Andy Goldstein BELIEVES People Rate Gareth Southgate's Time As England Manager Too High! 👀😤 

"The late nights and early mornings have been my life" hahahahaha England played like 6-10 games per year max, poor soul.

He's not a winner. He's a people pleaser. He knew damn well Harry Kane wasn't fit to piay. It's actually quite scandalous.

Southgate has been paid best part of £40m for the pleasure to part time manage a golden generation to 2nd place ✌🏽

I don’t think England fans rate him at all, games are boring to watch. No style of playing.

The story being spun is incredible. Southgate's puppy dog eyes have really helped him. His words are a joke. Christ. He got £5 million a year and has mismanaged the team so badly.

1/10......Southgate was one of the worst managers I've ever seen at this level.... A super talented squad, lucky lucky lucky easy draws, tactically clueless, too defensive, idiotic team selections and moronic in-game management.

Goldstein is wrong. Statistically Sam Allardyce is England's best manager. 1 game, 1 win = 100% record

Only clowns will rate Southgate his been handed easy routes to finals with piss easy teams and still bottled plays the most boring football even my nan can do a better job

Southgate was paid over £5m per year for his sacrifice

I wished the FA had ended it after the World Cup... Kane should not have played in the final . If what Walker said is correct, about the players dropping back not instructions..Why didn't we see Southgate out, shouting and signalling, move up... We handed the final to Spain on a plate.. Lucky it wasn't 4-1

in current world we're living in, failure can be success yay!

You don't "celebrate a final." You celebrate winning a final.

The mere fact he said "everyone wants to be loved" sums up why he never won anything as a manager.

Southgate needs to come out and explain why he decided to play players out of position in a major tournament!

The fact those defending Southgate base it on, 'Look how bad it was before Southgate, losing to Iceland!' Southgate tactics have barely scraped past teams that Iceland side would have beaten! And the irony is he lost to Iceland in the last tournament warm up game!

8.5 out of ten is INSANE! Like I keep saying football punditry is dead

We need to realise that our players ,who we think are world class,are not as good as we think they are.

Nah man when the coldplay song came on i was dead 💀💀💀

I don’t rate him at all. He’ll prob get a knighthood now for failing.

I don't know how you can sit through the group stages games, Slovakia, Denmark and then thank Southgate for that. Some of the most dull, uninspired and incredibly lucky performances with incredibly lucky teams being faced. How on earth can you thank someone for sitting through that? Clearly casual fans that don't watch decent football and have absolutely no clue.

I will always remember southgate as the manager that got england relegated, and 2 losing finals playing shite.

I went off him when he became a voice for BLM and then demanded England players were vaccinated. I haven't watched England since. Hopefully the new man will keep politics out of the game.

Who is Graham effin potter ffs. The FA had got the money. Klopp is available. He likes the uk. Pay him what he wants.

People seem to think that we are at the level of Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil and Argentina. We aren’t and never have been

Worst manager in. Englands history

People really need to be more respectful. The treatment our lot has given Southgate has been embarrassing.

Can't stand listening to all these sycophants saying about his "successes", 2 finals and a semi-final. The fact is that any above average manager with the world class talent available to him would have probably won 3 trophies. So NO, Southgate was not that good. Sorry.

He's a participation manager... with that exact personality. Not a winner mentality. Not ruthless.

Begging for love… that’s what losers do, winners are admired!

Please don't put Andy and Andy together again, it's painful watching these two interact...I'm glad southgate has gone, I NEVER RATED HIM

I completely agree with Andy Goldstein. Southgate was employed as a Football Manager to win trophies, he failed. His lack of courage cost England. Still can’t comprehend why Watkins & Palmer were not given more playing-time. Kane wasn’t match-fit.

Couldn't believe how many England corners and free kicks ended up with Pickford?

Results wise He achieved the minimum of what was required - previous managers didn’t do that so did better than them - but for example on 1986,1990,1996 we lost to the winners so didn’t make finals but while no proof I’d say Robson or el tel would’ve won a comp if had the lucky draws and ref decisions he had

Gotta agree with goldstein. He had an unbelievable squad of attacking players and played deep defensive football

Was never a Southgate supporter. He definitely raised the bar in terms of progression in tournaments, but not in terms of winning trophies he didn't deliver. The last dozen or so games have been a struggle. Right time to go. Thanks Gareth.

he was only supposed to be a stop gap manager.........shoulda stayed that way

Achieved the bare minimum we expected and never delivered in the big games. He stumbled onto a formation that partially worked during this tournament and then threw it out of the window because he was shook by the fact we had to play Spain and reverted back to the formation that didn't work.

I am Chelsea fan , I can relate to the Gareth Southgate experience with our team .Chelsea ,from 2007 to 2010 was brimming with world class talent that serially challenged for top honours ,domestic and continental all the way to the business end. What they often lacked however, was that ‘it’ factor when it counted, primarily due to managerial shortcomings.The 2007/2008 season, in particular, stood out. Avram Grant took over mid-season almost in the same manner that Gareth did as an interim measure . While he was tactically inept and in over his head ( like Southgate) , individual performances carried the team. Like England, they had multiple “almosts” that season but never quite reached the top. Avram was very nice likeable guy but he just didn't cut it and they moved him along sharpish. The late Ray Wilkins once said this was probably one of the strongest Chelsea squads ever assembled. They were formidable because they managed and organized themselves on the pitch, often relying on individual brilliance. However, they lacked the slight course correction at key moments in the season and cup games to actually win something and those can only come from a competent manager . Enter Carlo Ancelotti in 2009, the squad finally achieved its potential, winning the title by a canter in 2010 from Manchester United. I feel like the England squad is in a similar predicament now. Gareth had the job for 8 years. Just being a nice ,likeable guy is not going to cut anymore .Especially if you truly have ambition to win.Just him talking and whining about being loved tells me all I need to know,when he hasn't actually won anything.The Peps,Klopps and Mourinhos of this world understand that winning is what counts in the end , almost is alright but ultimately,not good enough.

Dont think I've ever agreed with Goldstein, but he's absolutely applied a nuanced, objective and contextual approach. Far too many time when I hear people who mark Southgate high, it's because they grade Gareth as being the astute statesman and loyalist. At times focusing more on the character than his managerial qualities

People keep bringing up how will always qualified under Southgate. It's virtually impossible not to. There are now 214 international teams, there used to be 75 so back then there was more strength in depth.

Goldstein changes his tune more times than a pub jukebox.

He took us as as far as his talent allowed. 102 games in charge. How many does anyone remember where we dominated a game with World class football? He improved the structure at the FA, and that may be his crowning achievement, but he doesn't have the instincts required, at the highest level, to get us across the line, even with the best players in generations. He repeatedly came up short, when it came to selections, tactics, and in-game management. He turned an attacking squad into 11 Gareth Southgates, over-cautious, defensive, slow .... boring. That's just about acceptable if you win something, but losing, playing truly awful, boring, unwatchable, football, will be my memory of his time in charge. Does anyone think that Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy, Spain or France celebrate getting to a semi-final or final and losing? Nah ... because they all know it's not long since they won something, and it won't be long before they win something else. It will be 60 years of hurt soon.

That music 😂 I’m having a pint to celebrate ❤

Did I imagine those three headers on the line at the end? No one is mentioning that gazza moment. Did I dream that bit??

If GS was running a company he would never have had 4 chances. His entire time was summed up by the throw in 20 yards fron the Italy box when it was 1-1. The ball was thrown back to Pickford who booted it out, Spain grabbed it and within 5 mins in was 2-1.

he achieved one outstanding result in his reign which was the 3-2 vs Spain in the Nations League. he hasn't achieved an outstanding result aside from that. Every other top nation we haven't beaten... the reason we've gotten to the latter stages of tournaments is because of the runs we've had to get there. We've got hugely fortunate with draws and STILL not got over the line

Southgate deserves more credit than he's getting. Him bringing the players together is the only reason we managed to get to two finals and a world cup semi. We've had better squads in the past that achieved nothing. If the next manager wins anything he has southgate to thank.

Late nights, early mornings. Tough life as worlds highest paid manager with a competition every 2 years flying and dining VIP.

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5:40 Southgate was never honest about his tactics. Against Italy he clearly was playing for penalties rather than going for it, even though they had the monster that is Donarumma in goal. He sat back on a 1-0 lead against Croatia rather than going for the second. Against Spain he got is equaliser then played for extra time, rather than hitting them whilst they were on the ropes. He was a good manager to get us performing to the deeper elements of a tournament but he needed to be replaced with an elite.manager who can finish the job. I fear we'll step backwards with Potter or Carson.

Andy Goldstein spoke some sense in his show for once. One of the few occasions we agree on.

Spot on Goldstien, couldn't agree more.

He failed? By that measure every England manager has failed apart from Sir Alf Ramsey

Fans want an elite manager & not too concerned with personality Trophies!!!

As a sports journalist, I've seen many teams with impressive stats and paperwork fail to deliver on the field. Just because a team looks good on paper doesn't mean they're guaranteed to win. The commentator is right that England should win, but 'should' is just a word - it's not a guarantee of success. The British media and fans need to understand that football is a challenging and unpredictable sport, and it's the British media and fans who are often guilty of hyping up their players to unrealistic levels, setting them up for disappointment.

Absolutely spot on Andy

Have to agree with Goldstein. We haven’t got as far because of Southgate. We got to this final, because despite the manager trying to force players into a system and positions that don’t suit them… they’re so got that they were still able to find a way

This is bloody harsh. It's the players who step on that pitch who are to blame. They have been given the opportunity to win something twice now & failed to grasp that moment of immortality that awaited them. We got lucky to have fortunate runs to get to where Gareth has taken us but just because we have players who individually thrive at club level does not mean we have some divine right to be beating anyone, we HAVE to prove it. Over the last 8 years they just have not been collectively good enough. We cannot hold possession of the ball & pass under pressure when it comes down to other teams, the best we can hope for is to attack & go to score goals. When we get knocked out in the Quarter Finals in the World Cup of 2026, it will be a brave defeat but if we don't get hold of the ball we won't win a thing

Why is the media in general giving him a pass for continuing with a failing Plan A. Players out of position, Kane unfit and miles off it playing, panic late subs his signature move. Taking 1 unfit LB to a tournament, experimenting in tournament with TAA as a midfielder. And we've been a hard watch throughout.

he will be remembered for what he did off the pitch far more than anything he did on it. Of those 4 finals I would say only Spain was the game where I couldnt see them getting anything all the other games England were on top and chose to sit back and allow the opposition to get back into the game he didnt change things when he should have. Top managers react in game to ensure winning positions dont end up as losing ones

It's criminal not to start Trent and Gomez. Both have lots of experience in high pressure games and cup finals. Also waited to long to influence the games with substitutions.

Àndy, no we do not rate him- no real football fan ever would. Also good to hear from that patriotic Irishman born in Kent going on about loyalty.

Why would I??? Southgate said he could do the job not me. 8 years and achieved zero.

7 is extremely generous

It's very difficult to be gracious in defeat when it keeps happening

When Southgate got us to the Euro 2020 final Goldstein said no one can ever question him and everyone should trust whatever he wants to do because it gets us further than anyone else in our lifetime...

I hope you don't take this message as a provocation, but as an external comment. Whether England wins or loses, frankly it doesn't affect me at all. It's just a personal observation. I was taught that the foundation for progressing in life lies in conducting a serious self-analysis. I perceive a lot of entitlement and delusion in an Englishman who does not consider Southgate as the second best coach in history. To me, if you want to write history, you need to comprehend history. If the English benchmark for failure is not lifting a trophy, logic states that you have literally failed every time in your centennial history except for 1966 (and let's not talk about that slightly controversial victory). For better or worse, with rather favourable brackets of course, Southgate has led you to a World Cup semifinal (one out of three) and two European finals (two out of two). I am Italian, and I am a nobody to lecture or moralise you: our current football is in a pitiful state compared to yours. But if we speak historically, nations like Germany or Italy could afford not to consider a Southgate among their top coaches. An Italian with two lost European finals would statistically be the sixth/seventh in our history. Not for England. Even before tactical analyses and blaming the coach and players, in my opinion, the *step to take is to make a serious assessment of who you are historically*, how important it is for you to have reached two finals, to understand the mistakes made, and to start again with humility and courage (which you lacked). Only by knowing who you are will you be able to understand how to seize opportunities.

Was never tactically good enough no one remembers second best

Everyone is still being bitter about losing. They have short memories (or are too young to remember what came before). In the 5 Euro's prior to Southgate, we made 2 quarter finals, 1 last 16, failed to get out the group stage and failed to even qualify for one. With World Cups, its 1 quarter final, 2 last 16s, one failure to get out of the group and 1 failure to even qualify. Southgate got us to 2 euro finals, a world cup semi final and a world cup quarter final. Thats a VAST improvement. The squad is good, but the squad of players avaliable is no better then what we had during the 2000s. With great tactictical managers like Eriksson and Capello. People focus in on Hodgson and Mclaren, because the squad wasn't great there and they weren't the greatest of managers (Hodgson actually was pretty good at one point in time, but he was well, well past his best by the time he was England manager). People say all he did was stop the players fighting with each othert and playing as a team, but that is also part of being a manager and NO-ONE else had managed that since Venables.

Put it this way. If a Liverpool manager had 4 goes at the fa cup and eventually lost to a premier league team in the semis and final having beaten League 2 & League 1 sides en route, would it be considered a successful series of FA cup campaigns?

2 back to back euro finals is an achievment that no other england manager achieved.

He said he took the job to improve English football, but somehow never realised that playing so defensively was not the way to do it. Talksport also need to stop bringing Gareth's mates up here to talk nonsense. Before a tournament its "we have the players to win this" and after the tournament its "expectations were too high, we've never won before"

We’ll know how good he’s been after next couple of tournaments.

Goldstein calling it out!.. these other pundits need to get a grip!

He did give us England fans some great, great moments, but not winning against Italy was absolutely criminal. That is his biggest failure, bang average Italian side at Wembley, negative cautious play cost us dearly. That was our true chance, Spain are miles ahead of us.

Real talk from Goldstein💯👌

This was Townsend's worse showing on TS! Goldstein wiped the floor with him with staright up logic and common sense. A bumbling apologist for the now, thank the footballing Gods, wondered off Waistcoat, Townsend marks Kneelgate 8.5/10, there is the problem right there, 8.5 for with these players, with 3 unfathomably flukey-spookey draws, yet wins nothing! Then he doubles down citing if ENG had beaten France last WC, not winning the WC, so just reached another semi, he would have given him a flipping 9!!! A 9 yet won nothing. Goldstein let him off the hook when questioning him would you have given him an 8.5 if previous managers had gotten to finals (and lost) too, he bumbled about saying the lamest kop out, "I understand exactly what you're saying". We heard what he was saying, what TF are you saying? Questioning why ENG should be beating Iceland, when AG hits back because we've better players, Townsend "Yeah you've better players but you haven't won any tournaments", squirm in your seat son with your Billy the Goat's "Butts". WTF has that got to do with beating Iceland, who mostly don't even qualify for tournaments. Townsend praising Kneelgate's loyalty to players, what you mean playing a clearly unfit Kane for the whole Euro's! Not taking a fit LB to the Euro's in loyalty to Shaw, where did his loyalty get ENG? I haven't seen the clip but a couple of mainstream journalists have said, when Spain went 1-0 up, Bellingham shouted at Kneelgate to do/change something. I can't ever recall hearing of a player shouting at Pep, Klopp, Wenger, Ferguson, Maureeniho, Robson, Venables to change something. I've never seen such angst on the faces of ENG players in a competition, never seen them react to justifiable cricticism, with such narkiness. Yet we're told this manager had created such harmony, made such a touchy-feel-kneely atmosphere, all was hunkey-dorey! The way he threw away that EURO final to Italy is his overiding, over arching, unforgivable legacy! If those grey men in grey suits appoint another 'Yes' man, the fans should say 'No' man!

Not once did either really say, He had the greatest bunch of English young players in decades without those he wouldn’t have lasted a year

I blame that song 'Football's Coming Home' that's a song you can only sing after you win a trophy not before .

Andy Townsend the Englishman who’s Irish talks some nonsense.

5 million a year. 40 million for 8 years. I call that a success, especially in life 😅

He certainly shouldnt be getting a knighthood for failure !!

The media talk so much bs to cover for his awful tactics blaming it on other bs. He plays terrible football and completely mismanages the team endlessly, but the media have always jumped to his defense and blamed any criticism as being harsh. People are always blaming the tactics and football, not the person. We hate his TACTICS.

A 7/10 if he left after qatar. 6/10 after this euros, getting to the final was good but we have stunk the tournament out. This tournament has been. 3/4 out of 10 on performances vs squad and competition. 2018 was an 8/9 out of 10, my favourite tournament as an English fan.

I actually think it's the opposite people are WAYYY too negative about Gareth. Yes he has SOME tactical faults however considering where we were after the Iceland defeat it's been a good journey under him and he helped build the foundations of a great team so thank you Gareth!

Gareth Southgate record, finished fourth 2018 World Cup, quarter-final World Cup 2022, runners up in Euro Final 2020 and 2024. How is this a bad record? Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe many England players are overrated? Ever considered the fact that the pundits and the media often exaggerate England's chances?

Lol Talksport pundits been bashing Gareth for months, pretty disgusting really

He took two injured players to the euros, shaw and kane, and if kane had anything about him he would have dropped himself, he's got form for playing while injured in a final ask any spurs fan. Big sam has the best win ratio 100%😂

What left Southgate down this tournament was playing Harry Kane unfortunately.

A night like what?? We lost every final

What a world we live in when coming in second place is hailed as an achievement worthy of praise 😂😂 Damn yalls people are way beyond delulu this unprecedented levels of coping should be studied

England, best manager, thank you, Gareth

End of the day Germany excepted we always lost once we faced a top 5 football nation. And Croatia and Italy were not all time great teams. He just happened to avoid those teams until the final stages. To me he did the same job as the likes of Venables and Sven, they just ran into all time great teams like Argentina, Brazil, Germany earlier in tournaments

The defence of Southgate is actually embarrassing. Imagine wasting this bunch of talents and calling it a success....

When you look at how deep he made it into tournaments it looks like a success, but when you list off the teams he beat and lost too it doesn’t look so good. 6/10 for me.

As a Spaniard I think he did very well with the mediocre players he had

The Klopp comparison is nonsense. Top club managers get a crack at 4-5 trophies a season. National managers get 1 shot every 2 years

If Klopp did not win a trophy Liverpool fans will say its a fail!!!😅😅😅

Harry McGuire as player/manager please 😂

What Tottenham Hotspurs are at club level, England are at world level.