Antigravity Lithium Ion Battery - FERRARI 458 INSTALLATION 

Dan, one thing to keep in mind with the test you did on the Antigravity. When you saw 13.24 volts on the battery, you need to keep in mind that these do not come fully charged. If you look at the diodes on a Ctek charger, when you first hook it up, it will only light up three diodes. The Antigravity batteries come with what is called storage charge, and that is about 45%, not 100%. You should charge it fully with a Ctek Lithium XS charger, and then do the test leaving the lights on. Trust me, even with the 40Ah battery you got, that will not drain in an hour. You took a battery that was not charged and put it against your Interstate which was fairly charged. When your Antigravity is fully charged, it will show about 13.5-13.6 volts.

Can't wait until these become more mainstream with more competitors and prices come down! Maybe we'll even start to see them in production cars.

What a great review. I’ve been looking for a battery solution for my MKIV Supra, and I think I may have just found my battery. Thank you Sir. Love your positive spirit too.

Lead acid batteries typically work great in short discharge and stay fully charged situations like a car battery. Basically you start the car, short discharge, and then it stays fully charged while driving. Lithium Ion batteries typically are best for long discharge cycles like in power tools or electric cars. They start fully charged and maintain good voltage while being discharged for a long time until depleted. Best practice is 30% for drain and 80% charge for full. This type of battery is really not being fully utilized in this application and the small drain/fully charged state that cars do to maintain the battery may actually be detrimental to this type of battery. Most modern cars have battery minders built into their systems now so unexpected battery drains are prevented, such as leaving lights on etc. Lithium Ion batteries are engineered for repeated fast charge/long drain cycles.... :-)

Fantastic product! Thanks for sharing, Dan!

Enjoyed that Dan , & the cars looking very shiny , nice work 👍👍👍

Thanks for sharing this is very useful and way much better than ordinary batteries. Hope to get one someday.

Great video Dan... I had to share it on FB. !! It really is a great product, love the features

Great video as always, and very interesting. I have to say your ferrari looks brand new in the garage.. It has a beautiful shine 😁😁

Great video; great for the wife/ children car in the winter time gives me "peace of mind " that the family's fine .

Dan this battery is insane and you just solved a terrible problem I have with all my cars. My 458 is due for a new battery and this is what I am getting. I think I am going to be as excited as you are. This is a great hook up. Thank you.

Thanks again Dan very Informative.....Have been using battery tenders for years and years.....Going to look into the New battery.....

I wrote to you about Antigravity Lithium Ion Batteries in a youtube comment earlier. You wrote that Lithium Batteries was too expensive. I am glad you also realized that they are worth their cost. Antigravity has also been super nice and serious to me even though I am not a famous youtuber ...

Great presentation ...well done !

What great timing! I spent the morning researching lightweight batteries for my old Austin Healey...I’m on the site now seeing what they have that will work for me...

Wow!! Thats huge!! Definitely picking this up! Thank you for this information.

Damn that is pretty bad ass Dan! I’m going to consider this when I need a new battery. My car same thing, is a hog with parasitic loss. Thanks for the great video!

That is awesome! I could have used a battery like this two years ago. I had a bmw 5 series 2004 that kept raining the battery. Left me many times in a parking lot looking for a jump. Awesome video!

Wow cool product! I like all the test you did with a base line with the old battery. The key fob is perfect for these cars as you know most the batteries are not easily accessible. With the weight savings I'm wondering if so manufactures might put this in some of the track focused cars.

Very cool tech. Will have to keep an eye out here in Australia when the time comes to change batteries for the 360 Spider. Thanks for the video!

What a huge butt saver! I remember being in the Ferrari Club before and the battery issue was a big deal. Love the puppy shirt.

I love your channel, thanks for all you DIY about the 458. Please do more! By the way, what is the model of your phone holder? I am looking to buy one.

Daniel! That is so cool! I definitely want one!

Love this. Just replaced a battery in my work truck a month ago. Great idea

Great video Dan. Thanks for the hook up

Great experiment, thanks for sharing.

Awesome product! Way to test it out, I would have freaked out about possibly shorting out some sort of sensitive electronics going that low on voltage lol

Second time watching this episode !! Great job !! Great product !! Hey, if Loeper or Richard decide to get them, do a video on their installs, I bet it'd be fun !!

Dan, great info!

Man that's awesome battery!! I'm definitely gunna look into those when my car needs a new battery

First - I have to say I LOVE this channel for showing it’s possible to do some basic maintenance on a supercar yourself! Keep the videos coming! Some thoughts on this battery though: - lead-acid batteries have some level of “self discharge” meaning even without a parasitic load, they lose charge over time. Add in that most vehicles DO have some parasitic drain, and hence you need a battery tender. I wouldn’t say that getting rid of the self-discharge is enough to say you don’t need a tender anymore. I still think you’ll need the tender (and the LiFePo battery probably can’t use the same tender you have now). - there are already some exotics that have a Lithium battery from the factory, but they still require a (specific) tender because of the parasitic loads. The “restart” disconnect is cool, but what if it were to malfunction? On McLaren you can’t open the door without breaking the window because you need power for the lock, the door latch and to drop the window 1/4” to swing the door (as an example) - some other posts are correct in pointing out that you don’t want to have to reset service monitors in the background, because every time you store your car for a few weeks, the “restart” protection is going to kick in and disconnect the battery (heck, if that’s all you want, you can get a stand-alone battery disconnect). Not sure what else happens on the Ferrari if you disconnect power (clock, radio, seat memory, nav?). - I really dig the Tracker! CTek also makes one for AGM/Lead batteries, but it looks like the Antigravity version runs much faster in real-time and has the additional feature of logging actual cranking performance - that’s cool - interesting that the Ah (amp-hour) ratings are somewhat low compared to lead or AGM of the same size. Amp-hour is a good measure of how long the battery can provide power. I get that it has way more cranking power (which is a measure of instantaneous - not sustained power). In a way these batteries have less power before they will NEED to trip the “restart” system and disconnect. - I think this battery is cool if you’re really interested in dropping some weight or have a parking situation where you can’t have a tender - but for my money, I think I’d go with an AGM battery (if your car still has a wet cell) and CTek battery tracker and battery tender or at best go to the Antigravity battery + tracker + tender and just figure it pays that the battery will live longer. I really hope the price comes down over time and I can justify this as good preventative maintenance, but at $800 it’s kind of hard for what it does. ** disclaimer ** I mentioned CTek a couple of times. I DON’T work for them, sponsored by them or anything, just have used their products on classics and modern exotics that rebrand their tenders (even Antigravity recommends CTek as a tender for their LiFePo battery).

That is a super cool battery. It would be great for things like boats and RV’s as well.

That's awesome Dan. I need to get that battery for my Porche Cayenne Turbo

Had their RS30 battery, was truly incredible bit of kit and only weighed in at 7lbs and was good enough to power my F-Type SVR, their batteries are truly fantastic. Only reason RS30 is not in my 458 is because it was too tall! However I shall be getting one of these because at 16lbs it is vastly lighter and superior battery to the stock Ferrari unit.

I have been wondering for years why cars don't track the battery voltage and amps and when it becomes critical, have some sort of master shutoff. Looks like these guys took it to the next level and said "why not just put it in the battery?" Bad ass!!! Glad they decided to work with you as I have never heard of these and I need to get one!! You should also tell them "Hey. Awesome product and if you need anything in the future of your company software wise.....call me" haha.

30lbs lighter!!!!! That's awesome. I may have to grab a couple of them for my toys.

I'd really like to have seen the parasitic test over a week like was done to the interstate battery and then use the jumpstart feature. Also, it would have been interesting if you used a new interstate battery, to keep it apples and apples so to speak. Nice video, I'll have to check these batteries out myself. I like the fact you can easily shed 30lbs from the car. That's not easy to do.

OMG what a killer product! I'm totally buying one. Great video Daniel, love the tests you ran! So bad ass! 💪

Very cool just bought one,, thanks

Cool technology!

Yeah well done, great video. Any upgrade is good however I would advise checking voltage regulator. Definitely charging voltage of 13.7 is too low for standard car battery. Maybe ok for your new atigravity? I hope it is. Good luck with all your future projects.

Just came home from bringing my Range Rover back to life, which stood about 8 month around. What a coincidence ☺️

Ordering one now 👍

this is freaking awesome!

very cool battery! great demonstration :) not cheap, but probably worth the peace of mind that it brings :)

Awesomeness. It’s gonna be sweet!

What app are you using to monitor your charge levels?

This is sweet,maybe not cheap,but still very good !

Pretty cool technology That is impressive

perfect video for us northeastern USers who are preparing for winter

Wow 😮 that is awesome!

Pretty cool! I would think you'd want to stash that remote under your car somewhere so that if you're ever out of town and the battery shuts itself off, you have a way to turn it back on.

The problem is not starting the car, the problem is the car's sophisticated safety systems need enough juice from the battery (which has been depleted) these systems are critical to the safe operation of a 458 (or any modern Ferrari for that matter). Back in the days of the 308 they did not have traction control or electronica stability control systems.

If the battery shuts itself down then I wonder if that resets all of the electronics in your car each time. Very cool battery and another awesome video. Thanks

How old is your battery... appears it needs replacing soon. That tracker is freaking SWEET 😲

The weight savings alone is amazing. To save 30 pounds in a Porsche 911 you have to pay an extra $20,000 just to get stupid nylon door straps and plastic windows! This battery is awesome! I will defiantly buy this product based solely on this video!

Hey dan, glad to see your getting sponsored! I still remember the video where you and meg told us if you hit a certain sub amount you would be able to get the 458. How far you've come!

Any issue with amp draw exceeding the cooling ability of the alternator when the battery is low and the vehicle is idling?? Or does the battery have a BMS that limits amp draw on charge?

Very nice feature with the auto-shut off function, i would just keep the remote somewhere in the car (on the outside), never understand why more of these cars don´t have some way of plugging in 12V cable outside (and for a Ferrari on a trickle charger i would actually fashion something like a vacuum cleaner extension cord from the back of the car.

I had some problems in my Golf GTI with drainage. These batteries are not for sale in Europe but i did order the tracker on Amazon and they ship to Europe :)

Def a very cool product! The prices are pretty crazy though! If they do last 10+ years it *might* be worth it though depending on how long your car battery lasts. Mine typically lasts 3-5 years and costs about $150.

I am on 12 years and counting on my AGM Odyssey PC1200 battery, and I have several of them in my various cars. These batteries look interesting, but I am not fully convinced that they are worth it. They are light and powerful, but cost is high and durability still needs to be proven. Recycling Lithium batteries is another con. Thanks for posting your video though.

Hello !!! Nice video, i need to change the battery in my F458 italia , where i can get one of those ??? Thankssss

Very interesting.

Neat vid on this product. Between the oil, power stearing, and fuel injector o-ring leaks, my car already has enough fire concern without adding a lithium battery to the equation. I thought about a li-ion battery setup on my work truck, but after seeing one catch fire, I decided against.

Freaking awesome 😎

I'd have been afraid that your test would have introduced some weird gremlins into the electrical system. My car is in storage on the trickle charger for the season... maybe get Antigravity to extend the discount to the Spring when we are reunited!

I may have missed it but was there a particular model # for the antigravity battery?

Just got a 488, thinking aboit buying this battery. You can’t plug it in using the magnetic tender after swapping out, right? Also, what’s your experience been letting it sit and not trickle charging it? Tnx!

Which model battery did u use and what was the battery AH

Ok I’m sold 😊

I have a code popping up in my 458 (Engine control system failure) and I am thinking it may have something to do with the voltage. I was in the process of purchasing the Braille I48CS Lithium Ion Battery which prices in at about $2,500. Have you done any comparisons with the Braille to the Antigravity ? Also have you seen this code on your 458 ?

Also Lithium Ion batteries don't like the cold. So any environments colder than 0 F would not be advised. Electric cars actually have heaters built into the battery management system to keep them warm in winter climates. :-)

Bloody hell, I need this as I have no power at my garage and my M6 always usually sat there 3-4 weeks and "just" about starts.

Right under your video they put a Mitsubishi battery ad haha. This is a really cool battery I'm going to check out the company and see if they do marine batteries because this would also be cool for a boat

Now that you've had some time with the new battery, I'd be interested to know how long you've let it sit before starting it. My car may sit for 2 or 3 weeks without being started, and I'd like to get a battery that will start without having to be put on a tender.

Hey man, I am a new subscriber and I really like your channel. I have a couple of question for you concerning Ferrari's. Do you actually own the cars or do you lease then for few years ? I was wondering since I saw you went from the 430 to the 458. Second question, If you buy them, you buy them with how many miles aprox. and at what budget ? From an individual or a luxury garage dealer ? Thanks and keep doing your very informative videos on Ferrari repairs ! If I can make a suggestion it would be useful to detail the repair procedure, show us, hot to, talk about the time it takes and the cost or every piece you replace.

Is your car lowered or are the wheels just bigger than stock? Or both

Cool battery. I like the battery status, but it will draw power making it lose power even faster. Cool gadget though. I just use my tenders and batteries will last 3-4yrs. Eventually this technology will become common place when OEM's start using it. At that time prices will drop, but will still be over $500-600 since an OEM battery is expensive as is. Great review to let us know how it works.

I wish this battery would remove the “Ferrari beeping”. Whoever designed that sound needs firing.

sick!!!

Dan there is some info I think you should make an update video about. You can probably read about it in the response I posted to anther poster. But it is just important to know that it is not a complete failsafe. If it sits in the shut down mode and goes completely dead, the battery is basically toast. So it's an emergency feature, not a replacement for a charger. I learned this the hard way when I found that my charger had been disconnected from two cars over the winter by mistake. Both my AG Group 49 and Group 48 were gone. I did get AG to share costs as the batteries was in their last month of warranty, but they told me that it cannot sit in the shut off mode for longer than 4-6 weeks at the most.

I had battery issues on my motorcycle. Bought one of these a few years ago and has never needed a charge. Holds the charge for years. I always wondered why it was so difficult to find one for my car.

Interesting and very cool! They don't have my year Mas, but I'm sure they will get there. ROI seems decent if you figure a new battery every 3 years, it washes out.

This would be such a great thing to add to my 430. Do they have compatible batteries for the 430 still? And is there Any new codes? Thanks!

The Cayenne has the feature of anti drain built in....its a nice feature

Nice features on that battery. I think I will use Antigravity battery too when the current Interstate battery is dead

That will be my next battery!

On battery tenders, you have to be careful what you connect to a Li-Ion battery. Some tenders have a high-voltage mode that triggers if the battery is low. That's fine with a Pb-acid battery but may destroy a Li-Ion one. I'd still recommend a tender, particularly if your car has a tracker as they both use juice and don't like it if that auto cut-out trips; the tracker may log that as a theft attempt. But there are Li-Ion compatible tenders out there.

Nice!! Great info!! :-)

does this work with F8?

So the automatic shutoff/built-in jumpstart looks like a pretty awesome feature. But if it shuts off the battery then you're still going to be stuck resetting the clock, computer, etc if you run down the charge to the point that it engages. If that is the case and your car has some level of parasitic drain, you have to wonder if it's more annoying to hook up the trickle charger regularly or have to reset everything (assuming the battery drops to that low level regularly).

Do you need to register the battery to car?

Looks like a great product.... :-) I like the app ability... :-) Perhaps just using the hardware for the app (Battery Tracker) would be great when using a lead acid battery. It could help determine when and if a battery tender should be used.

So ..can i use this to start project cars ? Cranking amps.? Use a gel battery now

Does it reset your clock and stuff every time?

Any long term update on this battery? Would be good to know how it’s been performing over the year. Thanks.

I want one but need a new code. Let me know if you have an active one

can you get the discount extended ? that is about dealer markup ! was a really good deal ! thx I got that as a dealer that applied to them !

Wow. Sold... do you think the Antigravity battery would exceed the performance of a deep cycle battery? I could get an additional one for my truck.