Dolby Vision Streaming vs HDR10 4K Blu-ray Disc Comparison

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We compare Disney Plus streaming in Dolby Vision vs 4K Blu-ray movies in HDR10. Thanks to Surfshark VPN for sponsoring this video... go to surfshark.deal... - Enter promo code HDTVTest for 83% off and 3 extra months free.
Two calibrated LG CX OLED TVs were used for this comparison, one displaying Disney+ in Dolby Vision; the other displaying 4K Blu-ray discs in HDR10 from an OPPO 203 player.
To avoid spoilers in case you haven't watched any of the 6 titles used in this comparison video, here are the timestamps:
1:05 - Avengers Assemble
2:53 - The Lion King (2019)
3:44 - Deadpool 2
4:13 - Thor: Ragnorak
6:02 - Rogue One
6:27 - Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Out of six movies we watched, only "The Empire Strikes Back" and to a lesser extent "Deadpool 2" did not obviously benefit from Dolby Vision dynamic metadata.
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@MisterPikol 3 года назад

"it is not often that I get to see 2 bushes within minutes of each other" That's some Disney writing right there

@traceyclarkewz4093 3 года назад

My G

@oliverroggenbuck7824 3 года назад

It´s completely underrated how Vincent is able to say this line and remain totally serious. Incredible timeless Stand up Comedy !

@sjsphotog 2 года назад

@@oliverroggenbuck7824 +1000 VT is the MASTER of the super subtle innuendos :)

@leontiefmodell650 Год назад

When he was talking about macro-blocking in the bush in the Avengers for the first time, I knew he couldn't refuse...he came saw and conquered that joke XD

@fxandrei 3 года назад

Its great that you got to check 2 bushes within a few minutes of each other.

@WDeranged 3 года назад

*ding*

@86rattlehead 3 года назад

Truth be told, one of them exhibited slighly more macrobushing due to the heavier compression.

@thatdrh 3 года назад

Always check the bushes before entering the woods “ding”

@myvid222 3 года назад

In adherence to woke culture you are hereby banned by the RU-vid thought police for furthering the objectification of women.

@thatdrh 3 года назад

@@myvid222 Women? We’re talking about shrubbery!

@Horos_de_Vega 3 года назад

In summary: shame on Disney for not releasing their BD UHD with Dolby Vision. Thanks Vincent once again for the great content!

@Oldschoolgamerdad 3 года назад

This 🙌

@SpawnViper4 3 года назад

Obviously the reason is because they want to generate Disney+ revenue. They need to stop playing and release full collections of DV enabled Marvel Phase Bundles (All extras included).

@shoopypit4884 3 года назад

@@SpawnViper4 and imax switching. At least for the last two avengers movies.

@RobertK1993 3 года назад

Dolby Vision can't make streaming look sane 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc

@robinanwaldt 3 года назад

Fun Fact: The only Disney 4K releases that have Dolby Vision are Black Panther and the first release of The Last Jedi.

@ogpirons 3 года назад

Still a disc man regardless. I prefer my entertainment to be physical.

@hdtvtest 3 года назад

We prefer everything to be physical, to be fair.

@ogpirons 3 года назад

@@hdtvtest Nowadays some are becoming OnlyFans of digital.

@dandana5263 3 года назад

Picture may be close but sound quality on disk destroys streaming.

@TJ.1 3 года назад

@@hdtvtest 😂😂😂👌🏼

@xxXGIXXXZERXxx 3 года назад

@@ogpirons 🤣

@michaeldietz2648 2 года назад

There is no comparison of 4K Blu-ray. A 4K Blu-ray will blow away any form of streaming, streaming comes in compressed video form a 4K Blu-ray is uncompressed this applies to sound as well, Believe me if you have the correct set up and you put on Dolby Atmos surroundsound from a 4K Blu-ray it is mine blowing compared to streaming.

@BigBlobProductions 3 года назад

I would love to see a comparison between Dolby Vision and HDR10+

@Zebra66 3 года назад

I find that regular 1080p Blu Ray often looks better than 4k streaming services. It usually has a higher bitrate (less compression). It's a mistake to think of the resolution as being a measure of quality. When you encode video, quality and res are two different settings. Quality is related to compression which is why 2k DCi theater files are more detailed than UHD Blu Ray. Higher res just means you can sit closer before seeing pixels.

@TheRealGara Год назад

I'm right there with you. I toss most 2160p webrips if I get my hands on the 1080p bluray. Audio is always the big winner, but visually the higher bitrate always seems to win out over the 2160p webrips hdr10 or DV.

@Spidey_Pool85 Год назад

@@TheRealGara I love collecting blu-ray and recently got Avengers Endgame. I planned on watching the disc, but the digital code redeemed in 4k HDR. My question is, should I watch the stream just for the HDR, or stick with the blu ray for better bitrate and audio?

@cjsnowdon Год назад

@@Spidey_Pool85 just enjoy the movie 👍

@davidbenning10 Год назад

@@cjsnowdon Good advice. It’s time that we stop watching the screen quality and pay attention to the actual movies.

@Gurminder_S Год назад

1080 Blu-ray are encoded using AVC and 4K streams are HEVC. HEVC is twice as efficient so a bitrates of 1080 discs are half of the equivalent 4k. In terms of streaming a 20mbps 4k streams is equivalent of a 40mbps 1080 disc. So bitrate wise both have the same mbps.

@RTINGSdotcom 3 года назад

Great video Vincent! Nice to see the results side-by-side. Though, we'd be happy with getting stuck with chicken instead of fish 😎.

@cjsnowdon 3 года назад

No veggie options?

@califagonian9839 3 года назад

Yeah, if the movies are any guide, we don't want both of our pilots eating the fish either. Unless we've got a washed up, depressed, Navy war veteran pilot with a drinking problem aboard.

@darkdraconis 3 года назад

@@cjsnowdon no, tons of meat only

@turfoid7899 3 года назад

Lol

@bullet759 3 года назад

@@darkdraconis eat yourself then

@aim9491 3 года назад

Sound is what is tipping the scale towards blu ray for me. There is just no comparison between lossless atmos/dolby true hd or dtshd master and lossy dolby digital plus

@bitchpls111 3 года назад

This.

@Oldschoolgamerdad 3 года назад

Agree the biggest difference compared to streaming is sound now. But that difference is huge with a good sound system. There is no chance in hell that the lack of dolby vision on some disc will make me stream the dolby vision version with the current sound limitations still there. It is sad that we can't have the best of both.

@kencanette 3 года назад

I have an old receiver I got at a thrift store but it can only do DTS and Dolby digital buying a brand new one would be a huge upgrade?

@buganvilstudio 3 года назад

@@kencanette get one with dolby atmos. (And speakers for that too). Hearing rain coming from the ceiling feels super immersive. At least very cool to have. But not necessarily a game changer. Maybe hear one at a local store if possible.

@aim9491 3 года назад

@@kencanette you don't need to get a brand new one. Lossless dolby and dts have been around for a long time. If its got hdmi it probably supports all you need. Just get a used receiver from like 2016. Unless you want it for gaming with a new console in which case you might want to get a new one with earc or buy a thenaudio sharc and an old one. But the sharc is 150bucks alone

@danlah1303 3 года назад

Can’t understand the logic of not offering 4K Blu-ray with Dolby Vision but making it available on the streaming version

@bighands69 3 года назад

It should really show you what their intent is. They do not want to do physical media which people will own and control. Instead they are going to do streaming which means they control the source. There is a reason why the childrens books by Dr Seuss are being destroyed.

@zelko0768 3 года назад

They want to hook the gullible to an inferior product

@bighands69 3 года назад

@Steven Lee Everybody going to streaming will cause the collapse of Disney.

@alexanderulv3886 3 года назад

Why can’t we just have more high quality streaming

@debsattam1 3 года назад

Blu ray movies always look better even if compared to Dolby vision it's the HDR that mess everything up .

@schwartzy65 3 года назад

i do think bluray discs should ALWAYS have the best possible tech like dolby vision... it is the premium way afterall.

@halfvader8015 3 года назад

@Umar Metcalf You mean UHD Blu? Because they do have it. Or do you mean regular old Blu, because that's redundant. The SD gamut makes it pointless.

@halfvader8015 3 года назад

@Umar Metcalf Cheers, but I'm still not sure whether you mean a 4k/UHD/HDR blu ray player, or an old regular Blu player.

@bighands69 3 года назад

If you have a good set up you are not going to notice the small difference between HDR10 and dolby vision.

@krazyfrog 3 года назад

@@bighands69 Did you even watch the video?

@JBR.1974 3 года назад

In truth physical media is slowly going the way of the dodo. So enjoy it whilst you can

@r9800pro 3 года назад

Disney should rot in hell for not including Dolby Vision on their physical 4K releases.

@DualReaver11 3 года назад

BASICALLY

@grantgoble1443 3 года назад

Have heard of double dipping? I'm sure in 5 years they'll start rereleasing them in "Dolby Cinema Edition " or some BS. Mark my words.

@richbleak3188 3 года назад

@@grantgoble1443 I hope you are right. I'm worried that they are just going to stop putting out UHD Bluray in favor of streaming. As sad as it is to say, we are probably 10 years away from that being ok from a picture quality standpoint, but most people just don't care that much about PQ, unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong.

@dandana5263 3 года назад

Disney is trash. Don't give em your money. That's the only way they will learn and respect their customers!

@grantgoble1443 3 года назад

@@dandana5263 Disney ain't the only studio that does this

@Rams3040 3 года назад

The picture quality of Disney+ is great,but somebody needs to tackle the picture quality of Amazon Prime which has decreased drastically in the past year. The 4K HDR picture on that streaming app looks like 240p full of macro-blocking,posterization,shifting pixels and bleeding colors. Maybe it looks okay in a small phone,but on a 65 inch TV and projector it looks atrocious.

@WarHog4ever 3 года назад

Agreed. I recently rented the newer Planet of the Apes trilogy on Prime in 4K and was shocked at how poor the quality was. My player is wired to fiber internet, so connection wasn't an issue.

@imhh11 3 года назад

totally agreed.. Amazon prime 4K is so bad compared to the other streaming services

@adumowumo 3 года назад

It could be related to COVID. A lot of streaming services apparently reduced the quality or something of their services. RU-vid and Amazon I’ve seen the biggest drop in quality on. The BIGGEST issue is NOW TV charging so much for their services and offering nothing above 1080p and even that isn’t supported on all devices, which is 2021 is an absolute disgrace.

@ПавелПовх-з3у 3 года назад

Thats a shame, amazon used to have best 1080p quality for movies, next only to blu-rays. POTA movies btw do not have native 4k even on blu ray, and on amazon prime I don't see ultrahd in their descrtiption, unlike grand tour or expanse. Amazon still gives best HDR out there providing hdr10+.

@artschiloyan9101 3 года назад

That's one of the reasons I couldn't really get into watching Prime. I really think Netflix and Disneyplus have a better picture quality.

@TeeCee247 3 года назад

When you expect the bush joke on the first and get surprised on the second

@edirol 3 года назад

By not offering DV Blu-rays it incentivizes, consumers to go with streaming services, for those that care about higher quality HDR. A future where we don't own anything and studios get guaranteed streaming revenue is what they want.

@jon4715 3 года назад

The Great Reset: Where "you'll own nothing and be happy."

@dantasticmania8728 3 года назад

They want full control and censorship that's why buying physical media matters cause it's to preserve the past to show it to future generations. Imagine a movie like Gone With The Wind ether being heavily altered/ censored or not shown at all became of sensitive assholes on Twitter ? Not a future I want to live in .

@ПавелПовх-з3у 3 года назад

Or, you can get yourself qled and there will be no need for such thing as dolby vision.

@bighands69 3 года назад

They are now in the middle of banning Dr Seuss because the animals look racist. And yet if the animals had no characteristics of race they would be complaining about it being racist. What we are witnessing is like a witch hunt in that there is no winning whatsoever.

@jon4715 3 года назад

@@dantasticmania8728 Shoot, that's exactly why. Truly 1984. No easier way to alter history than if everything is digital and on demand. Obama's presidential library is totally digital isn't it?

@TheLegend-qj7wh 2 года назад

4K UHD >>> Streaming. Always!

@r_bear 3 года назад

Dang, I'm a bit sad to hear that conclusion. That being said, is it possible that we can yell at Sony enough to get them to pay for DV licenses for the PS5?? I'd like my supported discs to work with DV, at least.

@shoopypit4884 3 года назад

Honestly, 4k bluray looks better on my sony 4k player than my ps5. Regardless of which hdr it is

@kachow5830 3 года назад

@@shoopypit4884 what model?

@shae1547 3 года назад

@@shoopypit4884 what model?

@shoopypit4884 3 года назад

@@shae1547 the x700. I've only had intermittent issues with one 4k blu ray out of dozens played.

@shae1547 3 года назад

@schneper I highly highly doubt it, Sony doesn't wanna pay Dolby licensing fees. They don't even want the PS5 to have Atmos. Don't keep your hopes up

@Onegaiprofessor Год назад

When Oppenheimer releases on streaming and blu ray which version will give me radiation poisoning during the explosion scene?

@ravf458 3 года назад

So despite the DV hdr on Disney Plus, the HDR10 and solid bitrate from the 4k disc is superior. Knew that already, just wanted to summarize😉

@AndyGilleand 3 года назад

I bet Mad Max Fury Road would have been a great example to test this out with

@thatcherfreeman 3 года назад

The 4k blu-ray for Fury Road kinda looks like ass though. They oversaturated all the reds and it looks super artificial.

@AndyGilleand 3 года назад

@@thatcherfreeman NO! You are so wrong. Fury Road is one of the rarest examples of fire actually looking the way it should in HDR. Another great example is Greatest Showman and Batman v Superman in the Knightmare scene. All too often does fire get blown out and washed out. Real fire is deep red and orange, and BRIGHT. Mad Max does it right.

@thatcherfreeman 3 года назад

@@AndyGilleand The Fury Road fire, specifically in the 4k bluray goes from a deep dark red to a washed out orange. The red parts are substantially more saturated than the rest of the scene and it's actually jarring how bad they look as they don't match the rest of the color grade at all. Plenty of the Amazon reviews of the disk agree with me and it seems like a clear mistake in the color grading process. I don't recall finding the reds offensive when I watched the movie in theaters and I have like every version of the movie on Blu-ray. The Fury Road UHD bluray version is a fluke in its poor quality, though the rest of the HDR treatment looks fine.

@AndyGilleand 3 года назад

@@thatcherfreeman A lot of people who don't understand what fire should actually look like agree with you. That's what fire actually looks like in real life. We're just all conditioned to seeing it blown out because of limited dynamic range, that this feels strange to see on screen. This is HDR actually doing what it was designed to do, and doing it really well. Theaters are not HDR.

@thatcherfreeman 3 года назад

@@AndyGilleand Movies have an artificial color grade in post, just like now the night scenes in Fury Road are blue instead of being a realistic night time color. As a result, the objective is for the fire to look plausible in the context of the rest of the color grade, not for the fire to be the only "realistic" looking element in a world that's unrealistically entirely orange and blue, if that means breaking the overall look of the color grade. In any case, most people probably found the reds in that release distracting and therefore found that this color grading choice distracted from the rest of the image. In my opinion, it made the flames look like a low quality vfx job that didn't match the backplate, and therefore reduced the believability of the image compared to the SDR releases.

@BeastieMK 3 года назад

The compression artifacts of the 1080p streaming era that we merely noticeable at the time, are really quite distracting today since "Viewing distance" (more likely viewing angle) has improved. My Blu-rays, on the other hand, have held up quite nicely. I suspect the same will be the case with "4K" streaming even is some 4K Blu-rays don't have Dolby Vision. Even at my current viewing angle, I find compression artifacts more distracting than some titles' lack of Dolby Vision.

@weaponx40 3 года назад

Dolby vision on 650 nit oled vs hdr10 on at 12/1300 nit Sony/Samsung would be a interesting next comparison !

@califagonian9839 3 года назад

Agreed!

@califagonian9839 3 года назад

And with HDR Optimizer for the Sony/Samsung

@hdmoviesource 3 года назад

It's disingenuous to compare Disney 4K discs because Disneys transfers are bad, most of these discs are 2KDI. Disney has incredibly low bit-rates on disc also. Anyone that knows anything about video quality never goes to Disney on 4K UH Discs. They go to Blue Underground, Sony and Warner Bros. Quality is everything to me and Disney simply doesn't have it.

@CarlMulder 3 года назад

@Steven Lee They're reviews, use your mind and your own eyes, what do you actually think? For me it's easy to see that Disney 4K UHD Disc titles are poor quality, and anyone into high-end video quality can see this.

@TWISTEDBULLET 3 года назад

@Steven Lee Nobody goes to Disney on 4K Discs for quality, they stink.

@hdmoviesource 3 года назад

@Steven Lee compare a Disney disc to a Blue Underground disc. I assure you the difference is huge. Disney are one of the worse at making 4k discs look good.

@DR-xm9ck 3 года назад

"it's not often I get to check out two bushes within minutes of each other" Vincent, you're killing me with these one liners.

@lgans316 3 года назад

These banding and blocking appear to a lesser extent on iTunes and MoviesAnywhere stream of these films which are encoded at higher bit rates 25-31 Mbps as opposed to D+ wherre 4K HDR bit rates hover between 16-28 Mbps.

@SpawnViper4 3 года назад

Yes this could be more future reviews. Its exciting to think of the Bravia Core possibilities.

@yviruss1 3 года назад

Interesting; although not surprising.

@tomd8168 3 года назад

I was wondering that too. Netflix has some interesting algorithms and compression coming out that could also change up this.

@AvatarFanUno 3 года назад

@@tomd8168 oh is there an article about upcoming changes? :o

@tomd8168 3 года назад

@@AvatarFanUno I think I had a brain fart when I wrote this.. I can't find the article I was reading but I may have gotten confused with their new way of measuring compression, based on this article on their tech blog. netflixtechblog.com/optimized-shot-based-encodes-now-streaming-4b9464204830 but they may be using it on more 4k content now.. if I stumble across what I was reading back then I'll post it! Sorry for the confusion.

@JesusMartinez-mk6fc 3 года назад

Very interesting comparison Vincent. However, when comparing Dolby Vision (DV) source material from streaming services versus DV 4K Blu-ray as you did over three years ago with your video on the DV Apple TV 4K versus the DV 4K Blu-ray test; the 4K Blu-ray came out on top. The differences may be slight depending on the specific capabiity of the TV a viewer owns but they are visually noticeable nonetheless.

@lolerie 3 года назад

Apple TV DV decoder is shite.

@cesarbarroso7225 3 года назад

Conclusion: the best version of Disney movies are only available to them in the studios. Mediocre versions only available to the consumer.

@unsungwindham 3 года назад

This has been a question I've been looking for answers to for a very long time. Thanks

@schwartzy65 3 года назад

i dont care about streaming quality since i love collecting films on my own collection... physical media on your hands is just so much better imo plus extras and nice releases like steelbooks etc :)

@bighands69 3 года назад

That is all fine and dandy until special officers come around to your home and seize the material that is deemed dangerous because it is supposed to be racist.

@yviruss1 3 года назад

@bingobaz6402 3 года назад

@@bighands69 like that's going to happen 🤣😂

@bingobaz6402 3 года назад

Same. I never stream anything. Not usually but got an android TV a few, days ago. Going to check out these movies on Disney plus. Can't seem to get dolby vision from disc's for some reason. Only apps as I got it on the apple app. Which was crap as not many movies seem to be on there. Sounds like Disney plus is the place to go to experience dolby vision, if you can't get it to work on the uhd.

@schwartzy65 3 года назад

@@bingobaz6402 does your player support dolby vision? And not all bluray have that for some reason. But what i have seen the diffrence isnt really big at all imo and i can live without it easily

@warreng5257 3 года назад

Dolby Vision is just that much better than HDR10. It's still shocking some manufacturers don't add Dolby Vision to their TVs

@dr.anthonyforgione4253 3 года назад

Not on Lion King. See at 3:25: Dolby Vision strangely green, and faded contrast; while the HDR 10 Blu-Ray preserves the reds and blues, and renders better contrast.

@halfvader8015 3 года назад

Not necessarily. Moreso for cheaper sets though.

@ПавелПовх-з3у 3 года назад

HDR10+ is basically same as dolby vision, its a shame some copmanies do not utilise it.

@Dave-zk4fv 3 года назад

With DV a royalty has to be paid for being compatible with for e.g. a TV. Also mastering studios have to be authorised to use and master in DV whereas HDR is open source and anyone can use it. That’s why some are kicking off about the PS5 not having DV, Sony would have to pay Dolby for (I think) each console sold.

@ewcho8995 3 года назад

@@dr.anthonyforgione4253 Well we shouldn't judge hdr from a video, but regardless, the lion looks far more natural in dolby vision. HDR10 makes the lion look red

@daraghmorrissey 3 года назад

Great video Vincent. I was surprised by the conclusion but agree with you 100%. I just love the convenience of streaming. I built up an expensive library of DVDs when that format came out and as I travelled and moved houses, it was a pain to ship. I bought a Sony X900H a few months ago and the built in apps are just great at displaying content in Dolby Vision. Formula 1: Drive to Survive has some amazing shots in Dolby Vision for example. Where Blu Rays might have a slight advantage is audio (with other audio formats supported) - but more and more streaming is being delivered with Dolby Atmos. I must calibrate my TV - still using the out of the box settings.

@adriannn3720 2 года назад

4K Blu-Rays are drastically better with movies shot on film that have digital noise, as the lower bitrate on the stream causes loss of detail in grain scenes. And if you find streaming more convenient, you can always just rip your discs to a hardrive, and then put the disc in your garage or something. Works the same, but you are getting superior quality.

@itsyaboytho 2 года назад

Atmos audio bitrates on streaming services tend to be around the 768Kbps. This is lossy compression - meaning loss of quality versus the studio master. Discs that include Atmos tracks are the lossless version with no loss of quality versus the studio master. The bitrates tend to be in the 3000+ (I regularly see discs with 7000+ Kbps atmos tracks) Kbps range. This difference is hugely noticeable with the proper audio equipment to play and hear such things. The audio experience of a good quality audio track makes just as much difference as beautiful imagery and colors. Unfortunately, it tends to be the biggest afterthought to most consumers when it comes to home media.

@BrieoRobino 2 года назад

@@adriannn3720 unless you're standing 5 in from your TV and a constantly pausing looking for artifacts, you're probably not going to notice a difference. Not worth the hassle in my opinion.

@TundraBoy69 2 года назад

@@adriannn3720 I don't think ripping discs to a hardrive is convenient though

@ferrari77773 3 года назад

Overall, Dobly vision streaming and Dobly digital plus audio gives HDR10 4K bluray more than a run for its money, but I still slightly lean more to HDR 4K bluray because of the superior audio.

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

Basically gimping the disc by design

@istudy9 2 года назад

How is audio better though?

@ferrari77773 2 года назад

@@istudy9 streaming audio is compressed, less info. Bluray audio is uncompressed, more info.

@x-techgaming 2 года назад

What audio hardware and speakers/headphones do you have?

@metalliholic 2 года назад

@@x-techgaming the tv built in speaker 😂

@DrVagax Год назад

I am on the edge of buying a S95B 65" but missing out on Dolby Vision feels like a big loss, but seeing the comparisons the differences don't seem to be that bad, in your other video there is also barely any difference in Dolby Vision gaming vs HDR10. Guess Dolby's marketing did a good job because I did had the feeling I would be missing out on a ton of difference!

@SagaciousFrank 11 месяцев назад

Get the LG G3 instead. The Sony A95L would be nice, but about £1.2K dearer.

@echinas0908 11 месяцев назад

The worse the tv, the bigger the differences. Vincent and others have showcased that with modern TVs and recent content the difference is negligible.

@Brickhouse917 10 месяцев назад

The S95B is insanely good. Dolby Vision is great, but you're not missing out by getting HDR10 and HDR10+ is also coming. Dolby Vision, IMO, is overhyped.

@alambe7275 2 года назад

I didn’t even have to watch this video to know that compress streaming movies are not better than watching the hard disk movies ever

@transfo47 2 года назад

Dolby Vision streaming is better than HDR10 BD. If both have DV, obviously go for the DV BD.

@michaelhutter2160 3 года назад

Still prefer disc over steam and Disney weird as most 4K discs with exception of Disney are in Dolby vision so disc superior

@nadavge 2 года назад

Great review. There is one detail that I find rather noticeable which didn't receive attention. When looking at a single frame in the HDR10 footage when there are moving objects on the right TV, there is very noticeable ghosting. This can be seen in multiple scenes, but is present ONLY in the HDR10 content. Examples: 9:34 - when Capn is walking 9:42 - when the Hulk (human form) is turning around 9:45 - when hulk is changing This is a very big difference in my opinion giving a huge advantage to Dolby vision on anything containing even medium level of movement. Is that because of the codecs or the screen settings?

@robertct06 2 года назад

I get the feeling it’s the camera. I don’t think Vincent would’ve over looked it but you never know

@nadavge 2 года назад

@@robertct06 Given the TVs are supposed to be configured the same way this sounds unlikely

@matisms 2 года назад

a big motion gap there

@issaciams 5 месяцев назад

Dude this was the most obvious difference to me so something is off here. I don't understand why the Blu ray side would be showing all that ghosting. LG CX doesn't have ghosting issues like that so I'm very confused. Gotta e a capturing issue.

@brantlisk786 3 года назад

2 bushes!!! 😂😂😂 love it!!

@mbins123 3 года назад

worship the bitrates ! :)

@ParadoxalDream 3 года назад

Great content! I had been wondering the same question for months about streaming HDR vs Blu-rays. I wonder if you would get the same results (on average) when comparing other streaming services, such as HBO Max or Paramount+.

@leapingtortoise 3 года назад

This is why Disney is the worst. They have the dolby vision version but don't put it on the discs? I get the idea of 'we want people to stream' but all you're doing is pissing off the people who care about quality in favour of people who don't. Oh well, I guess we're not a big enough group.

@leapingtortoise 3 года назад

Well, to be fair, the whole 'Disney is Pro slavery' thing in China is what makes them the worst, but this is also bad. What a rubbish company.

@truecauseofchaos 9 месяцев назад

Great video! I do feel that audio is 50% of a movie experience and I've always felt that Blu-ray always has more "punch" than their streamed counterparts. Even DVDs seem to have a better kick than their streamed versions (older content).

@deadturret4049 8 месяцев назад

Yep. And youre not imagining it either. Audio is the first thing to take a hit because such a huge chunk of a movie's file size is audio. With streaming, you're trading audio for visuals so that you can actually stream it.

@issaciams 5 месяцев назад

Yes Blu ray audio is way better than streaming audio and its not even close so that automatically makes 4k hdr10 blu ray the winner for me since streaming audio is a lot more compressed.

@Achy_78 3 года назад

Keep the Bushes short for better contrast and viewing angles 👍

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 года назад

Better smell too.....

@Apeshower 10 дней назад

Better pinks too.

@thepeddle 3 года назад

My biggest takeaway from this.....unless viewed side by side.....Both will look fantastic......

@Mopantsu 3 года назад

Hardcore fans want to get as close to the directors intent as possible. But for your average viewer it's a non issue. But choice is always king and here we are being let down.

@Kerrogann 3 года назад

I hate that Disney is forcing the choice between color accuracy with posterization and compression artifact, and less accurate colors with a sharp image. I'll never understand their "it's too difficult to put it on blu-ray" excuse for not putting Dolby Vision on discs.

@AndyGilleand 3 года назад

Before watching this, my experience is: Better detail and sound quality on disc, but if streaming has DV, the DV version tends to have a better overall look to its HDR presentation.

@RobertK1993 3 года назад

Still inferior to high bit rate 4K Ultra HD Blu ray Dolby Vision HDR in streaming looks dim compared 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc

@AndyGilleand 3 года назад

@@RobertK1993 That's a problem with your TV. The disc has the same color information, just more detail due to less compression. Same brightness, same highlights, shadows, and color, just lower bitrate.

@apfelschorle1988 2 года назад

The audio is a bigger problem for me. I just hope the streaming Bitrate will improve over the years.

@AndyGilleand 2 года назад

@@apfelschorle1988 In terms of how much compression is applied compared to disc, audio and video have a similar degradation in noticeable quality. The problem with streaming audio is the codecs that many streaming apps and devices require are very outdated, have maximum bitrates, and don't allow for lossless audio. We will need some pretty major changes to support that, while improving video bitrate can happen today.

@kibyras 2 года назад

I don’t really care about the picture quality it’s not a big deal the big deal is sound. And when I watch Disney+ the sound quality is not as good as on the Blu-ray disc you have to listen to it very loud,. Any sound comparison?

@eaz54 3 года назад

I was wondering why he kept calling the first Avengers movie "Avengers Assemble" until I saw his movie box. Interesting that they named the first that way overseas while in the second Avengers movie the director wouldn't even let Chris Evans finish that line at the end of the movie so they could preserve the moment for Avengers Endgame.

@marlowe1537 3 года назад

@@GarethColquhoun Though certainly not as well known as in the UK, The Avengers TV show (well, only the Diana Rigg era; Honor Blackman was unknown in the US when Goldfinger was released) was pretty popular in the US as well--I remember watching it in prime time as a kid. And the show (which ran in the UK from 1961-69) didn't predate the comic by much, Avengers #1 was dated September 1963.

@califagonian9839 3 года назад

Yeah, I had to go straight to google. Then took a break for dinner. Thank God I ran across this reply before I spent even more time looking for a film... that I thought I had somehow missed... which looked eerily similar to one I had already seen several times.

@fastenedcarrot9570 Год назад

The colours just look off on the streaming to me and in nearly every case the HDR10 BR looks better. Lion King being the most prominent example.

@BlindeEzel 3 года назад

Thank you for the comparison. Apart from the picture quality, one is never sure that a movie will remain in the catalogue of a streaming-service. So for movies and shows like GoT, LoTR... I buy the UHD discs anyway.

@albertreichenbach1558 2 года назад

Well, streaming movies requires a satellite connection and compression. With Russia building up troops on their border and China threatening Taiwan, the first thing to go will be the satellites to cripple any response from us. With UHD discs, you have a 4K back up until satellites are restored. Now if they knock out our power grid also, we won't be watching anything...

@biaccoo 2 года назад

Two terrible examples there. Hbo owns got so it will never leave. Amazon owns lotr so it’ll never leave. Disney owns marvel and Star Wars so it will never leave

@BlindeEzel 2 года назад

Where I live HBO is not even available directly.

@YavNe 2 года назад

Dolby Vision streaming is looking like LG OLEDs with its overly ugly green whereas HDR10 on 4K Blu-ray is looking like Sony with its vivid and accurate colors. I'm well aware both are LG TVs but I'm just saying how the 2 TVs looking like depending on the content...

@naderzein2435 3 года назад

Great video. I'd be interested to see the same comparison but with other studios then Disney as they are known to not have great transfers on 4k blu-ray in general. Rogue One is probably the most useful comparison here, that's an awesome disc.

@danybackstone 2 года назад

Grain, grain, grain, details, then colors. Something you can achieve with a 80Mbps+ Bluray. Fk DNR !

@cjsnowdon 3 года назад

Sometimes you've just got to enjoy content The brilliance in detail in this review is undeniable, and I don't doubt a word of it, and from someone who loves tech, Vincent truly is the best around at critiquing (keep up the amazing work btw, I can't believe a major TV brand isn't chasing you for a techie roll) But if you enjoy the movie or show, the mere details of the disc, stream, DV or HDR10 codec won't be (and shouldn't be) worrying you. The fact is, what is being talked about here has got nothing to do with the experience. It's purely something video enthusiasts ponder over (and disagree over from time to time). What I like about Vincent is he's very fair and very balanced on this. You will notice this video is not trying to say one is bad, one is great. This is about the science and art of calibration. If you do worry about this, you'll always be worried theres a better experience out there. Thats true for over 99.99 % plus of the world, so you likely can't win that conundrum

@maxweinbach3996 Год назад

Truth

@sadjoedoejohn6083 2 года назад

What will it be when it comes down to a HDR10 and a Dolby Vision 4K Blu-Ray Disc of the same film?

@EvoCarl 3 года назад

Would be interesting to compare both these to the Apple TV /iTunes versions.

@Dave-zk4fv 3 года назад

Defo as I have heard Disney+ streams at 1440p whereas Apple/iTunes does it at 2160p

@lolerie 3 года назад

Apple 4k has rised blacks in DV.

@PeterBParker2398 Год назад

“Dolby Vision is like first class and HDR10 is like sitting in economy all the way in the back” 😂😂😂😂 Most regular people would not notice any difference unless the TVs were side by side and were specifically looking to spot any minor differences Really hoping people don’t take this guy too seriously (doubtful) Also why not do an HDR10 streaming vs Dolby V streaming? Or Dolby V vs HDR10+?

@davidbenning10 Год назад

Yeah, HDR10 and Dolby Vision aren’t that far apart in quality. On a disc, HDR10 will probably look better than Dolby Vision streaming.

@davidbenning10 Год назад

I’d be perfectly happy with HDR10 😊

@leonardo.martins 3 года назад

Make a comparision between iTunes and UHDBD, please.

@gianluigiiannace3143 3 месяца назад

Vincent, greatest reviewer on Yt. Imho. Cheers from italy

@matrixz6 3 года назад

Please make a video on Player led Dolby Vision vs HDR 10. Thanks!!

@allthingshollywood2620 2 года назад

I still think movie studios should have just stuck with 1080p Blu-rays and increased bitrate to 100mbps to 150mbps for the video to match what movie theaters get with their digital packages.

@dOoMnX 3 года назад

It looks like Dolby Vision has a greenish tint in all movies. Also saw this in the avsforum where a guy corrected it by uploading a unity 3DLUT. Any info on this Vincent?

@Mopantsu 3 года назад

It may be a mastering issue. I also noticed that some DV content can look a tad washed out compared to HDR. Either that or HDR having a set range throughout the entire movie causes contrast issues that create the perception of oversaturation.

@debsattam1 3 года назад

Blu ray is atleast 30 times better compared to any online streaming service it's just the HDR is a gimmick and ruin the picture than to improve it I turn it off and no online streaming content comes any close to it .

@AAFJohnBanks 3 года назад

Nice video Vincent! I would like see such a comparison using the UB9000 and how the HDR Optimizer improves the HDR10 picture.

@baycchief3785 2 года назад

Unless you have a LOT of WAX deep in the ear then go with Dolby Vision streaming lol

@tygeezy 3 года назад

I’ve been asking about this video forever! So many blu rays only get hdr10 while streaming gets Dolby vision.

@TheMrawesomest 3 года назад

It is a bit frustrating how many different options are out there for the same title. You have to hunt down the best presentation between physical media and streaming services. Between HD, 4K, UHD, and HDR.

@LazyCrazyGuy 3 года назад

@@TheMrawesomest there is no hunting. Physical media will always win no matter what.

@ewcho8995 3 года назад

@@LazyCrazyGuy clearly not for those movies. getting a HDR10 blu ray is not worth it if it's available in dolby vision on a streaming service

@APOWER385 3 года назад

@@ewcho8995 Look close again also he said it's superior even when you have 1gbit. Bitrate on blue ray too high

@LazyCrazyGuy 3 года назад

@@ewcho8995 streaming movies cost $30 -$40 4K Blu Ray movies go on sale for $12 or less . Along with superior bit rate and the best part that streaming just can't compete with is bit rate for Dolby Atmos. It is a night and day difference on my sound system. Streaming doesn't even come close. It's a muddied mess at best. Physical Media will always win for me.

@alter-ego- 3 года назад

It's mind-blowing how far we have come.. remember the time when Blu-ray came out? Thought it would take 2 decades before an average person can enjoy such lucxury.. Now look at us, steaming gigabytes of data every day like it's no big deal 🐵

@Mike71712 3 года назад

Got to check 2 bushes within a few minutes of each other!! 🤣🤣😂 LMFAOOO!! You the man!! 😜

@wuuduu609 2 года назад

internet data are always somehow compressed, local data are not

@King_Flush 10 месяцев назад

"I'ts not often I get to check out two bushes within a few minutes to each other" Epic, just epic.

@Ryzza5 Год назад

Next question is PS5 Bluray player or standalone?

@stephenpatterson8056 3 года назад

Would love to see this comparison but on displays with higher peak brightness. As he said, I think if this same comparison were being performed on displays with 1,000 nit+ peak brightness that there would be little to no difference between the two formats

@warreng5257 3 года назад

Which displays have 1,000+ nits and Dolby Vision?

@stephenpatterson8056 3 года назад

@@warreng5257 Umm, Sony LCDs, Vizio LCDs....

@califagonian9839 3 года назад

Or compare a quality OLED to a Samsung QLED like a 90R... or... ideally... a Neo QLED once he has access to one. This would be real world, right? Many consider the lack of DV on the Samsungs to be a deal killer. But is it really a problem with most movies?

@warreng5257 3 года назад

@@stephenpatterson8056 I guess my mind was thinking more about OLED tvs

@warreng5257 3 года назад

@@califagonian9839 I think there's a comparison for this already if you check deep into HDTVtest previous videos

@davidcarlton2513 2 года назад

I would rather watch a lower quality movie than pay for disney+ 🤷‍♂️

@leejones8067 3 года назад

Great tech fuelled video as always Vincent. In my experience Disney+ isn't the best streaming service for image quality, I believe a comparison with Apple movies would produce different results.

@milanklco 2 года назад

I watched on apple tv + yesterday Suicide Squad 2 in Dolby Vision ; wow wow wow; not a second I thought Blu ray could do better and I sit 6" from 65" Sony A80J new oled 2021 model, it's epic. Honestly recommend everybody to check it in Dolby Vision 🙂😉

@transfo47 2 года назад

@@milanklco Meh. I liked the first one better.

@milanklco 2 года назад

@@transfo47 I am on the same boat with you regarding story line 😃😁 but I ment Dolby Vision HDR quality and picture, it's in 2nd part stunning 😋🙂

@paolosoddu9642 2 года назад

I hate Dolby Vision in Netflix on my Sony x85j, can't i just disable it?

@invisiblekid99 3 года назад

Just the casualness of the innuendos is perfect!

@professorlean3733 3 года назад

Yeah I love his use of subtle humour 😂

@flaw3dgenius222 2 года назад

The posturization is horrible on streaming sites takee you out of the immersion

@THKJamesMaxx 3 года назад

Wow, thanks for answering the question on a video! I didn't expect a whole video for the answer!

@hazchem1 2 года назад

What always seems to get missed in these comparison videos is the sound quality in streaming vs disc. It's a pity the way is market is going these days, thanks to 90%+ of consumers. Most people sit and stream movies on TVs that are connected to crappy soundbars and if the picture was 25-30% worse in quality, they'd never know. The only thing they hear is buzz words and the thrill of parting with their cash for the latest technology. They have no idea what a decent picture and sound actually is, but part with their cash all the same. A by-product of which is how studios don't spend as much money producing music anymore. People who invest in good quality equipment and people who watch and listen on garbage are in two different worlds. It's the former of the two that unfortunately suffer.

@iordaniskaravasilis 3 года назад

I will watch because I like this comparison additionally the VILLAMAN did a comparison with Dolby vision versus HDR 10 that was really good as well.

@JorisKeijser 3 года назад

Thank you for telling us that you will watch this because you like it I guess? Lol

@midevil1980 2 года назад

Now let's talk about the difference in audio quality... 😉

@transfo47 2 года назад

Imperceptible to the vast majority of people on the vast majority of setups.

@midevil1980 2 года назад

@@transfo47 Absolutely false

@canderson7776 3 года назад

Damn I didn't know Disney is locking a lot of their movies with DV behind Disney+. Really unfortunate cause I value DV a lot, if this continues I might have to get Disney+.

@bighands69 3 года назад

Disney plus is going to be the end of entertainment as we know it. it will mean that many films and tv shows that are not politically correct will be destroyed.

@ShadowLancer128 3 года назад

Or you could not buy Disney + because you're not happy with their products and services.

@wrm591 3 года назад

That's what they want you to do

@ScottFitton 3 года назад

Dolby Vision is great if you have a TV that can't handle proper HDR. HDR really shouldn't be used on anything lower than 1000 nits, so really it's just doing a great job and picking up the slack.

@seanwilson9502 3 года назад

Curry's in UK have the Sony A90J.... can' wait for HDTVTest to get his hands on it

@hankytorious 3 года назад

How about HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision.

@Optimus-Prime-Rib 3 года назад

That “bush” joke! 🤣

@edwinrijos6679 Год назад

Is this after using the HDR optimizer on the Panasonic ub420.? Or without using the feature

@we8463 3 года назад

“It is not often I get to check two bushes with in a few minutes of each other” 😅🤣😂 I love your humor great video! For me uncompressed sound makes UHD 4K Blu-ray king of the hills!

@MicEffect 3 года назад

Love my 900H for Dolby Vision. I'm OK with DV 60fps vs 4K 120fps on my XBOX Series X. The new update has been great and the screen is even brighter with the latest rollout!

@adleneboulebtateche156 3 года назад

The best comparisons are those made side by side. Thank you Vincent.

@RXP91 2 года назад

The low light scenes in the lower bitrate Disney Plus did exhibit more dithering which introduces a green noise pattern on the c1 and upsets the colour intent though. Really was obvious on the comparison. Shame we can't just get access to high bitrate streaming services for a premium. And now that IMAX scope is a thing they've even started gimping the 3D Blu-rays with scope versions like Shang Chi. 3D Marvel Blu-rays were always 16:9/IMAX prior.

@MrZhilas 2 года назад

Came across this comparison video while researching 4K Blu-Ray players. Its a really good video. I like in how much detail you go comparing streaming services and a physical players. I do appreciate how much work you put in to make video like this. If Disney + had all the films I like, I wouldn't even think about getting a 4K player. Unfortunately I am not a big fan of Marvel movies and movies like Hobbit, Martian, Mad Max, Sicario, Blade Runner, etc. is not available on Disney +. Getting several monthly subscriptions (Amazon, Disney, Netflix) just so you could enjoy your favorite movies will eventually cost you more than a physical 4K Blu Ray disc. And it is so nice to have those movies right there on the shelve.

@bennyvermeulen7255 7 месяцев назад

Totally agree. When I’m in the mood for some particular movie, most of them I can pick right of my shelves.Movies I sometimes don’t find on streaming. And I’m not intending to get more streaming services, just to watch a movie. If I see 1 movie during a week it’s much. So streaming is for me expensive. A video store was the better option for me. I had periods for some months that i din’t watch Netflix at all. So I canceled it.

@beatsdtx06 Год назад

Bluray is better in my opinion

@kroks06 3 года назад

Ranking: Blu-ray Dolby Vision Streaming Dolby Vision Blu-ray HDR10 Streaming HDR10

@methlokaijufan9729 3 года назад

Panasonic DP UB420 bluray player connected to a Philips 43M6 monitor and every time I'm watching something in HDR mode the colors are dull ,washed out almost desaturated . Nothing like in your video . I really don't understand why .

@latinochico 3 года назад

The problem is your Phillips monitor

@diamonds972 3 года назад

Amazing how good online streaming actually is those days, native disc is still better, but not by much.

@Diode5 3 года назад

Just like MP3 was never as good as CD audio, it's good enough that disc media pretty much is dead. Not to mention most people don't own a TV that's capable of showing off a good 4k Blu-Ray. Streaming seems to be good enough quality for most displays, with compression techniques getting better every few years, and easily upgradable in the client software.

@TheInfiniteDraw 3 года назад

It depends on how sensitive you are to streaming compression artifacts. They're unbearable on certain shows or movies, even with fast connections.

@EM-ks5my 3 года назад

Teoh is shilling too much for Disney. Netflix has better bit rate and their movies have less artifacts like posteriazation and blocking.. Disney is just subpar.

@scopeofjustice 3 года назад

@@EM-ks5my This is why I'm really excited for Sony's Bravia Core service with PURE-STREAM which is supposed to be able to hit 80Mbps. I'm definitely looking to pick up an A90J when they release.

@robertt9342 3 года назад

4K Blu-Ray is more about control than quality.

@PhotoJohn80 2 года назад

One of the major issues with this comparison is that a lot of these films aren’t native 4K movies. They are upscaled to 4K. My point here is that you may or may not see more detail in a true 4K filmed disc vs the same thing streaming. With lower bit rate on streaming you would loose detail even if it is a true 4K film. I could be completely wrong but I’d love the comparison of say The Revenant, which is a True 4K film and not upscaled or downscaled and then upscaled again. I can’t stand these companies saying stuff is 4K when it wasn’t even filmed in 4K and upscaling it is ok to say it’s 4K. Grinds my gears 😂

@wendriftwood1952 3 года назад

Would be great if Dolby Vision dynamic metadata can be somehow "ripped/extracted" and then "side-loaded" to the corresponding HDR10 title.

@blueversace4447 3 года назад

Oh snap lol, that’d be awesome

@pb24dagrk 3 года назад

What about Player-Led Dolby Vision vs HDR10 with DTM?

@IV-A 3 года назад

What about the panasonic hdr optimiser? Would like to see a similar comparison with that.

@skewlkid521 3 года назад

Afaik the HDR optimizer is still static tonemapping, and, in either case, the optimal setting for OLEDs and high-nit LCDs only tonemaps down to 1000 nits. So DV is still advantageous because it tonemaps dynamically and all the way down to the peak luminance of the display, meaning APL should still be higher in DV for the scenes Vincent mentioned.

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 года назад

That won't change the results of this video. Panasonic players bring out more detail for HDR10 content. The HDR Optimizer feature doesn't work for Dolby Vision. Physical discs still have better sound and higher bit rates.

@CodeMonkeX 3 года назад

This is kind of annoying. First I was debating if it's worth replacing some of my Blu-Ray movies with 4K versions. I had convinced myself that it was worth it for the "best possible" picture quality. Now they are releasing Dolby Vision versions on streaming (which I personally think look better) but have more compression. So it seems like we always have to make a compromise somewhere. If I pay $25+ for a 4K disc I want the best version of the movie I can get. They will probably try and do another cash grab and re-release all these movies again "remasters" in Dolby Vision 4K at some point.