Antinatalists CONFRONT DEBATERS in London 

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Man these NPC'S crack me up, that one dude seriously wondering who will pay taxes if no one was here lol.

Nobility in suffering, sure, like my relative who died recently demented and defecating on the floor in a care home.

I cant get over how many people claim suffering is GOOD. Thanks to you all for getting out there and spreading such an important message!

" But I didn't choose to be born and I turned out fine" Okay great! You're not getting the point, and not everyone is you.

NPCs high on copium and delusionium everywhere.

If humans keep on procreating endlessly then in future last generation will suffer the most and pay the price for the karma of previous generations

The extent human beings will go to for self-rationalizing inflicting unwarranted harm knows no bounds! Thank you guys for doing and sharing your outreach.

Does anyone think that having 8 billion + people on the planet already is enough?

Some of this is so frustrating to watch

“The idea of bringing someone into the world fills me with horror. I would curse myself if I were a father. A son of mine! Oh no, no, no! May my entire flesh perish and may I transmit to no one the aggravations and the disgrace of existence.” ― Gustave Flaubert

“You’re denying a ghost” 👻

As a fellow AN, you’re doing a magnificent job! Ignorance is what some people have while others can be receptive/agree with such arguments. Fortunate that this position will keep on spreading so that more suffering is prevented.

" 13:42 There is nobility in taking on suffering." Tell that to the kids who are currently dying in a hospital from cancer. I don't think they give a shit about nobility.

So when a little girl is kidnapped and atrocities are committed against her, she becomes noble. And the mother whose beautiful little girl has been kidnapped never to be seen again, becomes noble. How delusional can a person be?

The USA DESPERATELY needs a debate square like you have there in the UK! It's brilliant. If I was younger and had the energy I would start one right here in Sacramento California. Excellent debate on this video by the way. Great content as always.

Why is the legacy thing an argument? Like, name on person who is so important that they should have kids to pass on their "legacy."

hope you still ask the public the question how much does child owe their parent vs how much a parent owes their child?

Dictatorship opinion over a child that doesnt exist🤪

I don't think it's right to create more needs in this world, when there are plenty of existing needs already in place, as it makes no sense to add more fuel to the fire. -"Oh yeah,......speaking of fire, let's talk about tobacco for 2 hours."

Denying a ghost....

You guys are doing god's work 👍👍👍

My favorite antinatalist RU-vid page!

You guys should be recognized by the FIDE as antinatalism grandmasters

Loved this! I think you've planted a seed in a lot of brains. Well done. I especially liked John's discussion with the bearded guy and the older people. I'm of the older ilk and I know a few men my age who are very concerned about continuing the economic Ponzi scheme and try to frighten young people into procreating for the nation, as if it's their duty.

Damn the majority of people suck

It’s a shame the anti-capitalist didn’t seem to consider the intersections between anti-natalism and anti-capitalism eg how capitalism is dependent on procreation - each new human is another worker to exploit and consumer to profit from.

Oooof that blonde dude with the fedora - you just know that guy shows up there every week and everybody just sighs

Once we're actually "in the game", we want to "live long and prosper". And, though we may live long, relatively speaking, and may even prosper, that will come to an end. Along the way, the lives of many, perhaps most, of those we cherish or care about to any degree, will also come to their conclusions. No matter how enjoyable any of our particular shows may be--and many millions suffer terrible shows from start to finish--the curtain eventually comes down on it. And what for? What was it all about?

"You're denying the ghost babies omg!!!" ...I don't believe I've ever ran across such idiocracy. Talk about a stretch. 😅

Lmao capitalism 😂 also I see what you hv been talking abt. Ppl hv a hard time remembering ur talking abt ppl who don’t exist. It’s hard for ppl who do exist to fathom not existing; maybe that’s why they keep forgetting. Do they cry for the time before they existed? Until I heard someone ask that question I had no understanding of what it meant to not exist. It made me feel btr abt being dead someday. Being reminded that I didn’t exist before made death seem almost innocuous. I’m finally glad someday I get to die. Being alive is exhausting! Ty for the content. Ik this position isn’t popular

I love watching public displays like this and SHK cause it makes me realize why they taught us it in school😂

I have just come to a conclusion that the world has nothing to offer that is of interest to me. My parents have indeed done me a complete disservice created me. This world is empty, dissatisfying, stressful, boring, uninteresting, forces me to endure for no reason, and as Amanda has said, most of my needs are simply not met on a daily basis. And I have only lived some thirty odd years here. This is wonderful isn't it?

The "ghost" one made me lose brain cells..

People are SO STUPID. I'm trying to stay respectful but I can't deal with it anymore.

There is nothing more humanatarian than not reproducing like a mindless breeder. It's not even hard to NOT do something.

nice work man

I can answer this tax question He’s not thinking about the harm,of bringing more unnecessary life here he is just focusing,on the continuation of the hamster wheel system most people are not deep thinkers they’re just surface minded thinkers.

I wasn’t surprised at all by any of the responses: It’s always the same type of horsesh*t - excuse, excuse, excuse. You are responsible each time your child is unhappy and wishes they were never born. Most humans are not REALISTIC and use delusions to cope.

This was a frustrating listen. Y'all have the patience of saints.

What does it matter about about bloodlines and carrying on genes? Jeez. So frustrating.

12:10 Some antinatalist should call themself "Ghostbuster", that would be so metal Aslo, good editing of the video btw

Great video lawrence!

Man that John guy is witty, intelligent and devilishly handsome 😍 You should have him on more often (and pay him half of your Patreon money💰)

Good stuff.

Nice to see a speakers corner debate that isnt just muslims vs christians 👍

loved the video .

How often do you do this? I wanna support you guys if I visit London

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brilliant....from herne hill

0:06 yo you got Jesse Pinkman to join you guys, nice!

I don’t think antinatalism is dissociated from reality in any way, I think it’s merely that humans are too much of a slave to their bodies, needs and desires to make the kind and rational choice ( similar tragedies have repeated itself in history since the beginning of time).

I really wish there were such places in the USA... I cannot think of any. I'd probably hang out there all the time. ... As for people bringing up Buddhism in regards to antinatalism, I don't think it's comparative, because Buddhists believe in reincarnation, and so non-existence is followed by yet another life, and if they achieve enlightenment, then they go to Nirvana, which is a state of experience, and is also a supernatural afterlife. So it'd fall on the antinatalist to prove Nirvana is real. But, in Buddhism, no matter what, if you don't go to Nirvana, then you'll be reincarnated one way or another. If the body you were going to be reincarnated into turns out to not be born, then you'd just go into some other body that will be born. And there is no "nothingness" before you exist, and so, in the same way Generic Subjective Continuity makes it so _if it isn't one life it's another _ -- so too does Buddhist reincarnation. There's just no escaping one experience or another. But let me take it a step further. No matter which religion or whatever worldview is true, it's always true that: Only Experience is what's experienced. We know this to be true from our own lives. When we go unconscious while asleep, we don't get to experience that unconsciousness. From our point of view all moments of unconsciousness are skipped over, until conscious experience resumes, or starts again. Even if you went unconscious for billions of years, and during that time all of your atoms were "switched out" and replaced by other atoms (which is actually happening as you're reading this), effectively making you a different person, that very long period of time-from your perspective-would have been skipped over faster than the blink of an eye. Unconsciousness is a proverbial time machine. And so, because only Experience is what's experienced; even not being born cannot stop one experience or another from following non-existence. If it were not this life (the one reading this right now) that was the one imposed, then it would have been some other life-one that _was_ born-that was the one imposed. Anyways, good video. I enjoy watching people discuss this.

I don't think AN's were ever convinced to be that way. They found out that they were. Seems like trying to convice someone is useless.

Approximately how many people attended?

Good video. BUT! On an unrelated note, I see at the 1:56:00 mark of The Origins Podcast between Lawrence Krauss and Peter Singer they talk a little bit about antinatalism. The rest of the video is hard to watch with Peter just being a welfarist and an apologist for animal agriculture.

Omg they have ZERO arguments wtf 😂😂

11:18 😆 🤣 😂 this wacky Anti-Capitalist completely red herringedthe entire topic

23:57 "Evil Capitalism" #7,498 🙄 What a 🤡 that guy is

👻 Ghost Babies We Antinatalists are Ghost Busters! 👻 🤣

23:58 you missed one "capitalists" for the counter

the capitalism guy !😂😂😂😂😂😂

Do you know of any active groups or meetups in London? Would be good to meet some like minded folk

Lemme join

Hhhh

1st

7:18 причем тут это вообще? что за кринж тётя гонит?

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According to a recent study, anti-natalism is strongly associated with Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Depression also plays a key role