Im a drill and torch guy and “feel” i’ve got it down to the point that im annealing them correctly. If there’s any error in my process I would guess that the cases that haven’t been annealed correctly are under annealed as opposed to over annealed which is what I’d prefer. This system you’ve created is incredible because the considerations to each manufacturers brass specifications. If I go automated it will be with your product because of this reason.
This is a great investment. I've struggled to anneal fire formed reloads accurately using torch style systems, and have spent more time and money getting a system tuned, and still worry about having open flame near my reload station. Thanks for making such a thorough system, looking forward to ordering mine!!!
+Patrick Thompson Hi Patrick, we are currently putting the finishing touches on our next shipment of 300 units as we speak. Remember that you can always send us your brass at any time and we will calibrate it for free!
Thank you for the scientific approach that you have taken regarding cartridge brass annealing, and for the product that has resulted. You seem to have made a significant step forward in the evolution of the annealing process. Let's say brass #1 is annealed after every 1 firing and brass #2 is annealed after multiple firings, say every 5 firings. Will brass #1 become sequentially softer and will brass #2 become sequentially harder, after repeated cycles of firing and annealing, based on the fact that they are starting out with varying degrees of working hardening at each annealing cycle? If so, have you gotten far enough In your testing to establish some parameters as to what is too soft and what is too hard? And if so, how does a shooter compensate for that over repeated firings? My questions have the aim of furthering your effectiveness, not of criticizing your work thus far. Thank you.
Hi Griffin, sorry for the late reply, the notifications seems to be a little buggy. Your question is quite a common one we get emailed quite regularly. In our studies we have found that the hardness of the brass increases dramatically after the first reload (from virgin) and gets harder with each successive reload. The neck tension as a result increases as well. We have found when annealing brass, as long as the brass is harder than our target hardness it will anneal down to that hardness, it doesn't matter if it has been fired once or five times. It is because of the increases in hardness during successive reloads we instruct our customers to anneal after every shot because then consistent neck hardness is maintained with each reload. If the hardness is already at the target or below nothing will happen. As far as what is too soft and too hard we have found there is a Goldilocks zone and if the hardness is not brought down to that zone then there will be a gradual hardness creep with every reload and if it is below that hardness zone the brass will loose its plasticity and will be useless. We understand that there are many variables in the cartridge world and we have the ability to account for differences in brand, neck turned brass, trimmed vs untrimmed etc in our lab, and make a point of working with our customers by testing samples of their brass in our lab to give them custom settings if needed. We also state that if your brass is not on the list of settings then please send a sample to us where we will test it to establish a setting. This is a free service we provide to our customers.
I like the hole idea. Very nice product. Confused on the reason wee need to do the brass. Steel and brass are opposite with heating and quenching. What is the goal?
Induction I agree is the way to go , to be precise as possible. Just can't see using this machine till cycle time is increased. Handling one at a time not going to cut it.
Had one on order since April, it’s now September so have now cancelled the order. The agent here in the UK 🇬🇧 their hands were tied and with so many waiting disappointed customers. It proves their guarantee isn’t worth a dam as they cannot supply the machine.
We have discontinued this model of our annealer and our MARK II version will be shipping in a few weeks time. We have major issues getting the unit certified for EMC testing which grants the FCC and CE mark. The unit also has to pass these tests for safety reasons as we are dealing with very high voltages. We are sorry for the delay in getting these new units out but we just couldn't make the process any faster. Support for the original MARK I machine will continue and our guarantee still stands.
+mastalee Our research has shown that there are very subtle dimensional variations between different brands of the same cartridge, mostly in wall thickness around the shoulder and neck area. As these dimensions vary the amount of brass which is required to heat up we must vary the amount of energy delivered to the cartridge to get the correct anneal. Hence the programs. If a brand or calibre of brass you desire is not listed we provide a free service for calibration for all our customers. Simply send us a sample of your brass, we do the testing and can work up a program for your brass that will give the exact anneal every time.
It's actually pretty reasonable. It's 1450 CAD here in Canada, where a shitty Annealez goes for about 1/3 or 1/2 of that price. But you are right, I'm not getting it until the wife goes away for vocation.
Hey im from Germany. I have interest in your product. My english is not the best. Can you explane me why anneal a brass is important? I really didnt understand what is the different between a normal brass and a brass that get annealed.
Hi! Our research has shown that the brass cartridges will gradually work harden with repeat reloads. This can cause a number of undesirable effects. Annealing returns the cartridge back to a base line hardness each time you reload to ensure consistency. You can find out more here. www.ampannealing.com/about-brass-hardness/
You will need to use a different system than up and down arrows since by the time you have 8-900 programs arrowing from say 50 to 800 begins to reduce the speed advantage gained from AMPS and is frustrating to the average reloader.
Hi Jeff, The buttons can be held down to rapidly cycle through the programs. The machine comes pre-loaded with 126 programs which vary the amount of power and time. Our metallurgy tests determine which program to use for a given cartridge. Brand, neck wall thickness and LOT number can vary this setting. This is why we always recommend customers send us some samples of their brass for guaranteed results.
I live in Canada, I buy and load Lapua brass exclusively in .308, .243, .222 and .223 calibers. Are you suggesting that everytime I make a new purchase of brass (a different LOT number) that I should send you a sample of that brass so you can test it and tell me the correct settings for this machine? This could be extremely problematic for me, as far as I know (been told) it's almost impossible, and very expensive, to ship what our Government considers weapon parts (brass shell casings) out of Canada, however I could be wrong on this point. Please update me, I was about to buy this machine..
We have had many people send us samples from Canada and so far have had no issues. We do recommend sending us a sample of new LOT numbers as this ensures the correct settings is used. Apart from the shipping costs, this is a free service we provide.
+sabas7007 Yes we do, visit www.ampannealing.com/settings to see all the cartridges we currently support. If your cartridge is not listed we provide a free service to test the brass with our lab to establish a machine setting for you. You only need to send it to us. Please note that the machine settings will vary depending on the caliber, neck wall thickness and brand.
