'Anything to say to her?' Post Office investigator Stephen Bradshaw challenged over Horizon scandal 

A friend of my MIL’s was briefly a junior investigator and she was “only following orders” too - the difference is that when she became aware those orders were wrong and she had been involved in persecuting innocent people, she couldn’t cope with the shame. Even though she only did her job and was utterly unaware of the wider picture, she tried to turn herself into the police. She’s a shell of her former self and will never get over it. The difference between her and this man is mindblowing.

They (Post Office) have a lot to answer for. I cried as I watched the programme.@@kitm141

Integity is not a word that any Post Office investigator knows.

"Just following orders", where have I heard that before....oh wait, Germany Nuremburg Trial. UK politicians an corporate CEOs ....all just following orders! there you go, problems solved

Damned right.

He's not only a nasty POW but clearly not very bright either- how on earth did he get a job doing something that required him to evaluate evidence and understand the post office's systems?

A jobsworth. And a really nasty one at that. Probably a debt collector in his previous life. 🤮

Total scumbag

NASTY PIECE OF WORK............... seems to sum him up perfectly. I'd NOT like to meet up with him in any way shape or form.

​@@hoperp1951i wouldnt mind

Agreed. Nasty Man. We can all see it.

That would be real justice. Thug in a suit.

He is a vile coward

Hope he gets his porridge

Fact

I disagree, he does not appear to have the wit to lie convincingly.

Quite. He can barely speak English.

Ha also doesn't seem to know that he has committed several offences by making false witness statements because he was "told too", by lawyers. He knows nothing about Horizon, so how can he investigate anything? He cannot!

Scouse is so orrible 😂

Being deliberately evasive doesn't even come close enough to describe so many of his answers.

Which justice? Like in the USA there is Fake Justice for the ruling elite and a much lower level of justice for the average citizen.

Don't hold your breath.

Careful there, judge. You may be guilty of what you're charging.

What law did he broke? Bad business behaviour is not the same as breaking the law.

It depends. Was he aware of the problems with Horizon, and if not is it reasonable to expect that he should have been? How far were his conclusions and the outcome of the cases he investigated left to him to decide, and how much were they the responsibility of Post Office management? I'm not saying he is or isn't guilty, just saying let's not try to make up for one miscarriage of justice by having another one.

What the hell was he doing in the interview. It’s unrealistic to think he had no involvement or input.

He's a scouser.....they are 'always the victim'

@@alantarr3115 Weird bit of bigotry to drop in there..

@@alantarr3115 Well, you can take the Scouser out of Liverpool but you can never take Liverpool out of the Scouser.

He must be a sociopath. Should probably work as a bailiff.

@@robbie_That’s his next career move . . .

lock him up for a lot longer

What an excellent job he must have. Apparently you dont actually do anything whatsoever, dont speak to anyone, never discuss work either. The office must be silent.

Too many of this in our country sadly

Not me, not my case guv. It was the lawyers

I completely agree with you but I'd swap accountability for culpability as he stated that he held PACE (Police and criminal evidence) interviews yet he wasn't a policeman. I wonder how he sleeps at night.

Lock him up

@@kronk420 ahh is this where the PO have their special powers to investigate and prosecute? Not sure a police officer necessarily needs to conduct an interview. Sure I heard somewhere that it's one of these efficiency things to keep more police free for street work/powers of arrest - if they're in interview rooms they're not available to arrest/patrol the streets

What a odious person he is

just conclusion!

Comes across as a psychopath

No, award him a CBE. He clearly deserves one!

you are spot on hard to watch this worm sorry

no an OSCAR@@kurtgodel5236

Several times.

Maybe. Street justice is probably a better one . He will be protected in prison

And he exercised that bullying on the post masters/mistresses.

This is what he’s like on a panel in public. Imagine what he was like in private

He’s like a Roald Dahl villain

Imagine how he treated the innocent postmasters.... he probably bullied them with his vile tone of voice and nasty demeanor

I think odious is the word

Always, its their natural habitat

They are attractive as complicit hirelings who will bend to the will of whoever in charge is cracking the whip. People with obvious compassion and an open mind won't get past the first interview.

He was employed because he IS a thug.... You want a result then employ someone who will get it... The facts mean nothing when you badger and bully over and over.. That is how confessions have been gotten for decades...

@@YAMR1M Good point.

What do you mean"was" he is still employed as an investigator.

@@johnhiggins6984 He claims that he has NOT been involved with any direct investigation for a number of years. According to his interview at the official inquiry.

​Makes you wonder what his role is now...

How so?

Even without knowing the person, it's patently clear he's lying. Either that, or they may as well have slapped the job title of 'Investigator' on the bloody tea boy.

He was certainly squirming in his seat, he didn't like it when the shoe was on the other foot.

​@@cmgill2gill135if you have intellegence and integrity you would not have had to ask that question

I am amazed at how long he managed to keep it up, it was only a matter of time before he would have switched to the ubiquitous " No comment" response. To think these people were allowed to terrorise innocent hardworking people !!! I trust this enquiry will be executed diligently and justice to be applied so that he and those responsible in this awful miscarriage of justice be made accountable for their actions. I can't imagine the unrelenting misery those people must have gone through being interviewed by someone like that given his performance being cross-examined at this hearing. No conscience whatsoever. " Karma" eh?🤞

Brilliantly said.

@@markwatts4750 Thank you! The series is finally airing here in the US on PBS and I will watch it again.

The worse that happened in the entire situation is the cover up that perpetuated the loss of lives, livelihoods and reputations. There needs to be prosecutions of those high ranking officials involved and huge compensation for the victims.. this whole situation is absolutely bloody disgraceful.

Look up our fabled satirical magazine Private Eye, it has a separate file on this scandal. They have been covering this since Computing Weekly broke the scandal. While you are there have a look for the contaminated blood scandal. That is still ongoing.

The Judges should be held to account as well .... they destroyed a 1000 lives as well. Beautifully written above.

His is exactly the face I imagined Arendt wrote about.

Stalin would have been proud.

He just missing the nazi uniform

They said that at Nuremberg.

That's what Nazis said at Nuremberg....

The last time he was told he was wrong was when he was a postie in 1978....He seems the type who wouldn't take any professional critical advice or personal criticism whatsoever. He's right, everyone else is wrong....& guilty.

I shudder to think about it.

He is such a vile creep. Disgusting

If you've had a long career in institutions - manufacturing, medical, social or governmental - you've met this guy or gal - both are deadly.

You can tell from his voice that he couldn't care less.

I think he will care quite soon about what's going to be happening to him, the political world has turned on these shits now, they will all be thrown under the bus

Yes, his whole attitude is giving off big how-dare-you-question-me energy.

bet he doesn't go down to his local for pint anymore or take his whippet out for a walk

Nice one

So did Ernst Kaltenbrunner at Nürnberg in 1945

Pity d dog

@@mikejones-tf6zo Let them taste some of their own medicine. The living hell they have put these innocent victims through for many years is despicable.

Scum

He is just spewing out exactly what the Nazis who were on trial at various hearings after the second world war did. "I was only following orders. I was only there , I did nothing". The equivalent of "the big boys made me do it". A total and utter coward. A morally bankrupt excuse of a Human being. He will get his just desserts. Public humiliation is a powerful medicine, however, it does not stop there.He will be the vilified. The spat upon. The ostracised. The game is only just starting for him.

Hi ! (Fellow law student here) U-Tube search Stephen Bradshaw 11th of January, day 103 on the official post office inquiry channel here on RU-vid. Private prosecution/ investigation are something else aren’t they!? Hope this helps

He is a Dissgusting person, he should go to jail

Bingo my friend. Bingo. He makes me ashamed to be a Scouser!

👍

He was suitably dressed for what appears to be his funeral . . . how apt!

@@FissionChips Well he is hanging himself with his own rope

@@Steve14psyeah but will criminal charges come out of this for the likes of bradshaw?

@@Eleventhearlofmars If they don't he will be constantly looking over his shoulders when he takes his dog for a walk

Must have watched a lot of films about concentration camps

Most are ex police.

Most are ex retired police 🤔

Very well trained to be honest. They had a very clear plan and knew exactly what they were doing, and that was stitching up innocent people to cover for their failing IT system that cost the government billions and was being hailed by POL themselves as being completely and totally failure proof. It was in their (and the government's) best interests to tighten the screws on the postmasters, their staff and their families as much as possible. Nothing like egg on the face to make investigators, managers, conglomerates, ministers and the judiciary decide to tow a line. It's happened many times before, and horizon will not be the last to come to the surface.

Your absolutely right there mate hes been watching to many americian cop films .but this country is getting so corupt .youve only gotta look at some of the english cops .all pumped up etc acting like American policeman

What exactly is he being paid for? If you believe his testimony, he knows nothing, thinks nothing, decides nothing and does nothing.

Should be in jail

But he thinks he's smarter than everyone else. The arrogance of the corrupt!!!

More than my job's worth type of bloke. The whole Uk is filled with people like him!!

And those above him

Managed decline. Go read Chapter 9 ( Load Control) on the quietly passed Energy Act 2023 if you want to see how bad things are becoming.

Sadly , I don't anymore, just look at the messages that were suddenly lost on phones in the party gate inquiry

Me too.

@Ben I couldn't agree more

Ah,the Donald trump defence

700 people prosecuted, i.e. 10% of PMs. He must have been busy bee.

He is rather inarticulate, isn't he?

Accurayte assessment .

@@chrimbus71 With Starmer and Sunak and Boris and Truss, and Cameron.

As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could. Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.

THERE IS no evidence (as yet) for those charges. They are simply what you image what happened. I doubt it will be proved. There WAS bad corporate practice that perhaps people like Bradsahw are helping to cover up for his bosses, but that does NOT amount to criminal behaviour, however reprehensible it was.

I am not sure that fraud, black ail, extortion or misleading are appropriate charges, but certainly all those involved, from Vennels down, have been shown to be incompetent. (Misleading the Courts could be one I suppose). As an investigator, faced with a sudden rash of sub-postmasters ALL trying to steal money from the Post Office, I would not be looking at individuals per se. As cases multiplied, my efforts would be focused on searching for a common denominator, the thing that made all these previously good people turn to crime, evidence of a plan, communications between people.....or something which was present in all these cases, which was (drum roll): the new software!! Listening to the posties at interview may have confirmed the cause of this fiasco early on and avoided the unnecessary persecution of all the posties. I mean, did they really think a large number of posties, from all over the country, most of whom had never even met, suddenly had the idea of doing a bit of fraud - all at the same time?! Seriously?!

Paula Vennels must be shitting bricks right now - she can see the prison bars looming . . .

@@stephenphillips4984They all knew that they were lying to subpostmasters about them being the only one, and they all knew that the people they were prosecuting were all entirely innocent

@@stephenphillips4984 The Post Office knew that the software was faulty.

Someone should tell that to the professional standards unit of every police force in the UK. Another poison institution.

This Bradshaw man is so inadequate, to the point being barely Literate .

@@woodenseagull1899 he's like a really thick version of Stan Boardman.

He was investigating because His Bosses got him to do it !

@@chrislambert9435 By his own admission, he wasn't intelligent enough to understand what he was investigating and was therefore totally unqualified for the role. I suppose he could have got the tea & biscuits for the real investigators - people bright enough to ask intelligent questions!

A weasel indeed!

have you ever noticed coppers are like this claim to know every thing untill it goes agaist there own reality they already made up.then all of a suddon they know nothing .

blames everyone else

What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !

My thoughts exactly.

Me too

What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !

@@chrislambert9435 are you stupid

As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could. Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.

All of the above?

Worst thing about it is that he's still an investigator.

He was just there for the paycheck

He admits to being the Investigations Manager in charge of the whole Investigation, admits he was present at an interview but sits his subordinate, a female investigator, was totally responsible for the collection of evidence and submission of the case-papers to the Prosecutions Unit. So, either he failed to exercise proper supervision, including checking the record of the interview and assessment of the evidence, or he was determined to get prosecutions irrespective of the evidence. Whichever it was, he is clearly not telling the truth!

An "expert witness" who neither saw nor heard anything, knows nothing of computers or programming and doesn't follow the news...

Im embarrassed to be a scouser listening to his broken record of i had nothing to do with the enquiry

Hopefully he will be going through what he put the postmaster’s through and hopefully going to prison,he was supposed to be an investigator,why didn’t anyone get the transaction journal to scrutinize,because it would show the system was flawed.

He will get a generous pension, play bridge with his friends at the weekend and play with his train set, even his family will believe he has been unfairly wronged.. Justice like you suppose only happens in the movies.

This image you have of him is exactly what was on the job description.

Now all his neighbours and relatives know the real type of person he is . They can all make up their own minds how to treat him.

I reckon this guy will be shunned by his local community now his face is out there. Deserves everything he gets and I’m sure there’s a lot coming the way of the scoundrels in this scandal.

I feel sorry for his wife 😵‍💫

They ought to find a case which He did decide upon ! but as usual these MP enquiries lack rightly positioned questions

It's a little Manuelesque....."I know nothing, Mrs Faulty"

Organs removing more like.

​@@Trevor_Austinthey've already started on his brain.

As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could. Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.

totally agree and this bullies are in many big companies and corporations

I get the feeling his warped investigator mindset is that everyone are guilty. I've yet to hear where he's given the benefit of doubt to anyone...

Well said

Guaranteed this guys got a Very Shady past,you can tell by his demeanor and the way he dodges questioning, low life scumbag😂

These are the type of people that are promoted to these positions from jobs within the post office such as doorman to cleaners etc and this is the result and there are lots more like t him still in place. .

I bet senior Post Office management proudly referred to him as ''Our Scouse Rottweiler'' who always got the job done....irrespective of innocent folks being wrongly convicted ........

Bradshaw has worked for the Post Office since 1978 (45 years !). Probably the only employer he has ever worked for since leaving school. A time-server who gradually climbed the greasy pole proving the "Peter Principle" that he was promoted over the years until he reached his level of incompetence ! 😂😂

He might be7 thick but hes a sociopath who loved the powere his job gave him.i could imagine him being a right vindictive and odious petson

Give him a break, he not technically minded.

Something interrogators look out for.

What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !

@@chrislambert9435 It's pretty obvious that innocent people were being threatened to agree to things they did not do to suffer a lesser penalty. This is horrific abuse on a grand scale.

Let’s find out who told him to sign a false statement and jail them aswell.

Have we got enough jails !

@@markroberts1858 He didn´t sign if he have a Backbone

he knew that the statement he signed was false and he signed it.

​@@markroberts1858General Counsel of Post Office signed off the statements

What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !

@@chrislambert9435 Have you any appreciation of what it must have been like to have been interviewed by this man? Did you hear the transcripts of his PACE interviews being read out to him? I can quite understand how some of these victims entered guilty pleas despite their innocence.

​@@chrislambert9435You keep pasting this reply in various comments here. Are you a bot or a genuine bootlicker?

@@srp01983 When they plead Guilty, were they Lying ?

@@chrislambert9435 Have you heard of the word coercion? Have you watched the testimony of Stephen Bradshaw? Try looking it up on RU-vid, particularly the afternoon session of the 11th January. Have you actually got a brain or are you just trying to make out you are completely stupid?

What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !

The SS defence

Well done...it did seem to make for painful & frustrating viewing....

Surely there must be tapes of his interviews ??????