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As an ex police officer who understands exactly what a disclosure officer is and what responsibility they have, it shows this fella's level of incompetency and ignorance. He must have been delighted when some of the post masters were found guilty and sent to prison and their lives ruined. He's culpable of sending innocent people to prison....... hope there's Karma coming.
He’s a typical ‘Walter’ wannabe detective who thinks he’s Gene Hunt or Jack Reagan and has no professional integrity whatsoever. He couldn’t investigate the contents of a boiled egg. I want to know why the one question which would have stopped all this before it started: “Where has the money gone?” I;I’ve been investigating financial crime for over thirty years and I have never seen such an amateur, incompetent investigation like this in all that time. IF he undertook training, I would wager it was either useless or he didn’t bother turning up. This was a schoolboy error issue - find someone you think is guilty and look for the evidence, rather than look for evidence and identify what happened and any suspects.
This guy is basically the embodiment of corporate management - completely disassociated himself from the humanity of the subject and instead pointed blame at those under him.
No, he's IB. Investigation Branch. They're arseholes. And they have the power to bring prosecutions without the Police. That much power and no accountability causes miscarriages of justice.
Him and THOUSANDS of others are all guilty. if they didn't take part, they turned an intentional blind eye to over 10k cases all being told nobody else was having the same problems! It crossed ALL PO departments!
Calling Mr Bradshaw scum is an insult to scum. A good start with terminate his employment with the post office and then do whatever is just to send him to prison.
Thick as mince, no sense of empathy, clearly bullied his way through life and got a power trip out of his role as an investigator. Let’s hope he faces justice…..
Sorry if you have 100s of people accused of the same crime and pleading their innocence it should of been red flags. This man clearly enjoyed thinking he was solving crimes while not actually being sure of what hes accusing people of. This man should serve the time served by all the victims combined.
I watched this testimony from start to finish. This guy is totally committed to the post office and what ever they told him he did. He came across as a bully and total lack of empathy to the damage he contributed towards. He didn’t remember important things, yet towards the end he could quote dates etc as if it happened yesterday. He went into his job abusing his power and I can only imagine the pain and confusion he was solely responsible for. He is a foot soldier and everyone involved should be fined and do prison time.
My thought’s exactly. He comes across as arrogant, uncaring and totally obnoxious. I would think he loved his job and no matter if any of the people he interviewed had evidence he wouldn’t have believed them. I hope he gets the same treatment that he doled out the these PO victims.
He is not as clever as he thinks, and just clever enough to dig himself deeper into a whole world of trouble. A cocky, arrogant bully who will try to put the blame on anyone around him to save his own neck. Powers of arrest and investigation need to be removed from the Post Office. We can all see from this inquiry the quality of people they hire as security. This man comes over as little more than a low-class common thug.
Knight-Owl, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
@@chrislambert9435And that’s why an investigation must be done properly. Now, every conviction is unsafe and those few that are actually guilty will be exonerated. The blame for that lies with those complicit in the cover up. That most definately includes this gormless loser. Edit: It’s also why we shouldn’t offer sentence reductions for guilty pleas. People should be incentivised to plead guilty, otherwise everyone would chance their arm but it shouldn’t be such an incentive that innocents are tempted to take it.
@@chrislambert9435So why did he make deals with people for lesser charges, if they didn’t blame Horizon? Was it so he could keep collecting his bonus?
@@chrislambert9435 Or maybe he watched too many episodes of the Sweeney when he was a kid, and fancied himself a bit of a Regan type. Perhaps he was bullied as a child, and combined with the frustration of failing to make the REAL police force, he abused his power and was living out his little revenge fantasy. He clearly had zero interest in making any attempt at falsifying the "evidence" he was relying on (the FIRST test of any evidence is ''what would make this evidence false"), and saying "but it come [sic] from above", over and over is hardly mitigation for his failure to do so. He should have checked for himself if the information he received was reliable, but he was too lazy, or incompetent, or plain spiteful to do so. He ignored the mounting concerns and ploughed on regardless. He went to the accusers and said ''Is this evidence I'm relying on to prove your case true?"; they said "Yes", and he said "good enough for me". Worst investigation ever! He cites "regional background" as an excuse for his unprofessional language, trying to play the class card like all of us Northerners don't know any better and shouldn't be expected to. A truly disgusting human being. I wonder if he's thinking of all the innocent people he made squirm under interrogation now that it's HIS turn.
He may very well regret everything but People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Stephen Bradshaw is an evil, nasty bully and needs to be punished with the fulll force of the law for the harm and distress he has caused to so many people. There is no way he should still be working for the post office after sitting there lying through his teeth. How can someone just sign off witness statements written by someone else and think that is acceptable.
I hope this reprehensible person gets the same pressure from the Public,Friends and Relatives that the unfortunate victims of this sorry debacle suffered. You could easily mistake this skid mark of a person for a local loan shark or bailiff demanding his money.THATS the State of the Nation. What’s next legalise Death Squads ?
In the interview for his job he probably demonstrated that he was capable of just getting the more competent employees to do the work, and that was good enough for the hiring team.
On the contrary he is exactly the type of person the post office wanted. Another lamb for the slaughter. Keep going and the real criminals will be revealed.
@@mick947 I'm about an hour into the full (Day 103 AM) video on the Inquiry channel and the man asking him questions seems really irritated by the answers he is giving. They are going through the PACE interview transcript they did with one postmaster now and it is an awful way to interview someone.
Bradshaw is not merely a man with no empathy, he is also a man with no conscience of any description. His lack of investigatory skills have materially contributed to the whole debacle. Clear the innocent immediately and start prosecuting those guilty of creating this appalling miscarriage of justice from the top down.
Listening to this there seems to be some similarity of the attitude of Bradshaw and the attitude of the defendants of the Nürnberg Trails in 1945, a sort of 'if I had known' and 'I was only doing my job' attitude and a lack of understanding of the seriousness of the matter in question. He may end up hanging himself with his own rope.
He does not come across as having a high enough intelligence (his vocabulary & verbal responses) for an investigator that (I have limited knowledge of this seemingly despicable travesty of justice), seems to have had an inordinate amount of power from his non-judicial position.
An investigator who signed a witness statement without knowing and agreeing with the contents, is just horrifying. He doesn't have the integrity to investigate spilt milk.
The Sweeney were more professional, this guy reveled in the power he was given. He was the foot soldier for the rest of them. If they had told him to shit bricks he would have. Jail them all and remove their assets.
You often see this with mid level apparatchiks. They want to believe they're as important as they think they should be and become over-inflated at the power they have. Total coward when asked to account for it.
That he isn’t in prison is sickening. His gross incompetence over such a long period of time should be considered attempt to pervert the course of justice.
I would have been delighted if that barrister had concluded by saying, “You told me a pack of lies.” Just so he knows how it feels to be on the receiving end. Especially since he is clearly guilty of being a jobsworth assisting in a cover up and scapegoating, at best. Criminal conspiracy at worst. For all we know, that missing money (which has never been properly accounted for) might be sitting in his account?
It's a systemic issue but these individuals show how their ignorance actively harmed innocent people. Ultimately it's the job of the prosecution to evaluate any evidence. If the system causes bugs and errors, it shouldn't have been used to prosecute individuals.
yeah, well, the minute he does he's farked. He can see that much. willfully blind on any other subject... out of his depth..."only following orders"....
He doesn't actually seem to do much thinking at all ... which you would imagine would be one of the first requirements for a professional investigator. Presumably you need to be asking questions like "can I believe this ?" when presented with information in such a job. Yet he claims he believed everything he was told without question. Either utterly incompetent. Or a liar. Or both.
Prison time for everyone who was involved in the cover up. There needs to be deterrents for big corporations from covering up wrongdoing and innocent normal people suffer.
@alextotallytwattss3787 we should keep fighting and campaigning get involved and keep it relevant, they want us to forget. Contact our local MPs, to find out what they are doing. When will justice be done.
Not completely off-topic but you should check out the Exxon white paper( internal memo ) undersigned by the company chief at the time circa 1980s', Rex Tillerson. The memo was written after Exxon's R&D department stated that a business-as-usual policy would lead to a 1.5-degree rise in global temps by mid 21st century. The only way they could come to such a clearly defined conclusion would be to use other oil company info like that of Shell and BP. The results of the Exxon memo were purposefully censored upon the threat of serious punishment. The big capitalist corporations are monsters. They have entire floors dedicated to legal firms simply to protect their nefarious actions from exposure. And people have been groomed to be scared of these people because of their power. It's time the tables were turned.
Stephen Bradshaw: another name to add to the list of those who should serve time for perverting the course of justice or, at very least, forfeit a large chunk of his pension for doing a taxpayer-funded job he was clearly unqualified to do and didn’t do very well at. Despicable man, if only because he didn’t show an ounce of remorse. I hope he lives the rest of his life in total shame and stress, he deserves what he did to others.
He's not an investigator, he's an old school PO lacky. He didn't investigate the Horizon system or the truth of multiple corroborated statements given by subpostmasters about the duplicate transactions in it. If dozens of unconnected people tell the same story, that's a strong indication of truth. He brushed this all aside, to make the facts fit his superiors' conclusions of people's guilt and essentially steal money from hard working employees. Throughout all this, I've yet to hear an official explanation of how the Horizon system problems where actually investgated, what the root cause was and when and if they were all fixed.
Like you i fail to understand how forensic accountants, with access to the data, couldn't trawl laboriously through transactions to detect errors.....that's provided Fujitsu were prepared to open their digital transactions for scrutiny by forensic accountants of their Horizon system.
seems to me that the PO/Fujitsu were just hell-bent on denying any faults with Horizon. The money THEY stole was just icing... or a nice wedge in someone else's pocket at the end of the day. and if Fujitsu was frigging the system, you'd think that the money stolen from the SPMs might show up as an accounting error. hey I'm not an accountant but it's just a thought.
@@rpm412 I think the money stolen from the SPMs showed up as profits for the Post Office and not as an accounting error.These boosted profits at the PO, from stolen money,no doubt boosted annual bonuses for Post Office employees which makes the scandal all the more appalling.Those who stole from the SPMs enriched themselves from false charges and ruining many innocent peoples lives.
@@adrianlloyd6403 Absolutely. What gets me is that is level of accounting is simple. It is basically cashbook level. It is not accounting it is bookkeeping.
What the actual fuck? He wasn't an IT guy mate. The guy's job is an investigator. Don't you think most guilty people he'd investigated loudly proclaimed their innnocence?
@@shaunclubberlang2887 As you say he is an investigator, the clue is in the name mate. Investigate!!! If he's not got the intellect required to investigate, he shouldn't be in the job.
@@AlecSharratt101 And in the meantime, attention is away from the people who told call centre staff to tell anyone who rung up that they were the only people having problems. FFS RU-vid experts hey? The armchair quarterbacks.
@shaunclubberlang2887 So you are doing a criminal investigation. The person infront of you is claiming an I.T issue, so you don't check their I.T. Yep makes sense.
@@geeky_gunner OH FFS. Everybody on youtube is an armchair fucking quarterback. If your management is telling you that there are no issues with the IT system and you're not an IT expert, I'm pretty sure you're going to defer to them. It's easy to hate on the guy, talking in an abrupt scouse tone isn't it? Why not instead go after the management who told call centre people to lie on their behalf, who silenced and bought off people who wanted to bring in their own IT experts, who knew about the issues but were more worried about reputational damage. What about those guys? The ones speaking in boardroom in more pleasing to the ear home county tones that say all the right things. These people use fellows like them as their pit bulls. Whose fault is it if a pit bull bites someone? I say the owners. The person who whispered in his ear, sic 'em
The Post Office is unique in the ability to investigate internal crimes without reference to the police. (perhaps military or MI5, etc. have similar rights). The problem with all of this is that the PO management, for commercial and public confidence reasons, encouraged these "investigators" to harass and bully sub-postmasters. They lied when they said that no-one else had a problem with the system. They behaved disgracefully but they were accountable only to Post Office management who, themselves, were trying to cover up their own failures in this disastrous software. Honeyed apologies from senior managers are not going to cut it. They must go!
You didn't make any inquiries for many year's. Lock him up corporate manslaughter and defamation. Class action. But your the decision maker. Whom told you put it through. Somebody who.
I am a mental health nurse. In 2007 I worked in an inpatient unit. We had a former post master on our unit. He was there due to ideas related to SUICIDE! The man had been convicted of fraud and humiliated in our local paper. His son shunned him and his a level studies were impacted on. The man and his wife both had doubts about each other! I recall myself and a colleague having a conversation about reducing his obs level. The poor fella absolutely pleaded his innocence! I look back and find it appalling that we simply thought that he must be in denial we simply could not consider that a crown court conviction could be wrong!!!!!!! It’s fucking disgusting!!! I am thoroughly sickened
There will never be enough compensation paid that will make up for the misery that has occurred for the victims. They and their families will suffer for the rest of their lives even when they are exonerated. That poor man.
good that your wiser now , their are soooooo meny cases meny dont see light of day . gcorrupt gov corrupt lying nhs staff an nhs case like this but where people are harmed and managers and staff cover up abuse monthly . letby was also prob a nhs scape goat wont be the first nurse with exactly the same who years later gets it over turned
Were you and your colleagues also led to believe that this was an isolated case? I'm interested to know what would have been your reaction had you been made aware that hundreds of ordinary people (without any previous criminal record) had all been mysteriously convicted of the identical crime?
Micky-Mouse, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
I doubt those responsible will face any repercussions. They never do, the high ups walk away with their big payoffs and pensions, they always do. At best they'll throw a minion to the wolves. Look a the Lucy Letby case, one of the main people ignoring all the red flags raise by doctors and nurses took retirement and is living in France now on his massive pension. That is how it always works.
You are tricky, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Bradshaw made a false witness statement which resulted in people being wrongly convicted. He is fully and wholly responsible for that false witness statement regardless of whether he was following instructions of solicitors or not. He was either happy to make such a false statement and take responsibility for it - or not. He comes across fairly rat-like, a little rodent. He gave false witness statement which resulted in incorrect convictions and should face their consequences. ALSO, AS AN INVESTIGATING OFFICER, HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING UP TO HIS LINE MANAGERS, IF HE BECAME AWARE - ANY REPORTS OF ANY POSSIBLE COMPUTER BUG. Simply only accepting the possibility of a computer bug if it came from his line manager evidences the corruption. His objective was not to investigate but to secure a conviction, regardless of whether or not the SPMs were innocent. The rat.
Absolutely, I don’t think he done himself any favours the way he gave evidence, under oath, & I don’t think the UK public will have any sympathy for him.
Ant-eater, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Tranny, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
You only need to look at Bradshaw to know that he is a lying thug. He says he knew nothing of the Horizon system but that is just not true. For the pain and anguish that this person has caused to so many people over such along time, he should be serving a very long prison sentence.
I work in IT. This is a man who is squirming - the way he answers his questions - he know something. I've seen this enough times - this is a manager who knows he's screwed up and is trying to cover it up. It's so obvious what's happened - he even says a few minutes later regarding the not writing his own statement. "So you ... you didn't read it, you just signed it." Which is what he did with the horizon report. He ticked some boxes, got a bonus and walked off, not doing his job.
@@allan4922He’s been described as a liar by one of the sub post mistresses he interviewed and convicted. I don’t think he did very much today to demonstrate that she is wrong. And I can imagine that being subjected to him conducting a PACE interview would be a very intimidating experience. I hope he had the same feeling today, being cross-examined by someone far more intelligent who basically tore him a new one. It was very satisfying to watch how his own statements were presented to him in front of the whole world.
Bradshaw expects a level of commitment (get up earlier) and integrity from postmasters that is singularly lacking in himself. Despite holding a senior position of responsibility, it is never his responsibility.
Fraud often occurs in businesses daily but it's remarkably odd that over 700 trusted employees who many didn't know or associate with each other were supposedly committing financial fraud every day and at roughly the same time on a computer system that was being monitored by head office. Wouldn't that highly irregular fact have raised a red flag in itself as to whether fraud was actually happening or there was a deeper problem that required further investigation?
Manie, how do you know its unusual, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
What an absolute crass individual. Now we are getting an insight into the kind of people these postmasters were dealing with. It explains a lot. These postmasters hit a brick wall when they asked for help. This person needs to be removed from duties at the post office. He is clearly not qualified to be in that position.
Wos-Up, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Agreed. This is a witch hunt and the lowest levels will be blamed, and this will be accepted by this investigation. This guy is obnoxious, a typical, unskilled, bully, but, I can't see what he could have done, if he had no evidence of a very high level control of investigation details.
This is a staggeringly reckless approach to _any_ investigation. "I wasn't told there might be flaws" doesn't cut it. Why didn't he _try to find out_ if there were any flaws? Seems like he was perfectly happy seeing himself as "The hammer" for the post office.
Guilty until proven innocent seems to be his way of conducting his investigations believing the horizon system could not make mistakes. .. unbelievable.
And you don't think fraud investigators have to be tough on people? Come off it. For years he would have encountered so many guilty people proclaiming their innocence, that it's hard to tell the difference from his perspective. Go after the real targets. The people in senior management who knew there were problems and covered them up.
he must be a x copper his level of investigation are the same treated as guilty before investigating .his mind already made up his goal is not to find the truth but to twist it to his own agendor .i wonder how much evidence this mans ignored in the past .
Darry, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
I suspect software analysis was beyond his remit and his ability. This is a classic Corporate dullard who wouldn't last a day outside a corporate structure where nobody is responsible but everyone is on a juicy brucie bonus.
I loved the fact that he said he was not technically minded, yet was investigating Horizon, a computer system! Could it be that the upper echelon chose someone who was not tech savvy on purpose? Someone who was an old school yes man? Noooo. Really? He sounds like a real bully. ‘Oh if you can’t get up, then don’t do the job’. Did she say she couldn’t get up? I didn’t see that in that transcript. Maybe she had a child getting them ready for school? Maybe she had a dodgy car that sometimes didn’t start? But he didn’t ask her that. He just bullied her.
If you sign a witness statement saying that it is your statement and is true and accurate but it has actually been prepared by someone else, you are committing perjury. The chairman gave him every opportunity to recognise that but he was so arrogant he just kept digging. He presented false statements to a court so he should be held to account for the suffering he caused
@@KebabMusicLtd "I was only following orders. My superiors told me the system worked perfectly. I was only doing the same as what everyone else was doing. I just signed what the lawyers told me to sign." This dim-witted, morally-bankrupt, sorry excuse for a man should never have been given any role in a process which could mess up someone's life.
@@allanmason3201I have actually been an investigator (not with the post office) and I'm staggered by how unintelligent this man seems. An extremely basic principle you learn is to confirm *everything*. You also know that if you sign something for court it's on *you*. If this guy was a senior.... wow!
Marty-Farty, people were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
An investigator that didn't think of investigating himself the technical side of a missing money case. He's not an investagor but an enforcer to protect the corporation.
The guy felt strongly secure in his official role, he assumed he was untouchable and was advised by the post to get admissions and prosecute, he walked away with a smile on his face and a large performance bonus in his pocket for doing a good job. He should be dismissed for gross misconduct.
He can say he was just doing his job . But we all know these type of people love the power they are given and use the power at every opportunity. With no empathy for the people he was grilling in his mind they were guilty. Just remember the prison guards in concentration camps were just doing there jobs.
Playing a very minor part in a bank IT transformation project, it was my due responsibility (as we all were), to question EVERYTHING. Indeed, we were all actively encouraged to do so. This guy is just a blatant liar and thug.
Suspend him. He admitted to providing a statement he did not write. Sack him. Withhold his pension. Prrsecutw him. Retrieve any bonus paid to him over that time, after freezing his assets and bank account, then send him to jail.
Never ever sign off something if you don’t agree with the words. If you do, you have to face the consequences if it goes wrong. If someone else writes something and you sign it, you take on accountability for it. No ifs, no buts.
100% correct. It was because of the actions of people like this cretin that added credence to the weight of the case brought by the Post Office against the Sub-Post Masters. He has clearly been versed in what to say by his masters. A basic courtesy that he himself didn't afford to those he once interrogated. "I was just following orders, Guv."
I've met this man before. His name is Oscar Schlemmer and he has a soul that seems to pop up generation after generation in different forms. He hasn't committed any crimes per se; his was a relatively trivial and inconsequential position in the system. He didn't and still doesn't believe he did much wrong; in fact still thinks those he interrogated deserved punishment, though he can't really explain why. Still, what he disclosed was enough, in the fullness of time, to send him to prison.
Truly incredible how someone can be in such a position.Lying through his teeth to cover his arse.This individuals need jailed.People have lost their livelihoods and some have taken their lives.Its a total disgrace.
Yes and No. Perjury takes place when you have lawfully sworn as a witness or interpreter in a judicial proceeding and you make a knowing false statement. Technically this could be a false statement of truth which is different under UK law. So, if he said this in court it would have been perjury but since he didn’t its not. I’m confident he’s now been advised properly by a legal team which is why he’s admitting that he didn’t write the statement, its not his words and now (on reflection) he doesn’t agree with the statement - he was poorly instructed by those in higher positions. Based on what I’ve seen, I’m of the view that this investigator (Stephen) and sadly quite a few others did think much beyond what the Post Office wanted/asked of them. They appeared to take answers at face value and not “investigate”. It’s sad.
QUESTION . This guy in his own words said " I am not qualified to spot computer bugs " how the hell was this clown incharge of prosecutions involving computer malfunctions.?
As a lifetimer in the Post Office was he not astonished by the almost sudden arrival of multiple fraudsters where there had not been such a prominent problem in his previous years of service. No he’s a jobsworth who abused his position and he should now be prosecuted if possible.
Gerry the Cat, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
@@roviwoteap2375 People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
For someone who is an investigator he seems unbelievably and incredibly unintelligent, a horrendous communicator, incredibly cocky and absolutely useless! Nothing was him and he was responsible for nothing! Therefore there is no remorse!!
I'm not British so it's none of my business but I think I know the word that best describes him and I will write it jumbled so as to give him a few days of guesswork to achieve the proper order: "TICSSSIARCNI".
What an absolute scumbag of a human. How can he still be in a job. He has never taken any responsibility for the pain he has caused to so many sub post workers. He is the criminal here and should be charged as such.
"Nobody said there was a problem, apart from all the people around me saying there's a problem, and the people we were prosecuting saying there was a problem, because nobody higher up the food-chain told me there was a problem..." Or something like that.
Of all I have listened to in this inquiry with so many who were convinced in theirselves that all 600 cases were guilty of putting their hands in the till. Yet!? Not a single one of them? Not a single shred of evidence on their behalf as to where all this money went.
