Much like how the MCU boosted the popularity of former B-lister Iron Man, Annihilation boosted the value of Richard Rider Nova. Well at least for me. So much so that when the killed him off way back when, it devastated me, over a character I did not give a flying fig in the 90s.
This was the era that gave such great development to characters like Ronan the Accuser, Nova, Silver Surfer, the Guardians of the Galaxy along with a nice use of locations and empires that used to be Avengers, X-men or Fantastic Four plot devices. I loved,Realm of Kings, War of Kings, Thanos Imperative /Cancerverse, Hickmans Infinity along with the recent Annihilation:Scourge. My only complaint is the modern characterization of Thanos and the Guardians not living up to the Abnett and Lanning versions and become their movie versions, but I do love the moving away from cosmic entities and focusing more on the Empires of Space like the Kree, Skrulls and Shi'ar with a great focus on cosmic characters that I loved in the early 90s, I loved Drax, Gamora and Moondragons development during this time, its great stuff. However I do love the Starlin era of cosmic existentialism, unfortunately there aren't many other writers that were interested, by this time that, in such topics, and even recent stories of Starlin's have suffered in terms of plot because of his introspective nature of his characters. I do wish that characters like Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock and Thanos were still characters that were in existential angst, and while Silver Surfer still is, the changes to Thanos and Warlock by other writers honestly is my only complaint about modern Cosmic Marvel and I say this as someone who has loved Marvel Cosmic since I was a kid before Annihilation was even a thing and never stopped.
If it's the introspective writing you're after I cannot recommend Silver Surfer: Black enough. Al Ewing's Guardians is shaping up to be great based off the 3 available issues. It's a move away from the movies and back to DnA writing
@@MrMangaman1 Funny you should say that, but yeah I have actually enjoyed Both Silver Surfer Black and Al Ewings run of Guardians a lot so far, I even enjoyed Cates Guardians to an extent, its just too bad he was only there for so many issues, but thanks anyways! Im loving Cates Thor run as well!
OMG I completely agree! Thanos and Warlock were my favourite characters when Starlin was writing them, but I can't stand their portrayal by other writers.
Before Annihilation, I Really Wasn’t Interested In The Cosmic Side of Marvel. After I Had Read Annihilation, I fell in love with Cosmic Marvel. Great Video Matt
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Richard Rider putting Tony Stark in his place after Annihilation and Civil War is easily one of my favorite epic comic book moments. After a certain point civil war got really confusing to read with all the spin offs which is how I pick up annihilation. So glad I did as its ages far better.
This is probably my favorite Marvel event ever. It got me into Marvel and it's what made me a fan of Marvel Cosmic, especially Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy.
There's something to be said about how, among the newcomers in Marvel vs Capcom 3, Nova was one of the few who had nearly no animated or movie appearances at the time. The only things he had were a cameo in the Silver Surfer cartoon and one important episode in Super Hero Squad. Annihilation was a powerful event for him, no doubt.
Pardon my language, but this event kicks f🤬ing ass! You said it during your live stream, but as someone who's been a fan of yours for a few years now I can assure you your videos have improved a lot over the years and they've been amazing in the first place. One thing I'd like to tell you, cause I'll always bang out on your live streams from now on, my last name is pronounced Jimbala. My dad even got a letter for a mister Jim Bala, due to only having said his last name on the phone. As long as you'll keep your quality up I'll always be around, so thanks a lot Matt! ✌️
There's so much great cosmic stuff that came out of this event, from DnA's GotG, to some of the modern Thanos stuff. IIRC, i think there's a What If comic about the cosmic heroes failing, and the heroes reuniting during civil war to turn back the annihilation wave before it hits earth. So many fun concepts that've shaped the future of Marvel. Phyla-Vell is one of my favorite characters in the 616, I really hope she shows up in a GOTG or Captain Marvel one day. I can't help but feel like we're experiencing another Cosmic Renaissance through books like Cates' Silver Surfer Black, Cosmic Ghost Rider, and his Thor run.
I stumbled upon this story and almost immediately I was enthralled. I didn't know about 90% of characters but the series really showed why they were good characters. Nova, Starlord and Quasar were always interesting.
I've always heard how Annihilation was superior to Civil Was since I got into comics. I still think Marvel Cosmic is too weird for me but at least Nova got some shine.
I have the 5 omni set of Annihilation, Annihilation: Conquest, Road to WoK, War of Kings and Realms of Kings. Read them over the summer 3 or 4 years ago, good stuff. So mighty were they the shelf holding them buckled under the strain a year ago.
Lately, I’ve been getting into the cosmic side of the Marvel Universe thanks to the Guardians and the recent Cates’ titles, so it still surprising that I haven’t read Annihilation yet. This sounds like such an awesome comic and I can’t wait to check it out. Another great video and I’m glad to have been apart of your live chat yesterday. Can’t wait for the next one.
It's unfortunate that they do seem to like destroying the Nova Corps from time to time. This works well as an idea, once or twice, but after a while it becomes too predictable.
Looking back, the way Annihilation reinvented the Marvel cosmic corner with crazy war and death was probably a big influence on the dumpster fire that ended up be Ultimatum.
Annihilation is the best comic event you've never heard of. And it actually did the thing bad events promise to do, it had long term status quo changing consequences. Contrasting this with the concurrent Civil War is just, so interesting. This had a clear editorial vision and direction, while Civil War.. did not. Characters like Nova came out of this with a new spotlight and character development, while in Civil War Peter Parker lost character development... a lot of character development. Annihilation has heroes and villains teaming up, Civil War has heroes fighting heroes while the villains just, politely wait on the sidelines I guess?
Hell yeah! Annihilation is one of those great stories I always wanted to read all the way through. Great story, amazing art, memorable heroes and villains and left a huge impact. This story is the quintessential cinematic comic book story.
Since you mentioned this in your livestream, I read the whole omnibus for the first time since I have never really heard about this event before but It was fun...and I an finally watch this video without being spoiled
Lovely, lovely video. A couple of questions… how would you rate the follow-up event, Annihilation Conquest? Would you say these are standalone books? Would it be ok to stop here, or with Conquest and not read the war of kings trilogy?
It's worth noting that another reason cosmic Marvel kind fell out of style was that the grim and gritty trend had taken over and many fans were chasing that and when Marvel/DC went into their "reconstruction" phase, they just weren't thinking on that cosmic scale.
Annihilation was such a pleasant surprise for me around around 2009. I was blown away by the scale, tone, and overall *quality* of it. I was hooked on all the Marvel Cosmic stories that would spawn after such as Conquest, War of Kings and Thanos Imperative. The most pleasant surprise of Annihilation was that it was essentially a Why you should respect the Fantastic Four" story (given that most of the cast of Annihilation is FF villains). Same with how 52 was a "Why you should respect the Shazam Family" with the promotions that Mr. Mind and Black Adam received. The funny thing is, Marvel had every intent on killing Cosmic Marvel with Thanos Imperative. Until Disney needed a space property to promote in case the Star Wars deal didnt go through.......
I would absolutely love to hear your opinion on marvel zombies, It was one of my first comics that got me into comics as a whole and feels like an amazing love letter to both Marvel Heroes and Horror at the same time, While still keeping the essence of the characters (like spiderman)
I’ve read comics for decades, Annihilation and Civil War both worked as the best possible mid point, allowing for drastic changes to unfold in the best possible way. Seeing the return to Cosmic Marvel was fantastic.
Great video man. You can take the most epic stuff and turn it into a succinct and understandable yarn. Big fan. Now think about doing some Image stuff pleeeease. Spawn, Invincible, etc...Thanks as always.
It's worth noting that Abnett also helped shaped the scripts for the first GotG film with Gunn, and then Abnett AND Lanning both wrote the Volume 2 script. Clearly continuing their vision of the team from the comics and Annihilation War, despite Gunn getting all the credit.
Best storyline ever. Kirby is the greatest Loved every panel of realm of kings series , to thanos imperative and then annilus; and by far the best read ive had all my life ❤ (everything from thanos,ravenous, starjammers darkhawk,blackbolt,vulcan,blaststarr, magus ,kl'rt, kallack and then annilus) insane
The Annihilation era was the best Marvel cosmic had been since Starlin. Simply amazing books. The first Annihilation was the best, but War of Kings was nearly as good. Heck, between this era at Marvel and Johns's Green Lantern run happening at DC, lovers of cosmic comics were living like royalty.
hey matt! video was great an I have some suggestions for future videos. You could make a video on grant morrisons new x-men showing how he expanded and explored the x-men's mythos and personality's. you could also do spider-man by j.michael strazinsky. you could also talk about keith giffens ambush bug. these are only suggestions and not demands. hopefully you could but only if you feel like it
This comic was my biggest inspiration for my interests when I found it as a kid, not even just for superheroes but sci-fi and also a bit of horror from the deaths of quasar and Annihilus, but even just for storytelling and art in general.
Fantastic work! I'd recommend you read and hopefully cover (for our sake) Donny Cates work with Jason Aaron leading up to War of Realms. Never thought Thor and Venom would be brought together so beautifully.
Without infinity gauntlet & annihilation marvel would look like DC. This is why I like marvel! To compare this to infinite crisis is a disservice to annihilation wave considering DC idea of cosmic always centers around jla (or alternate versions of jla/earth but it's earth), green lanterns, Darkseid (always seeking "anti life equation") then sprinkle in anti monitor. Once in a while they have a completely new character ie Perpetua, Barbados. DC is like Joe Q they have no interest in their cosmic landscape or adding new characters or focusing on anyone other than JLA.
I gave no shits about Cosmic Marvel besides Silver Surfer as a kid, Keith Giffin & Andy Schmidt changed that. This one on of my favorite eras of Marvel Comics. What a fun wild ride, thanks for bringing me back.
I think Civil War actually helped Annihilation at the time. With all the "big name" heroes focused on the Earthbound Civil War, it allowed for pretty much C and D listers to strut their stuff.....It also gelt way more "deadly" as since, these WERE C and D listers, even though nobody stays dead in comics, the threat to them still felt more real. I compare Annihilation to the "Avengers in Space" storyline of few years ago and there's no comparison - The latter just seems like a way to make the Avengers look good where as Annihilation was a way to make EVERYONE look good.
Oooh animation event awesome this story was really interesting and very cool cosmic marvel event and personally in my opinion ten times better then marvel civil war at least in my opinion.
Agreed. It'sa shame this comic was overlooked for Civil War because while Civil War had a great premise in the beginning it quickly got convoluted and Ironman started acting out of character.
@@themadtitan7603 indeed and not to mention civil war ruined spider-man peter parker and mary jane life and unfortunately was the catylist for the awful awful one more day garbage that ruined everything with peter parker and mary jane for a literal decade.
In that period, I loved more Messiah complex and annhilation than civil war. Damn, mutant and cosmic crossovers were leagues better than the avengers/marvel u onea
I would absolutely love to hear your opinion on marvel zombies, It was one of my first comics that got me into comics as a whole and feels like an amazing love letter to both Marvel Heroes and Horror at the same time, While still keeping the essence of the characters (like spiderman)
