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Android 12L for Surface Duo 1 and Surface Duo 2 is out! Let's check out what's new.
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@ShadowOfIntent7
@ShadowOfIntent7 Год назад
I hope this ROM will be ported on more devices by the community, it's probably the first Android 12 UI that I genuinely like
Год назад
I have a dream in which this is ported to Lumia devices, converting them to something similar to a "Surface Phone"
@KannexMedia
@KannexMedia Год назад
@ Won't be possible as Android 12 and onwards needs ARMv8 and most Lumia devices only have older ARMv4 to v7. Also same reason why the underground community building Windows 11 for older Lumia devices is at the end of road.
@robertm20
@robertm20 Год назад
@@KannexMedia it is possible, there is lineage os 19 android 12L for the galaxy s3 which also has armv7 and is even older than the lumia 950.
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
@@robertm20 There was the Android4Lumia project back in the days but not sure what happened to it.
@prodbydanai
@prodbydanai Год назад
@@KannexMedia well. The Surface Duo ROM can be based entirely on Lineage OS's open source software.
@on99kfc
@on99kfc Год назад
this make me excited for the duo 3. finally seems to be polished to the point on par with other android phone
@robschertzer
@robschertzer Год назад
I agree! Hopinig Microsoft with update the hardware and then count me in - this is much more polished looking now.
@redpanda3686
@redpanda3686 Год назад
Definitely looks more clean, and more excited if they continue with this line. Hopefully they don't abandon it
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
*sad Windows Phone noise*
@KannexMedia
@KannexMedia Год назад
@@SirFaceFone Windows 10 Mobile and WP8.1 reached end of life in 2018 (after doing basic security updates 2016-2018). No need to cry further and just move on like the rest of us.
@LittleByrdEee
@LittleByrdEee Год назад
They probably will abandon it but it’s got some more time before then I’d bet.
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
@@KannexMedia I know, but mine still works lol
@matthewwhitted9179
@matthewwhitted9179 Год назад
@@LittleByrdEee Yeah that's what they are going to do abandon it
@JayMikeWillingham
@JayMikeWillingham Год назад
Looks the way it was intended since the beginning. Smooth, Polished and Ready for Launch. This build quality is what needs to be released to appeal to the masses but I get why they did when they did it.
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 Год назад
lags after lags.
@jhnadrn07
@jhnadrn07 Год назад
I don’t own a Surface Duo but I think, using Segoe UI font family in Microsoft’s Android rendition can greatly improve the UI and UX as well.
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
Yep, Roboto looks dated. Even Google is using their own font.
@maurovisuals
@maurovisuals Год назад
They could probably redone the blur effects too, windows acrylic and mica looks much better than regular blurring
@erickgarcia7902
@erickgarcia7902 Год назад
agreed.
@Awesome_Aasim
@Awesome_Aasim Год назад
I am glad Microsoft is focusing a lot on the operating system. By the time they release a Surface Duo 3 it will prob be far more polished than the first two Duos. This is the next step that Microsoft seems to be taking attempting to replicate their early success with the Microsoft Surface lineup.
@msp5138
@msp5138 Год назад
You don't own an OG Duo, correct. So you have no idea what you are talking about...
@Awesome_Aasim
@Awesome_Aasim Год назад
@@msp5138 I have been wanting to own one. Duo 2 is a substantive improvement to the Duo 1. Duo 1 is still excellent and great. I remember the Surface series did not see much success until the Pro 3. Were the Pro 1 and Pro 2 terribly flawed? Of course not, I remember the Pro 2 was very comfortable and easy to use having owned one myself. But the Pro 3 really optimized a lot of features like the kickstand, the Surface Pen, and the Type Cover.
@msp5138
@msp5138 Год назад
@@Awesome_Aasim The OG Duo is great and the Duo 2 is not a substantial improvement worth the extra $1,000 when you can get the OG Duo for $410...
@Awesome_Aasim
@Awesome_Aasim Год назад
@@msp5138 Considering the features that the Duo 2 has (NFC, upgraded camera, updated processor, 5G) that the Duo 1 lacked, I would certainly say that yeah the Duo 2 is an upgrade. In terms of the form factor, both the Duo and Duo 2 are worth it, but the problems that plagued Surface Duo at the start (but not as much now) are problems that even Samsung had to deal with in their foldable lineup.
@frankbuchholz2044
@frankbuchholz2044 Год назад
Love my Duo 2 and now I love it even more! Great job UI Team!
@DemShotta
@DemShotta Год назад
Thank you very much for this video. I've learned more here about my device than I did from Microsoft's own website.
@jhon2k1y
@jhon2k1y Год назад
Running good on my surface duo 2, great improvements.
@NadeemSarwarUK
@NadeemSarwarUK Год назад
So I went and got a Surface Duo 1 after watching this video and a couple of others. Arrived this morning. Android 12L has made this a great device. What an incredible second device. This is the way that Microsoft needs to focus the product. Don't bother trying to be a phone replacement but an incredible second device with 5G/4G connectivity. So great software, great screens and connectivity. But cameras, don't need them and treat this more like a tablet than a phone. I would have gone for Surface Duo 2, but this device is better due to the lack of camera bump and a nicer design. This is now go-to device for work email. Pity it took Microsoft 2 years to get there. Hopefully Surface Duo 3 perfects this form factor.
@db9841
@db9841 Год назад
How did you get android 12 L rom?
@EddyGraphic
@EddyGraphic Год назад
I like what they have done with the UI, the settings app looks fantastic!
@OverdosedCaffeine
@OverdosedCaffeine Год назад
This is perfection. Microsoft, well done. Kudos to everyone who worked on this. Chef's kiss. I like this almost as much as Pixel UI, if not more.
@sauceseji
@sauceseji Год назад
yo that lockscreen animation is hot 🥵they should implement it too with win11
@PatrickJoshua
@PatrickJoshua Год назад
It's the native Android 12 lockscreen animation. I don't think they can port that to Windows. But I do agree, it's really a nice animation. I always admire it in my Pixel phone.
@markfinlay422
@markfinlay422 Год назад
Bloody hell Microsoft, two years - TWO YEARS - and you have finally nailed it. So, I've just ordered one. Fingers crossed for me!
@petepaxton5109
@petepaxton5109 Год назад
I already have the Fold 4 but I got an unlocked brand new duo for $250 and I just couldn't pass it up. I have to admit I like it more than I thought I would. The numerous updates have made a big difference from when it first came out. I'm using it as my daily driver for now and it's actually running just fine. Now that I already have t he fold I'd probably choose it but if I had bought this before I probably would have never bought the fold.
@HauTam3ki
@HauTam3ki Год назад
I can confirm that is working on Duo 1 as well. It looking great like Windows 11. So Windows 11 design language are on Duos and now lets wait for Xbox Series X|S dashboard update to match that design.
@JGLCSW
@JGLCSW Год назад
Who's your provider? I'm on the AT&T Surface Duo 1. My phone is still buggy. Has it improved usability?
@HauTam3ki
@HauTam3ki Год назад
@@JGLCSW Im from Europe. I don't have AT&T, just unlocked. Buggy? For me is working great
@JGLCSW
@JGLCSW Год назад
@@HauTam3ki sorry, meant to say I'm not on Android 12L and my phone is very buggy still. Hopefully Android 12L improves usability. Thank you for your response.
@master2uall88
@master2uall88 Год назад
What service are you actually on? Mine is unlocked that is how I bought it all with Amazon but I have a T-Mobile SIM SIM card and maybe I should take it out and see if it will update without the SIM card end
@JGLCSW
@JGLCSW Год назад
@@master2uall88 my Surface Duo is also unlocked, but it was originally an att variant. I'm presently on T Mobile.
@gokuljosh1186
@gokuljosh1186 Год назад
I'm the kind of guy who wouldn't mind form factor of duo over galaxy fold, i don't even mind the specs. I believe there is a niche for foldables like this. I wish this device was accessible and priced more aggressively. Hope Microsoft puts in more effort on its next generation duo rather than abandoning it.
@aronaldharper543
@aronaldharper543 Год назад
It's about $350
@unkitjc
@unkitjc Год назад
I always wanted a Duo, but this really has me intrigued
@babaawawu3156
@babaawawu3156 Год назад
This is what I've always wanted the Duo to be. An extension of Windows running Android rather than just a Microsoft phone with a regular Android skin. Hopefully, Microsoft will make slab phones too
@JoshIsASoftie
@JoshIsASoftie Год назад
Interestingly this makes me want to seriously consider the Duo 2.
@TheHumbleBao
@TheHumbleBao Год назад
But the pricing for the duo 2 is like 3x more than this one right now
@ranawaqashaider
@ranawaqashaider Год назад
I liked the Windows 11 aesthetic but it need to be polished further e.g Wallpaper and Style as Personalization, sub menus UI and UX in settings, etc Microsoft also need to bring there windows apps to android space as well like dialer, messenger, calculator and other. Love it. 💕
@argenys
@argenys Год назад
Really seems that the Duo 3 might finally be on par with other flagships and a true option for many of us.
@dangwinn9117
@dangwinn9117 Год назад
That's fine if they also make a sub $500 dual screen Duo 3. The Duo 2 pricing was far beyond the reach of many like me.
@MeatNinja
@MeatNinja Год назад
Looks nice. RIP missing launcher features.
@anotheruser8105
@anotheruser8105 Год назад
at 330 US on Amazon, I was tempted. But only one more year of security support.
@sopadurso
@sopadurso Год назад
It's not out for my duo.
@simplyalonso
@simplyalonso Год назад
This is so cool! Some more upgrades for this little booklet! Hell, it looks like a phone running some sort of W11 lol
@Net7GiantMeteor2024
@Net7GiantMeteor2024 Год назад
Still limited to 4 rows/columns.... such a waste of bloody space
@dennan4
@dennan4 Год назад
This feels so much nicer!
@arielchris219
@arielchris219 Год назад
THAT LOCKSCREEN ANIMATION IS AWESOME. Looks cleaner and seems like its smoother now!
@keyjeyelpi
@keyjeyelpi Год назад
Quick question, did they implement the 3D Fluent Emoji as well? Aside from the UI and UX, Windows's emojis are waaay superior to both Android's and iOS' emojis
@TheMultigroover
@TheMultigroover Год назад
Just bought one for 329 euro. Its a amazing device for that price and now even android 12
@IsolatedAntagonist
@IsolatedAntagonist Год назад
love the fact you are rocking electric callboy
@aayush_karna
@aayush_karna Год назад
I'd love to see one screen windows surface phone
@richardstudio
@richardstudio Год назад
Microsoft should just use Segoe UI Variant to replace Roboto
@dareronin
@dareronin Год назад
Will part of this update also arrive on Microsoft Launcher on the Play Store?
@luccaskennan8776
@luccaskennan8776 Год назад
I hope so, for a long time MS Launcher was the best in play store
@seigfredancay4963
@seigfredancay4963 Год назад
Android 12L for Surface duo LOVE it.
@AlfonsoRiveraJr
@AlfonsoRiveraJr Год назад
I hope they continue embracing their new smartphone designs for further evolutionary products and not repeat history with their windows phone running on 8. Even that one was ahead of its time in its software management.
@mullenstudio9342
@mullenstudio9342 Год назад
I'm glad that with this update many bugs related to landscape apps are fixed (upside down, aspect ratio, can't unspan).
@kimoVoid
@kimoVoid Год назад
i wish other android UIs looked like this, im really upset that not many of them use window blurs since it's already supported by android itself
@anismistry1
@anismistry1 Год назад
One UI does
@keroutkerout5060
@keroutkerout5060 Год назад
Android 12L update isn't available for me on my surface duo 1
@WindowsCentral
@WindowsCentral Год назад
If on AT&T / AT&T branded, you likely have to wait a few days; otherwise, it is live for Duo 1 right now at 2.6GB.
@SpaceSpuddd
@SpaceSpuddd Год назад
@@WindowsCentral In Ireland myself, Not available yet 😅
@hashiraknightwalker393
@hashiraknightwalker393 Год назад
@@WindowsCentral it not showing up on my unlocked duo 1 i have it on metro pcs i keep checking but its not showing
@gotDIBS
@gotDIBS Год назад
@@WindowsCentral same not on my SD1
@jaybailey216
@jaybailey216 Год назад
Man that thing looks freaking smooth and fluid. Wow! Surface Duo is really tempting
@YogiAgustinus
@YogiAgustinus Год назад
Why don't they change the Battery icon and others in the status bar to be like Windows 11?
@williamtan4903
@williamtan4903 Год назад
Looks good! Hopefully there will be a surface phone
@anismistry1
@anismistry1 Год назад
No taskbar like Fold 4 :(
@michaelmorrone561
@michaelmorrone561 Год назад
Can you show the Google Messages app spanned? I'm hoping they fixed it to look like Outlook spanned.
@morgenmicha
@morgenmicha Год назад
Now, what feels like years later, the SD1 has finally become a daily driver device. and then it unfortunately already reaches its EOL status this year. what a pity. hopefully MS will think about it again about the update period. It would be a real shame about the great device, which only now seems really good and finished. it doesn't have to die in a few months!
@MrVeeBlog
@MrVeeBlog Год назад
I still like this Surface Duo. Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to finally get one.
@1HeatWalk
@1HeatWalk Год назад
I bought duo 1 for $300 new 1 month ago.
@AhammedShaheedhudheen
@AhammedShaheedhudheen Год назад
beautiful
@warmonked
@warmonked Год назад
Do non-MS apps still get confused by the middle area?
@rnnto
@rnnto Год назад
that unlock animation is so so so smooth and pretty
@simplyalonso
@simplyalonso Год назад
Right!
@xIJudaS
@xIJudaS Год назад
That's one of the most basic unlock animations lmao
@OnlyCitrus
@OnlyCitrus Год назад
its the stock A12 animation. Good that they didnt fiddle with it.
@RichardRatner.1972
@RichardRatner.1972 Год назад
This looks great! Kindest regards, Richard U.K
@TA-zf4me
@TA-zf4me Год назад
The buttons on my Slim Pen Slim stopped working after the 12L update. Still works with my wife's Surface Duo on Android 11.
@epicbcommenteronyoutubenot6348
Those new icons in the Settings app looks amazing! Hope if anyone remake those icons.
@strikejre81
@strikejre81 Год назад
Ok. But no desktop mode? Or free or cheaper access to Windows in cloud with a laptdock or monitor??
@mereobserver1727
@mereobserver1727 Год назад
A major UI/UX improvement over Android 10 & 11. Just wondering if this is the last OS version for the original Duo - and if so, how many years of security updates for 12L can be expected.
@DoshindeReus
@DoshindeReus Год назад
Really sad Microsoft left out the 12L taskbar
@KaneLivesInDeath
@KaneLivesInDeath Год назад
You listen to Electric Callboy? I see you're a man of culture as well.
@yashdhamecha5227
@yashdhamecha5227 Год назад
Hi! Zac. Would you recommend Surface Duo 2 now, after Android 12L update, when Surface Duo 3 is already due for next year? I'm considering to buy it during Black Friday sale. 🙂 Should I buy this now or wait for Surface Duo 3?
@tech-topia3995
@tech-topia3995 Год назад
I'm considering pulling the trigger on the Duo 1 once I see someone review it running 12L until Duo 3 comes out. It'll save me money and be a secondary device to my one Plus 10 Pro until Duo 3 arrives
@KannexMedia
@KannexMedia Год назад
It's polished and quite amazing that I have started recommending it to those that were interested a few months ago. Even providing links to local Canadian stores for them to check out
@adrianaslam8286
@adrianaslam8286 Год назад
How do you come to the conclusion that the UI matches fluent design? It only shares few elements with Microsoft’s fluent design philosophy. In fact it resembles the new Material design much closer. Except in the settings app they don’t even use their fluent apps icon. I‘m really puzzled. They said they tried to make it look like an extension of windows, but it seems they scraped that plan.
@kornkernel2232
@kornkernel2232 Год назад
It is more inspired now to Fluent Design V2, but yeah it's not a straight up similar to Wimdows. Things like sliders are still Android 12 design, only made some slight changes like added shadows. At least it's not bad, but it surely needs more polished. The title header for example sits way towards the left.
@JULIAN-qs4ed
@JULIAN-qs4ed Год назад
Nice for year 2015
@emmabentley7945
@emmabentley7945 Год назад
Hmmm maybe worth my time to get another one of these, owned one for a few months 2 years ago and it was OK but buggy but seems pretty good now ❤
@megamanfan3
@megamanfan3 Год назад
Looks like Microsoft went with a hybrid of both the Fluent and Material You design languages.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive Год назад
8.3" unfolded. I need 11.5" at least.
@gcjohntoledo
@gcjohntoledo Год назад
Yey. Downloaded in my SD2.
@Ronnet
@Ronnet Год назад
I'm disappointed the launcher is still bear bones. It's the stripped down version of the Microsoft launcher customized for Duo. But two years later you'd expect that some of the features would be brought over. I'm talking easy stuff like replacing the swipe down gesture from opening search to a customized action.
@mrgnarchr
@mrgnarchr Год назад
It really just goes to show how rushed out the Duo was. This is how the device software should have launched. It really makes it seem that the Duo was switched to Android very late in development.
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Год назад
i just realised Zac lives about 15 minutes away from where I used to live, huh
@SteadfastWL
@SteadfastWL Год назад
Still waiting for them to animate the overflow menu in W11. I mean yeah it's not that important but it's one of the few things that exist directly within the windows taskbar. It should absolutely be animated like everything else there and them not doing so just comes off as lazy.
@dizzyshay236
@dizzyshay236 Год назад
Can we just appreciate he likes Electric Callboy (Eskimo Callboy)
@kenwhiddonjr
@kenwhiddonjr Год назад
This is the Duo 2 phone being used, not the Duo I own the OG and I hope 12 is coming to it.
@macs006
@macs006 Год назад
Android 12L on the surface duo to me is basically Windows phone 11 but on Android
@Pantouflard
@Pantouflard Год назад
God this is amazing, made me want one.
@shard1874
@shard1874 Год назад
This update appears to be 12 not 12L. Setting >about. Says 12. One main difference between 12 & 12L is on 12L you get 2 columns in the notification shade. This just appears to be Android 12 for smartphones.
@WindowsCentral
@WindowsCentral Год назад
If you use a Galaxy Fold 4, which also ships with Android 12L, it too only says "Android 12," so ... no. "One main difference between 12 & 12L is on 12L you get 2 columns in the notification shade." that's IF the OEM chooses that. Fold 4 also doesn't have a dual-column notification shade. MS even calls it 12L on the announcement page: blogs.windows.com/devices/2022/10/24/surface-duo-update-brings-familiarity-with-windows-11-and-android-12l-improvements/
@kotcraftchannelukraine6118
@kotcraftchannelukraine6118 Год назад
I need this device but with Andromeda OS, Android has ruined this perfect device
@judgewest2000
@judgewest2000 Год назад
welcome to Windows 12
@dangwinn9117
@dangwinn9117 Год назад
WTH? My SD1 keeps telling me that no updates are available. I guess I'm in for a MS Surface support chat session. They're good, but I'd much rather it update without the hassle.
@condoriris6286
@condoriris6286 Год назад
I hope Microsoft will release a full windows flagship.
@monty6491
@monty6491 Год назад
Does it change how apps act when spanned?
@Kumarson
@Kumarson Год назад
Wonder how the UI from the nokia windows phone would look on this device...
@RichD2024
@RichD2024 Год назад
When does this come out? No updates available for my Dúo yet
@diogocosme5718
@diogocosme5718 Год назад
I got mine today on my surface duo. But I had to manually go to the settings > system > updates > check for updates.
@RichD2024
@RichD2024 Год назад
@@diogocosme5718 thanks, I just got it and it's like a whole new device! Loving it so far
@MillennialJesus
@MillennialJesus Год назад
Talk of ageing like wine
@cyberc0l0mbiana
@cyberc0l0mbiana Год назад
Sadly the original Duo will only get security updates/support until Sept 10, 2023 and Duo 2 until Oct 21, 2024. Not sure if the Duo 1 is still worth the $300 now with the fact it’s reaching end of life in 10 months 😒 and Duo 3 rumors of being released in early 2023 as well.
@Maxx134a
@Maxx134a Год назад
Why will we need security updates?
@MegaZoneEXE
@MegaZoneEXE Год назад
We just need pc parity with Office 365 on Android and a robust Microsoft Authenticator App. I really want a pure Microsoft ecosystems. I want Surface Duo 3 to be more PC than just anotber foldable phone.
@ridwanalmokdad9217
@ridwanalmokdad9217 Год назад
which is really nice .... nice l really excited pretty fancy other fancy stuff pretty awesome pretty cool
@joepacheco7979
@joepacheco7979 Год назад
My battery life is terrible now after the update. Anybody else experience that? Is there a fix?
@gotDIBS
@gotDIBS Год назад
Duo 1? Update as well?
@WindowsCentral
@WindowsCentral Год назад
Yes, of course.
@eingoluq
@eingoluq Год назад
@@WindowsCentral Nice, that's good. Other companies set a bad precedent so I can see how regular customers can expect to be shafted.
@gotDIBS
@gotDIBS Год назад
@@WindowsCentral when I go to updates, my phone says up to date Android 11. Hmm
@gotDIBS
@gotDIBS Год назад
@@WindowsCentralAtt is holding up the update for some phones Microsoft confirms making a headache for unlocked Duo's as well.
@zeedapezant
@zeedapezant Год назад
How do I use the browser side by side??? Ugh
@wailfaridi2070
@wailfaridi2070 Год назад
Looks good
@TechnicaX
@TechnicaX Год назад
Nice
@93khf
@93khf Год назад
Thanks 🙏
@dylanchadderton1
@dylanchadderton1 Год назад
i cant get it on Duo 1 yet
@faheemahmadofficial7701
@faheemahmadofficial7701 Год назад
they finally nailed it!!! lumia is FINALLY GONE
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
The Lumia probably still have a better camera quality.
@eingoluq
@eingoluq Год назад
I've decided to wait for Microsoft to put more compelling and competitive cameras, front-facing and back on the Surface Duo 3 for it to become my main device. For now, I'll finally upgrade my iPhone6 to the 12, 13 or 14 and wait. But I know the dual-screen device is my future for the next 2-6 years. I'm at that age, where productivity is more important to me than anything else, and as such, the form factor is more important than the OS. The Apps I use are on everything so the OS really is not that important so making the switch is going to be easy, (IOS has become pretty boring anyway, but I've never been an Apple guy). Although I am not a fan of Android either, I like what Microsoft has done here and I look forward to the future of this device.
@msp5138
@msp5138 Год назад
Just say you can't afford to buy a Surface Duo...lol
@tRav285
@tRav285 Год назад
Just buy a Duo 1 for under 300 it's a big upgrade from iphone6
@eingoluq
@eingoluq Год назад
@@tRav285 You clearly didn't read my comment properly.
@eingoluq
@eingoluq Год назад
@@msp5138 I can afford any device, But I'm not a moron with my money. Perhaps you should learn how to be pragmatic with your money. After the 6S I had no need to upgrade. It did everything fine and every upgrade of an iPhone since the ROI was not justified. I'm finally in need of a better camera for future endeavors, so now I'm upgrading. you guys who upgrade every year, for the slightest of improvements are an odd bunch of esily influenced sheeple. And to justify your egos you shout to the world you can afford things. thinking it makes you look big, but it really makes you look irresponsible with your money.
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone Год назад
It is a shame the cameras are subpar, coming from the Lumia 950. Maybe they should license the PureView tech from Nokia.
@tN0able
@tN0able Год назад
Why don’t they use the Windows 11 font and system tray icons? Strange.
@ianpan0102
@ianpan0102 Год назад
Can we download this Win11-flavored for non-Duo phones too? Say, a Pixel phone?
@thenerdysk8er
@thenerdysk8er Год назад
I have been eyeballing to get a surface duo to use as a digital planner, but can’t find any info on if its possible to use the pen in the calendar app to jolt down appointments etc? Seems like this has been completely overlooked?
@josephleondlovu490
@josephleondlovu490 Год назад
How do you take a screenshot on 12L the volume down and power no longer working for me
@ranumbakoh7292
@ranumbakoh7292 Год назад
Okay, no need for windows phone 11 bcs i want this 😂
@lindsayprescott7447
@lindsayprescott7447 Год назад
Still no support for custom icon packs....
@SarmadTechLab
@SarmadTechLab Год назад
I was the one who requested this
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