to b a good qb

@@antmyrick2063he did better reading than Justin who’s just a fuckin dummy

@TheSands83 I mean, he's probably not dumb he's just not a QB. He hesitates and holds the ball too long. You can't blame the offensive line. That's all Fields.

I remember that. Mckown takes them to the playoffs, and they put cutler and and they lose.

So tired of hearing fields running when and the last time that mattered? Last year before teams schemed for it. I agree fields has more total arm strength but I don’t thinks it’s “waay” and Tyson can juice some throws better than it seemed in this game if you watch other throws from him. I think a few throws he didn't have the laces either as the snaps were r worded

Justin is too dumb to play qb

@@jamesnelson8469 Agree all the way! The kid definitely can throw good anticipation throws. He seems to be a bit of a slinger, but he appears to just need some reps and experience what every day NFL defenses tendencies are to be better prepared each start he gets!

go ahead and be curious fields had 3 years Bagent 4 drives, and people want to fully analyze his play already! I'm sick of you arm chair annalists that think you can pass judgment this early! He showed you a better quarterback mentality in 4 drives then fields has in 3 years! REMEMBER JAY CUTLER, DUCKING EATING YARDS SWOLLENING THE BALL, HAVING THE BALL STRIPPED FROM HIN FROM BEHIND OVER AND OVER! My case rests give this kid a fighting chance! give him a year and we will be glad we did!

No he doesn't Fields has to step into every throw to be accurate, Bagent barely sets his feet, he has an arm.

Too be honest, as bad as a couple of these linemen are, just getting a couple serviceable guys from around the league that are AVERAGE would be game changing for Bears QB's IMO!

@@joeanderson444 right? Just having guys who can do their job would be amazing. Instead we have linemen who look like high schoolers. And that get down to coaching too. Players look like they have no clue what they are doing or where they should be. What kind of offense is this garbage? If its the players and not the scheme then why aren’t they practicing it more? I heard whitehair didn’t even practice snaps that much. Wtf? He had 10 days to practice!! Where is this HITS principle that they were preaching during off season. I am beginning to suspect that coaches are very soft when it comes to practice and training

Poles hired the head coach, a defensive minded coach to develope JT.. hes not doing a horrible job but also hes not doing great.

What center did he sign or draft this past year? How is the oline and dline? How are the bears doing against the north? Poles is certainly at fault. As is coaching.

​@@AaronVimmer-kn1qnHe was only able to hire 1 of 3 coaches. So he really wasn't able to hire who he wanted. Just the best of the three given.

Who hired the coaches?

@@mitchparizanski471McCaskey, Polian, and 3 other people on a committee.

I think the happy feet came from the anxiety of dealing with that nasty high snap from center. Its a domino effect for sure

Yeah, I agree. Mooney is one of those guys that seems to take too long to get separation. He supposedly ran a 4.38 40-YD, but those pads must be weighing the little guy down. Obviously, receivers like that require an offensive line that can give the QB 3 seconds to throw to because they're waiting on them to create separation after 25 yards! SAD!

Yeah

ITS BOTH!

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Sense a win Sunday vs. LV Raiders. QB Tyson Bagent should loosen-up making things look easier to put up points. Chicago ML + 133 at Soldiers Field

Tbag lmfaoooo prison break aside that would be hilarious that could be his touchdown celebration

He shouldn't have thrown to him at all =(. There was a touchdown pass available on the right sideline, top of the screen. Defenders both dropped the receiver when they saw Bagent glance left. Receiver even waved his arm to try and get Bagent's attention, but he didn't glance back to the right again. Still, nothing to lose, kinda excited to see what happens. Could remind me of when Cutler got hurt and Josh McCown came in and won multiple games in a row. I thought they should have just kept McCown in while he was hot, even though Cutler got healed up.

​@@jamesnelson8469tbag was a fucking monster

@@Mornech10 in that situation if a qb sees an open man for a 25-30 yard chunk they taking it and not looking back to the right on the off chance there’s something there

@Mornech10 the great qbs have a sixth sense for broken or won routes. In this case I don’t have a problem with him throwing to WR1 who was open.

I agree. No matter who the QB is, you are putting them in the hole from the start if they don't know where the snap is going to be...left/right/high left/high right/low right etc.

What gets me is people will say he wasn't playing against top level defenses in college. But they ignore the fact that he was also playing with offensive talent that wasn't top level talent. He did have a few Division 1 offers coming out of high school but didn't like the fit. He had some also try to get him to transfer as a srnior.

The coaching is WAY better imo

Brian Flores > Eberflus

It’s the OC not Eberflus

@@The_Football_Scout we gotta start finishing offensive drives in order to win football games

So has your mom

He literally gave up a strip sack for 6 points

@@marktaylor5084 Right before in that play he dodged 2 other sacks

@@flamingspikes9568 and how many sacks have Fields avoided its a reason he had over 1k rushing last year..you put Bagent in this offense for whole games and you about to see what has always been there a terrible Oline

​@@marktaylor5084it will be a very telling issue to see what the real issue is. If Baget is successful then it's on Justin but if the same story it's the coaching and O-Line. Sunday should be interesting

@@marktaylor5084 First off, have better grammar so it's easier to read your point. Second, I only said he was good at dodging sacks. A bad Oline doesn't take away from his skills, just like having bad WRs doesn't mean a QB isn't a good passer (not saying it's the Bears, they have 2 solid starters in Moore and Mooney)

The prototypical middle-tier NFL QB. Wouldn’t be easy for a team to win it all with him, but not impossible. When’s the last time we had at least one of those - Smokin Jay Cutler? 🐻 😐

@@jaytravtulsa1 Yeah but really only Stafford was comparable but kirks teams were way better than Stafford's lions.. I feel like with his flaws of being unable to flip his hips to make throws, make throws on the run, no pocket awareness, his immobility in the pocket, even though he's so very accurate, I don't think you can win vs the defenses you'll need to beat with those flaws. And he just is a different player when he has the lead, he hasn't beat a team by 17 points sinc 2019

yup getsy hates first and second downs that's too easy real OC's play only with third and 11s....

Wasn’t Fields trying to throw on the very 1st play when he got sacked?

I gotta give this kid a little credit considering all that shit. Who could be successful playing qb when you gotta worry about every snap and free running defender before you even get the ball?

Fields will never underthrow a qb like trubisky or bagent. Never. His arm talent and deep ball is unquestioned and nor is his athleticism and ability to avoid sacks. Bagent however does all the easy things for a normal thwt fields can’t do. Process quickly and get ball out fast. However he has the deep ball ability of Mike Glennon and can’t even hit over 30 yards. Expect lots of short throws and lots of runs tmr