The X-Men Iceberg Explained 

They really need to make the character limit bigger. 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articles about Misfits www.cbr.com/x-men-colossus-related-to-grigori-rasputin/ - article about Colossus' relation with Rasputin ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gH7YvHk76y4.html - Panels to Pixels' video on X-Women collider.com/20th-century-fox-superhero-movies/ & www.slashfilm.com/566967/x-men-vs-fantastic-four-movie/ - articles about the X-Men civil war film www.cbr.com/about-that-gay-iceman-scene/ & uproxx.com/hitfix/jean-grey-outs-iceman-in-all-new-x-men-40-in-shining-example-of-how-not-to-be-an-ally/ - articles about the Jean & Iceman situation www.cbr.com/avengers-scarlet-witch-parents-confusing-marvel/ - article about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents www.marvel.com/articles/comics/worst-things-professor-x-has-done-list - article about Prof X brainwashing Wolverine archives.fbi.gov/archives/losangeles/press-releases/2011/new-york-man-sentenced-to-one-year-in-federal-prison-for-illegally-uploading-copy-of-x-men-wolverine-movie-to-internet-site & web.archive.org/web/20090402012139/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm & web.archive.org/web/20201204025435/www.itnews.com.au/news/wolverine-uploader-pleads-guilty-251487 - articles about the X-Men Origins leak uncannyxmen.net/groups/x-babies - article about X-Babies ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpLKiMgNbXY.html - Mr Sunday Movies video on the X-Men Origins leak www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2013/06/07/history-of-the-comic-book-film-rise-from-x-tinction/ - blog about the 1984 film ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s57dSWUOomc.html - Producers Guild of America video on the X-Men Origins leak web.archive.org/web/20180215143944/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-kitty-pryde-movie-works-deadpool-director-1084163 - article about the Kitty Pryde film uncannyxmen.net/characters/peeper/biography - article about Peepers ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ukedo8Rs-Fs.html - GodzillaMendoza's video on Generation X ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iDaJ9mBhlKI.html - Everyday is Midnight's video on X-Men: Destiny lostmediawiki.com/X-Women:_The_Sinister_Virus_(lost_build_of_cancelled_Sega_Genesis/Mega_Drive_side-scrolling_action_game;_1996-1997) - article about X-Women www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1071905-exclusive-matthew-vaughn-wanted-young-wolverine-for-first-class-sequel - article about Matthew Vaughn's X-Men trilogy web.archive.org/web/20150227141334/ew.com/article/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/ - interview about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's relationship in the MCU www.ign.com/articles/deadpool-wolverine-tried-to-bring-vinnie-jones-juggernaut-into-the-mcu - article about Juggernaut in Deadpool & Wolverine web.archive.org/web/20170511152635/www.slashfilm.com/channing-tatum-would-like-to-play-gambit-in-an-x-men-movie/ & web.archive.org/web/20220204111115/variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/ & web.archive.org/web/20190403070756/www.comicsbeat.com/rupert-wyatt-on-how-the-fantastic-four-movie-messed-up-his-gambit-plans/ & web.archive.org/web/20171013065050/ew.com/movies/2017/10/12/channing-tatum-gambit-release-date/ & web.archive.org/web/20170606093149/www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20170612004556/lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit & archive.ph/20201224153305/www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/x-men-ff-and-marvel-crossovers-what-went-wrong-with-ff-and-where-the-hell-is-gambit-the-simon-kinberg-interview/ & web.archive.org/web/20200527173606/www.ign.com/articles/x-men-mister-sinister-gambit-movie-villain-channing-tatum-fox & web.archive.org/web/20170825225911/comicbook.com/2015/06/18/channing-tatum-talks-gambit-and-if-hell-be-in-x-men-apocalypse/ & web.archive.org/web/20170616141853/www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/high-anxiety-hollywood-mega-movies-828200 - articles about the Gambit film collider.com/the-new-mutants-sequel-trilogy-plans-details-josh-boone/ - article about New Mutants 2 & 3 www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-thunderbird-death/ - article about Thunderbird's original death comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/chuck-austens-x-men-holy-war/ - blog about Holy War www.splinter.com/a-brief-history-of-psylockes-complicated-and-racially-p-1793850095 - article about Psylocke's history comicsalliance.com/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-not-for-kids-or-adults-rev/ & www.ign.com/articles/2010/12/03/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-review - articles about The Best There Is collider.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron-wolverine/ - articles about James Cameron's X-Men ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tY-rvs3V2tU.html - Channel NerdGasm's video on the Onslaught Saga comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/chuck-austens-x-men-she-lies-with-angels/ & www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-when-archangel-had-sex-with-a-teenager-in-the-sky-above-her-mom/- article/blog about She Lies with Angels ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o4d7ceVfP1M.html - Jack's World's video on IvX deadline.com/2019/10/x-men-theme-song-lawsuit-marvel-disney-amazon-apple-linda-1202756336/ - article about the Linda lawsuit www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/logan-hugh-jackman-laura-movie-recasting-wolverine-1051147/ & lrmonline.com/news/simon-kinberg-on-the-future-of-foxs-mutant-franchise/ & web.archive.org/web/20181226084251/www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/x-23/52847/logan-heres-the-latest-on-the-x-23-spin-off-movie - articles about th X-23 film web.archive.org/web/20180804185714/deadline.com/2018/08/deadpool-animated-series-demise-louie-return-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-end-date-fx-1202440099/ & web.archive.org/web/20180406185349/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glover-rips-marvel-deadpool-script-exiting-animated-series-1098000 & web.archive.org/web/20180406185354/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glovers-full-deadpool-finale-script-1098022 & web.archive.org/web/20180325232249/deadline.com/2018/03/fx-marvels-deadpool-animated-tv-series-dead-donald-glover-canceled-1202352932/ & movieweb.com/why-donald-glover-deadpool-show-canceled/ & web.archive.org/web/20170511171220/deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-deadpool-animated-action-comedy-series-order-fxx-donald-glover-1202088704/ & web.archive.org/web/20180616001849/www.thewrap.com/stephen-glover-deadpool-show-wasnt-too-black-cut-taylor-swift-episode-donald-glover/ - articles about Deadpool: The Animated Series puzzledpagan.com/2018/03/16/that-time-the-x-men-solved-a-leprechaun-murder/ & puzzledpagan.com/2016/03/19/that-time-the-x-men-met-leprechauns/ - blogs about the X-Men and Leprechauns ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FOSd244Tumc.html - Deadpool: The Animated Series test footage ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHO6mhpe5lE.html - Bullets & Blockbusters's video about Bryan Singer's X-Men 3 cbake76.medium.com/x-men-ashes-of-the-apocalypse-a-forgotten-90s-marvel-game-canceled-during-preproduction-9d53c05df147 - blog post about Ashes of the Apocalypse deadline.com/2017/11/james-franco-multiple-man-simon-kinberg-wonder-woman-allan-heinberg-fox-marvel-hero-1202209591/ - article about the Multiple Man film web.archive.org/web/20180408101051/www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20200131200520/screenrant.com/xmen-apocalypse-movie-failure-fox-new-mutants/ - articles about the original New Mutants ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uykjVgVwzkA.html - Chris Baker's video on cancelled X-Men games web.archive.org/web/20140601014814/www.25moments.com/ - 25 Moments website ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P8lR7Ve10_s.html - pitch trailer for Ashes of the Apocalypse

Gotta love how much they overcomplicated something as simple as wolverine accepting charles' proposal to join the X-Men

The deleted scenes from X-Men 1 and 2 really show how biased Fox was AGAINST CYCLOPS

X-men on the last day of Pride? Going off with a bang

Glad that Pigpen kept his word when he mentioned "Late June", otherwise the video will meet the same fate as Scott the Woz's LEGO video.

Let’s go, it’s 10-men time 😊

Yeah so uh... a little thing you should know about the Insomniac leak that nobody talks about is that it also revealed that Insomniac was actually pressured by Sony into laying off some of it's employees.

Awesome iceberg. Learned a lot of new things about our merry band of mutants. And thanks for the shout-out. Very kind of you!

Now that I really think about it, the X-Men Film Series had SO MUCH missed potential. Scrapped characters, scenes, entire installments, surely at least some of them could've been utilized well. EDIT: I've come realize the root of this stems from most of Fox's decisions.

I love how unexpectedly happy the ending of Eye-Scream's story is. From obscure joke villain to an honorary X-Man.

2:54:28 "And at this time, Mary Jane was 15 years old" Peter Parker: "Shhh, I hear dead people..."

almost 4 hours?!?!?!?! holy shit, we've been blessed by daddy pigpen

“Emma doing a little bit of trolling” is the best way to describe that era lmfaoooooo

To give Jeph Loeb the benefit of the doubt, Ultimates 3 was written while his Son, the person Sam Alexander is based on, was dying of bone cancer. That's why Ultimatum was Magneto grieving the loss of his kids and just wanting everything to die. Leob never recovered from his son's death

Pigpen, I just wanted to say thank you for amazing content. I have enjoyed this video and it might be my new favorite. My dad and I are very big X-Men fans especially when we played the Mvs.C series. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this month and I miss him dearly. Again, thank you man for your content

Goddamn, there are A LOT of canceled scenes with Cyclops from the first X-Men movie What the hell did they have against him lol Also, they REALLY wanted Mr. Sinister to appear in the movies

Damn, Akom are the original Chads! They literally added a random bald dude in a green suit to the X-Men intro for no reason, and when asked to remove him they literally just said no! Like Jesus that is a level of confidence you just gotta respect 😂

Freddy Fazbear was always my favorite X-men member

How many people were going to play Mister Sinister in canceled projects

Never thought that Xavier and Magneto’s kid would try and bring about Human Instrumentality, but it’s nice to see that he’s got a hobby or two.

Hell yes, You've been my main source of sleep and background vid ever since I found you like a year ago, so you making a almost 4 hour iceberg is GREAT for me! Thx daddy pigpen

59:40 "Hnng Colonel, who the hell is this Bishop guy?"

1:25:02 There are people saids that Teen Jean might’ve use her telepathic powers on teen Iceman and she made him thinks he’s gay. That is a possibility. Remember in All New X Men where Teen Warren freaks out about the present, he cries and wants to go back home into the past. And then Jean use her telepathic powers on Warren to forget about what he saw and forcing him to stay in the present along with the Original 5 X Men. Yeah that is pretty messed up, and this the Jean grey before she become the host of The Phoenix. And after Iceman come out as gay, that is only thing most writers do with him. Just Iceman reminds everyone he is gay. Iceman by Sina Grace was also controversial. Sina Grace claims he has different story ideas and Marvel editorial forces him to write Iceman comic.

42:05 IS THAT FREDDY FAZBEAR!? AUR AUR AUR AUR!!

I find it interesting that the voice of Solid Snake himself David Hayter wrote the screenplay of the early X-Men films.

2:19:31 Alot of Claremonts ideas that were previously rejected have been introduced in newer comics or adaptatios. Mystique being Kurt's father, Storm having loved Yukio, Kitty pryde and Rachel summers being Bisexual, a romance between Rahne Sinclair and Dani Moonstar.

Fun fact: David Hayter also helped write Watchmen

7:19 nahhhh Hank must’ve beaten wasp so bad that she really normalised this 😭💀

Much like DCEU's canceled plans being chalked up to Gunn's DCU, the FoX-Men ones can easily be summarized as "Because the Disney buyout." With both of these franchises, it would make for an interesting discussion, if these franchises would've done well or not, if these overhauls never happened.

Idk what my fav Xmen is but ill comment 5 times to boost this vid cuz you deserve it. Your icebergs help me sleep

Rick Remender’s X-Force run is one of the best comic runs ever I would’ve been interested to see how they took inspiration from that for the movie

Thank you so much for blessing us with this!! Your content is fantastic and I appreciate everything that you do!

Let's go! Gonna watch this while grinding out the last of this Double XP weekend in COD

42:00 why is Freddy fazbear just there

It’s time. Time to waste my next 3 and a half hours. Thank you for your service Mr. Pen

Bro, the nostalgia that xmen video game music in the background is waking up is, epic!!💯🤌🏾

The funniest part about the X-Men Origins: Wolverine leak is that fact that a Fox News reporter wrote a review of the leaked workprint for Fox and in it bragged about how easy it was to find on the internet. He was unsurprisingly fired after doing this.

6:35 oh boy, sweet home Alabama

So fun fact. X men destiny was my intro into the bigger xmen universe as a kid and i never got far in the game cause i didn't know it had a save system. But it did end with me developing a crush on Pixie

took me a few days to finish out the video but it was another awesome one man - keep up the good work, can’t wait for Indy!

2:55:49 Pigpen, I love you man, but don't jumpscare me like this ever again

Been waiting for you to make this!!

Take a shot every time Mr. Sinister is mentioned in a cancelled X-Men project

58:44 It is suspected that codename "143" is a reference to Uncanny X-Men #143. This would imply that the movie was supposed to be an adaptation of that issue, which was Alien-like survival horror featuring Kitty facing a lone N'Garai who broke into the X-mansion.

Wow, never even heard about Generation-X pilot, even tho l i love all these early attempts at super hero media, fascinating

1:43 also, thank you for mentioning Legion, that was my fav X-Men show in the entire 2010s, ESPECALLY that scene where David and Farouk singed Behind Blue Eyes, THATS how you do a mind battle

Appreciate your videos and all your effort in making these so much, man.

Olsen and Taylor-Johnson have actually played a couple in 2014’s Godzilla so they kinda have experience in that field

your videos genuinely make my workdays so much better

Mutant and proud to be a fan of you pigpen thanks for another banger happy pride 😤🥳🎉

My ADHD was satisfied for 4 hours...back to rewatching the old icebergs 🔥🔥🔥

Great video, I hope this gets a part 2 someday

The X-Men Origins Wolverine gameplay in the background made my day

Some additional trivia ... - The Phoenix Five were also available as alternate outfits in Avengers Alliance. - Alpha Flight members Puck and Sasquatch appeared in Marvel Heroes: War of the Gems for the SNES, albeit as evil doppelgängers. Evil Sasquatch appears as one of the bosses, while Evil Pucks are recurring enemies throughout the game,

Weirdest thing was definitely mutants can’t catch aids. Even for comic book standards that was just a crazy thing to bring up and never acknowledge. Great video as usual!

Literally needed a new video to listen to while delivering for Amazon 🎉

Amazing content as always

Deadpool telling his story to Fred savage on Christmas as a kid friendly version is the most deadpool thing ever😂

Hell yeah!!! New video I can listen to while I work

A great way to end a great June!

The Gifted TV show is set years after XMEN The Last Stand. The first timeline! There are no XMEN or Brotherhood of Mutants active because they simply both disbanded after the calamity Jean Grey inflicted on Stryker's Island!

Thank you again man for this

YESSS BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS ONE

This is your best iceberg yet

been praying for this 🙏

I hope to god Avengers 5 is a loose adaptation of Avengers vs. X-Men. With an incursion happening that causes 616 to merge with the FoX-Men universe. Leading to a clash between the two teams.

Funny how I always start rewatching your videos before finding a new upload

These vids are the highlights of my year

HUGE DUDE IM SO HYPE TO WATCH THIS

Another weird coincidence about the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver situation is that Elizabeth Olsen and AJT played a romantic couple in Godzilla 2014, right before Age of Ultron, which just adds to the weirdness of it all. Also, predictions for the Indiana Jones Iceberg -Weird Comic Storylines (such as the one that ends with Nazi Zombies or the Star Wars crossover.) -Weird Novel Storylines (Like the one where Indy finds living dinosaurs in Mongolia.) -Indy and Marion’s VERY uncomfortable age gap, as suggested by George Lucas.

I forgot just how bizarre the X-Men can be, to the point where it feels weird that they’re in the same setting as Spider-Man and the Avengers if I’m being honest. I never realized how many cancelled films there were. Just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the studio was prior to the Disney buyout. The Softserve entry broke my brain lmao. Perfect fodder character for a Deadpool story tbh. As for the Linda theme song situation, I’m inclined to believe it’s just a coincidence. The likelihood of the composer for X-Men watching an obscure (for North American audiences at least) post-Soviet Hungarian television show released just a couple years prior is… slim, to say the least. I enjoyed this video quite a bit! Always enjoy learning more about these kinds of topics. Looking forward to the Indiana Jones iceberg! I’ve always been a fan of that franchise despite only liking 2 out of the 5 films lol. The Emperor’s Tomb absolutely slaps to this day.

I watched the entire thing. Good stuff.

first i wanted to say awesome video as always and also happy 4th of July as well I'm also very surprised of an Indiana Jones Iceberg but it's a welcome one . :)

Been waiting for this one love your content Also my favorite xmen is kitty pride

I’m getting into the X-men right now and I just love hearing more about the lore bc it is absolutely hog wild, and always changing dramatically for long periods. Like, I know very little about Cassandra Nova, and her lore just sends me.

This is going to be a good one! Love xmen! Also if possible could you do a Fantastic-Four iceberg in the future?

Watch X-men 97 man. I didn’t watch the other seasons either and found it VERY easy to get into and understand the previous plot point. Hell they even explain it through exposition sometimes. All you gotta know is the X-men characters and that’s it

Holy shit! An iceberg based on Twitter-Men!

Ultimate Wolverine think he Firecracker from The Boys

Only in comics can they make wolverine meeting Prof. X and agreeing to join the X-MEN and make it complicated for no reason.

Honorable mention: ForgetMeNot

42:00 IS THAT THE BYTE OF X?!

NGL I really like the random x men commercial breaks thrown in. I really wanted the burger king toys at one point

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE BATMAN PART 2 AND LEGO ICEBERG LETS GOOOOOO

Man, as a huge X-Man fan, I think there were only a handful of entries I only had a passing idea about, so good job! If you do end up making another X-Men Iceberg, other topics I'd love to see you cover are: Non-Mutant X-Men Kitty saying the N-Word Naked Storm not being discovered for years Birdbrain Wolfsbane's weird baby drama

50:40 it didn't start with x-men vs street fighter but with x-men: children of the atom, in which akuma was a secret character in

Heck yeah I’ve been waiting for one about the x men

I love the video very entertaining. If I could suggest an idea for a future iceberg it would be nice if you could do a Warhammer one. You're not obligated to do it of course

Good video bub.

i dont know if youve watched the og xmen cartoon but you dont need to watch it to watch xmen 97, it adds up to the enjoyment but it aint super required, i watched it with having the vaguest memories of the og cartoon and i liked it a lot

The uppercase X and M in The Gifted's titles likely weren't eventually going to spell Xmen across future seasons, it's more likely just using X and M the usual way Marvel does, like with House of X, Powers of X, X-Gene, Xternals, etc. and M-Day, House of M, The Bishop timeline's M tattoo, etc.

I’m excited for this

15:37 By the way, the practice is called seppuku, you can literally say he "committed seppuku"

Gifted leads directly into DOFP and avidly fits into canon. It's wild that people keep acting like it isn't canon

I didn’t know Freddy Fazbear was a member of the X-Men 41:57

2:55:49 thanks for the violent surge of emotions.

Should've release this during the xmen 97 run

Finally a video I can comeback too everytime I eat

Only real Wolverine fans tried to make fake claws out of pencils/nails as a kid lol

i love you pigpen, best iceberg so far, waiting for the daredevil one!!!!!