I deleted this in 2020 because after the whole minaxjimin thing people came here to hash it out. There were some real scary comments coming for Jimin, it's ok to have an opinion or not like her but trying to rally up people to get Jimin blocked on all Social Media and harass her accounts was just not ok. Anyways, things have died down and the AOA girls stories are some of the most interesting (imo) on what long term abuse from your company can do to an idol's mental state.
Have you ever done Jimin from BTS before I’m pretty curious about that one. I watched the Yoongi one you did and I liked the way did it that’s why I’m asking.
@@ceradii376 Yep, Jimin's video was one of my first videos ever so there are a lot if typos I will try to fix/ redo clips. I might try to have his done by the end fi the month.
@@amfgvideos2517 thank for replying, good to know also take your time I don’t wanna seem like I’m demanding or anything 😅. Anyways have wonderful rest of your day.
Thank you so much for putting this back up! And I understand why you took it down. I hope you re-upload your old videos and possibly do more male idols. Thank you for all your hard work and happy 2022!
To be honest it has become clear that kpop Stans do not care for the truth or making kpop a better place. Just drama, like watching a play, the annoying fact is that they try to pretend they actually care. They say mental herald is important only if it’s about their fave, then they go being their hateful self once it’s convenient.
@@mariakiwi1428 I swear your comment is on point they all are these wannabe "woke" people.None of them is so smart that they actually do researches and none of them even cared about aoa before the scandal appeared.They don’t give a shit about mental health they just need to bully someone to feel excited and like "heroes" how stupid can they be 😭.No Jessica you ain’t doing anything right by writing nasty ass comments to a person who already has quitted their job and suffer because of the lies someone has spread about them.
Today is her birthday, I saw a recent picture of her and she looks like a different person, her face has no definition and though she was laying down in the photo it's clear that she's even skinnier than ever. So many people forgot about Jimins struggle when Mina came out with her allegations. It was heartbreaking to see so many hurtful comments about her body. She released a song for her ‘dearest’ today, the lyrics are so sad.... I hope she can have a happy life.
“They’ll like me if I’m thinner/prettier” is a very common reaction for fems to have in the face of large amounts of hate or criticism. When I first moved overseas I developed an unhealthy obsession with my weight and looks genuinely thinking I could avoid xenophobia this way.
this is such an interesting and nuanced topic that needs to be discussed more!! I've had similar experiences where I use beauty, weight, fashion as a coping mechanism for the way I thought people were perceiving me due to my different culture and ethnicity.
I could relate to your comment so well. Often times women’s value is placed upon their looks, so in order to elevate your status and fit in, we have to meet the beauty standards to get to the top or at least somewhere in the middle where we can avoid hatred.
Back before their Queendom appearance, I posted a comment saying I was worried about Jimin's weight loss, and asked if she had been ill. People attacked me for daring to mention her weight loss. People suffering from depression often reach out, hoping for support and understanding. All they get from so-called " fans" is hate. It is disgusting.
i feel like people attacked jimin so harshly not because they cared about mina, but because it was fun to have a scapegoat to laugh and point fingers at. they body shamed her, hated on her talents and looks, all in the name of mina who they did not know or care about.
she's the strongest person I know, just for the fact that she's still here after all the torment she had to endure the last two years.. I'm praying for her and hope she will find peace and happiness.
"Isn't 50 kilograms too much?" ... I understand it's a different culture and they have a different body structure, height and metabolism, BUT this is clearly unhealthy. I feel really bad for how they were treated.
yeah. also crazy because the woman saying it almost certainly isn't 50kg. the amount of people who treat celebrities as dolls (saying they should lose weight, get plastic surgery, completely change their appearance, etc.) is crazy. i understand that they're supposed to look better but they're still people at the end of the day.
3:56 Seolhyun being considered overweight at 50kg with her tall physique is abusive. I'm slim and a little taller than her. I have never been that thin. Not even as a teenager.
For real, I’m 168cm and have always looked very skinny but I’ve been around 50kg since high school… And I even get told by doctors that that’s nearly underweight. Idol culture is trying to kill these girls.
@@RandydatBish i was a dancer until like 2019 so my weight never fluctuated badly but i also grew up with kpop idols being my inspiration and even the most curviest kpop idols seemed to be 48 kilos so i wanted to be like that but when i hit that weight i realised it didnt suit me and my body wasnt made to be that skinny
Throughout this whole Mina and Jimin thing I am so glad that I did not choose any side from the beginning. Sure, I was shocked about how terrible the scandal seemed but I chose not to choose any side until the truth came out. I learnt that from witnessing in the Woojin scandal. To be neutral until the truth comes out and not to blindly follow the crowd. I hope that more kpop stans are aware that it is okay to stay neutral in such situations and that sometimes... we should not just jump to conclusions no matter how terrible the situation may sound.
And what's the truth? Jimin is innocent and mina isn't? I don't think we know all the truth and we never will because we wasn't there and there it's not proof of anything. For me the two of them are mentally damaged and the two of them has done shitty things.
@@Vane3345 yes, but at first, when someone talks about abuse, bullying, harassment... i dont think you should ignore what they are saying. you can support them or be quiet, but dont comment something like "i wont believe it until the proofs or other version come out" because if the abuse is real, you're hurting the victim a lot but if you support them without hating on the other person, you wont be shameful or blaming someone innocent
I DEFENDED HER WITH ALL MY LIFE BACK THEN, I EVEN GOT DEATH THREATS BECAUSE "I WAS SUPPORTING A BULLY" THEY SAY. I WAS THERE SUPPORTING HER IN HER STRUGGLES, SHE DIDN'T NEED TO LEAVE THE GROUP IF ONLY PEOPLE BELIEVED IN HER MORE, AOA WOULD STILL BE THERE IF THESE NETIZENS DIDN'T BUTT IN AND SPREAD RUMOURS. I HATE Y'ALL. SHE'S A GOOD RAPPER AND I WISH HER CAREER PATH THE BEST
From a neighbor's testimonial, Jimin seems to be living a life of what some would call a "hermit". She's rarely seen outside her home basically, like I understand the situation but the malicious comments go way to far in situations such as this. Sometimes there's little to no evidence, but of course certain fans blow the matter out of proportion going as far as to demand whichever idol must leave their group. The ending of the video speaks loudly, because at the end of the day people who spit nasty things on the internet are bullies hiding behind a screen. I can't see what joy being that way would bring you. 🙄 Either way I worry about her and her mental health.
mina ruined jimin and aoa's reputation. i hope jimin recovers and lives a happy and healthy life. i also hope that she reveals her side of the story when she's ready and comes back to the industry, she was so talented and it's such a shame that someone can ruin ones career over lies and manipulation.
I still don’t think that’s she’s completely innocent. Someone that is innocent would fight to make sure that her side is heard and instead she just left. Her only response was the word “fiction”. That + leaving the industry made her look bad, but I feel like she would at least have a better response if she was 100% innocent. I feel like both of them needed a lot of help and FNC never gave it to them Edit: Im just saying, I am not on either side and I don’t think either of them were the innocent. Period. I just felt like Jimin could’ve said something even after she left. The April members defended themselves. She could’ve said something or at least a statement on her part. Seolhyun and the rest of AOA could’ve defended her as well.
@@neb.9489 jimin obviously did not expect the whole situation to escalate the way it did, therefore she just wrote, 'fiction'. mina is a known snake and manipulator, she was even exposed by dispatch. jimin was probably advised to stay quiet by fnc, especially bcos mina was suicidal and posted pics of her slit wrists on insta. if jimin were to respond and defend herself, mina could have hurt or possibly committed suicide, therefore i think thats the reason jimin kept silent, as she did not want to further damage mina's mental health.
@@neb.9489 Everybody is not the same. How the hell do you expect anyone to know how to act or what exactly to do to not add more fuel to the fire, when the whole internet within a nation along with many on the outside, are trying to destroy you and your entire existance over several lies they chose to believe without evidence??
@@neb.9489 exactly. When videos of her being rude to Mina surfaced.. I just can’t forget those. Then again, Mina seems like an ‘unreliable narrator’ at this point because she seems mentally unstable. I just don’t know who to believe, but this situation didnt just apprear out of thin air.
Thank you so much for putting this back up! Whoever is right or wrong in the AOA situation doesn’t matter when it comes to health & spreading awareness. I understand why you previously deleted it but I’m happy it’s back up & I hope Jimin is healthy (and all AOA members)
I think (idk if she did) she had buccal fat removal which resulted to her face looking hollow. Many surgeon's are raising some reminders regarding this procedures as it really makes you look mature/older and long-term appearance should be considered before proceeding. That is because once you got old the buccal fat gives volume in the cheeks but once it's taken out at the very young age, it will look more hollow as the time pass by.
I still can't wrap my head around how normal it is for idols etc to talk about their exteremly strict diets on radio/tv... like saying oh I needed to lose 5kg so I ate 1 meal a day?? While working out and having an intense schedule.... it normalizes it so much.. it's terrifying... if a western celeb would say something like that they'll be either called out for promoting eating disorders or everyone would get so worried....
It seems like young koreans are obsessed with losing weight and dieting. The entire idol industry would need a revamp in order to get rid of this problem. That won’t happen anytime soon.
@@ItsMeNijntje despite living in australia, im an asian and with my friends n family it feels so normal to eat so little, its so normalized it never occurred to me that it was a problem
it's seem very normalized in Korea. it's sad and scary honestly. the way that society in korea talks about their insecurities so they believe they can solve them by starving and other encourage it..? literally so awful.
Thank you for putting this back up! And although I didn't say anything mean I do remember editing a comment on the old version about the drama and I really regret that. I was a part of the problem and I really really hope she has people caring for her right now
Honestly you sound a lot more mature than most people who got involved. Everyone makes mistakes and the kpop community pretty much forced it to be everyone's business at the time.
@@amfgvideos2517 thank you for your kind words, it makes me feel better. Even though I didn't insult her I still feel dirty for even bringing the drama up in the comment, but like u said it really felt like u HAD to say something about it. Thank u again for the kind words 💕
@@rollingdeep8058 There's a lot of RU-vid videos that really go into depth about it, I think ploopy678 made a great video explaining how the drama has changed. I'm not very comfortable explaining it myself :)
I really just hope every AOA member gets the help that they need and are able to live their lives normally, they were set up to fail by a shitty company and a fucked up industry, they deserve better.
@@LegLegacy Basically (this is really summed up so if you want more, just look up AOA bullying scandal) Mina accused some members of AOA for bullying her during their group's era. Jimin was the main person she accused. Since this news came out alot of bad press was on Jimin and everyone believed Mina, recently it came out that Mina hadn't shared the full story and lied about certain details and due to all of this AOA reputation and Jimin's really went down. Which is sad because they were a well loved group. The scandals came out near the end of the main group's era.
I've never believed that Jimin actually bullied mina there is no actual proof that she did bully her. Those edited videos of them don't prove anything either. I think Mina needs help and that people need to apologize to Jimin for the harm they caused her what they said and did to her is hypocritical because people are hating on Jimin for hurting Mina when they're doing the same exact thing to Jimin.
Even if Mina’s allegations HAD been true, a lot of people don’t understand that bullying tends to happen in environments where people are pushed past their limits mentally and don’t have a proper outlet for their stress (which is why it’s so common in schools). If an idol is caught bullying, they should 100% be held accountable for their own actions, but the agency should also be held accountable for forcing such an environment. Regardless of what may have actually happened behind the scenes, all of these members deserve to be healthy and happy.
After looking the case it seemed like jimin was a strict leader. Which made sense, kpop Is so perfectionist based and if the group messes up it goes on the leader not the member. So jimin had to be tough on mina but mina lacked the work ethic. I mean mina admitted she skipped dance practices and lessons, no wonder jimin tough on her
Mina allegations were based on fact, however, Jimin wasn't actually bullying her. Just telling Mina to work harder. Mina twisted the situation and made everyone feel sorry for her.
@@simpforkeqing3997 well mina allegations werent rlly true. for example she claimed she was so scared of jimin she cudnt visit her dad. when in reality fnc gave her 4 weeks off so she had enough time to see him. her story doesnt add up
After thinking about the Mina/Jimin situation I feel like still not enough people are putting the blame on FNC. I cannot IMAGINE the daily stress and pressure Jimin was under while in AOA. Especially being the eldest and leader. Jimin was probably expected to be responsible for all of the things her members did. If one of them did something “wrong” I’d imagine Jimin would get the brunt of the blame. It’s no wonder she was such a strict leader. She was probably forced to be. It’s because of FNC that all of this happened. They created a toxic and stressful work environment from the start. They set everything in motion for something like this to happen, then they threw Jimin under the bus and failed to protect her. EVERYONE in AOA was abused and it’s a shame that we tend to blame either entirely Jimin or entirely Mina and not FNC.
this is such a good point, i didnt even think of FNC's part in this whole fiasco. i don't know why FNC expects their idols to keep it together for years upon years despite them cultivating the most miserable work environment known to man. their work strategies/regulations are unsustainable as fuck, literally a recipe for disaster
I totally agree with your last point! Even though I quit K-pop I still get recommendations about the drama happening there. It reminds me of how smart that decision was. K-pop stans needs to clam down a notch. Not only are they ruining the K-pop image for many people, but also make it uncomfortable for the idols they support.
And this is why kpop idols end up offing themselves. She tried any little thing to make herself the way the public wanted her to be. And then she does it, and gets even more hate. I feel bad for Jimin. I shouldn't have chosen minas side. Sorry Jimin. Sorry.
AOA has such a sad story, when all the Mina's controversial blow up I was really chocked and couldn't believe a person who sufferred so much hate would do that. In the end it looks like the public was the one who broke the girls and got them sick
Every idol picture is edited, even the ones from the news, they are all edited. It's most likely that the photos she uploaded, the ones with dark circles or looking boney are simply unedited or posed, taken from an angle that shows her actual thinness. Most idols look like walking skeletons but you don't get to notice because you see the pictures uploaded by the company, themselves, or filtered videos by music- award shows, when they all look fully covered in clothes, full face and makeup done. Also, Jimin has always been a fan of that grunge, messy aesthetic, she loves rockstars and Nana, I don't find her posts as clickbaity as you make it look but more like Jimin glamorizing her own destruction, even her tattoos clarify that.
Im not really into kpop anymore nor do I still have an eating disorder but still watch these vids out of morbid curiosity ahaha. I remember back when AOA debuted I was immediately captivated by how beautiful Jimin was. I still think she's so pretty I have a hard time thinking poorly about her at all. I'd already stopped listening to KPOP that much when she was accused to bullying, but honestly didn't really believe it. I just think they're all under psychological torture. I hope Mina and Jimin can both heal and move on. Nobody deserves to be hated by the public if they're not a war criminal.
Before people hating on jimin, their is no proof of bullying other than those shitty k RU-vidrs video and Mina's words. Their is proof that mina actually lied. Jimin deserve a huge apology from people who insulted her to all the years. Please watch everglow up video saying about this scandal.
Jimin has been through so much for the past two years. Mina really knew how to destroy not only her career, but also her LIFE! I hope both Jimin and Mina can seek professional help and be happy again.
i’m so happy this video is reuploaded. the way ppl were saying that jimin DESERVED to get bullied and and harassed for nearly a decade in the last video. those dumbass kpop youtubers trying to turn this situation into “tea”. it all just rubbed me the wrong way, even when i thought jimin was the bully. and now ppl are trying to claim “both sides” when they didn’t want to give jimin that leeway last year 💀
Definitely racist undertones. Sure, South Korea Doesn’t have a large population of black peoples like western countries BUT they’re basically saying black is ugly and unattractive
I'm seeing so many comments here claiming to have defended Jimin during the whole controversy. It's frustrating to see all these claims when I clearly remember not getting any backup when I defended her in pretty much every video on youtube lol (i wasn't busy then lol)
this entire scandal just goes to show that fans know next to NOTHING about these idols' actual personalities and throwing them under the bus based on someone else's 'experiences' (unless there's recorded evidence of an idol being terrible coughcoughjaecoughcough) is throwing stones from glass houses.
Honestly, She's probably a thousand times prettier than all of her hate commenters. Even if there are a few that *look* pretty -- their personalities are all trash.
As someone who is a victim of bullies I sided with Mina and wanted her to get justice but I never shit talked or went after Jimin cause that is what bullies do. I was watching from the sidelines. When Mina was found to be a liar it damaged not only my trust for her but damaged herself, her group, groupmates, family, and her fans. I was also a huge fan of Jimin too and when Mina first made the allegations it just broke me but I had to side with Mina due to me being a victim of bullying. Can't believe I am saying this but thank you dispatch for being your creepy self.
Thankyou so much for posting these types of videos, I’m struggling with my weight and have looked up to idols as my goal. I’m not glad that they struggle, I truly wish them the best. However, for me to understand that even the people I idolize struggle makes me feel better about me struggling so much.
even after the issues with jimin i still felt bad for jimin because you never know how a person truly is or what happened between them and shes probably very sad and trying to stay alive some people really dont realize how words could affect somebody
I love your Weight Story videos because you say soo much more than when they gained or lost or stayed the same. You tell their whole idol story. Awsome job!!!
Jimin update 💜❤️ She actually posted her insta story and even posted on her ig if jimin is a bad person why seolhyn support her till the date. Their is no proof of bullying other than Mina's words. Hope jimin is okay and I see her smiling on the video I am wishing she is happy and healthy after all the harassment and bullying she suffered she is a strong girl no matter others say I will always support her thanks everglow up for making about the video.
I just feel like in korean sociaty people will keep a nice face, while hiding a mean persona that blows up in those anonimous media foruns and blogs. How can people be so mean? I don't see such hateful words in western media and even in other asian medias D: Yes there are anti fans in any mediatic circle, but it's so intense in the k-industry.
Its not just korean its a whole asia trust me im half korean and lived in korea for most of live people always oh my god asian ppl are so nice blah blah but literally one of the most if not the most important is keeping up your public image bc in asian culture what other ppl think of you is more important that what you think of yourself and keeping public peace that why asian people are so nice to your face but will shit talk like very two face which is exactly more shown as you can see on the internet forum and media where you can stay anonymous (im not talking abt all asians btw dont generalize ppl and there are good ppl just like in every race)
I feel like although western comments can be like that, at least there’s never any kind of delusion to it existing. Meanwhile people legitimately think kpop is this wonderful beautiful polite little thing, as if it’s not exactly the same exploitative industry like in the west, except it’s hidden but it still attracts an audience that reacts similarly or even worse to stuff. It reminds me a lot of the way Hollywood was perceived in its golden age.
There are no angels and no demons, just people who make mistakes, and more importantly, cultures where certain types of abuse flourish. The hierarchical culture giving those with seniority/status and age more respect and power, and the industry culture of working beyond human limits both bred a situation that was harmful.
People comment on someone's body.. Criticise them if they do change themself.. Just spread hate towards that person.. Commenting on their body and face.. And when they decides to end their life.. These same people feel sorry for them and some even call them weak... Why don't this audience just keep their mouths shut.. Praise the music ànd talent.. Think twice before you comment on someone's body and their appearance.. Don't push the idols soo much that taking their own life seems easy to them than tolerating your hate.. People did same with shinee's jonghyun f(x) 's sulli ànd go hara.. Please be nice with your words..
Look i don’t know what happened all those years aoa was together … I’m sure there’s plenty of blame to go around… sure no one is guiltless .. but jimin was one of my favorite artists and if what they say about Mina’s behavior is true , jimin is due an apology …. Wish they could all work it out … miss AOA!!
When I was a kid, I loved aoa and I was a Jimin stan. This was around the time when they were popular and I legit had all their songs on my iPod. I ended up distancing myself from kpop a bit during high school to focus on my grades and got back into it in college and pretty much forgot about aoa and then I remembered their old songs and wanted to know what was going on. I remember seeing how much Jimin changed, I hardly recognized her and I was saddened that she felt the need to change herself to that extent. But more than anything, I hoped she was happy with those changes. Then, the Mina allegations came out after that and my gut instinct was to side with Mina and the way that Jimin acknowledged it had me believe Mina more. Then it just kept going and going and honestly, I wasn’t sure what to believe because I never thought of jimin as that bad of a leader. But we don’t know these people irl, you know? But I thought it could be misunderstandings. But I believed it anyway. And I’m sad about that because this is a very big gray area. It is two people misinterpreting each other and it got to this proportion. So I’m sorry, Jimin. I hope you’re doing well. It’s crazy how big this all got and no hate to her or Mina. They both just need to be able to move on with their lives. They’re both still young. I hope they can let this all go in the end
Her weight loss seems natural to me. She's grown in height since she was 14, so her weight "stretched" out more on her body. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a fan of IVE nor Iz*one.
No one is saying that bullying is okey or excusing her behavior. They are grown adults and have apologized etc, we dont need to drag it. At the end of the day they are humans and not just something u can watch. I hope they both have a peaceful life without ppl watching and commenting on their every step.
There's more proof against the bullying than there is for it. Contrary to what so many kpop stans spread Jimin never apologized for bullying Mina. Her Instagram still has the message up there she apologized for not being a good leader which backs up what Choa told her in the leaked transcript. “You need to apologize because you're the oldest and the leader.” Even though Jimin said she didn't remember what Mina was alleging she apologized for her the way things turned out. We also have words from Soelhyun and AOA staff that also backs up what Choa said about Mina. Their staff said they were scared of her and Choa said Mina has a tendency to be emotional. Also contrary to what Kpop stans spread Mina WAS already experiencing mental health problems which she hid from Jimin and the rest of AOA up until Jimins father passed away. Mina was SA and abused by her parents. Her sister even says Mina was wrong and need to apologize, she also says Mina’s mother has the same mental issues. I could go on and on about the inconsistencies in Mina’s story and her mental health but, the point is I don’t think it’s fair or right for people to label Jimin as a bully.
I went through her Instagram checked the comments and it made me cry bc of how much hate she’s getting there are vomiting emojis bad words plp telling her to eat…
if you think about it, more than half of all female Kpop idols are probably underweight. I regularly see numbers like 1.65 m and 46 kg together, which is most definitely underweight.
I have watched all your videos, they are a great motivation not only to stick with my diet but to remember not to take it too far! I am prone to the yo-yo effect and currently working on breaking a 4 year long yo-yo cycle… I have to remember to be patient and not discouraged by days of gaining a little since I am following a good program… courage to all of you who are also trying to lose weight! No matter how much we would want to… I doesn’t happen overnight. Also, are you working on a new upload? Really looking forward to it!
This was a good video. Im not a fan of Jimin, but she clearly didint feel well and all those thin pics was screaming for help and attention. Like Mina has been posting, I really hope she will get help and her mental state will improve. If possible, could you make more SNSD member videos, thank you. Have a nice day.
honestly the comments and opinions (this is coming from someone isn't a fan of AOA) fricking inraged me like the amount of selfishness (the commenters believing that their version of beauty is all that to the point of basically doing what they accused Jimin of doing: bullying/as if the every Korean knows who this famous Korean guy is, ITS A FRICKING GAME) from this knetizens is skyrocketing.
I don't know if you take requests or suggestions but IVE's Wonyoung's body has been discussed a lot recently similairly to how hitomi's body got discussed in 2020 so I think it would be good to see a video of your about Wonyoung since your videos are always good and high quality.
Hello, I want to thank you for your efforts and for the valuable information you give us, but I want to ask you for something. Can you put a translation on your videos? Thank you😊
You did this for what tho?Because everyone did it and you thought you were doing something good by harassing someone on the internet?In the end it shows that most of the time people don’t give 2 fs about peoples mental health and it showed.But thank you for atleast admitting it.
The good thing is the Korean public is starting to reject Mina for being a dirty liar and asking Jimin to comeback to the industry. I hope she’s healthy and fine wherever she is right now.
When I saw Jimin in super junior's super TV she looked healthy and bright ( even though she might have had issues to deal within the group). She blended well with Suju members and I loved her personality there. For me she was the prettiest in the group. I hope she is ok 😔
i was wondering what you think of wonyoung’s situation? she’s always been very slim, but recently everyone’s been saying she’s “drastically lost weight”.. in a way, there’s hardly a difference, but also it is noticeable?? i look forward to seeing a video on it if you decide to make one
