o unico orgulho que tenho de ser brasileiro é que esses caras " Rodolfo Vieira, Xande Ribeiro" e outros feras como Saulo,Evangelista,cobrinha...também sao brasileiros.depois de Airton Senna meu orgulho é o bjj.
Love to see the show of respect at the end of the match. These two men are top-tier competitors, both want to win so badly. Afterwards though, is time to show you are a man. Much admiration and respect.
Excellent comments. Everyone I knew in judo who gave BJJ a real go, meaning more than just an occasional visit, never returned to regular judo training, myself included. I think most of us came to the same conclusion you wrote in your 100 percent-correct assessment.
I love their style of Jiujitsu: no guard pulling or playing the 50/50 position. Always start the fight standing up and trying to establish a dominant position by throwing and then go to the ground.
Yes, there are such rules in Judo competition, which mainly exist to penalize passivity (note that passivity penalties also apply in BJJ). The leg touching rule is a very recent addition to IJF comp rules and only applies to direct attacks, not counters and combos. And yes, I think guys who are experienced in nagewaza and less expert in newaza will generally not pull guard in BJJ comps. Check out Koji Komuro and Dave and Dan Camarillo who all bring high-level judo into BJJ competitions.
@ericc2 I know that BJJ do includes Judo throws for BJJ, if you're telling me indirectly that BJJ's throws are as competent as Judo's is like saying Judokas should be dominating all these tournaments, if you're telling me that these 2 are not Judokas either that's wrong too, both of them are BJJers and Judokas, they have belts in both martial arts. But no, the Judokas dominate in Judo matches and the BJJ players dominate in these matches, my point is a cross training in Judo and BJJ will result in the BJJer with a stronger take down game. To perform throws like this requires a hell lot of training from Judo, there are many Judo throws in competition which aren't clean either, like drop throws etc etc. It's obvious Both of them cross trains in Judo. Have you watched Xande's video where he Randori with one of Tenri's best Judoka? The reason why both stand up because they know a good throw would get them ontop without having the hassle of passing guard, and this match proves it. That a combination of BJJ, Judo and whatever wrestling they cross trained results in this.
Great match. The proper winner is Xande, but the advantages were given out to liberally to Vieira in those throws. Anyone can see that 5 or 10 seconds more would have meant points for passing the guard for Xande. Still, great match, and my hat's off to both of them.
You might also note that the whole concept of the 'black belt' is an invention of Jigoro Kano's. There is no universal law that means that wearing a black-coloured obi has to mean you're an expert. At the Kodokan (where the 'kuro-obi' originated) achieving the level of shodan (1st degree Black belt) merely signifies proficiency. It's roughly equivalent to a BJJ blue belt. Have you ever studied judo? What level is your bjj out of interest?
linda luta, a forma com que os dois lutaram foi ecepscional, porem, rodolfo ribeiro atualmente é na minha opnião o melhor lutador de jiu-jitsu que há :) ele se destaca entre os meus favoritos, que são: Ramon lemos, andré galvão, RODOLFO VIEIRA e não podendo faltar membros da familia gracie Rickson e mestre Helio Gracie.
good gosh..probably his white belt students that just joined the class and think they are his best friends..."Xande can i take your go home and wash it for you"?
Bonito de vê o Xande rolando, joga justinho, o Rodolfo ganhou por causa das quedas no começo, se tivesse mais 3 minutos o Xande tinha passado a guarda e levado luta!!!
tbh the claim is kind of meaningless if you turtle and end up giving up your back rather than accepting your guard got passed, like many competitors do.
Probably because nagewaza is way harder than newaza! I do both and there can be no doubt that learning ground-fighting is a lot easier and less frustrating than learning to throw. Plus it's hard to find good judo clubs outside Japan. And all that stuff about stalling and illegal grips is while true, doesn't mean jack. All the guys at my gym do that and I throw them around easily.
I've been seeing a lot of stuff lately on the childish bjj judo debate... I take after shinya aoki in this debate... It's your jitsu... I go to a judo school but am a ne waza specialist... I like goin to events like Naga. I end up throwing people around and working ground.. ive been told I fight like a jj ka on the ground and its just what works for me.. but I have a judo stance. And do a lot of throws..
