Apple TV 4K iTunes Movies (Dolby Vision HDR) vs 4K Blu-ray 

Please do not judge image quality solely from this video alone, because our camera's limited dynamic range cannot fully capture the HDR presentation accurately. Also, 2017 OLEDs introduce some blue tint off-axis which is unavoidable due to our camera/ TV placement, leading to colour differences which are not present in real-life viewing. But hey, it's in 4K! :-)

19:44 His Summary.... you’re welcome

Even though the picture is marginally better on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray from "normal" viewing distance etc. I for one appreciate the physical aspect of the media as well. I like the own my movies and collect them. The fact that it also has the best possible quality is a nice bonus.

That ending made me laugh pretty hard. Thanks for making this video.

The end of this video is perfect 😂😂💯👍

You could zoom in closer so we could see that graininess that you said is visible in the oppo but smoothed out on Apple TV. For HDR you could record twice: once with longer exposure / wider aperture so we can compare the darks and see the blockiness you mentioned, and once with shorter exposure / narrower aperture so we can see the detail in the bright regions.

If you can't tell the difference without getting next to the tv and looking at skin pores, it probably doesn't matter.

Great comparision, thanks for creating the video. How did you bring up the head up display on the ATV?

Hello Vincent, thank you very much for this very informative Video. Can you tell me how I can activate the Apple TV information for streaming bitrate etc.. (the yellow text on the top left corner)? greetings

Hi, how do you enable this playback info hud on apple tv? I can't find the developer options.

Again the question how do you enable to stream playback info on Apple TV I can’t find it anywhere. Please

Thanks for very interesting comparison. I know your love good picture quality, but what about the sound? there is no dolby atmos, but does the Apple TV play dolby master?

Great video. One of the biggest questions many have is whether Dolby Vision content with a lower bitrate from Apple TV looks better than UHD Blu-ray in HDR10 (i.e. without dynamic metadata). Studios seem to be releasing many more movies in Dolby Vision on Apple TV and simply releasing HDR10 to UHD blu-rays. A huge bummer for enthusiasts.

Hi! How do you switch on the playback info on your LG TV (I’ve a 55E9)? Thank you

Hi Vincent! I've asked this more than once! You showed that you could bring up the playback info HUD on the apple tv 4k box I have an apple tv 4k box but I don't know how to bring up the playback info. When I say to siri that show me playback info siri says no info on back info. how do I fix this problem? your answer would be much appreciated!!! Paul Benny

Hi Vincent, would you compare the upscaling quality (1080p to 4K) and native 4K HDR quality of Zidoo X10 vs nvidia shield vs Panasonic UB900

Vincent, how do you enable the stats/details on the Apple TV? Apologies if this has already been asked/answered somewhere down the thread. Thank You.

how you you enable the "yellow" on screen information from the AppleBox or is it from the LG ?

How do you get the Apple box to display info like mbps ? And that it’s actually upscaling the picture? I’ve been dying to do that for years

How did you get that information display on the Apple TV 4K TV? I have an LG OLED65B6P as well as the Apple TV 4k.

How can I enable the playback infos on the apple tv 4k? I found on the manual nothing about this feature?

Thank you for the comparison video Vincent. Could you confirm the Firmware version on the LG B7s. I just got the 4.70.07 update on my C7 which lists a lip sync correction in its notes. Could you also do a video on the new Technicolor Mode introduced by the new firmware update. Is it something useful/better than a calibrated ISF Mode ( I did notice that out-of-the-box Technicolor mode was much closer to 6500k than a non-calibrated cinema mode).

What the best tv for UHD 4K is that sony like you use for preview

Does the ultra hd bluray player have a sharpening filter applied too?

How do you turn on that log with all video and audio formats info???

Which type of sony for the best tv or how long for is that 55 inch??

Great video as always. How do you check the bitrate on the apple tv? How can i display that data written in yellow?

Question for Vincent: Did you notice any luminance issues during playback? Currently Dolby Vision playback over HDMI from the Apple TV and Chromecast on LG OLED televisions introduces some annoying luminance fluctuations mainly in dark scenes which destroys black levels. You can see it quite clearly in letterboxed movies by oserving how the black letterboxed changes between black to dark grey. It doesn't happen when using LG's built in Netflix app. One example is the Netflix show "Manhunter" episode 8 frem 8:40 and forward.

How do you enable playback information on the Apple TV?

Hi, I have a 500/500 Mbps ISP. Do you think the Apple TV will perform better on a faster connection?

Again, a very informative video. I very much appreciate you taking the time to make these kind of comparisons that videophiles want to. You cant find these kind of comparisons anywhere. Keep up the good work.

HDTV test, my mame is Cassiano from Brazil, the Apple tv iTunes moves the download films from HD Apple tv our streaming films?

could please compare with the new apple tv ? compression codec may have changed as well than player

how about 1080p content on a 1080p panel 65 in vs 4k on a 4k panel from 3 meters away? iside from side by side, seems 1080p could be sharp enough for most from a distance?

Well done and very important review! Thanks for your efforts on this channel!

How do you get the metadata to show on the apple TV 4k?

Can you notice the difference between 4K HDR10/Dolby Vision and upscale DVD to 1080p? I have a large DVD collection that I play back through ps3 console with hdmi on a 4K HDR TV but they are taking up too much space and I’m considering upgrading/converting to Apple TV and just renting higher resolution films.

Great comparison and very helpful

Is the Apple TV version is it being streamed via the Internet or is it saved on your Apple TV box.

Thanks Vincent very informative.

How do you get the playback info on the apple tv?

Not related to the Apple TV, but LG recently released their Technicolor color mode firmware for their 2017 Oleds, and I was wondering if you're planning on making a review of it? Love your content

I think the difference between Audio if you use a good AV receiver is massive between Digital and Disc format, but as Vincent has highlighted the image/video quality is much lesser a difference. You should have at-least 35Mb Internet speed. Adaptive streaming is brilliant and surprised streaming services such as Netflix do not do this yet.

Thanks for a great review Vincent! You confirmed what I was seeing with my comparison I did with my B6P. I will now only buy a disc if the movie is of iconic or reference quality.

Do you have a video showing how to calibrate a C7/B7 tv?

Hello there .!! Witch TV would you choose for 3000 euros? SONY KD55A1BAEP OLED , LOEWE bild 4.55 OLED , PANASONIC TX-55EZW954 OLED , LG 65B7D OLED , PHILIPS 55POS9002 ?? It will be used for Home Theater

Luminance fluctuation is still a problem. I just watched Wonder Woman on the Apple 4k TV (OS 11.1) on a LG B7 Oled and the luminance fluctuated dramatically several times when moving between day and night scenes.

What calibration set up you running?

I would like to know the HDR 4K quality difference between a Sony A8H built in android app and connecting a Apple TV4K to the same TV?

Great video! Could you or someone else tell me the name of the song that plays at the end?

Thanks for the comparison. Normal viewing distance you lose the resolution anyway - but it's relevant for those who sit close or have projectors. It would be interesting to see a comparison between a blu-ray and Apple's 4K HDR. 15mbit just isn't going to cut it. Hoping for offline versions

The bitrate that you talking about, is the data includes sound data as weel? Or just the video data? Because Dolby TrueHD has significantly higher bit rate than Dolby Atmos streamed by Apple 4K TV.

I have noticed that some movies have a different aspect ratio in iTunes vs Blu-Ray... why does this happen?

Do you know what looks better on transformers Netflix premium or a 4k ultra hd dvd

Have you ever reviewed a Nvidia Shield TV 4K? Or have you ever checked out plex? Would love to see you review that as it’s what I mainly use with my new LG 4K

Streaming is more convenient, but I really prefer the higher quality of the blu ray disks. Reason, I play extra for Netflix premium but the compression is so bad that I really don't notice a difference. Vs if I pop in a disk it's like night and day. Edit: obviously the difference is hard to notice if you're scrutinizing still frames. But when the image is actually in motion is when you notice more compression artifacts.

Very good comparison indeed, thanks. Have you also done a comparison between blue ray 4k xbox one s/x vs blue ray 4k player? I got suspicion xbox blu ray is not as good....

Would connecting the Apple 4k tv to the Oppo increase the picture/stream quality of the Apple Tv. Since th Oppo has the 2nd HDMI in, connecting the Apple tv and using the Oppo video processor, I'm thinking would improve the quality.

I would love to see a similar shootout between: SDR HD iTunes to SDR BLU Ray , SDR Blue vs DolbyVision iTunes , SDR BluRay to HDR BluRay aka BlackRay I am curious of the Mbps delivered to the panel and if that appears to affect the background texture as much or more than we saw between iTunes Dolby and HDR 4K BluRay. ...

Is there a Bitrate/quality difference between the Apple TV Box and the Apple TV App for TVs?

Can you do an updated version of this video? Thanksss

Can you also compare 4K HDR 10 films (not Dolby Vision) between the Oppo and Apple TV 4K? Are they more or less the same in picture quality as well?

Is there a difference between downloaded uhd movies vs bluray? Or are the same?

I love this guy

As always, very informative and entertaining.

Hi Vincent can you make a comparison of white vs black screen projector screen, Thanks

On my old apple tv box if the broadband wasn't fast enough all I have to do is pause for 10 minutes and the box buffers enough to play at best quality, does the new one not do this ? I mean why does it have 64 gigabytes of memory ?

That was hilarious at the end!

Anyone know what the song at the end is?

Why is my Sony XBRX930C showing a washed out colors on HDR Video, on my xbox X

Loved the ending, that was funny!

I have a ps pro. Is there anyway I could watch movies in 4k besides Netflix and Hulu.

You should do this test again. I have found that older more grainy films tend to look different than their UHD discs. For example “The Big Lebowski” looks quite a bit better on disc.

While the video from streaming may be negligible, the differences between streaming and blu-ray is very evident when comparing sound. The dynamic range when streaming is severely compromised.

What is the lg a1 u say at first ?

Are there night and day sound difference ?

Great and very detailed video. Thx

What’s the name of the song at the end?

I have a LG 55B7 and have severe lipsyncing issues with my sound when I feed it with Dolby Vision from Apple TV 4k. 😕 It gets acceptable if I go down to 4k HDR. Any tips on how to remedy this? Tried fiddling with the audiosync but can't get it anywhere near acceptable.

I do appreciate the comparisons! 👍. What I didn’t enjoy is the repeating the playback info and the unnecessary cursor movement. The blue ray as seen on my iPad wins for derail although the Apple TV had more info in the shadows of the face - lighter image

Is it possible to compare Sky 4K movies as well. Or compare Chromecast 4k ????.

I am wondering here and reading… I read that Apple upgrades every movie to 4k, so I am thinking that I should buy my movies on DVD and have the Apple 4k auto upgrade. Am I reading this wrong, is Apple upgrading to 4k or not? PS: just noticed that Vudu is upgrading everything you buy to 4k.

Lol at the beginning (LG A1!) but at 13:00 I was wondering how come both TVs suddently had their own stands. Only at the end it became clear why. Vincent you mentioned it several times but did not provide a number: what was that exact *normal viewing distance* you were watching these 65" 4K panels from? This is very important because for normal 20/20 vision, after just 2.58 meters we would *not* be able to resolve Full HD resolution pixels on a 65" panel, much less 4K pixels. To take advantage of 4K over Full HD on a 65" panel, we would need to sit closer than 2.58 meters (but not closer than 1.29 m in order to still not resolve 4K pixels.) Too close viewing distances are not always comfortable or practical, but what I mention above is the case because of how our eyes and visual acuity work. If a typical viewing distance for a 65" tv is large enough (> 2.6 m,) that actually works in favor of Apple TV. Precisely the extra detail offered by the UltraHD Bluray cannot be resolved by normal vision at those distances on these panels. (Of course, quite not so few people have better-than-normal 20/20 vision though.) HDR always remains impactful regardless of resolution, but viewing distance is critical with respect to resolution and detail, and it might render 4K effectively useless over Full HD (or UltraHD Bluray over Apple TV, for that matter.) Wrote about this on my personal blog quite a while ago, with further details: fluviolabenti.blogspot.de/2016/10/when-does-screen-have-too-much.html

Was it a bought Movie from itunes? What about the Audio Performance ?

Fantastic and informative video as usual Vincent! Question, does the bit rate include audio data as well? Or is it strictly video data?

What is a website to buy a TV at great prices?

Be interesting if you could compare using the Apple TV app via the tv directly or an Xbox etc as well

Hi Great videos! How do you get the stream information/bit rate etc, on the LG oled65e6?

Great comparison. I've heard (can't find the source so just spreading rumors) that Apple does it's own encoding for iTunes and AppleTV. If that's so, bit-rate isn't telling you the whole story. The quality of the encoder makes a difference too. A few years ago JPEGmini came out with a proprietary JPG encoder that created stock-standard JPG files with a higher perceptual quality at the same file size. The same can apply to video.

My question would be: How does the Apple TV 4K measure against Netflix? Does the bought movies from iTunes in 4K have better PQ? And by that I especially think of noise, because personally I cannot stand the amount of compression noise I get in the picture from Netflix, but I kind of want to avoid having to store all the movies I see. So for that reason I want to see if I can use the Apple TV 4K and buy the movies from iTunes instead.

In short, for most they look the same. The 384kbps bitrate for audio is a concern though. Although none of my friends I did blind audio tests with could tell the difference. ATV has even more film snow supporting increased audio bitrate too. Netflix and Amazon as well. My video torture test is the opening of Shutter Island when the boat comes out of the fog. Ultimately I prefer the on-demand nature of streaming and not having to create shelf space for discs. Also, so few discs in DV. Let's not forget ATV increases bitrate and resolution as time and tech moves forward. For free.

Very good video. I prefer Disc over streaming anytime. The difference between 4k streaming vs 4k Disc is MORE prominent when there is fast moving action scenes. The streaming loose detail and pixelates. While fast action remains clear on the 4k Disc. You should do segment compare that. Thx.

Excellent review very detailed covered everything.

Any chance you will make a similar video on Netflix 4K and Xbox Store 4K?

Do 12 bpc really matter in this case? I thought TVs could handle a maximum of 10 bpc.

This doesn't hold true anymore tho correct? Most new 4K UHDs come with Dolbly Vision?

Can you test the Roku Ultra?

Please compare these to Blu-ray (1080P) and HD/HDX streaming. The differences because of HDR should be more dramatic but it would be interesting.

That ending tho 😂

The big difference between the two is the audio. The ATV decodes the DD or DD+ track and passes it through. On a disc or a rip you will get the lossless audio track.