Anti Submarine Warfare 

3:50 In reality, the Budyonny would have blown her own stern off by reversing over a depth charge pattern. There was a reason ships dropped patterns at speed.

As a real sailor who serve in the navy..in real life the most time consume and boring task is ASW, mapping and mine sweeping.. but in these game it literally lit..will try it

Submarine :*Surfaces* Entire team: ~insert you are already dead meme~

I can't imagine how the game would be if I-400 (Japanese submarine aircraft carrier) is in the game

BB : yeah" i know I'm obsolete

So as you can see there is no anti-submarine warfare for linear ships. A brand new recipe of a torpedo soup from our chief Lesta. Bon appetito!

0:59 SATISFACTION!!!

I was the ennemy carrier in the battle of the buydony "teivadrien"

A few things, First of all, i guess depth charges are mini nukes since even if you drop em 100m away from the sub they will still damage it badly and its next to impossible to dodge since in order to go to any depth below 50m you need to use a consumable. Now i guess the submarine is basically a living organism that has to consume spinach like fucking Popeye to gain strength to exceed that 50m depth else i have no idea what they are thinking. Speaking about that either WG has invented WW2 proximity fuse depth charges or the ships have the best, most hardened veterans on them judging by how easy it is to determine and set the detonation depth for the charges. Secondly, WG takes the concept of submarines and murders it so it can fit that RNG arcade system they have build their game around. A submarine's lifeline is stealth, the ability to hide and attack when no one expects it. If stealth is compromised then the only thing a sub could do back then was dive and i mean dive not float a few meters below periscope depth. Thirdly, apparently its cooler to shoot HEAT rockets or drop bombs to a submerged target rather than actually drop depth charges from planes. I wont question the physics behind that as Im sure some genius will say that its possible, so i will just say that people that were conducting ASW back in WW2 using planes didnt have a clue on how to do it according to WG. P.S. Who the fuck thought that protection ignoring, homing torpedoes like these are a cool idea? To whoever did, how the hell do you still have a job?

I'm not against submarines, actually been waiting for them for long time, figured just be a matter of time before they got in. However I'm looking at these like I did with wheeled vehicles in world of tanks. while a cool and interesting addition......wheelies didn't break the game but they've become pretty decent sized headache. Submarines are looking to be the same. As person who mainly works with battleships, these are going to be bit nasty problem, yeah argue destroyers and cruisers can deal with them but I've rarely ever seen battleships get escorted. 8/10 times end up alone and anyone who is with isn't there to support just happened be going same way. As for he shell damage against those, 9/10 times ap or he fired from a battleship into a destroyer is useless, just doesn't do damage, not gonna be any better with submarines. Think 8 two ton ap shells smashing into the hull would turn a destroyer into swiss cheese, never does, never. There is already usually a constant mess of torpedoes in the water, having 4 destroyers and 2 carriers targeting you alone because you are alone sucks, I've been destroyed and sunk before even being able leave base, destroyers rushed, my ship is slow giant by time torpedoes came up on screen didn't even have speed to try and turn. Now there are submarines to add to it. Welp bring on the subs! Just another thing that can get by you drop torpedoes and chances are never gonna be able spot it anyway. I've watched some of your gameplay, yeah the "targets torpedo protection is ignored" , yeah no, for me that's big NO, that's just gonna be infuriating as a player that sentence alone is my biggest issue with subs currently, single group of torpedoes can already cripple or outright destroy a battleship instantly and that's with protection. Getting nailed by torpedoes that ignore all protection? NOPE. Either way, thanks Toptier for releasing these videos, have some idea what's coming, hard say whether it's another problematic thing that will prevent me from returning or incentive bait for something new to return to play, most likely be 1st option knowing how wg does things. Have a good day Toptier should you see this much less read thru it to this point!

Amazing job men

New subs i like ur vid with text description,maybe u can use mic to explain.

7:00 these are moments that are very aesthetic, something like an escort squad hunting down a sub

I think that CVs should have a harder time attacking subs. Rockets really don't make sense in an ASW attack and at least forcing the CV captain to order that the bombers have depth charges loaded before take off would make the weigh the options of attacking surface targets vs attacking subs.

AP shells have a timer, they explode underwater, HE shells explode on contact with water

Noice

1:05 nice.

Wait, can you test how british light cruisers will work with regards to their guns?

Sub is the new dd for CV

Yes

That moment you've not played sense the CV rework and suddenly see subs. Time to DL it again and bust my DDs out and go huntin boys. *Edit also, really wish they made their icon more of a cylinder, looks too much like a DDs icon to me.

So basically BB's are screwed in 1v1 sitations against a sub !!!!

as for now, nothing you can do as CV and BB, also the cruiser who carry DP is limited to Rianda, Dallas, Budyonny, and Perth. all the job for hunting SS is depend on your DD and if your DD die on first match you almost 100% dead.. I hope they add at least a tool for BB, CV, and CA to counter SS like Submarine spotting plane as PBY Catalina or Kolibri. aircraft squadron who can carry deep charge, also for some cruiser who have radio accoustic consumable can came in handy to find SS but can't be use to kill them. just avoid their torp becase small chance that SS gonna resurface for recharging remembering they can recharge underwater just by standing still or go on 1/4 cruising speed

Btw, I think I heard that submarines could also lay mines.

Every ship needs a way to deal with submerged subs, IMO. Otherwise, we'll end up with games where's it's a couple subs left on one side and the other is completely unable to touch them unless they surface.

Wait did they add them

When will the asia server have submarine

I can't help but think thos depth charges have too much range. You dropped a few behind you, whilst the enemy sub was 0.5-0.9 kilometers away, and still you hit. I don't pretend to know how ASW works or say it should only work by hitting them dead on, but shouldn't the effective range be smaller?

Anyone else watching the poor submarine get fired at from all angles/ dive bombed imagining the captain on the tower screaming “Schnella!!!!!” Let’s just hope they make it to the African coast

this make it look so easy, but it only works if the submarine is 5meters under water or higher, so submarines can flee very quick, cant they?

K first thought is DDs need hedgehogs ASAP

I'm just hoping that they make british carriers the best ships at anti submarine warfare, that would pretty much sum up their approach to historical accuracuracy

Interesting video. I was wondering why players were using CV's in sub matches. Also, it is nice they added some depth charges to some of the cruisers. However, how the heck did you get a VT-61?! That wasn't available when I launched the lasted test server.

Are sub have unlimited O2 or not?

What game is this?

HOW I CAN GET SUBMARINE!!!! PLEASE HELP

Is that how CV anti sub in real life like that too?

im convinced that asw is already well balanced in the game in all ways except for one. battleships, especially slow pigs like fuso, have no hopes of survival with subs in a game. they should do some type of anti submarine second battery focus consumable or something if they dont just want subs to peak up in front of BBs every game and ruin it. either that or destroyers and cruisers have to start doing serious escort work, but ive long lost hope of teamplay being focused in this game since its just an arcade game

When will they add Taiho?

Yeah I kinda noticed that the second an enemy ship gets above you in a sub you're fucked. I mean rightfully so you're slower and just got yourself in an extremely bad position. But like even if you used your consumables and dive to the deepest depths to disappear, when you come up to normal level again you get spotted, the guy who was dropping charges on you isn't too far away, spots you again and finishes you off

As i was expecting, this is literally the easiest class to balance

Id laugh if they give the Japanese Destroyers their ASW rounds :D

I know DD is good sub hunter better than light cruiser

One question : how can we play in this game mode ? I wanna try the subs

Bogue and Chaser as premium tier 6 CV Anti Submarine without Bogue class is wasted

They need to either give BBs depth charges or nerf cruiser HE spam. I want there to be something in the game that BBs counter, rn it feels like thats not the case, at least not to the same degree that CAs counter DDs or DDs counter BBs. I'd rather nerf HE spam because submarines were a big threat to battleships IRL, as battleships historically did not carry depth charges or if they did it was only a small number for last ditch self-defense rather than dedicated ASW. I think having submarines would allow battleships to have buffed surface warfare capabilities without becoming OP, and all in all would make the game more realistic and its gameplay more diverse. But either way something's gotta give, introducing subs without either giving BBs a way to counter them or strengthening them against cruisers will make BBs no fun to play. I single out cruisers/HE spam because I feel battleships are well balanced relative to carriers and DDs as the game currently is (if anything carriers are a little UP but that's an entirely different discussion).

Submarine already global ?

Blue steel(anime) BB can destoryed submarie

Hey Toptier, can you take a request? RN carpet bombers and Ark Royal bombers against subs?

The first*

WG should have it where if a submarine has a fire or flood, they need to surface to have the DoT timer to start and Repair party will still be able to work underwater

There is the proof the subs are won't hard to hunt As a BB stay behind DDs, CLs and you wont be a sub target easy Edit: don't rush in the objective

So battleship are desperate against sub

Why not just give everyone depth charges?

I can't use submarines because I'm still at the 0.93.

Seems pretty easy, idk what everyone is whining about them for

Considering that i play the game in mobile this feature wouldnt come out im sure of it. Many also say that this is not so good of a game feature.

Hms flower would do better job. Covetter.

As soon as subs are added to the game I am deleting it.

Reload time for depth charges is unrealistic. Drop patterns off racks. Or you fire from pots that need to be reloaded. A key with 9 sec reload is laughable.

British bomber are better for hunting submarines.

Asw Is a bad word for indonesian XD And you just did

How is POSSIBLE TO PLAY WITH subs??? Never saw them...

Yeah, reverse over your own depth charges 🙄 This flat earth game is shiiiit

when is this sub come out to globel