If ever there was an orchestral score that reaches both out to the cosmos and to the inner soul. Then this is it. I've heard a few amazing attempts at the finale reconstruction, I'm not convinced at any of them. The problem is the spirit of the work and to maintain the Bruckner orchestration throughout. It's as if the composer himself was taunting us on how this piece should finish. Thanks for uploading
Bartje Bartmans: thank you very much for sharing these excellent recordings. Very good also your work to a settling of scores of all these masterpieces. Magnificent the "Royal Concertgebow Orchestra" directed by the great Bernard Haitink. Greetings from León, México.
Thank you so much for this series of Bruckner symphonies! It has been a hugely enjoyable experience to listen to these great works while following Bruckner's own autograph scores.
As a massive Bruckner fan, I cannot thank you enough for this series! Would it be possible also to post Rattle/BPO recording of the completed last movement? Obviously understandable if you'd prefer not to.
I wouldn't know how to get my hands on that re-constructed score. On IMSLP are the 4 pages of the piano sketches, that's all. If anybody has the score, let me know, I will post it.
The longing, and introspective mourning is so moving! It wrens at your heart. I imagine Christ ascending to the cross. And all that swirls around Him, and within. The greatest of all struggles. Ending in triumph and peace in the end.
Earlier today, I played the climax of the Adagio at a Stations of the Cross play/service with musical interludes, right after the Station where Jesus dies. The entire symphony, especially the Adagio, is indeed deeply religious.
E nem mesmo para ouví-la. :¸-( Não teve nem a chance de ouvir o que ele já tinha escrito, já que a estréia foi póstuma. Vale a pena ouvir os trechos que ele deixou do quarto movimento. Vários musicólogos fizeram uma compleção depois, mas nenhuma chega ao nível do compositor. Se ele a tivesse completado, seria certamente algo de fora desse universo…
@@MisesThe A única "vantagem" é que várias pessoas fizeram a finalização própria e, hoje, podemos ouvir várias versões distintas dessa finalização, todas seguindo o pouco material que Bruckner deixou como base.
Hello ! My comments will be almost the same as Peter here before. Thank you so much for this whole series of the symphonies ! Those manuscripts are really interesting ! And the versions you have chosen is the ones I have myself so I feel really comfortable. Thank you so much ! :)
Thank you for the Bruckner's Symphonies Series! Anyway, I never understood why Bruckner wrote those two horns' notes at 22:30 if it's absolutely impossible to made them audible in any performance and recording. It looks just a mistake in the copy...
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tw2LNhwnquk.htmlm02s It's powerful and incredibly jarring effect can be heard hear. The Master knew what he was doing.
in orchestration often you are not meant to hear absolutely everything. Sometimes things are there just to add weight, and they surely make a difference when taken out
I've very much enjoyed my Bruckner 'odyssey', having listened to all your symphony uploads from '0' to '9'. The experience hasn't turned me into an ardent Brucknerian - there are too many 'abortions' and 'miscarriages' (to quote Thomas Beecham!) - but I have heard some wonderfully stirring sounds and some amazingly adventurous/original harmonic thinking and orchestration. So many thanks to you for choosing these splendid performances and for providing the score (presumably a facsimile of Bruckner's manuscript?). It must have taken ages!
whether abortion or miscarriage, we get to see the deceased embryo. gimme an example of abortion or miscarriage, please, in this, which many like me would call the least of the nine symphonies, the work of a Master of the Symphony.
Because he enlarged the orchestra for his symphonies 7,8 and 9. It's incredible that right at the end of Bruckners life, he was writing his most ambitious music. Then the poor man couldn't finish his colossal 9 th symphony because of poor health and then death.
La mejor sinfonía de Bruckner, que fue estrenada el 11 de febrero de 1903. El primer movimiento está constituido en una forma de sonata cuyo final es el más terrorífico y apocalíptico que haya compuesto Bruckner. El Scherzo empieza con diálogo entre pizzicatos y tiene una atmósfera fría. El adagio se anticipa a los que serian los adagios de Mahler y cuya parte dramática se adelanta a los que sería la etapa final del posromanticismo.
It is complicated to say which composer is our favourite. But for me Bruckner is strong in this issue. The three B of Western Music , or of the Germanic Music, Bach, Beethoven, Brahms , in fact are four, in my opinion. Bruckner is the B number 4, he is in this group. But I am saying he is the 4° best in this group , or the last of the four ones. He is in the group of four great composer. And the Adagio of his Symphonie 9 is absolutely gorgeous, has no precedent in the History of Music, is another musical world.
Critics say he wrote the same symphony 9 times....of course not (though there is some truth in this). But he is limited in range (not of emotion but of genres) to be numbered with those 3!
@@kecenqian7169 It seems to me that Bruckner circled around the same idea for years, trying to grasp the transcendent. For me, the first movement of this ninth symphonie capture this well.
Une œuvre difficile à écouter à la première écoute mais si on prend la peine de l'écouter plusieurs fois, a quelques mois d'intervalle on finit par mieux la connaître et mieux l'aimer...
One has to be in the right mood to appreciate this macabre beauty of a work, a depiction so far as I can tell of a struggle between life and death, hope and fear, innocence and savagery, salvation and damnation, Jesus and Satan. Even tonality and atonality. Bruckner may have the reputation of a folksy conservative, but he smashes that reputation in this work. In a way it is prophetic of the century that Bruckner barely misses. But this prophecy is an apocalypse, and I need not name names. It is a naive Christianity facing Stuka bombers in Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, and Belgrade. Or facing the Cheka, Gestapo, or the KKK. Even musically this work is prophecy. It comes from the same year as Schoenberg's Transfigured Night, and it is no less up-to-date. Yes, Bruckner is as tonal as a late-19th-century composer can be... until this work.
Harry Andruschak I'm pretty sure he didn't. The 9th being unfinished, I suspect not. I seem to recall reading someone say that it was. Can't remember if that was supposedly authoritative or opinion. I doubt it. Either way, what a remarkable Symphonist!!! One can only imagine a 9th Finale topping the 8th's.
