All this talk about being able to feel the difference, sounds like we need a blindfold challenge for Pete ;) Tube amp Tube pre-amp Solid state amp Solid state pedalboard amp Digital profiler
I just commented the same thought. I highly suspect that he won't be able to tell the difference between a Friedman IR-D and a ToneX or NDSP Quad Cortex with a profile of the exact pedal settings.
@@208414 That depends entirely on the guitar(s) played, the controls manipulated, and the playing techniques used. Any guitar which can combine pickups in series could give away the modelers if whomever set up the modeler did not know to accommodate that output level (and perhaps even if they did), whereas a valve preamp or valve amp would continue functioning happily. Analog, solid-state preamps and amps like the DSM Humboldt Simplifier series, the Laney IRT Foundry series, the Orange Crush series (especially the Super Crush's JFET preamp), or the Blackstar Debut would be much more interesting in such a comparison. Most modelers do not even have documented input limits.
Lee, please do a video on how to hook up one of these from start to finish. A lot of newer players like myself tend to shy away from these type pedals or digital type rigs because of not knowing how to hook them up. No one on YT shows this, they just show you how it sounds. I would love to buy a Tone X from you but I wouldn't know the first thing about using it.
They are literally self-explanatory man- but if you really need help- they all come with step-by-step instructions on how to connect everything to play. That said- I guarantee you that you could figure it out- if you can't, probably not going to be much of a guitarist, or anything else.
@@stoneysdead689 I’ve got the guitarist part down 40+ years playing. With that being said, I’m an old school pedal board player. I’m older now so I’m not the greatest with new technology! lol I have an audio interface that I have never used.. I guess I could always get my son to hook everything up for me! #oldfart
@@jerrycarroll9068 Haus- I'm 55 years old, been playing for 40+ years myself- and I simply bought one and looked at the jacks, the way they were labeled- and was able to connect everything on the first try without even needing instructions. You're making it far more complex than it is.
um, wow. That sounded really natural and valve vibey. If i see Pete's eyes light up, and he can't help but to riff out, it must be inspirational. Which is great, as I've just outlaid the cash and am nervous. Pairing it with a fender fr10, for jams/rehearsals, and live if not a great fold back.
first time i've gotten to the end of your video's for a while. I'm much more relaxed now. My issue is I've always had bad experiences with modellers and stuck to good old valves. this sits in my comfort zone of hybrid, valve and IR stuff, but kept simple to get a great tone. I watched Pete tweak knobs for the Tumnus and IR-d, and that's exactly my approach to amps.
Placebo or not, some people just prefer certain things from a particular source. Like sex for example. Some prefer it with males, some with females. Others don’t really care which gender it comes from. Does it FEEL the same? Maybe. But knowing what the source is can be important for some people. For others…ToneX.
@@madmod “feel” is a big part of how we, as guitarists, perceive and judge our gear. And “feel” can have an impact on our playing. To the listener, (even if the listener is a tone connoisseur of gear), the ToneX vs the real thing may not be distinguishable, sound-wise. But to an experienced player, blindfolded back to back, they may be able to pick out which is which just by the way they “feel” different. Unless ToneX has been able to 100% replicate the feel of a real tube amp and/or pedal.
Will this rig sound good with a fuzz face running into the front of it. Every one of these types of devices sound pretty good until you decide to go Jimi mode. Please demo with a fuzz face in front of it. Loved the germanium tumnus in front!
You should do a comparison or blind shootout between this and one of the DSM & Humboldt pedals, like the new Simplifier X that just came out. I have the DSM & Humboldt Silver Linings and I absolutely love it, but I also played a Friedman Twin Sister at a store not too long ago and really liked it. I'm curious if the tubes in this pedal make it feel/sound significantly better than a solid state analog pedal like DSM & Humboldt's pedals.
Sounds like the best Marshall you could get. Might seem expensive for a pedal, but a JTM45 reissue will cost you well over a grand, and look very silly unless you don't also place atop a sizable cab.
Leo Gibson has made a very interesting video about this product; apparently, the latency never reaches 0, even with the IR section disabled, something that does happen with the Two Notes. This suggests that there is always a digital-to-analog and vice versa conversion. The latency is on par with some Boss pedalboards in certain cases, according to the video. I'm no expert, all Im doing is repeating what Leo says in the video, sorry if I misunderstood something.
This sounds wonderful. I'm already in the Synergy ecosystem, and I wonder if they can't release this in a form factor like the Syn-1 single module unit but with the extra IR and power amp stuff that this preamp pedal has, so we can re-use our Synergy modules. Friedman is just combining that Synergy preamp work with some digital all-in-one technology here I think.
There definitely is something to pedals like this and the Blackstar stuff. Dual Drive in my case. Its like an evolution of the tube pedals of yesterday. I still have a Blue Tube somewhere.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's planning to do just that. Thought I heard a while back that he's doing an AC30-style amp, soon, anyway. So it would make sense.
Hmm- the IR-x is more my cup of tea in that you can get the higher gain, more modern tones- that said, this one just sounds better man. Idk if they are kind of learning the tech and did a better job or what but- this one has more character, more clarity, more warmth... The IR X at times is a bit harsh, really noisy if you're trying to get those more modern, higher gain tones I was talking about- and the output levels are weird man. On the Plexi channel- ch 1- if you don't boost it, it's really quiet. Plus- they made a mistake by not making the thump parameter accessible from the pedal without need of software because I like changing it on the fly- especially when going from single coils to HBs. To do that though- without using MIDI- you have to connect it to your PC. This one they made sound better- imo, but you still have to connect it to a pc to change the thump parameter- should be blue tooth accessible. If I could do it from my phone with no physical connection- that would work.
What monitors are you using? I heard Genelec but which? I am trying to get a good experience with not using a cabinet but all FRFR solutions I have heard, kind of sound like the sound is in a box and far away, kind of smaller, hard to describe... Even with 10 inch FRFR or 10 inch tops + 12 inch subs DSP managed. I don't understand it, because clearly a PA can playback a recording of a real amp and it does sound like the real amp recorded. But when you play guitar (NOT playback a recorded guitar) through such a PA or FRFR speaker it doesn't feel right when there is now also a real cabinet involved. Somehting is off, but what is it? What I don't understand is, why does a FRFR system or PA speaker with the same physical volume, same speaker size at the same dB level still not feel and sound like a miced cabinet? Am I doing something wrong?
I run a quad 4x12 with v30's and a mesa single rec. what i hear on stage from the box is always different to the front of house mic'd tone. Not bad, but more direct and in your face. Guitar speakers are very different to PA speakers as they are no way near FRFR or PA response. highs roll off at 5-8Khz and lows usually around 100- 150hz. I The warm tone of guitar cab behind you is definitely a struggle with new tech, but you'll find, what you hear is what you'd hear from a front of house or a recording.
What a missed opportunity to make this two channel pedal stereo..guess do some modding myself then.. Its not very smart to tell the listener to leave the other channel for what it is because it is the same. As if it is a channel you only will use when the other is defect....especially if it is not a stereo device. You make the other channel sound like completely useless..BtW,..so good to hear Mr Anderton play so much better than I heard him last time 19 years ago...lol
Definitely sounds better to my ears than the ir-x but theres two design feature details I don't understand purely from a live performance perspective. Why aren't the channel led's above their footswitch and why does the structure switch have the lowest setting in the centre. Seems odd. Am I missing something.?
This is 1:1 exact same preamp as the twin sister, so the structure switch behave the same: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uPGJNY-K2WY.htmlsi=NnyomuzdAyokigYQ&t=783
All of the above, maily FRFR, Studio Monitor, FOH, PA using the BALANCED OUT, while at the same time having the send to a poweramp with a guitar cabinet for monitoring in bigger venue as needed
@@Puddelito Sure, on the back there is a RETURN jack, that is where you should connect it. You should try to use both SEND and BALANCED OUT (with IR BYPASSED) from IR-D and stick with the one you like the most. In a tube amp you would use SEND and in a FRFR and studio monitor you would use Balanced Out with IR.
You can easily connect a cable with a TRS on one end and an XLR on the other one. It seems that the output is balanced so a simple cable will do for you.
Hi. great video! I want to buy a marshall jtm sound and the marshall st20h seems to sound great Which sounds better, friedman ir D or marshall jtm studio st20head? Which Friedman Ir do you like better, Friedman Ir X or Friedman Ir D? To use it alone or as a platform for pedals, which one is better of the 2 Friedman go? Thank you very much!! Greetings! 
get the jtm 20 if you want a small amp or the ir d both will need pedals. the st20h is not that great. the best options are an actual jtm 45 or a dirty shirley/twin sister.
You can use 12AX7s with 12V, it will definitely sound different than running them at higher plate voltage. Check out the Shaka Tube, or the Chandler Tube Driver, in these the distortion is created by a solid state and the 12AX7 adds the starved plate sound.
Not even close. It is not a drive pedal. Hell, it’s not even designed to plug straight in to the front of an amp. It is a tube preamp with many uses/applications. No “drive pedal” can do what this does. I like the many uses/applications it has. You can feed into the effects return of your existing amp with the IR’s off, or go straight to a board with the IR’s on, feed right to an interface for recording, or use for silent practice at home with headphones. You can’t do all that with a tube screamer.
the ir x has more gain on tap and based on the be 100 ,like a higher gain modded jcm 800 .the ir d is based on the dirty shirley less gain more like a jtm 45.
@@politoleo Thanks, I was unaware of that. Brown Eyes and Small Boxes had always sounded different to me; maybe due to cabs or power section saturation or whatever. I perceived Small Boxes to be voiced differently, more upper mid-focused and slightly lower distortion and Brown Eyes to be higher distortion and darker.
The Victory V4 Pre-amps, obviously do not include a power-amp nor any poweramp emulation or IR's The Victory V4 Amps do come with a poweramp which can drive a cabinet and they also have Two Notes embedded poweramp and speaker emulation.
I have changed one pre amp tube in the last five years. I’ve got many tube amps and never had any in the shop. Three SS amps went to the tech in that period.
i am 57 now and made my living playing for 2 decades. i have never ''blown'' a tube. just the fact that you said 'concert' tells me all i need to know.
they usually last more than 2000 hours in optimal state , ive worked on live gigs with vintage tubes on 3 amps in the last ten years with no problems. i have a tube tester so i can tell when they are weak. transistors and modelers are way more consistent and reliable................but they sound like shit.
