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Andre Galvao x Clark Gracie: 2012 Abu Dhabi Trials (San Diego) 

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83kg: Andre Galvão x Clark Gracie

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@leonardoabade3387
@leonardoabade3387 9 лет назад
Chute ridículo, digno de desclassificação.
@sylverg5323
@sylverg5323 10 лет назад
I see a lot of people coming up with the excuse that it was a "judo trip". like hell it was. Find me a judo match where a competitor does a "trip" like this one. You could get disqualified for it! This was a kick. He knows it, his opponent knows it, the crowd knows it. Perhaps you should just call what it is instead of trying to make excuses for him.
@luizmilky9687
@luizmilky9687 10 лет назад
Wrong pal... technically it was a judo trip, doesn't matter if he did carried by anger and did it agressively.... competitive jiu jitsu is agressive... contact sport... need balls and stomach to compete at this level both are professional, and sure didn't take it personally by the way, i would be pissed as well if someone crossed a leg on my knee just like clark did to galvão, right before the "kick"... those guys have injuries to their bones... his emotion was justified peace
@willgoat7270
@willgoat7270 6 лет назад
+Luiz Milky Exactly, Kawasaki sets up his yoko tomoe nage with the exact "kick".
@Kinosis79
@Kinosis79 2 года назад
Brazilians will excuse their boy no matter what he does. He got owned by Gordon this weekend and had a laundry list of excuses as always.
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 лет назад
so galvao defends the calf slicer by pulling clark's leg across his midesection so it looks like clark is reaping the knee. then he gets all pissy cuz the ref knows it's b.s. no wonder galvao is so popular
@jiujitero18
@jiujitero18 12 лет назад
Falta de profissionalismo da parte do André Galvão. Admiro-me que seja um lutador renomado com essa atitude. ISSO NÃO É MUAY THAI !
@adrianmonk7878
@adrianmonk7878 8 лет назад
I love how the ref just ragdoll pulls'em at the end
@TissDiss
@TissDiss 8 лет назад
Galvao would be easier for guys to beat if he wasn't full of steroids and every performance enhancing substance he can find.
@OzarkFightCrazy
@OzarkFightCrazy 11 лет назад
Galvao is a poor example of a Christian. When he acts that way, he actually pushes people further away from Christ rather than drawing them nearer to him. Every match he does this crap! Matt 6: 5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
@mosesjiujitsu
@mosesjiujitsu 12 лет назад
wow why are people hating on andre? wether he kicked him or aggressively tried to foot sweep him (which is what happened), he had the right to be pissed off cause clark was obviously reaping his knee...and to people who dont like the rule and say its stupid because people wont get injured or whatever, its still illegal and rules are rules....dont like it? then dont compete in or watch IBJJF tournaments, or dont bitch about it one. oss
@rafa5150
@rafa5150 12 лет назад
@kermitthefrayer Because this is a sport and as such it has rules. Given the fact that this sport entails intense physical contact, several rules are put into place to avoid people from getting hurt. Reaping the knee has a high probability of injuring the opponents knee and causing long term damage; thus, it is not allowed. Just watch some of Palhares' UFC fights and you'll get an idea of what could take place (although in the latter case, its heel hooks, not knee reaping).
@paulfarley9055
@paulfarley9055 5 лет назад
How many points for the kick....? Asking for a non Brazilian ibjjf competitor ....
@Ground_Speed
@Ground_Speed 12 лет назад
its just the rule, no slam in bjj or grappling (depending which grappling event you enter). i think slaming someone can hurt him badly, guy can even end up in a wheelchair or get paralysing if you got hit on the head or ur spine can be severely damaged. In BJJ they consider this option that is why no slam in this sport.
@26gutshot
@26gutshot 12 лет назад
ok then what kind of kick was it? It was a sweeping motion using the inside of his foot. I'm not a big karate guy but I don't know too many kicks like that. And Clark didn't know anything was wrong. He thought Galvao was disengaging and he got up and was trying to take him down. Not to mention they dapped hands right after that, so he must of not been to upset.
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Nao esqueci nao... e tenho bem mais que 15 anos de artes marciais e sou mais velho do que voce pressupos (agora vai falar que eu to mentindo a idade tambem?). Mas, aqui no Rio de Janeiro, as pessoas tem vida social, tem trabalho, tem familia... de maneira que treinam, param, voltam... ou por acaso pra voce todo mundo que comeca a treinar tem que faze-lo ate morrer ininterruptamente? E ninguem aqui tambem disse em querer parecer fodao, fodao eh o Roger, que ganhou 10 mundiais...
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Cara... o Andre ate pode ser mais experiente que o Clark. Mas aquele chute foi desnecessario, foi com raiva. Nao eh a primeira vez que ele perde a cabeca assim, e se eu fosse o juiz, tinha parado a luta ali mesmo e desclassificado ele. Ele usou uma queda de judo como desculpa pra chutar o cara, por causa da chave de tornozelo (que eu diga-se de passagem tambem nao concordo, visto a lesao que pode causar). No mais, otima luta... claro exemplo de jiujitsu forca contra jiujitsu tecnica. Abs!
@PaoloCaglioLMT
@PaoloCaglioLMT 12 лет назад
I just recovered from ACL reaping after 12 months from a technique like this, done to me by an asshole blue belt... well, I think Clark realized Andre was in a dangerous position, in fact he didn't force down on his knee. Galvao's behaviour wasn't professional at all in my opinion.
@tiboal22
@tiboal22 12 лет назад
O cara tava cruzando, torcendo o joelho do Deco, o juiz tinha q ter agido, O Gracie foi imprudente e ainda queria ter razão ... Lógico que a reação do Deco foi péssima, mas só estando lá pra poder julgar. Muita coisa em jogo, passagem para o mundial e uma possibilidade de se machucar. O veneno sobe rapidinho pra cabeça. Oss
@dbartyzel
@dbartyzel 12 лет назад
Everyone can see it was a low round kick, or leg kick, but he did it in a way that it would look like foot sweep. Im not saying Clark was pissed, seems like he thought it was kinda funny, but Andre was obviously pissed about the knee reap.
@japtbjj21
@japtbjj21 12 лет назад
Just so u know when wearing a gi you have to worry about 100 more sweep possibilities and not to mention the choke options, plus you can't just sweat yourself out of a position. Anyway the best grapplers in the world are gi practitioners so...
@26gutshot
@26gutshot 12 лет назад
Galvao wasn't "kicking" Clark he was trying to Judo trip him as Clark was advancing. I didn't see any disrespect. They got up and Clark was coming at him. I think some mis communication, yes. Galvao was trying to take him down.
@Chalito5
@Chalito5 12 лет назад
The knee reap rule is out of date. I believe if you're a blackbelt you should be allowed to attack the knee using the reap. It's a combat sport, just as bad injuries can be sustained by an armbar or falling wrong on your knee.
@galho96
@galho96 12 лет назад
Pra quem prestar atencao, vai ver que o Galvao perde o angulo e ele mesmo se poe na posicao de "reaping the knee". Se jogou no chao e pediu falta. Soh na malandragem, haha.. Fez a mesma coisa com o Toquinho no ADCC. Mas, eh isso ai, faz parte do show. Ja o chute, sao outros quinhentos..
@olivachumbo
@olivachumbo 12 лет назад
Esse André tá levando tud oque é campeonato, mas eu não gosto do jiu-jitsu dele, pois é quadrado e de muita força. Não consigo enxergar técnica. O Clark perdeu, mas consegui ver mais fluência técnica. Mas as regras do jiu-jitsu de hoje é isso. Então, parabéns André.
@belizario1979
@belizario1979 12 лет назад
Um caso a parte. O que me diz de Rickson, Royce, Renzo, Raif, Roger, Kron, Kyra... sem contar o Clark que deve tah uns dez kgs mais leve que esse dopado ai di video. Obrigação desse merda era finalizar. Obs.: se tivesse m ais dois minutos de luta o Rodoldo teria finalizado. oss....
@georgereinhardt7481
@georgereinhardt7481 12 лет назад
You can't reap the persons knee...the problem is any type of leg attack, there is VERY little time to tap before you get seriously hurt. That's why in most tourneys, leg locks of any kind are illegal.
@escolabragantina
@escolabragantina 12 лет назад
Sou fanzaço do André, mas na minha opinião, ele deveria ser desclassificado. Aos 4:48 minutos de luta ele chute o Clark e a regra é clara, golpes traumaticos são proibidos! Que feio! Para ele e para o juiz que fez de conta que não viu!
@belizario1979
@belizario1979 12 лет назад
Galvão para de se dopar. afinal... todo mundo sabe que vc usa neh. pelo contrario, mostra na net um anti-doping dia antes do tornei, que ai sim a gente te chama de campeão. Gracie é treino e alimentação. oss
@lorimullici
@lorimullici 12 лет назад
O Clark tava pegando uma chave de joelho por fora, o que é proibido !, se ele estivesse com a perna por dentro (guarda 50-50) não teria problemas, o juíz teria que ter parado a luta, por isso o André Galvão ficou bravo.
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Judo 2 years, Jiu Jitsu 13 years. IN BRAZIL. Yeah, while its normal to lose timing, due to the circumstance he did it, @shahmirdh made a good point, keyboard expert.
@mflsm
@mflsm 12 лет назад
@kermitthefrayer you are watching a competition within a Sport, not a street fight. One has rules, belts and weight classes the other does not. Think first, then comment...
@kermitthefrayer
@kermitthefrayer 12 лет назад
They are both black belt right?!?! Black belts should have the skills to defend any attack correct? Then why is it illegal if my leg passes your hip in x y or z position?
@renatonakano2829
@renatonakano2829 5 лет назад
Aí aí no q estamos presenciando ultimamente, em um futuro não distante, terão q colocar só árbitros digamos um pouco mais raiz, tipo ala Tanquinho, Marcos Ruas, para ver se pelo menos, uma vez na vida, veremos alguém ter peito de desclassificar um faixa preta de nome, galera ai na verdade ta mto artista!!!
@georgereinhardt7481
@georgereinhardt7481 12 лет назад
Don't even waste your time explaining to this person why it's illegal. They obviously have no idea of what they are doing and could happen.
@dbartyzel
@dbartyzel 12 лет назад
Right, and the building was will with Jiu jitsu guys that cant tell the difference? That was a kick given plausible deniability as a judo sweep.
@Subwrestler1
@Subwrestler1 12 лет назад
its also illegal to slam but in a street fight their are slams . also in olympic wrestling their are slams why not in bbj or grappling
@Johnykitu
@Johnykitu 12 лет назад
Because this is a sport, and this position is the most likely to cause serious knee injury to the athlete, ending careers for nothing.
@RVGENomini
@RVGENomini 12 лет назад
Yeah you do, but you could also just grab the guys gi to hold on when you're being outclassed like Gracie did. It isn't entertaining.
@morgchem
@morgchem 12 лет назад
Was it a heel hook attempt that agitated Galvao? Pretty unsportsmanlike especially from such a big Jiu Jitsu player.
@DOMDZ90911
@DOMDZ90911 12 лет назад
leg locks are not illegal. they're just dangerous. and nobody wants to be sidelined for a year the same in any sport.
@kanguesso
@kanguesso 12 лет назад
Galvao acted like such an idiot kicking the guy in a BJJ match. There are ways to address an issue and ways not to.
@PauloBerni699
@PauloBerni699 12 лет назад
I like Galvao, but that was crappy sportsmanship to react like that. Very dissapointing. Clark is the bigger man.
@jiujitsurub
@jiujitsurub 12 лет назад
because you people get hurt too much in tournaments before using these positions. they banned it...
@RazeenRed
@RazeenRed Год назад
First time I’ve watched a full Clark match and I’m impressed with the styles
@jiujitsulover1
@jiujitsulover1 11 лет назад
Man i used to have alot of respect for galvao it would appear he always throws his toys Out of the Pram when things arent going his way or makes a comment that males him look like a spoilt child
@uchimataleao
@uchimataleao 12 лет назад
Yeah, there is a 1 in 600,000 chance of an injury via knee reap. Thank god it is illegal.
@saltyseaweed
@saltyseaweed 12 лет назад
No one has the skills to defend absolutely any attack. We are all humans, after all.
@delarosaali82
@delarosaali82 12 лет назад
The knee reap is too dangerous. But id like to see more sportsmanship on galvaos part.
@furiabjj
@furiabjj 12 лет назад
O Andre e muito mais experiente q o Clarck, aquele chute foi so pra dizer: vc ainda tem muito q aprender. Respeitando as abilidades do Clarck e claro! Andre has a lot more experience that Clarck, that kick was just to say: Brother u have a lot more to learn. Respecting Clarck skills of course..
@felipeguaraciaba
@felipeguaraciaba 12 лет назад
nenhuma punição pelo chute? no negative points or disqualification for the kick?
@dlogic22
@dlogic22 12 лет назад
In Clarks defense everytime i've had knee reaping explained to me, it is when the foot cross the hip and the leg is all the way across, technically i do not believe that was knee reaping that we saw. And also POOR sportsmanship to Galvao, SHAME on you as a black belt you need to have more class then that.
@Kinosis79
@Kinosis79 2 года назад
Andre hasn't changed at all. He was palm striking Gordon in their ADCC match.
@iamjason9240
@iamjason9240 12 лет назад
maybe i should try some leg kicks at bjj tournament now.
@mikkiwilliams8930
@mikkiwilliams8930 8 лет назад
I just seen a miss sweep by galavo
@Thensolomonsaid
@Thensolomonsaid 12 лет назад
Jumping into guard should be a point deduction.
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 12 лет назад
It happened to three guys I train with this year, not even doing leg locks, and I was one of them. Torn ACL and four months without jiu-jitsu... just competed at World's for the first time in nine months. When you train hard sometimes it just happens.
@FartJokeResearchLabs
@FartJokeResearchLabs 12 лет назад
Footsweeps occur when your foot stays on the ground through the movement, hence the word SWEEP. That was an inside leg kick disguised as a foot sweep because Galvao gets dirty like that. Footsweeps tend not to sound like a bat hitting a heavybag.
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 лет назад
Galvao finishes the majority of his opponents... he was collecting limbs and necks all day at Pan Ams and Worlds this year... but when you get to the final rounds and face opponents like Clark it's difficult to get the submission.
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Ue, ir em todas as redes sociais de uma pessoa sem conhece-la nao eh stalkear? Mudou de nome? Mas cara, ser azul tem algum problema? Sempre achei que nao. Se voce tem tanto problema com a faixa azul, entao a gracie-barra-sei-la-onde-mas-nao-na-barra-de-verdade ta ensinando filosofia da arte suave errado. E nunca falei de faixa pra ser mentiroso... por acaso falei que sou faixa vermelha 9 grau? Acho que nao... entao inventa outra coisa pra querer me xingar, pq essa nao funcionou...
@birdman285
@birdman285 12 лет назад
if it was no gi it wud be another story
@ElephantRage
@ElephantRage 9 лет назад
if you play it in slo-mo you see it's a sweep and not a kick since he lands on ryan's leg with his instep and not with the shit or top of the foot. It was indeed a nasty one, out of anger but not worth a DQ imho. I use foot sweep a lot from the the single leg and quite often people complain: had they done dome kickboxing they would be able to tell the difference it feels when you get actually shin kicked....
@todd.orourke
@todd.orourke 8 лет назад
+ElephantRage Who the hell is "Ryan?"
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 лет назад
No problem brother. Check out the Pan Ams highlight I put together... you'll see some of his submissions... I'll have a bunch from Worlds once that highlight is done too.
@SRTOCAIA
@SRTOCAIA 12 лет назад
because twisting knee is illegal coup
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 лет назад
Galvao and Clark are both great athletes and very respectable people. This was a competition not a dinner party.
@cbboiPI
@cbboiPI 12 лет назад
character+bronze > noCharacter+gold
@zukaBJJ
@zukaBJJ 12 лет назад
@sqbronco1 I thought it was more Galvao's fault? because he was in a bear trap but he turned in to make it illegal. Weird that he would get mad like that.
@Theerhino36
@Theerhino36 12 лет назад
Leg kicks are legal now!?!
@gontsimone
@gontsimone 10 лет назад
Dois monstros! Mas o Galvão é foda demais hehe
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 11 лет назад
I know Andre and Clark personally... They are both San Diego guys and have a lot of respect for one another. This was nothing more than emotion. Andre is a really good person and I'm sure Clark would agree.
@vinniramos
@vinniramos 11 лет назад
well he didn't ...
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Na verdade, como disse o Rickson qdo perguntaram pra ele pq ele TAMBEM NAO tem orelha deformada, ele falou "quem nao toma pressao no rola, nao tem". ;-) Alias... nenhum dos filhos do Helio tem orelha deformada... Jogo jogos como qualquer cara normal, e sou musico como qualquer pessoa que tem vida social ;-) E se vc treina numa academia Gracie no BR, se for no epicentro, no RJ, com o Rolker, entao ja deve ter rolado comigo... ou treina numa academia gracie no BR la no interior de Rondonia? ;-)
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Tem data das fotos? Serio? Vlwww STALKER!!! Tu deve ta amarradao em mim mesmo, hein? Me pesquisando em todas as redes sociais... da like nas minhas fotos tbm! Boa sorte na sua carreira tbm expert-de-sei-la-onde-no-meio-do-deserto-que-fala-que-eh-barra-mas-a-barra-de-verdade-fica-a-1000-km-de-distancia HAHA!
@jamiegee123
@jamiegee123 12 лет назад
andre is a badass
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
Pois eh, cara... so que eu comecei na Gracie Barra tambem. BARRA DA TIJUCA. La onde tudo comecou, na Olegario Maciel, onde sai do treino e vai tomar acai na praia. E nao essa coisa de Gracie Barra-Sei-La-Onde-No-Distrito-Federal-no-meio-do-deserto ;-) Gracie Barra tem em todo lugar agora, ne? Epoca que Carlinhos tava la, Roleta, Feitosa, Rolles, Igor... so fera. E eu toco piano tambem, obrigado por assistir meus videos. Da like nos videos depois de ver!
@olivachumbo
@olivachumbo 12 лет назад
nervosinho André.
@YUCAJIUJITSU
@YUCAJIUJITSU 12 лет назад
Now we shoul train some muay thay to be ready just in case XD
@TopControlBJJ
@TopControlBJJ 12 лет назад
I would disagree slightly and say that heel hooks provide very little time to attack but achillies locks and even toe holds are no more dangerous than other, upper body submissions.
@physicalactivityscience1821
@physicalactivityscience1821 8 лет назад
that's not even close to a foot sweep, no "okuri-ashi-harai" nor "ko-uchi-gari".... that's a plain kick! Not even in olympic Judo (which much more violent leg play) you see telegraphed leg kicks like that, that was just thrown like a whip. That player should be penalized, in Judo he would be for sure.
@luizmilky9687
@luizmilky9687 10 лет назад
unsensibled: hold back your words... Galvão is a very emotional athele, but a very professional one, as well... the guy lives for that, it's his world... i'm sure he is a nice guy, but those are fighters... perhaps you should study more about BJJ and how it was in the begining, in Para, Rio .... both athletes deserve respect, not judges.... you guys are so cheerleaders, give me a break just enjoy the awesome fight and learn from it peace
@wildcat31772
@wildcat31772 11 лет назад
I haven't watched much of Galvao. But does he play every match for points and not really go for submissions? He tried a collar choke for about 8 seconds but beyond that he didn't really try to finish Clark. Also, are you surprised he's got a crap attitude. Even at Metamorsis after he couldn't do anything to Ryron he bitched and bashed it cuz there weren't any points.
@photojoebill1989
@photojoebill1989 12 лет назад
@kermitthefrayer Echoing what KnockemOrLockem said, Reaping the Knee = torn ACL or MCL. In some cases this could mean no BJJ for the rest of one's life.
@AMastrange
@AMastrange 6 лет назад
Qualquer Gracie é temível, mas o Galvão é um mestre, pra ficar parelha teria que ser Renzo, Royller... Claro que Roger não dá né? Aí é papo de Buchecha, Rodolpho, aquele último nível, apenas um acima do Golvão! Mas cá entre nós, o Galvão formou um último nível, o Rafael! Um daqueles mutantes do nível da Fênix! KKK Claro, Galvão leva perigo para qualquer um deles!
@OzarkFightCrazy
@OzarkFightCrazy 11 лет назад
Tell that to Galvao, who brings up religion in every post-fight interview, but moments before shows horrible sportsmanship on the mat. He is the one who promotes Christianity from the mat, not me. I don't expect athletes to participate in religion when fighting. I expect people who promote Christianity to try to act like a christian when all eyes are on them.
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 лет назад
y meander in such bullshit argument.clearly it was more than just a foot sweep as indicated by the crowd & the people watching the video.it's also not the first time he has acted petty and insecure. wisdom and moral fiber are indicative of how one handles himself. a master will influence how his student carries himself regardless of whether it should or should not happen. no doubt galvao is amazing @ what he does & seems like he's fun guy from interviews, but his pride issues show in competition
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 лет назад
the key word is "should". he didn't say they have to. so to rephrase, you don't think black belts should exhibit wisdom and moral fiber? they shouldn't be thinking of their young students who pay their bills and aspire to be like them? they should act petty and insecure?
@RaffyCarvalheira
@RaffyCarvalheira 12 лет назад
thats what i thought!!!!!!!!! Guy has a pattern of losing it whenever the situation goes out of control for him.
@dougbit
@dougbit 11 лет назад
A posição caiu naquela cruzada por acaso, num giro que eles foram dar. O Gracie já estava com a perna fechando o triangulo quando o André reclamou. Nem tinha pq ficar tão puto daquele jeito
@Naturobiose
@Naturobiose 11 лет назад
O Clark cruzou para dentro, e o Andre reclamou, e fez aquele papelão. O pior de tudo foi a falta de pulso do Juiz, se isso acontece a 10 ou 15 anos atras a pancadaria seria generalizada.
@dimecanal
@dimecanal 6 лет назад
i find clark mor technical and galvao more explosive
@machadorenard
@machadorenard 11 лет назад
Nothing justifies the anti-ethical attitude of Galvao as a World Champion. There were children and families at the gym. This is not the message of JJ.
@ribbedtr0jan
@ribbedtr0jan 12 лет назад
San Diego has some awesome BJJ with Galvao, Clark Gracie, and Xande and Saulo Ribeiro. Not to mention Blackhouse and Fabio Santos.
@taffarelsilva542
@taffarelsilva542 10 лет назад
Galvão dominando!
@deadlypalms
@deadlypalms 11 лет назад
Surprised Andre Galvao has gotten as far as he has with such attitude. So much for the 'gentle art'.
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 9 лет назад
Galvao was right pissed about the knee reap. Not the best reaction, but understandable.
@IamJacksColon4
@IamJacksColon4 9 лет назад
illegal submission?
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 9 лет назад
IamJacksColon4 Yeah, not so much a submission though, more of of a position/transition. Technically it's called "reaping the knee". It's usually an automatic DQ. It's really dangerous in gi where the extra friction makes it really difficult to escape before the pressure on the knee becomes injurious. See from @4:30 onward. Notice the pressure on Galvao's knee. He speaks up to the ref about it a couple times and Clark as well. Then he got pissed.
@christ1ian1mas
@christ1ian1mas 9 лет назад
I guess it not really a reap, because clarks foot wasn't going past Andre's body. It was just tied up on his legs
@KnockemOrLockem
@KnockemOrLockem 12 лет назад
well put
@japtbjj21
@japtbjj21 12 лет назад
Touche sir
@Otsego
@Otsego 11 лет назад
Knee reaps are illegal. At least that kicked was thinly veiled as a legal trip.
@drseth00789
@drseth00789 11 лет назад
i'm sorry, if your method of argument is to play stupid, then i don't have anything else to offer
@wannabehendrix
@wannabehendrix 11 лет назад
Two masters at work here. I cannot even fathom the thought processes between these two. Thank you for posting.
@JujuiLuv
@JujuiLuv 12 лет назад
is anyone checking to see if the size on these kimonos are even legal
@xAristaicx
@xAristaicx 12 лет назад
sometimes we just don't control our anger. It happens sometimes you know.
@gregorywilliams4751
@gregorywilliams4751 6 лет назад
I guess if knee reaps are legal then kicks should be as well
@carloshenriquesantos6985
@carloshenriquesantos6985 12 лет назад
alguém pode me explicar pq o André ficou irritado? não entendi nada
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