I prefer the apc rinse method in my mobile detail operation. The South Florida weather is very unforgiving. This method is much more effective and efficient. It provides better results and the sealant lasts much longer. My maintenance times are decreased and clients love the results. Happy clients = $$$. 🍻
The only difference is that the APC-methode strips your car's protection (after a few washes)/stains the chrome/dry out plastics and rubber. The BH AF is for maintenance only and safe for the protection of the car.
That’s true. That’s why we only use APC rinsing on vehicles that haven’t been detailed in a while....which is 90% of our work. If used every single wash, your right, it could strip and dry out paint, rubber, etc. I think many Pope how we use the BH AF as a pre wash for dirty vehicles, that’s why so many have suggested it. Plus they watch tons of other Detailers use it on really nasty vehicles that have not been cleaned in some time. So that’s why I had to make the distinction and show the results. 😎👍🏼
I use APC pre soak for cars that really need it. Otherwise I just use snow foam. I keep my options open and always try the least aggressive method that I believe will work.
Great video. On dirty cars I love to use APC from BILT Hamber ( Surfex HD ) and foam on top of the APC. No pre rise first, Belive its safer for the paint that the dirt is wet befor it flyes of the car from the heavy pressure washer. Saves water to😊 Best regards Kenneth, Norway🇳🇴
Is super clean safe for an apc pre wash? Just curious because I wanted to try the method but also want to keep cost low and it’s always readily available. Was thinking either that or Meguiars apc. Wanted to test it on my car but it’s black and I’m scared haha. Love the vids btw!
Hi. Yes we have been using super clean for years. We dilute it 1:10 so it’s safe. Just use logic and don’t let it dry on the paint. If it ever stains it’s easily polished out. But I rarely rinse into that. If staining happening it usually means the paint has issues. It’s also better to use a foamer instead of just spraying it on. The foam clings and it doesn’t dry as fast.
Phil, do you have a rule of thumb dilution ratio when it comes to using a new apc and/or degreaser? I don't know that it can be a one size fits all but I often have thought 10:1 is a safe starting point.
Hi. High ph is alkaline and not acidic. Low ph would acidic. However I don’t use apc rinsing for maintenance washing. It’s only for initial details. For ceramic coatings you don’t need that aggressive of a cleaner if you’re washing it regularly. Just a good shampoo will work fine.
Do you now, APC rinse, every car, every time Phil? Snow foams alone really do next to nothing for cleaning. I was looking into a higher ph foam like Koch Chemie AF (9.5) ph. But they manufacturer and detailers say don't use it for every wash??
Hi. Nope. This type of strong apc rinsing is meant for initial details only. For maintenance details on protected vehicles I usually use either a ph neutral shampoo or a ceramic or wax infused shampoo.
I use this method. It definately prevents swirling possibilities that can happen with a contact wash without a pre-wash. Extra Tough works really well. Gets rid of 99% of the road grime and makes the final result clean and brillant looking. It is great for tires, rims and wheel wells and removes seriously stuck on brake dust as well. Great video!
To each their own. I will say that for a tough prewash, using the Auto Foam in an 8:1 solution is very thin. Try at least 2:1 or 1:1. Not saying that you should switch your method, just pointing out for those interested that in order to compare apples to apples, 8:1 is quite thin for an APC style wash stage.
Hi. Yeah I did in another video. I used it 1:1 and still thin. But I believe it’s supposed to be that way. Either way it’s way to expensive to use here in the US. Not worth it for us. I know our UK detailers love it because it’s cheap for them.
Hi there! Newly found your channel it is awesome! I have simple green on hand, can i use it same ratios as super clean for apc pre rinse on car exterior? Thx Your thoughts on simple green for this process welcomed
Hi. Thanks! I havent persoanlly used Simple Green for detailing, but I assume it would be ok, dilute it 1:10 and never let it dry and you should be fine.
Question why cant i just use dish soap for the pre rinse to loosen everything up wouldnt apc be more harsh then dish soap. Im just curious since we reapplying a coat it shouldnt matter in my opinion or am i wrong.
Hi. I have use dish soap before and it does work also. Dish soap is also a very strong degreaser don’t be fooled just because it’s used on dishes both products degrease and clean very well. Even dish soap can be harsh on car plaids and rubber trim if used regularly. But it can be used as a pre wash if you want.
@@MirandaDetailing thanks for clearing it up. I just think its safer for beginners because from what i heard sofar if you make a mistake with apc it does more damage faster having it on too long or something. Im just trying to learn and believe in measure twice cut once so once i know what to do ill do it right first time 😁. Another thing can i add a cap of apc to a wash shampoo to give it extra power or can i cause a chemical reaction that could damage paint note everything is before contact wash
I hear some detailers talk about how rinsing with just water on a dirty vehicle may cause scratches from the abrasion of the water pushing the dirt into the paint. I get so frustrated cause it feels like I need SO many methods and products to just wash my car safely at home... I think some detailers need to focus on the "KISS" method so that people wont get so frustrated and actually not be afraid to wash their own vehicles. I notice your videos are a lot less strict on what NEEDS to be done and you're more focused on what works for you and keeping it as simple as possible. Here's to hoping my $500 setup is good enough to wash my brand new car this week. First time ever washing my cars myself without going to those awful car washes! 😆
Yeah I used to drive myself nuts thinking the same thing…until a really thought about it. Many detailers follow others without actually using proper thinking abilities. I think about this: when driving at higher speeds and you drive through mud or dirt, it will wipe across your paint at high speeds….already causing scratches. Rising with water will not push it into the paint causing the scratches, the scratches are already there from driving! Nobody acknowledges this! 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. That’s when I started thinking for myself and teaching others to do the same. 😎👍🏼
@@MirandaDetailing I like the analogy you used, makes a lot of sense! Appreciate the response and you definitely earned a subscriber! Have a blessed week!
What I used is Bilt Hamber Auto wash instead of their foam which does way better for me.😉😃 Like you I use an APC but the one I use is Bilt Hamber Surfex HD which has many dilutions as well versatile for upholstery, carpets, etc. 😃 the use of the APC prior any foam is known as TFR removal in the UK which I learned that technique years ago and is faster and more efficient for cleaning cars like Allan told you.
@@LSD04 yes you use some chemicals like pre wash foam that are specific but if you use Bilt Hamber depending on the dilution can serve as well. In the USA there are not many products available specifically except a few like Ethos Foam Party which is a pre wash.
Great to see BH featured here. Have you tried their Surfex HD pH neutral APC/degreaser? It's my go-to pre-wash at 8% dilution. I follow up with a rinseless wash (Sonax BSD) I haven't had to use a shampoo in over a year as I follow this routine once or twice a week. Car is sealed with Fusso Coat and that makes a huge difference too.
From your video, I noticed you were very close to the vehicle with the pressure washer spray. Are you just blasting contaminants off that we’re not totally softened. Are you worried about damaging the finish? Here’s a thought: Spray APC on a dry vehicle. Let it dwell for 2 -3 minutes. Do Not Rinse! Apply a liberal coating of a quality car wash snow foam over the APC. Let the combination dwell according to manufacturers recommendation. Now rinse. Re-apply a second snow foam for your contact wash method. Finish as normal.
Hi. No worries. Our pressure washer is not very high pressure at all. About 1000psi. Even getting as close as we do it’s absolutely safe. The APC rinse we do is so effective it cleans extremely well. As far as the method you mentioned, that’s a great option, I’ve done that before. Pre rinsing or dry? Here’s what I have found. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CGBbYtdDqhw.htmlsi=xPMeFxbVvIqW4cTy
That’s a viable option also. We have experimented with that and found it not really to clean that this method does. But on some cases it does work on less filthy vehicles.
In the winter i bring a bottle of Greenstar 10:1 to the touchless. Spray the whole jeep down and drive through. Id say its 80-90% clean. I will finish with a waterless wash.
I know this is an older video, but after watching this video and seeing the results, I had to try it. I have a brown Silverado that masks a lot of grime and road film. Once I rinsed the APC pre-rinse off my truck, I couldn’t believe how much it removed! Then I tried it on a customers filthy Range Rover, and once again, amazed at how well it removed the road film / grime. Thank You for this tip and explaining the reasoning behind it.
I've watched a couple of your videos about using an APC as a pre-wash and tried it out yesterday. I was surprised by how much better the results were doing a simple touchless rinse. I will be adding this step to my routine from now on. Thanks for the videos.
I`m a mobile (self) detailer (I wash my own car in some parking lot) and I want to save water, but also not strip my wax/sealant. How many washes withstands a regular sealant with apc rinsing?
Well the pre wash like this is not meant for maintenance details. It’s meant for initial details. I usually don’t use it on protected vehicles with waxes and sealants. I would use a dedicated pre wash that is on the ph neutral side. On coatings it’s fine if they we showing signs of clogging. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EFaWGuiGc_c.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oyQRay-3bSw.html Try this as a pre wash bit.ly/3nyrgKN It’s safer on waxes and sealants. But only use it if the vehicle is really dirty but does have a wax or sealant on it.
@@MirandaDetailing Thanks. The Koch chemie af you use it as a spray or snow foam? I`m thinking lately this method: you spray apc (neutral or highly dilluted) or onr, on top you snow foam (neutral foam) and than you wash. Now, you can rinse and wash or just wash with the apc and foam still on. What do you think?
My opinion, having detailed for the past 22 years, owning numerous vehicles and working on plenty over the years. If the vehicle has a good layer of protection then a foam or soap pre-wash is adequate. If the vehicle does not have good protection then an APC pre-wash is preferred. It really comes down to how prepared and slick the paint is as to whether you need to use harsher chemicals to break down bonded contaminants.
@@MirandaDetailing thankyou for the reply! I love ur channel and how u explain the details , keep up the good work 💪🏻 the degreaser can be the engine bay degreaser too right? Because in my country products for car detailing are very limited , people dont really take care of the cars here.
Really?! I have detailing friends in FL who do this with no issues. Of course pre rinsing and not letting it dry...works great. we have high 90-100 degree days with high humidity here in VA also and we have done this on black vehicles in the direct sun on pavement. Work fast and this method works great. But curious...I would love to hear your methods...I'm sure it could help others who don't want to try this method
@@MirandaDetailing Interesting. I’ll have to play around with a few chemicals then. I’m sure it’s something simple like my dilution ratios. You mentioned you use extra tough APC in the video. Where can you purchase that product?
Good video and explanation Phil. I recently picked up the APC step from Pan the Organizer, but with a slightly different method to you. After initial rinse of vehicle, spray the APC on and let it dwell. Then straight over the APC (no rinse), apply foam wash and let it dwell. Then rinse which you are rinsing both the APC and foam wash off at the same time, leaving very little dirt and contaminants if any, on the vehicle for the contact wash. My car is coated with Opti-Coat Pro+ - 2 years ago. Cheers, Ozz.
Bilt hamber is powerful but you need half of a foam Cannon full to reach the pir. It uses a lot of soap. I'm thinking about switching to monello Lancia. It is the same in price but I've already read you don't need a lot and saw it is able to clean the same.
APC rinse all the way for cars that are neglected and/or are getting a sealant or coating anyway. I use the on board detergent tank on my pressure washer to spray APC on the lower half of the car (door handles down). If it's a cool day, ill spray apc all at once, let it sit for a few minutes, and then follow up with snowfoam on the rest of car. Finally pressure wash rinse the whole thing, this is all as a pre-wash step before doing a contact wash. I find that in most cases, this process removes most of the loose contaminates from the surface and just leaves me a light layer road down the sides of the car to deal with.
That’s a brilliant idea to use the detergent tank on the pressure washer! I used to do that but I haven’t even thought about it. I may need to figure out a way to do that now.
Yeah I seen the difference with apc rinse right away. Good call. I use Purple Power vehicle and boat wash for my apc rinse. Works good. One question I always forget to ask is, are we suppose to rinse/clean our foam canon's out after every use? Great video. Say hi to the wife.
Hi I don’t worry about singing out the foam cannon after every use. I try to mix up enough solution for 1 or 2 jobs then whatever I have left dump into the wheel or wash bucket and have extra foam. Then I rinse it out and start over again with a new soap. 😎👍🏼
Cool! I am loving the new MJJC foam cannon. It feels more sturdy and well built. The MTM versions are still great, but I love the features on this one.
Hey Phil! What's your take on Dawn Dish soap for the APC rinse? I realize that that's not your method so it's probably not as effective (if you've tried it out). But if it does 80% of the job, I'll just use that for my occasional wash instead of buying a dedicated APC.
Phil, really enjoyed this video, I'm convinced an APC pre-rinse is the ticket, effective and economical. I'm diggin' your new MJJC Foam Cannon, great design, looks like its built like a tank, I like the 360° ball so you can rotate it and get it under the truck if your were interested in foaming underneath. I think my cat was hinting she may get me one for my birthday. As a suggestion maybe you could do a video with various APC rinses, 3D, PowerClean, Meg's APC, etc., analyzing their effectivness, brand to brand.
Hi thanks...I have tried Power clean, megs APC, Super Clean, Super Degreaser, Koch Chemie Green and Pol Star and at 1:4 they all have the same effectiveness for APC rinsing. It just comes down to personal choice and budget. 😎👍
Does the apv pre rinse still work without the foam another channel says foam gives dwell time and it's a waste without foam pre rinse this seems just as effective in the pump sprayer
Hi. I have found that actually the original Apc rinse that we do using just the spray pump bottle can be more effective on really nasty vehicles. The foam does linger longer, but it doesn’t always clean better. It really depends on many variables, and one can’t say for a certainty that one way is better. Each has their place.
Been using APC in a pump sprayer and then rinse off for a long time. I then foam the car and do contact wash after that and I always get amazing results. I’m surprised that people are barely finding out about APC prewash now
Hi Exactly! I thought the same thing, We have been doing it this way for years now. I still get people asking me why we do it this way, and that we should try this method or that product....when all they need to do it a little research and try it themselves. Some love to watch others here on youtube and copy them without really understanding the process themselves.🤷🏻♂️oh well...watcha gonna do right?
@@MirandaDetailing true and you really see the film being pulled off after spraying it with APC compared to the grime still being on there without APC. I just think they question it because the big dogs don’t do it so they shouldn’t do it too and it’s the wrong way to wash your car. It’s sad but the truth about the detailing community
Exactly. I have found out through experience that many of these “big dogs” of detailing don’t really hustle at detailing to make a living anymore. Guys like Larry for Ammo, Mike Philips from Autogeek and other are amazing and I have learned tons form them. We have implemented many of their methods but, we have found that some methods are unnecessary, they are just shown as options, not as a “rule of detailing”. Detailers have to make up their own minds and find what works for them and never accuse others of not “detailing correctly”. When those accusations fly it really breaks down the detailing community and causes Detailers to stop thinking for themselves, they now are forced to abide by these “dogmatic detailers” who are really just bully’s. It will show their true colors. So I will always be a realist and show the truth even if others bully us, I actively fight it to help others think for themselves! 😎👍🏼
10:1 Greenstar during the winter. Follow with a Sio2 waterless wash at the coin op. I will bring a bucket with soap to hit the tires and wheels quickly.
Quick question from an enthusiast . you pre rinse before applying extra tuff doesn`t this doesn`t this reduce extra tuff affectedness with water being on vehicle already ? Thank You As always great info, you helped this enthusiast out of the rabbit hole of you tube detailer's.
Hi. Nope it doesn’t reduce the effectiveness at all. It’s safer to pre rinse in our opinion because if any APC drops down on dry paint it can leave drip marks. It’s not a huge deal becasue even if some APC stains paint it can polished out with ease. But we eliminate that risk all together by pre rinsing. Since we mix our APC rinse 1:4 it’s strong enough to work even with some water be on the paint already.
Awesome video and topic Phil.i tried both ways myself I gain 20 mins and it's not 50 bucks .Lol. My good friend Darren told me about 6 years ago that people want more but in some cases more Is just more. Lol.hreat job on the truck.b well good friend
Great review of the APC method. Will defo try it. I normally cheat and add citrus prewash to the Snow-foam solution in the cannon. I’m defo going to to try Rinse-APC-Rinse-Snowfoam including Contact wash and final rinse. The MJJC Pro canon is industry standard in UK. The canon even works well with the Hot Diesel Power Washer.
I've been using the APC method since I got my car...which has been for a month and 2 weeks now!! Still, it's been steady and dependable in getting my ride clean.
Hey Phil, how did this Malco CR2 Epic hold up. I have some in my shopping cart but haven’t pushed the button yet. Guess I’m looking for the holy grail of spray on’s lol…. Want to try TAC moonlight but can’t find it sold in the US anymore so just curious to how this malco did with water behavior and longevity. Thanks
I guess you would consider using a mitt to spread the apc evenly over the surface with a little hand pressure (after spraying it on) as just a wasted effort??? Also, using the pump sprayer guarantees the mix ratio on the surface to be exactly 1/4. Does using 1/4 in a foam pressure washer actually dilute the ratio due to all the water used?
Hi So before we actually contact wash or touch the paint with any mitts or towels we do this pre-wash or APC rinse. We don't want to agitate anything until the APC has time to dwell and be rinsed off taking the majority of grit and grime away with it. Using the separate pump bottle does ensure exact ratios, while using the foam cannon it dilutes it more and its hard to get exact measures with it.
Good video. A lot of dealerships moving to the method. Even adding a little APC to the wash bucket during the contact wash. , then quick dry and then iron remover or clay then iron remover whatever works. Either way good video
Great stuff. I always have a moment of panic when putting apc on for a pre rinse. Worried about the dulling, but haven't ever had an issue. Just seen others issues haha.
Thanks. The dulling may come from either single stage paint that can stain or a bad repaint job and the clear coat is already starting to fail or have issues. But who knows, some people either apply to much and wait to long to rinse it off.
My concern is if I’m doing a already waxed car this will most likely strip away that wax and have to recoat for an upcharge or waste some extra time and chemical out of pocket to recoat
Hi. So I think some people completely miss the point. This is for initial details not maintenance details. I explain that in all my other videos. Detailing is all about analyzing what needs to be done to each vehicle according to each service. The condition of the vehicle, the protection applied, the age of the vehicle….all these things the detailer must understand and decide how to proceed. Please watch all our other videos we explain in depth all these methods, procedures, and the reasons why we do what we do. 😎👍🏼
If I'm doing a APC rinse, do you think doing snow foam, rinsing, then doing a contact wash with the 2 bucket method as the third step overkill? Or is doing a APC rinse then foam and straight to contact wash enough and will achieve the same results
Hi. So the APC rinse replaces the typical snow foam so you don’t need do that if you’re doing the APC rinse. Also we don’t have two buckets for washing. We foam and contact wash right after the APC rinse. We have tried it multiple ways and found our method is fast, safe, and efficient for us.
The foam on auto foam seems really weak in the foam canon in your video, being in U.K we do a pre wash and rinse then contact wash with 2 buckets, I use auto foam all the time at around 2-4% panel impact ratio which means we have to use a lot of product but it’s cheap enough so no big deal , normally need around 500ml product to reach the highest PIR ratio but normally I use around 300ml to 700ml water which is around 2-3% PiR
Yeah I mixed it the way detailers said to, Meh…our other apc rinse method is cheaper, faster, and all around better from our testings. But as I always say, if it works for you, great, keep using it! 😎👍🏼
Thank you Phil for this video! I did the APC rinse as part of the prep for coating to remove the junk and whatever wax or oil the dealer applied on delivery. It did a much better job than the last time I did prep work. 👍
Hi. I have a bunch of videos on that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dl16KJyI1v0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ubD_0N7JoiQ.html Basically I let it dwell for 30-60 seconds and if n full sun just keep an eye on it so it doesn’t dry fully.
Phil I do pre-washes this way as well! Only difference is I use brake buster 1:1 for this step. That way I know it’s safe on any wheel finish I spray it on. Works well for me! At 1:1 use a bit of product but it’s so cheap I can’t complain!🤣
Hi Phil. Thanks for the video. I can't get extra tough here, I have purple power degreaser. What would be a good ratio for purple power degreaser ? Gracias
APC rinse is 🔥🔥🔥 for a non-maintenance vehicle. Thank you for sharing a key hack for DIY people. I noticed that if I use a foamer the cleaning ability is greater than spray.
Hey Phil is the Chemical Guys Nonsense cleaner the same as APC ? I think it is . I'm going to try this method a few times. Great work Miranda Detailing
Hey Phil, If you use a quality APC diluted properly is there any worry about it breaking down a ceramic coating? Obviously not right away but is it an issue over time?
Hi. Yeah it could cause some issues down the road. The APC rinse is really just for really dirty vehicles I clean initially. Once protected juts a regular rinse is sufficient. You could use a snow foam in a spray foamer to do a pre wash, that would be gentler on protection. I’ll be demoing hat soon with some good soap options.
For dirty trucks I combine both methods and add apc to my soap. I use Perl as well and just dump a couple oz of P&S enviroclean in it. Let’s it’s dwell a bit better than just apc.
Thanks for the info Phil! I noticed that you didn’t touch the truck box in this video. Isn’t this the same as detailing a trunk of a car? There are multiple variations for truck boxes: Tonneau cover (TC), no TC with ‘plastic’ bed liner, no TC with Linex (spray on protector). How do you handle these? Do you handle and price these differently? TY
You're Welcome, the customer doesn't care about the truck box and told us not to worry about it. but because it is a textured spray if they wanted us to clean it we would simply wash with a soft brush and thats it. most times we see covers and liners that are in work trucks and they can be cleaned more aggressively, apc, soft wheel brush and thats it. sometimes soft tonneau covers we wash with a seperate mitt or MF towel, dry, and apply 303 Aerospace on it.
I do have another video coming out soon where we used the BH AF in the ik foamer abour 1:4ish and it does work well on a nasty vehicle with mildew build up. But once again, having another product for pre washing isn't needed at all. Its nice and works and everything, but why spend money on that when our APC rinse method is fast and more cost effective? We counted all the costs and this is better for us and many others who have tried it. We have tried so many different APC's and soaps before and its all the same, so we choose the ones that are cost effective. No need to try everything people suggest to us. After many years we realize that it comes down to personal choice and technique.
@@MirandaDetailing that’s fair enough, as I’m in the UK I only pay £17 for 5 litres, the dilution can be an issue if you need the cleaning power and are looking at nearly a 50/50 mix. We also have another snow foam that matches it for cleaning power but at a lower dilution, only problem I find with that one is it doesn’t rinse too freely and you can find if in the door jambs etc. We also only pay £17 for 5 litres of Surfex HD which is a great APC, strong but with no caustic chemicals. If you get the chance of a freebie you should give it a try.
I used Super Clean diluted (1: 6) in a foam cannon on a dry black Honda HRV today that was not washed for 5 weeks but is new (2023). I let it dwell for may be 2 to 3 minutes and rinsed it with a small pressure washer and then used Adam's Mega Foam in the cannon and lightly agitated with a couple of different mitts and washed off. Came out pretty decent. I do wonder if APC foam cannon spray takes off any wax or sealants from the paint surface?
Hi. That's awesome! So since Super Clean is a strong alkiline cleaner it will definitely weaken waxes and sealants. that's why we dont use the APC rinse on protected vehicles, only on initial details.
@@MirandaDetailing Well next week I am planning on starting the process of prepping this car and my wife's new VW ID4 for Adam's Advanced ceramic coating so I guess APC will work instead of a strip shampoo I was going to use (Chemical Guys Clean Slate). I guess I could use both to be very clean
Yeah I watched it. Every Detailer has to decide for themselves based on the vehicle in front of them. There are no “rules” when it comes to these methods. Whatever the vehicle requires, is what a true Detailer should analyze, not what another Detailer told them. Good info though.
So to understand properly, do you rinse after you apply the APC? Or do you just foam it down with the foam cannon? Also, how long do you let the APC sit?
Well as we demonstrated in the video. We rinse first, apply the APC, wait about 30-60 seconds depending on how hot it is out and if we are in direct sunlight or not. Then rinse that off, that’s when you saw the traffic film and grime on the paint blasting away. Then foam and wash per usual.
I know this has nothing to do with this video but I have a question.... in your opinion what is the best and easiest to remove and work with ceramic coating for consumers
Hi. This coating is the easiest one I have ever used. Very easy to apply and level out. It only lasts 6-12 months if properly maintained. bit.ly/3e1DL8S Use this to maintain it bit.ly/3wVjlqC
Hi Sir, pardon me I have so many questions. - can I use more shampoo with water or dawn soap and spray it as pre wash coz I dnt have a foamer? - are degreasers more aggressive than apc?
Hi. Thats cool. I have answers! 😃 You can use a high ph shampoo to pre wash also, but we have found that a good APC works really well also. Yes usally degreasers are more aggressive but you can dilute them to work on paint also...usually 1:10 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dl16KJyI1v0.html
It can be done either before the foaming and contact wash or after. I prefer after the wash that way the chemical doesn’t have to fight through grime before it can fight the iron particles if any.
I wouldn’t use it straight. But I have been using it for years on paint and glass as a pre wash/apc rinse. I dilute 1:10 and foam it on with the IK foamer. Never had it stain or etch anything. But as always one should examine the vehicle and determine what the right procedure should be. I wouldn’t use this on matte finishes or special vinyl wraps. Also I only use our apc rinse on initial details and not as a regular maintenance pre wash. So many things to consider. 😎👍🏼
@@MirandaDetailing Thanks for the reply. I also have a detailing business & use Super Clean for various tasks. I like to use it for a prewash too and most of the time it never does any damage but I did have an instance on an older car where it ate through the clear coat even when diluted. I’ve also seen it remove dye from leather on older vehicles when used on the interior even when diluted 1:16. I used Super Clean diluted at 1:8 as a prewash on my AMG C63S and even though i let it dwell for only about a min in the shade it actually etched into my glass roof and ate the clear on my door handles. Super Clean is a great degreaser but it’s sketchy to use on certain surfaces even when diluted, but like you said there are so many factors and variables to consider. Most of the time it works with no issues, but every now & then I’ve had it cause an issue here and there & at a certain point of dilution, it’s like this is mostly water now & I might as well use something that’s a bit more safe for this surface that doesn’t need to be diluted so heavily… I was just curious to know if you’ve ever had any issues with it. Love your channel and your vids, they’re what helped me start my own detailing business. I think it’s awesome how you and your wife detail together, nothing more wholesome than that.
Wow That's crazy! I have never had to eat through clear coat or etch glass ever. I had one Aftermarket Ford Emblem that it messed up, but that's it. Do you pre rinse the panels? Do you use a regular sprayer or former to apply? usually 30 seconds of plenty of time, never longer than a minute. @@statusquoreject
Hi. Nope. We use it every time on our details for any color vehicle. We don’t do an apc rinse on maintenance details however since doing this can weaken any protection.
Love the video, first time to your channel. I’m sure you’ve been asked this a lot but is APC a degreaser? I want to use your method but not sure what to buy… Thank you for the great video!
