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Apache Witchcraft | Top 5 Stories of EVIL Apache Witches and "POWER" 

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VIDEO DESCRIPTION
Apache history is full of lore involving people with incredible abilities they call "Power." It is given to them by God and is said to allow chiefs and medicine men the ability to heal the injured, locate the enemy, slow time, and even control the weather. But the stories also include a darker side. Witches. When the Apache given Power use it against their own people the consequences were sometimes disastrous. In this video I have complied a five part story about Apache Power and Witchcraft and wrap up the video with maybe the most compelling question.... Is any of this real?
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Episode Introduction
01:00 Explanation of Power
04:50 Lozen
07:17 Geronimo
09:26 Witches and the Wrong use of Power
12:52 Alternative Explanations and Conclusions
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VIDEO RESOURCES
The Foundations of Shamanism and Witchcraft by Manvir Singh
dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/ha...
In the Days of Victorio: Recollections of a Warm Springs Apache by Eve Ball and James Kaywaykla
Indeh: An Apache Odyssey by Eve Ball
Geronimo by Robert M. Utley
How Geronimo Eluded Death and Capture for 25 Years
www.history.com/news/geronimo...
Magic, Explanations, and evil: On the Origins and Design of witches and sorcerers by Manvir Singh
Nine Years Among the Indians by Herman Lehmann
Western Apache Raiding and Warfare by Grenville Goodwin
Western Apache Witchcraft by Keith H. Basso

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@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
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@drj.r.cooper2493
@drj.r.cooper2493 11 месяцев назад
👍Good job!👍 I am a published researcher & scientist. As such, research into human electromagnetic signatures suggests some animals can "read" these energies. Various signatures help dogs, deer, etc. recognize people who mean no harm. Some people seem to possess the ability to calm (or frighten) people by looking at them, even from concealed positions! I also grew up deep in rural southern Appalachia. Members of my family & other respected friends tell of witches. These witches have been seen commanding rabid dogs & other wild/feral animals. They are said to command heavy furniture to "dance" (alternative legs raising & lowering) without anyone touching it. They CAN NOT make the furniture move if a Bible is placed on it. Today's pharmacist was called a wizard 200 years ago. Even today, there are countless phenomena beyond scientific understanding. Witches? Evil? Why not?
@clayjoe5734
@clayjoe5734 11 месяцев назад
@@drj.r.cooper2493 yes this is why they outlawed if not str8 killed
@roywiley2828
@roywiley2828 11 месяцев назад
The Apache have Jewish bloodlines the lord Jesus was helping with the weather
@clayjoe5734
@clayjoe5734 10 месяцев назад
@@roywiley2828 idk, I've heard this before I just don't understand that, we are a matriarchy, Jewish ppl are patriarchal
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 10 месяцев назад
There is a book all about her called warrior woman by Peter Aleshire that I haven’t read. But I have to imagine he pieced together his story from Apache history and Apache Narratives from Eve Ball. Her book in the Days of Victorio has the best information I have seen but her other books mention her as well.
@jasongeorge745
@jasongeorge745 11 месяцев назад
In the book "I rode with Geronimo" The writers christian name was Jason and his Mother and him rode with Geronimo when he was 12 (he was related to him). He relates when they were in the Sierra Madres running from the Americans, Geronimo had a strange look come over him and told his party that tomorrow at noon they would come across the americans soldiers and that a man would be on the left side of the trail waving a white flag to talk. And that is exactly what happened the next day at noon. Jason lived to like 90 never drank and became a blacksmith and Christian and married a white women. But he says he saw Geronimo do this with his own eyes.
@davidpahlka6301
@davidpahlka6301 8 месяцев назад
In the book, "An Apache Campaign" by John G. Bourke, he mentions how their White Mountain Apache scouts (who were rivals to the Chiricahua) used his ability to predict that meeting with Geronimo. The 'seer' laid down and had his relatives chant. Then he asked "yes" and "no" questions, narrowing down until he received the answers. Finally he said they would meet Geronimo's band in eight days. Only one person would be killed. That was exactly how it happened. The man waving the white flag was General Crook himself. He knew to talk peace with the Apache you had to go alone. The person killed wasn't a warrior but an old lady who was killed by a scout because of a blood feud. Geronimo knew it didn't break the truce. Bourke said they enlisted other tribes as scouts but the only good ones were the White Mountain Apache. Only 1/2 of the Chiricahuas fought against the U.S which was only one fourth or one fifth of all Apache tribes but they fought them longer than any other Native Americans. They did have special talents.
@JuanMendietta-ff6ie
@JuanMendietta-ff6ie 9 дней назад
Wait isn't Geronimo the descendant of geranimo mendietta from Spain?
@user-iq8qh4kp4v
@user-iq8qh4kp4v 2 месяца назад
My name is Lonnie, from the White Mountain Apache, from the Road Runner Clan, of the Standing Tall People, as a child I was told about Geronimo & Lozen, what you have researched is similar to what I was told, from my personal opinion, you did an excellent job on this "documentary" also I appreciate when you said "I have respect for the Apache"
@cademosley4886
@cademosley4886 11 месяцев назад
There was another quote from Asa Daklugie to Eve Ball that's stayed with me. He said Apache didn't like to talk about religion with Anglos & Europeans not only because they were subject to ridicule, but also because it was the one thing that the colonial settlers couldn't take away from them after they had taken everything else. That made a deep impression on me how important holding on to their beliefs were for their community. The other part of that that impressed me was that right after saying that, he conceded that Eve Ball had already learned enough and showed her good will that she needed to have the full & accurate story. So he made an exception for her and gave her lots of details about Apache religion.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
She definitely put the time in to find out their stories. The books that came from her work with the Apache are so insightful.
@abc-dj3dx
@abc-dj3dx 11 месяцев назад
What they could not take away is Nagual. Also; Yin, Samsara, and Uyaga (Cherokee). These can be used to find information about It. It is the one thing the colonials deny above all else. They couldn't take it away from us because the Nagual is personal, not communal.
@abotaccount6094
@abotaccount6094 11 месяцев назад
Normally i would be very skeptical of 'abilities' and things we dont understand, but i had a similar experience throughout childhood. I did not have to go on a journey, but i would get snapshots of my future in my dreams. I could vividly describe the sight, sounds, my thoughts and feelings in a moment in time that had not occured yet even if they made no sense to me at the time, but it would only be these tiny glimpses. I thought they were just like normal dreams, but i never forgot them like i did my other dreams. I didnt think anything of it until one day at a theme park i experienced one of those snapshots moments again but this time in reality and not my dream. Everything up until the moment was normal, but the same sights, sounds, thoughts and feelings came back as i entered a moment i had already experienced. The fragmented senses and feelings i had in the dream unfolded in front of me and i finally understood the context that led up to and after that moment. And of course like everyday, another moment later and life is back to normal proceedings but im left with a deep sense of deja vu. Again i would remain skeptical, even as it happened a few more times. The dreams were never about an important life event, just little arbitrary moments in my life. I thought it could be any number of things from false memorys and other tricks of the brain, but i started to read others have experienced what i now know were precognitions. Supposedly there are also premonitions, or sight of bad events to come. Not sure what you should make of all this, not entirely sure what i make of this. And like the natives, im hesitant to share this experience because honestly, it just sounds crazy to me and especially so for people who havent experienced it. I like your style, like a story told over drinks with friends, so heres my little story
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate it. You went into far more detail than I will in this thread by deja vu is a interesting feeling. There have been a number of times in my life where something is happening where I freeze and actively think that I have seen this before. Never anything to the extent where I feel like its any kind of precognition but only in like a passing feeling of repeated experience.
@mitchkelleher7972
@mitchkelleher7972 11 месяцев назад
I've had the same thing. I would dream a future event, always something unimportant, and I would remember the dream when the real life event happened. On an occasion or two when the dream would match, I would also note that it diverged from the real event after a few minutes (usually into weird dream stuff that doesn't make sense). I've also had that odd deja vu feeling from events that were not foreseen in a dream (at least not that I recall) and were less a feeling like I lived this moment and more like I've been here before in a less specific sense. I guess more location based than time.
@tchilino78
@tchilino78 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. You describe your experiences really well. Life is mysterious.
@ryanjohnson8875
@ryanjohnson8875 10 месяцев назад
I’m so kkkllkkllłk mmm m
@bryanjames7528
@bryanjames7528 10 месяцев назад
Same for me. I'd have dreams bout things. Then years later I would experience something like dejavu. Sometimes I would watch a certain movie and a scene would give me dejavu. I knew I'd seen the scene in movie when I was a child. Don't have an explanation for it
@terereynolds698
@terereynolds698 10 месяцев назад
I'm not Apache, I'm Diegueno aka Kumeyaay, we're from the San Diego, California coastline. My grandma always told us to be inside the house by 2:am because that's when the dead traveled to visit friends and loved ones in their dreams. Our reservation is 30 miles east of downtown San Diego. My grandma was a healer, and a quilt maker.
@poutinedream5066
@poutinedream5066 4 месяца назад
My people also say to be in the house by 2, but the reason is "aint nothin open but bars and legs." Either way, sounds like good advice 👌🏽
@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy
@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy 2 месяца назад
​@@poutinedream5066right!!!😅
@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy
@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@amandalocicero8273
@amandalocicero8273 17 дней назад
Nice, I’m Apache but live in San Diego. Ancestors from Nee Mexico
@cleganebowldog6626
@cleganebowldog6626 11 месяцев назад
I think you are quickly becoming one of my favorite youtube channels, keep up the great work!
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite viewers. Thanks for watching!
@TommyTwoSocks
@TommyTwoSocks 11 месяцев назад
Myself as well, this guy is great
@steveblack6910
@steveblack6910 10 месяцев назад
I must admit, the Apache are fascinating. Difficult and uncomfortable to imagine a ferocity and toughness honed by centuries of pure survival. Whatever else they were, they were impressive!
@kingjsolomon
@kingjsolomon 15 дней назад
We call it díyé
@lynette6821
@lynette6821 10 месяцев назад
I'm an apache from San Carlos rez Even today there is a bad medicine . Good and bad continue their fight . Life goes on . Yeah hello from San Carlos .
@MichaelRSchultheiss
@MichaelRSchultheiss 11 месяцев назад
These are amazing stories! As a boy, I read books about Geronimo and Cochise and was completely mesmerized. It has been a great pleasure reconnecting with some of those stories and learning a great deal more through your videos on the Apache. I want to particularly commend you for a very anthropological handling of Apache religion and beliefs on this video: it's commendable that you recognize the need to be humble about our own default materialist perspective in the modern West. Cheers!
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely. I can rationalize all I want in my mind but I have encountered countless people who swear to have experienced things that don’t fit in the kind of reality we generally consider. I don’t think it is that far fetched to think there are things we don’t understand. All of that said, there are really social benefits to these beliefs too. It’s incredibly interesting to consider where the two overlap.
@thegreatermysteries4134
@thegreatermysteries4134 10 месяцев назад
@@datesanddeadguys Agreed. Well said.
@tammyhaas9304
@tammyhaas9304 10 месяцев назад
What the white man did to Geronimo is a disgrace to all people!!! History is never taught in school
@ewy5584
@ewy5584 10 месяцев назад
I’m Apache and this shit is real. If a witch puts something on you, it’s goin to suuuuck. What overcomes it? Prayer, lots of prayer, service to others and Love. Giving Love and Showing Love.
@ryllaraevans822
@ryllaraevans822 10 месяцев назад
Are there witches that can shiftshape into different animals?
@user-ly3li3ex8c
@user-ly3li3ex8c 10 месяцев назад
Just repent and pray to Jesus instead of doing all these useless works
@prodigalson6166
@prodigalson6166 10 месяцев назад
​​@@user-ly3li3ex8cyou don't know Jesus. USSEN fits the description of what Paul of Tarsus described on Mars Hill in Acts 17:22-29. Jesus did not teach theism he taught Animism. Jesus and his apostles also taught against idolatry; thanking God is a person is idolatry. Jesus was killed by the Pharisees because he taught against the idolatrous worship of scripture as God's word. Just as Jesus said "before Abraham was I am" so also before Jesus was Christ. We do what your prophets in your Bible did, we we want to talk to the Creator we go into the wilderness. This is why we have power just as your prophets had power. And for this reason, that you turn to a book instead of the creator as Jesus and the profits of your book did, this is the reason why you do not have power. This is the reason why you do not have the signs of an apostle as your book speaks of. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@beauwhitlock5034
@beauwhitlock5034 10 месяцев назад
Human consciousness manifests in many ways. Some of the stories about Geronimo sound a bit like synchronicity by someone who is plugged into the underlying forces. Also, Native Americans not only had information passed down, but evolved isolated for tens of thousands of years. It make me ponder the idea that perhaps extra sensory powers evolve along side biological features.
@Oracle-Oasis
@Oracle-Oasis 2 месяца назад
We are strongly connected to nature.
@E_915
@E_915 12 дней назад
What we deem extrasensory is not really “extra” per se. They are powers inherent in all of us, already. However depending on the individuals development they are either easier accessible and pronounced or they lie dormant. For various reasons. One can reawaken these powers lying dormant in your soul but it must be done according to the work you have put in.
@wilsonshahzeb2
@wilsonshahzeb2 11 месяцев назад
No matter what I’m doing I stop when I see an upload from dates and dead guys!
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate that. The Apache series has come to a close. What topics would you like to see next?
@clairissabirdshead7708
@clairissabirdshead7708 10 месяцев назад
This is absolutely true to this day, with many tribes with the exception of trials, banishments, punishments are different as the times have changed. Those who abuse their power or steal others powers will be met with many losses but their obsession for more power and control is more important and at some point they usually end up over their head and are now a slave to the spirits they called upon in the first place.
@dannydavis8889
@dannydavis8889 11 месяцев назад
Apache Shaman have power and I have witnessed it. I studied to be a tracker under an Apache Shaman and his power was far greater than anything you have mentioned in this story. He only used his power for good.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Tell me about it. What did you see?
@Owl-of-Minerva
@Owl-of-Minerva 11 месяцев назад
Mitakuye Oyasin
@chesterwortham5525
@chesterwortham5525 10 месяцев назад
His power came from demoic spirits it was not for good
@marleneherrera3008
@marleneherrera3008 9 месяцев назад
That's awesome!! 😊
@gladiatorghostboy
@gladiatorghostboy 9 месяцев назад
We apache don't have shaman this is obviously bullshit and even if we did I'm sure they wouldn't hunt with u
@nancyswass119
@nancyswass119 11 месяцев назад
I experienced an "anomaly" in time while traveling through the Arizona desert. Those traveling with me also noticed this. While no one else (around us) knew what we were describing. The point is this---- it was true for us.
@heliosgnosis2744
@heliosgnosis2744 10 месяцев назад
what kind of anomaly??
@jerlaine1638
@jerlaine1638 10 месяцев назад
Maybe explain here, and what part of Arizona considering it's all desert *Edit* Apparently I need to actually specify this. I don't have a TV because I've spent most of my adult life travelling for a living and a very large portion of that was spent travelling through Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. Yes I know Arizona is not literally ALL Desert, it was a joke not your dad's dick so stop taking it so hard. To those trying and pathetically failing at calling me out, good job now politely go fuck off. Or try telling me something else super obvious. Oh and I bought my last truck in Alpine Arizona, I'll let you dumb fucks figure out if that's a desert or a Forrest.
@danielmacias439
@danielmacias439 10 месяцев назад
My dad tells me wild stories sometimes and I asked him one time “did that really happen” he looked at me with the most serious face and said “it did for me” and something else along those lines. Rarely have I ever seen him so serious again. It stuck with me. I’ve seen some things I can’t explain either
@heliosgnosis2744
@heliosgnosis2744 10 месяцев назад
@@danielmacias439 I have seen the sun begin to rise then set again to rise 10 mins later out at sea. That is creepy. And I can use celestial navigation and no it was not an orbital anomaly unless we all 5 in told hallucinated the same exact thing and for 10 mins then anomaly proven is what that was. 1995 80-90 miles off shore of Wrightsville Beach NC. The coast guard station at Wrightsville aa the crow flies. And hiking in Canada as well as in Tennessee/North Carolona mountains the same impossible sound and idk creature manifestation but it is impossible. I will not rant unless anyone wants,to know the details think of all of this just reminded me of those times and how similar and weird with everyone present experiencening the same thing
@samuelclayton08
@samuelclayton08 10 месяцев назад
​@heliosgnosis2744 I am pretty sure I saw two suns setting once in Maine. A weird brain fog occurred at the same time, like a weird instant brain mushing that made what I was perceiving to be even harder to comprehend. Then I snapped out of it and the sun (or suns) had set. I'd like to know more about what you saw
@evandawson4862
@evandawson4862 11 месяцев назад
The closer people are to the earth, the more grounded they are. Not up in the air and all over the place like modern people
@leslieanne447
@leslieanne447 10 месяцев назад
Satan is the prince the powerr of the air
@redclayscholar620
@redclayscholar620 10 месяцев назад
I'm 14 and this is deep.
@JohnFadtu
@JohnFadtu 9 месяцев назад
That explains the obsesión with tall buidlings
@johndufford5561
@johndufford5561 11 месяцев назад
Great video, presented with fairness & honesty. Just read all the comments & vitually nobody mentioned you going "whaling". When the off-screen person corrected you, your response was perfect! Cracked me up & then your couple references even during the advertisment. You're good at this, Son. Really good. Thanks for the ride! Enjoyed it.
@ericb2409
@ericb2409 10 месяцев назад
Whale watching! What? 😅
@LisaDye-nb6ic
@LisaDye-nb6ic 10 месяцев назад
I am Mesquelero Apache and Geronimo is an uncle of mine one of my greats and i too can make things happen.
@leslieanne447
@leslieanne447 10 месяцев назад
New mexico❤
@blackcutlass1
@blackcutlass1 3 месяца назад
I'm part mescalero apache as well! My family's last names is Carriaga, Garduno and Morfin. I've never met another mescalero apache descendant besides family! I too have dreams that come to pass. I have had dreams that would come true on numerous occasions. I dreamed once that firemen came into my house but I couldn't see their faces. And the most brightest faced fireman grabbed me by my shoulder and said your house will burn down. Do not be afraid all your family will be saved even the parrots will be saved. I woke up sweating. About 4 years later my house caught on fire. Other dreams like that came to pass as well....
@sage1682
@sage1682 Месяц назад
Geronimo was Chiricahua not Mesquelero, how was he your uncle? Lol
@Demac137
@Demac137 3 дня назад
@@sage1682marrying in
@notconsenting6633
@notconsenting6633 6 месяцев назад
As an Apache myself I love your videos and your interest
@AustinMitchell-ip6ff
@AustinMitchell-ip6ff 11 месяцев назад
Most don’t realize, one of the main reasons settlers and Indians could never live in peace was the difference in religion. The descendants of puritans vs these guys
@scarlettowl338
@scarlettowl338 3 месяца назад
Yes yes ... because those guys were the only ones to have witches. It's totally not an English word.
@derekbootle8316
@derekbootle8316 11 месяцев назад
The apache trial is very similar to Family Court.
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 11 месяцев назад
So, being patterened after Apache witch trails, family court is even more politically correct than I thought. Who knew it could get any worse?
@IAMMEDUSA
@IAMMEDUSA 10 месяцев назад
These things exist. We are part of so much more than most can comprehend. It’s completely natural to have natural abilities that are unexplainable. Some stories real some embellished. Belief in a higher power is something that can go back to the beginning of man. It brings oneness to human society and respect for nature. They can live in harmony side by side.
@allenmihavics8852
@allenmihavics8852 10 месяцев назад
The way you describe Lozen’s ability to locate an enemy sounds very similar to Chi, in Chinese culture. The flow of chi throughout the body will often move to a place in the body you wish to focus the energy or to a place that is injured. If you direct chi to the hand for example, it will present itself by turning the hand red. The hand will become hot and also exhibit a tingling sensation.
@dustinmiller2775
@dustinmiller2775 10 месяцев назад
Energy flows where attention goes 😎
@dookahan
@dookahan 8 месяцев назад
Chi is Power Power is Chi
@russellbates2125
@russellbates2125 4 месяца назад
@@dustinmiller2775bingo.
@fireborn9065
@fireborn9065 11 месяцев назад
Loving this channel! Great stories, well presented on fascinating historical figures that don't always get a lot of coverage. Awesome job!
@joe5.043
@joe5.043 11 месяцев назад
I love this channel. Also when you curse or say any cussing words that is a demons name. The F bomb is a demons name and when you curse at anything or anyone you are summoning that demon. People do that everyday unconsciously.
@Drpepperspray1010
@Drpepperspray1010 10 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣
@dchief2924
@dchief2924 10 месяцев назад
​@@Drpepperspray1010feeble mind.
@davidsleiffer8809
@davidsleiffer8809 10 месяцев назад
The notorious demon named shit.
@Cinnamon666Coca
@Cinnamon666Coca 10 месяцев назад
@@davidsleiffer8809😂
@BernardMolloy
@BernardMolloy 10 месяцев назад
Apache genocide,talk about that.
@joeproctor2216
@joeproctor2216 7 месяцев назад
Can't tell you thank you enough for this channel. I grew up in Apache Junction and have always felt a connection. Love this style of storytelling... Great work!!!
@gwenjones667
@gwenjones667 10 месяцев назад
Native Indians are more aware of spiritual gifts given to many regardless of color by the creator...Europeans once understood this until the Roman's forced all to give up and conform to what they wanted the people to believe to control the people
@thegreatermysteries4134
@thegreatermysteries4134 10 месяцев назад
For my money, this is your best episode yet, by a wide margin. Some things in life are difficult to explain, and our unconscious minds are often stronger than our conscious ones. More like this, please! 👍👍👍
@katipohl2431
@katipohl2431 11 месяцев назад
In Nepal there is a division between shamans and witches too. Shamanic activities can be done openly in public. Hi from Germany and I stayed alltogether 1 year in Nepal.
@anxy4895
@anxy4895 11 месяцев назад
thank you for the video and research you put in! some videos as a first nation make me feel some type of way but generally always finish the video with something i learned. this video just showed the amount of research you put into this content. thank you
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
These videos require a lot of reading. I only make the video because I read most of this stuff anyway. I hope I do the content justice, even though it is impossible to get everything right.
@anxy4895
@anxy4895 11 месяцев назад
@@datesanddeadguys Idk if the cypress hills massacre ever reached your radar but it’s a controversial story to say the least in Canada
@thegreatermysteries4134
@thegreatermysteries4134 10 месяцев назад
@@datesanddeadguys Your efforts are greatly valued and appreciated, sir.
@evelyntanswell3311
@evelyntanswell3311 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your informative videos. I found my first one yesterday, and today I have listened to two more. Your clear pronunciation certainly makes them easier to listen to.
@stonerllc7585
@stonerllc7585 11 месяцев назад
Excellent, yet again! Great job, so glad to see you grow, you deserve it!
@TheTMS726
@TheTMS726 10 месяцев назад
Yep, you have become my favourite channel!
@nicholasconrad1324
@nicholasconrad1324 10 месяцев назад
@datesanddeadguys Hey brother! I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your channel. I recently read Empire of the Summer Moon, killers of the flower moon, and just finished Comanche Moon. Your channel is awesome. My favorite on RU-vid. Love what you do man. Thanks again!
@Coach_Isaiah
@Coach_Isaiah 10 месяцев назад
Very thorough and thoughtful work, keep going with these videos.
@gibs83
@gibs83 5 месяцев назад
I have noticed that spiders get really ambitious with there webs in the summer time during a heat wave! the bullets can't kill you, i reckon that's teaching him not too be fearless! (fortune favours the brave) the slow down time - you see that in sports sometimes! (it seems like they have all the time in world) just my best guess!
@ewellfossum
@ewellfossum 10 месяцев назад
Im a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache and have commented before on your videos. Apache witchcraft has devastating effects as i have witnessed many things. Our family has lost members because of witchcraft and time has a way of sending back this unholy practice back to the ones that deal in it.
@delvinlang6507
@delvinlang6507 9 месяцев назад
Warm Springs and chiricuaha is different ..
@ewellfossum
@ewellfossum 9 месяцев назад
@@delvinlang6507 nope Warm Springs Chiricahua is a band of Chiricahua fool.
@ct.realestateinvestments
@ct.realestateinvestments 11 месяцев назад
Another awesome banger! One of my favorite!! Geronimo’s lore deepens. Thank you.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate it. I got carried away. Originally I played the the idea of just doing a five minute piece on the limited sources on Lozen but research takes you down more and more rabbit holes. But I hope people like it.
@ct.realestateinvestments
@ct.realestateinvestments 11 месяцев назад
@@datesanddeadguys no it was definitely fascinating and we like that shit, it’s why we’re here😂 I don’t think any viewer would say theyre disappointed. Thank you again!
@ivanc9231
@ivanc9231 11 месяцев назад
Da go teh, great video always looking forward to these I hope you don't mind me sharing these amongst my apache brothers A'HO 🦅
@Owl-of-Minerva
@Owl-of-Minerva 11 месяцев назад
Was just having a discussion regarding the issue of Native American curses. Specifically, the Navajo cursing their Ute neighbors. His reaction is what I would expect from a soul that has been abandoned and no longer remembers his family. Great Spirit works in interesting ways.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I talk about it a bit at the end of the episode. I don’t know how to feel about this topic but I do think there is something innate in people that makes them wary of the supernatural. That is a difficult thing to discount.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I haven’t looked into the Utes much on their own but have encountered them in reading about other groups like the Comanche. If you have any topics or stories about them you think people would find interesting shoot it my way.
@steakeater4557
@steakeater4557 11 месяцев назад
Yeah i'd feel bad after being randomly accused too. Past that, Apache language is Navajo language just faster, like video playback speed faster since it's "song". Very interesting, like old biblical chants but different worlds of living.
@ericb2409
@ericb2409 10 месяцев назад
@@steakeater4557If the languages are so closely related, are these two tribes closely related? I’ve never heard this before. So interesting to me.
@justinwynn7946
@justinwynn7946 11 месяцев назад
Awesome job on this Apache history, bud. Super in depth but not bloated with fluff. You're research for these videos exhausts me just thinking about it. Would you mind if I asked when you will be doing videos on a different subject? Not that I don't love what you're doing now... I learn a TON while watching and I'm pretty sure that I'll watch whatever you decide to put out there. Just curious is all, I guess. Anyway.. absolutely flawless story telling imo.
@Alextrim92
@Alextrim92 9 месяцев назад
i really love your videos! thanks so much for taking the time and research!!!
@kathleengeiser6956
@kathleengeiser6956 10 месяцев назад
This is an excellent historical and insightful video. It gives the viewer a much more indepth look at the ways of the Apache. ❤
@BubbaZanetti_375
@BubbaZanetti_375 10 месяцев назад
Always a pleasure, thanks for these. I see one more book I need that you listed 👍🏻
@parsellart7805
@parsellart7805 11 месяцев назад
Excellent work and research on your part. Thanks so much. I am going to share this with a Native American friend of mine who is so busy in her business to do the research herself. I think she would enjoy this.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Please do. I hope she like likes it. Thank you for the comment.
@delvinlang6507
@delvinlang6507 9 месяцев назад
Some is true and some aren't. Just stories he heard.
@muckcity0
@muckcity0 11 месяцев назад
Been watching your videos for about a month now. Normally I don’t comment but good stuff and thank you!
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate that. Thank you for watching. I hope I keep making material worth your attention.
@xyz_valkyrie
@xyz_valkyrie 10 месяцев назад
Dudes is my new favorite youtuber
@sage1682
@sage1682 10 месяцев назад
As a San Carlos Apache and Bylas Southern Tonto Apache, you nailed this❤ love it, I could tell you some weirddddd shit I've heard from my grandma
@RaymondRAYCE
@RaymondRAYCE 10 месяцев назад
I have ancestry from San Carlos Apache but none of my direct family ever cared or searched for more info. There was just an article about my great grandfather being full Apache but marked Mexican on his birth certificate so as to not be murdered or abducted and taken to boarding school... Would be interested to know how you think I may best learn more and connect?
@jasoncarter9185
@jasoncarter9185 10 месяцев назад
Safford/Thatcher here. I'm also part native American but don't know very much about my tribe of the Blackfoot.
@sage1682
@sage1682 10 месяцев назад
@@RaymondRAYCE Best thing to do is contact the tribe for the census and possible trace your great grandfather's mother or father. Could be flimsy since he was marked Mexican at birth but the most concrete way would to have your blood tested and get a blood quantum. It'll tell you down to exact ounce of blood you are of San Carlos. That's just to get into the tribe and place your lineage. For culture stuff you're gonna have to go there and talk to people, most of the stuff on our culture isn't written, as we are a secretive people, little is out there that talks about other Apaches and their religious beliefs or experiences. This could be a good way to get some of the roots like our Creation story and deities but to get a fuller picture of how they actually lived back in the day you need to read some books in first hand accounts of people who lived with them. Grenvillle has a great book on his time with the surrounding tribes and specially covers San Carlos Apaches and the Bylas settlement. Look up sunrise ceremonies, go to pow wows, don't fall into false narratives or make blanket beliefs based off the little you do piece together, it isn't until you get out there do you actually make sense of the long history. Best advice I can offer and I hope you find what you're looking for
@sage1682
@sage1682 10 месяцев назад
@@jasoncarter9185 It sounds like you didn't grow up on the reservation but if you're sure of your lineage and want more information you should contact your tribe and get the census to trace back to the specific family member that was registered as a tribal member. This will gain you access to enrollment and be able to participate in the community to learn more.
@jasoncarter9185
@jasoncarter9185 10 месяцев назад
@sage1682 Thank you for the information and I would truly love to be able to participate and learn more about my ancestors. Unfortunately my father committed suicide and he never knew who his father was but we have always had a strong connection with the great spirit and respect for our mother earth. It would be nice to feel like I belonged to something like a family. Much thanks again. I'm not absolutely positive I'm part Blackfoot it's really just what my father told me he had found out from his mother and I can't really verify these claims due to deceased family.
@gregkral4467
@gregkral4467 10 месяцев назад
like dowsing, i found so many lost arrows this way when I was young, scan general area with hands, if tingles, or feels enegetic, or electric, is getting close, look down and explore with foot. if having trouble use a weighted pendulum. A key and string works well.
@ashleydaymontgomery4929
@ashleydaymontgomery4929 9 месяцев назад
This was super interesting and I never ever heard about this before and I learned something new. Thanks so much for sharing this video
@carleto9597
@carleto9597 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for all the great stories of Apache and all the other native tribes you do. Keep up the great work. Thanks Amigo.
@shannon2228
@shannon2228 10 месяцев назад
❤ I also have most of these abilities. I am psychic and I can conjure the weather and I heal very quickly and I am good at healing people with my hands. And I love my gifts and abilities although when I was younger I did not understand them and I was very scared but now I'm fearless.❤
@gibs83
@gibs83 5 месяцев назад
do you have the time slowing down?
@shannon2228
@shannon2228 5 месяцев назад
@@gibs83 usually the only time that I have time slowing down is when there is an accident or something. Somebody hit me from behind when I was driving down the highway one day and everything went in slow motion.
@shannon2228
@shannon2228 5 месяцев назад
@@gibs83 and one time I was driving past a pack of puppies and this one puppy looked at me very strange and everything went to slow motion and within 24 hours that puppy died
@shannon2228
@shannon2228 5 месяцев назад
@@gibs83 I really honestly think that we are speeding up not time slowing down. If you are seeing things in slow motion it's because you need time to grasp what is happening. Sometimes the universe has to help us out a little bit. But I promise you the fact that you even care about any of this stuff means you're a starseed and everything will be all right. Hugs hugs from Northwest Texas
@andrewmclean6721
@andrewmclean6721 4 месяца назад
You are a great storyteller. Really enjoying this stuff.
@gladiatorghostboy
@gladiatorghostboy 9 месяцев назад
We know where that cave is we call it Geronimo's cave it's on our reservation, we had to seal it off because people idk how many but quite a few people gotten lost in there and were nvr found i even went exploring in there myself and almost got lost as far as ik there's only one way in and out
@johnsomething567
@johnsomething567 10 месяцев назад
As an Apache man that is also a shaman and home depot manager, I can relate to this video.
@giftoffire4868
@giftoffire4868 10 месяцев назад
Underrated comment.😅
@GracieAckerman
@GracieAckerman 10 месяцев назад
My grandfather was Apache and his mother was a medicine woman who was feared because you could not lie to her. Her power was being a human lie detector and I have that power from my great grandmother
@WeOutHerehuuuh
@WeOutHerehuuuh 10 месяцев назад
Do you know if someone who died lied
@FindingMyselfOutside
@FindingMyselfOutside 10 месяцев назад
Let’s play 2 truths and 1 lie, yeah?
@jeredubz24
@jeredubz24 10 месяцев назад
James randi may want to interview you lol 😂
@MrFreeze203
@MrFreeze203 10 месяцев назад
I feel like everything you just said was a lie. Does that make me a medicine man now? 😂
@GracieAckerman
@GracieAckerman 10 месяцев назад
@@MrFreeze203 checked your channel out - didn’t know someone could make music smell bad. You haven’t made yourself famous since February 11 2011, I guess it’s because feelings don’t trump facts
@michaellopez-em1ep
@michaellopez-em1ep 8 месяцев назад
My daughter has her a patchy side comes out when she’s in the desert the wild in nature she catches animals, but the animals don’t harm her. She catches fish with her hands. It’s amazing my grandfather’s half Apache. When she was seven months old, she would sit on it and ants nest and say they’re my friends and they wouldn’t bite her. They would go around her. She would play with them and they wouldn’t bite her.
@TommyGun1979
@TommyGun1979 9 месяцев назад
Some very special people have very special abilities, like controling matter to a certain degree. As for being "bullet proof", I met a man, very tough guy, who had 9 bullet scars in his body. On the 1st "seance" he received 2 bullets. 7 bullets have been lodged in his body on the 2nd attempt... The man was no force to be messed with
@aaronoverton3422
@aaronoverton3422 10 месяцев назад
Great job. Stories . Love it .
@lindawillets
@lindawillets 10 месяцев назад
Mom's friend given up for adoption at birth . For over sixty years native ways influenced his life even to deep studies of . some opf his closest friends have witnessed or observed him completing feats of Native Shaman . He has Native names including a Power Name . He died at eighteen years old ( lightening bolt and a dozen times since been struck ) . Natives that have died and returned have an ability to become Death Shaman , Last year he was given an envelope from his birth mom that had been locked in a safe for 47 years telling him of his birth family . Within twenty-four hours he selected an image online that turned out to be his older sister . She explained the family as best she could ( sadly she died three months later when a winter storm took out the electricity powering her oxygen ) . However she was telling him about their Native History , and Dad giving her the family Flame ( the eldest carries the flame , four siblings want nothing to do with him as they treating their oldest sister the same as they were the only two of the siblings beleiving in the family roots ) . . Unbeknownst to her she gave her brother '' the family flame '' . Doing research led him to find close to ten Native Nations . , many of his grandfathers marrying Chief's daughters ( close to 64% ) . Tracing those lines back to Chiefs living when the Europeans started their invasion ( his words ) . Mom's friend has been a reclusive person quietly doing Shamanic practice with souls that are stuck in limbo or needing a missing part of their whole soul and those of animals , shapeshifting things not allowed to be shared openly . Traveling and far seeing part of the meditation practice . Mythical creatures have been within an arms reach , objects in the air have been visible , the ability to walk up and touch critters in the woods as if one of them , standing close to others and not be seen , these only start to touch on POWER . You have done a nice explaining on this video . Thank you .
@leslieanne447
@leslieanne447 10 месяцев назад
Wow that is it with electric and lightning😮...
@robertoneil8266
@robertoneil8266 11 месяцев назад
Good video with good insight into the ways of the Apache
@alwaystired4583
@alwaystired4583 11 месяцев назад
I like that you put your sponsor at the end 😅 🎉
@7EvanPAC789
@7EvanPAC789 10 месяцев назад
I've always believed in God since born/little and I have heard God speak to me while awake.
@adamstephenson7518
@adamstephenson7518 11 месяцев назад
Interesting topic. Love the video man 🤙
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
It was a fun one to research. It is the kind of thing that you would love to observe what people are interpreting in the events.
@adamstephenson7518
@adamstephenson7518 11 месяцев назад
@@datesanddeadguys oh for sure!! Love your channel man, keep up good work 🤙🤙
@333pinkfeather
@333pinkfeather 9 месяцев назад
Man was given Dominion over all things .. we must use our gifts with wisdom and Love.
@temptationofthesoul
@temptationofthesoul 10 месяцев назад
Having experienced almost All these things-& more- I know they are true. Good program.
@dougdillon1271
@dougdillon1271 11 месяцев назад
Another excellent video!
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for coming back. I’m happy you liked it.
@lylefeatherstone1937
@lylefeatherstone1937 11 месяцев назад
I really enjoy your content. I hope you will do some videos on Indigenous history in Canada.
@777dolf1
@777dolf1 11 месяцев назад
You have the right idea, and it is done very well. Keep it up and you will hit 1 million subscribers in no time!!!
@delvinlang6507
@delvinlang6507 9 месяцев назад
Facts Dude .. talk to the elders. True Apache stories come from them and the Medicine Men
@Dirtface-vm4ck
@Dirtface-vm4ck 10 месяцев назад
Great job on your stories and channel. Very inserting al the stuff you talk about. my friend is Ojibwa and his res is in Minnesota. Any instersting stories on the Ojibwa peaple. Also i go up to sprit lake a nd turtle mountain in North Dakota they are Souix and chippewa. any stoires from up here. thanks again for a great channel
@wehausenphx3575
@wehausenphx3575 10 месяцев назад
My great grandfather was a medicine man in bylas ,AZ on the San carlos reservation. The power is real
@delvinlang6507
@delvinlang6507 9 месяцев назад
What was his name . I'm from Bylas...
@wehausenphx3575
@wehausenphx3575 7 месяцев назад
@@delvinlang6507 his name was Abraham Hadley,he was called "smooth road"
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 11 месяцев назад
"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." However much this may be true, it's still no reason for switching the skeptical part of the brain off so you don't fall for any- and every-thing. What we might call a "sixth sense" is most likely the mind working on a subconscious level, acting on observations made over a lifetime. Hence, predicting rain. It could be spider webs or soreness in the joints. And I'm glad I waited till the end to point out the obvious about the iron objects that can see in the dark. Still, a fascinating video. What would be interesting to me is to see how those people always quick to attack everything about Western Civilization and actual history will reconcile this video (and their assertation that all Native Americans are always right and justified in everything they do and far superior to the European descendents in every way) with their belief that witch hunts occurred in Medieval and Reinassance times because Christians were all stupid ignorant bigots for believing in witchcraft. Awesome video, please keep up the good work.
@aaronlorinchack1942
@aaronlorinchack1942 10 месяцев назад
This is my first time with your channel. Stay Awesome!!!
@lesliedefilippis2150
@lesliedefilippis2150 10 месяцев назад
Thank you!!! Your video is so very interesting!!! I really like your videos!!!
@Charlie.a
@Charlie.a 11 месяцев назад
Amazing work thank you.
@michaeldouglas1243
@michaeldouglas1243 11 месяцев назад
Outstanding content
@claradavis5911
@claradavis5911 10 месяцев назад
I love your history of the Apache thanks 😊 Godbless
@road_king_dude
@road_king_dude 2 месяца назад
Dude this channel is awesome
@jackiestowe6987
@jackiestowe6987 10 месяцев назад
There is a story in the Bible where time was stopped for a 12 hour period for a battle. It was Joshua, the battle of Gibeon.
@redclayscholar620
@redclayscholar620 10 месяцев назад
And just like that story it is little more than a tall tale.
@jackiestowe6987
@jackiestowe6987 10 месяцев назад
That would make every story in the Bible a tall tale. Which it is not. Every word is true or not one word is. I find that hard to believe when the concept of good and bad even came from the Bible, G-d’s word. That flood story. The one everyone gives the glory to Gilgamesh. That was actually Nimrod. They just changed his name. That’s the flood of Noah. Nimrod’s grandfather. How do you even think archaeologists got their jobs? From those true stories. They used the Bible as their road map. If you were to lay each religion side by side. You would see they all took from the Bible. So those stories are absolutely truth. @@redclayscholar620
@outlawandoutdoorstv9901
@outlawandoutdoorstv9901 11 месяцев назад
Thwre is nothing more inhumane then caging a person or animal. Everyone of the Father's creations deserve to live as they were created to . Roaming free in their respective environments.
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Are there not things people can do that would make you want to keep them away from your community? Within reason.
@gaebitch3200
@gaebitch3200 10 месяцев назад
that is the point of prisons, to punish the soul rather than the physical self.
@jameswoodard4304
@jameswoodard4304 10 месяцев назад
Almost everything you said applies across the vast majority of tribal peoples throughout history and across continents. The general human tendency is to begin seeing patterns and attributing reasons to the unexpected, powerful, or mysterious aspects of the world around us, which in premodern times is pretty much everything. Then, it is natural that some would become seen as experts and/or use such beliefs for social standing and/or benevolence while others would use such to not only explain good or neutral, but also evil phenomena and accuse people of being nefarious users of these mysterious means. A special supernatural force, ability, energy, knowledge etc. that is allegedly experienced and harnessed by revered shamans and misused by witches which must be hunted out, is nearly universal if you go back far enough in any culture.
@TommyTwoSocks
@TommyTwoSocks 11 месяцев назад
Tremendous work thank you
@datesanddeadguys
@datesanddeadguys 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching.
@christymorgan4793
@christymorgan4793 10 месяцев назад
I’ve had dreams that somewhere down the line came true exactly how I had dreamt it. Younger I had abilities that I ended up suppressing.
@byrde4329
@byrde4329 10 месяцев назад
The content is good! My only recommendation is to get a better microphone. High quality audio is soo important with these types of videos.
@karenfield748
@karenfield748 4 месяца назад
New sub. God, I'm glad I stumbled across your work. It's fascinating. Thank you. From New Zealand 🇳🇿 🎉
@tabbyrodriguez7028
@tabbyrodriguez7028 10 месяцев назад
Wow, I enjoy your stories. Also, a friend of mine, and his family would talk about how Geranomo Had a right handan and that it was their Great great great grandfather..I found this piture and one of the men standing near him, resembles my friend SO MUCH. THE ONLY THING IS my friend is bald and guy in pic has full long hair.
@delvinlang6507
@delvinlang6507 9 месяцев назад
The Only true ancestors to Geronimo live In Bylas and San Carlos Reservation. The others that say that there grandfather was Geronimo are lying to you ..if that's was his grandfather. Ask him what does this mean in Apache ..ditto.. tell him what does that mean if he is an Apache
@maxf7351
@maxf7351 10 месяцев назад
Its good to see that there are still people interested in the histories & cultures our indigenous Americans, and who take them seriously as they should be. The Apache were right to think that most Americans wouldn't believe them bc they don't believe in anything they havn't already documented themselves, except for Jesus of course lol. This Power is tapping into the spirit realm
@RustedPlastic11111
@RustedPlastic11111 24 дня назад
Great series.
@tomhanks1028
@tomhanks1028 10 месяцев назад
I frikin' love this channel
@Thecathunter
@Thecathunter 11 месяцев назад
Very good research and video. Something my grandmother told me when I was a young boy was do not try to understand them (whites/euros) and do not try to make them understand me.
@Theironbodysensei
@Theironbodysensei 10 месяцев назад
I lived with a Apache tribe and yes they have the powers. I have the 🌬️🍃🍃
@chickenhawk2253
@chickenhawk2253 День назад
bro snuck in a Pentecostal joke and didnt think we would notice. 😆 love the dry humor
@angelaparra802
@angelaparra802 10 месяцев назад
I love your stories ❤
@allenlindsey1175
@allenlindsey1175 10 месяцев назад
the spiders predicting the rain is 100% working on tug boats the spiders wouldnt even spin webs on the bargs when it was going to rain....in good weather there would be many spider webs EVERYWHERE
@Hero.pheonix
@Hero.pheonix 10 месяцев назад
My aunt would always tell me pay attention to them cows 🐮 out there in the pasture if you see the whole herd laying down in the field it means its gona rain 😂
@allenlindsey1175
@allenlindsey1175 10 месяцев назад
@@Hero.pheonix Yea...hahhaa i had a friend that Swore that predicted if the fish were gnna bite too.. hit and miss in my experience it was fun watching him get excited seeing that.
@Hero.pheonix
@Hero.pheonix 10 месяцев назад
Fish are easy with the right person all you have to do is sing or talk to them and they’ll show up
@allenlindsey1175
@allenlindsey1175 10 месяцев назад
@@Hero.pheonix ...yea..yea...thats what ive been doing. lolz
@barbhaley1820
@barbhaley1820 10 месяцев назад
Great content
@johnlynch-kv8mz
@johnlynch-kv8mz 10 месяцев назад
18:38 that there is something to it. Nice video, thank you.
@user-ec3fm9zs8o
@user-ec3fm9zs8o 9 месяцев назад
Just watched this episode; excellent. I'm a Caucasian boy; born and raised in Austin, Texas.. have traveled, fished and hunted in many parts of the State.... this stuff is no joke; the local natives were extremely capable, both physically and spiritually. Excellent content.
@Alemag_
@Alemag_ 11 месяцев назад
Amazing content.
@Fire0warrior182
@Fire0warrior182 2 дня назад
In the Diné(Navajo) the Apache were the clans who did not want to follow the original way, they went their way and do their ceremonies differently. Geronimo was a great man, and there are many bad men. In many if not all cultures.
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