Aquaponics System Cycling | Lock Down is Here & Dealing with Ammonia Spike, Falling pH

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G'Day Folks. Here's a bit of a catchup on where the cycling of the aquaponics system has got to.
Would love to get some 🐟 in there soon but that all depends on what happens with the new laws being enacted.🤔😕
Hope you enjoy this quick update & your gardens are booming.
Cheers all. 🐟 🌱🍅
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@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Don't forget to click the subscribe button if you enjoyed the video & want to see how the system progresses. bit.ly/Subscribe2Rob Will have a few gardening clips up later on this week/weekend. Cheers all & have a top one.🐟 🌱🍅 Rob😊

@organiccleanfoodconnection 4 года назад

Rob Bob's Aquaponics & Backyard Farm thanks for that video lots of great information. I did a shout out video maybe you have already seen it on my channel. The Romain was growing good but as the third set of leaves are coming in they are really wrinkly. And then the bigger leaves are starting to curl the edges a slight bit of yellowing. I have not added anything to the tank people talk about crushed coral or vitamins. Or do I need to add more goldfish? Thanks locked down in USA

@asifbhoy8347 4 года назад

Is there anyway my comment can get your attention? Requested you for your help in my previous comment 🙁 If don't want to give reply just let me only one time. Sorry to bother you.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

@@organiccleanfoodconnection I haven't seen the clip sorry. Been flat out trying to keep up with everyone's questions at the moment due to lock downs around the world. 😉 I think you'll need to add more fish in there to get a decent amount of nutrients. The big commercial guys work on approximately 30-60g or 2-4oz of feed per 1m²/yard² worth of greens. Might be a bit hard to grow at that level in your small systems but it will give you something to play with. 👍 I wouldn't worry about removing the filters either as a load of bacteria will be in the media in the beds + in the gravel in the tanks. Hope that helps you out a bit. Cheers mate

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

@@asifbhoy8347 At the moment I'm getting smashed with folks wanting help so you're all just going to have to wait sorry. I try to get to them all but cant guarantee it will be in a timely fashion.

@organiccleanfoodconnection 4 года назад

Rob Bob's Aquaponics & Backyard Farm Here’s the video if you get time thank you so much! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PF_pKc6JfwA.html

@johnw9141 4 года назад

Thanks for being open about making mistakes, it helps us all learn and speaks volumes for your integrity. Keep up the good work.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Best way to learn is through mistakes. I know I'd prefer to learn through others so don't mind sharing where I can if it will help. Chewers & happy growing.

@theSam91 4 года назад

This is really interesting, all the issues you showed are almost exactly the same problems that happened to my new chop and flip: the charlie carp, the ammonia, the ph swings, right down to the broken test tube, even the damage on your parsley looked identical to my plants! By the way, I added 1.5 teaspoons of calcium carbonate to my system and the previously dormant lettuce burst into life, glad it was something simple. Great videos keep it up!

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I popped the rest of the Charlie carp in after I finished the clip & got another spike Sam. Not as much as the first time but it was enough to bump up the nitrite as well. Should have settled down by now I hope & will get back to adding the newer bottle. Hope your system is doing well. Cheers.

@thirstyrabbittanks2u191 4 года назад

G’day Rob oh what a good fix mate we all stuff up from time to time

@thirstyrabbittanks2u191 4 года назад

Wow I’m glad I’ve never seen that Ammonia level in the fish tanks good fix mate

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Having ammonia levels that high could have been a bit touch & go if It was from the first dose I added in. Luckily it had been cycling for a few weeks so the bacteria managed to get the job done. Will definitely be more careful next time. 😉 Cheers & have a top one.

@Javinkay 4 года назад

Another great video thanks for sharing

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Thanks Javinkay. Have a top one. 👍

@arhodes2866 4 года назад

Always enjoy watching your videos. Thank you. Stay safe

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Thanks & same to you. 😁👍👍

@lisarobinson9671 4 года назад

G-day Rob, glad to see you and hear Bianca and your mum and dad are well, I am still getting used to your down sized system it just doesn't seem right lol, thanks for the video it is very good as usual, wow broken tubes bummer, well stay well and keep up the good work and keep the videos coming it helps with being in lock down. God bless

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hi Lisa & thanks. Hope you & yours are doing OK at the moment. We have some fish in there now & hope to post an update on the system this weekend all going well. 👍 Cheers & all the best to you all.

@BradGryphonn 4 года назад

I was reading the intro about you wanting to go fishing and had a Twilight Zone moment. Just yesterday I was talking to a mate and he wanted to go fishing. Yesterday he would have been able to. But today, no. Because fishing is not considered 'exercise' by the Govt. We live in strange new times. That's in Queensland.

@craigparry5648 4 года назад

Was meant to go for a cast yesterday, same thing here in Victoria, fishing not considered an exercise, as well as prospecting? You do more moment than most whom are just walking around, if your walking the banks casting or just sitting and having a beer 🍺 upper body.😁 Cheers Craig 🍻

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Bloody ridiculous isn't it. Hopefully we won't get this second wave so we can keep going out. Sorry it took a while to get to you comment Brad. Hope all's well with you.

@BradGryphonn 4 года назад

@@RobsAquaponics I'm good, mate. Got a few mental health issues I'm dealing with at the moment. I've been missing a few of your videos. But hey, I can always catch up. Love your work buddy.

@idrissblakey2262 4 года назад

Hi Rob, It's been a while since I have done pH testing for my job, but in a NATA accredited lab, for water samples that had a low salt content we would add potassium chloride to increase the ionic strength to give a reliable pH reading. Sodium chloride would work too. It could be that your system has sufficient salt content to give a reliable reading, but is hard to tell. The reliability of the pH reading is dependent on the ionic strength or salt content. The salt helps with the conductivity, which the measurement depends on.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hi Idress. I'm fairly confident that the pH reading I'm getting from the Bluelab is on the mark. 👍 There would be a small amount of chloride in there but haven't pulled out the refractometer to do a test yet as it's still packed away from the move home. Cheers mate & have a top one.

@leerobertson3015 4 года назад

Just put 10 test perch into my system yesterday, if they survive I’m ready for lots more......when the price comes down

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Nice one Lee. I'm hoping that the hatcheries will still be able to mail out through the lock down as I'd really like to get some in the system soon. Cheers.

@MrsSmith-vf2vw 4 года назад

Hi hi Rob, good to see you and your family is doing well, I saw you are starting mushroom farming, I have tried this in the past, so I would love to see how this method will work for you, thank you so much for sharing!

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hi Mrs Smith. The first batch didn't go so well but the second lot hare just starting to set fruiting bodies. 😁 Posted a pic of them over on the community page the other day & will post an updated one when I finish catching up on the comments for this clip. ru-vid.comcommunity Cheers & all the best.

@chrisbianchi9090 4 года назад

Lucky i got 12x tandanus cat fish left that must not have grown because of the Jade Perch in system, eating all the food. Blessing in disguise, since I cant get any more Jade Perch at this stage.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

That's good to hear mate. 👍 I was contemplating just grabbing some gold fish for our systems if things go too pear shaped. Can always sell them off later as larger pond fish I figure. Cheers mate & have a top one.

@syntekker 4 года назад

For what it's worth Rob, I use Charlie Carp in my system at measured doses. About 6 months ago I put my measured amount into the system and the ammonia went through the roof as well as the pH dropping like a stone. I checked the bottle and it was an old bottle that had sat with about 50mm in the bottom for 12 months. I agree that Charlie Carp seems to have a definite time limit for use before the nitrates etc revert to ammonia. Now I monitor the purchase dates carefully.

@Kearnesy 4 года назад

Thanks for this looks like mines goin in the bin haha

@syntekker 4 года назад

@@Kearnesy I still use Charlie Carp but just make sure the bottles stay cool and use them before they get too old.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Glad I'm not the only one. Syntekker. I asked others & they say they never noticed a spike but most don't test as often as I do either. Cheers & have a top one mate.

@jorgelatorre5534 4 года назад

Hola. me gustaría un video sobre control de plagas en sistema acuapónico. Gracias y felicitaciones. Muy interesante el canal

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hola. Pronto filmaré uno que analizará el control de plagas Jorge. Que tengas un buen amigo. (google translate) Hola. I will be filming one soon that will look at pest control Jorge. Have a good one friend.

@NeonblueIndustries 4 года назад

Hi Rob, Thanks for great vid! Dumb question for you, Can you throw the caterpillars into the fish tank?

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

You certainly can. We toss in grasshoppers & slaters/pill bugs as well.

@craigparry5648 4 года назад

G'Day Rob, been thinking of using shrimp in a small system, most likely a chop&flip barrel systems like you've made in the past. Have you heard of anybody running them ? My main concern is winter time here in sunny Victoria. In the river's the shrimp disappear/hibernate ? during this time. Cheers Craig 🍻 Ps. Those greens of your are going great even with the ups and downs in the system.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hi Craig. I've seen folks use them under rafts & in filters in aquaponics but only the smaller varieties like the cherry shrimp. Would love to see someone use the larger freshwater shrimp as I like eating crustaceans a lot more than fish. 😉 Would like to know how you get on if you give it a crack mate. Cheers.

@davidthomas1375 4 года назад

I can’t believe you manage to get some seedlings. They’re nearly as hard to get as seeds.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Am still seeing a lot of veggie seeds for sale in the cheap shops. Not the best quality for us to grow down here as they're coming from the UK. Fine to start off with & you can always save the seeds from the heirloom varieties to plant out next season. I also found that the smaller nurseries still had some seedlings. Most folks have been trained to shop at the big "B" store nowadays which is unfortunate for them but great for us folks that like to support the small guys. 😉 Are you all set for seeds mate? Cheers.

@davidthomas1375 4 года назад

Rob Bob's Aquaponics & Backyard Farm ok at the moment. I’m in WA and just got a few winter veg in. Also had some leftover seeds. 👍

@TownofTaylorJDSR 4 года назад

Hi Rob Bob, have been loving your aquaponics videos for a long time. I have a 2,000 gallon system I am just starting, and I have a question. I'm looking to know what are the best "numbers" for the system. Ideal pH, Ammonia level, Nitrate, Nitrite, Hardness, Oxygenation... etc. Any help would be great. (Understanding that most of these things depend on the crop and the fish raised, just looking for general levels)

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

For pH I am for between 6.5-6.8 as I think it's a good comporomise between the fish & the plants. Ammonia should only be trace if anything, Nitrite 0ppm & nitrate should ideally be between 10-80ppm. O2 is hard to measure as the meters are quite expensive. As a rule of thumb I think it's a good idea to pump into the tank the same amount of air as the tanks volume. Keep in mind that that's for a sensibly stocked system with no more than 1 fish per 6.6gal of water. 👍 Hope that helps some.

@ZokomoTV 4 года назад

Is it currently fishless? Lol nvm I saw the end now xD

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I think I should be right to add some in very soon. Cheers & have a top one.

@mr3748 3 года назад

Good day Mr Rob and any chemists/aquaponics enthusiasts who are reading this... So I have a very small aquaponics system, in which I grow lemon thyme, chives and parsley for the kitchen. The system holds about around 40l of wat and almost the same amount of grow media... I also have a microcontroller hooked up to 2 electrodes hanging in the water to tell me if my water level is to low. The electrodes operates on 3.3V and simply test for continuity. I bought 2 comets a week or so before Christmas, they are the only fish in my aquaponics system at the moment and I've noticed a while ago that they have turned black on top... I've read that this is as a result of high ammonia NH3 levels. However I only use rainwater and I am topping up the water level every 3 or 4 days with fresh rain. Please tell me if I am wrong... But it yesterday occured to me that the water level probes hanging in the water might cause electrolysis on the water. NH4+ ions will go to the - electrode and form NH3 and H+ while at the + electrode nitrate NO3- wil react with the H+ to form HNO3... I did inspect the electrodes the other day and each one had a different colour/persipitate on it, this is what raised my suspicion. Am I onto something or am I just going insane or being paranoid???? If this is so I guess the effects of this electrolysis would not be so obvious if the system was a few thousand liters/gallons large.... My pH measures neutral, I don't have a kit to measure nitrites and amonia etc as they are stupidly expensive where I live.

@RobsAquaponics 3 года назад

Hi Mate. I'm not sure I can help sorry. The easiest way to test would be a test kit but understand it may be hard to source there. Do you know anyone with an aquarium that might be able to lend you there's for a test or two? Sorry I'm not much help.

@willembotha2972 4 года назад

Hi Rob, what do you use to keep aphids under control I lost a bunch of strawberry plants due to these little buggers cross-contaminating between the plants? any advice will be appreciated huge van of your videos build most of my system based on yours.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Keeping ants out of the beds is a great start as they will will farm the aphids for the honeydew they excrete. I found the best way for large infestations ids to just crush as many as you can with a jet of water from the hose. Th then go over & squish any the hose misses by hand. It may take a few days to get the numbers down but it does work. Some folks will then dust the plants with food grade diatomaceous earth (DE) to help control any stragglers. The DE as microscopic sharp edges that will cut into the aphids & kill them off. Hope that helps a bit & that you can get on top on the little buggers.

@lowrads3653 4 года назад

NH3 should outgas from systems as pH increase or as oxidation occurs, even without the agency of microorganisms, though other redox fractions of N are going to rely upon them heavily. The clay media should serve as good solution buffers for cationic components, but as you've seen, not so great for anions. Rainwater obviously is weakly buffered, so it can experience strong swings in pH with minimal change in additions or subtractions of salts. The use of geotextile materials could be useful for anyone considering adding a fine textured minerals buffer/sorbate media, but also wishing to avoid clouding the system with fine silt or disaggregated clays. Dolomitic minerals are probably the most obviously useful given their solubilities. The hydroponics crowd seems to be ok with using materials from open cycle refineries, but plants have hundreds of millions of years of practice managing that on their own.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

The idea is to get the NH3 to convert through to NO3 so it's less toxic to the fish & plant available not to off gas. Cheers.

@BikesBoatsBees 4 года назад

Hey Rob! Did you make the frame for the black growbed? Looks very neat!

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Danny got Stabfab at Bundamba to make them up when he first bought them Justin www.stabfab.com/ He did a top notch job & will be pinching the design for future builds here as well. Thanks again for the Kang Kong. Have some in the aquaponics & will be starting some off in a hydro bucket as well. Cheers mate.

@dicephalous9076 4 года назад

Rob my all water parameters are perfect, but i always deal with microoragnism n bad pathogens either parasites, or mold, fungi spore etc, i plan to install UV filter, im not worried about benefical bacteria get killed, i have lot of them in the media, but i worried about the effect for the plants, what do u think rob? Best regards

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I do recall reading that UV filters will affect the availability of some nutrients for the plants but can't find the link looking through my bookmarks sorry Dicephalous. I remember the folks over on the aquaponics anonymous FB page saying the same thing so it might pay you to do a search & weight up the pro's & con's of using one. Sorry I'm not much help

@savioborges1311 4 года назад

Hi Rob, love your videos. Can I know if we can use the concentrated Ammonia for the initial cycle? Bought it from Amazon it's in a glass bottle.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

As long as it's pure ammonia with no perfumes or soap added you should be all good. 👍 I have some more cycling info here, ► ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kmxfI_fkmtc.html Just remember not to overload the system or you may need to start again. Hope that helps some.

@Duck95ish 4 года назад

Mr Rob, thanks a mil for the vids. Have been studying your material in preparation of starting up my own aquaponics set up. You have mentioned a formula to calculating how much media you need to support your fish (works out to roughly 25L of media per 500g of fish) - so my question to you is: - what if you are running a hybrid system (raftbeds and media beds)? is there a way to tell how many m2 of media is equivalent to how many m2 of raft-beds? Hope my question makes sense. Regards to you and the family, God bless

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hi Plenchie. The rafts will have surface area for the bacteria but I prefer not to count it in the equation. Not including it helps to give you a bit of a buffer in case things go pear shaped. Will you be running a biofilter as well to provide extra bio filtration ? Sorry it took a while to get back to you.

@Duck95ish 4 года назад

@@RobsAquaponics Thank you very much for the response, i know you're a busy chap. At this point the set up is main tank -> swirl filter -> brush filter -> extra clarifier -> grow bed 1 -> grow bed 2 -> raft bed 1 -> raft bed 2 -> 1KL sump (but also made into a fluidized media bioreactor) -> back to main tank.

@billyabston4531 4 года назад

Have you ever considered adding crawfish to your system?

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Had them in the first few systems but ended up losing them to the gold fish & other cray's as they moulted. Have seen others grow out some tasty looking critters though. Cheers Billy.

@chrisbianchi9090 4 года назад

Hi Rob good luck getting fish, Jade Perch i tried 3 weeks ago and they had to organise air freight, then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldnt get in contact with me, lucky done through paypal.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

What company was that Chris?

@chrisbianchi9090 4 года назад

Abington Aquaculture in Qld, Probaby because of air freight to townsville Qld

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

@@chrisbianchi9090 think Aussie Native Fish Enterprises still have stock if that helps at all. www.ausnativefish.com.au/

@chrisbianchi9090 4 года назад

Thanks Rob ill give them a go.

@ogdobogdo8095 4 года назад

That's a lot of plumbing you got going on there. Do you have a video for that build?

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I did a workaround clip a few weeks back that may help some, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lVYnsnyg8gw.html Am yet to do a clip on the filters themselves as I was waiting to have some fish waste in there so I could demonstrate it in the clip. 😕 Might do one now anyway as it may be a while before we get fish due to the lock down for the virus. Cheers Jeremy.

@TwoTreesStudio 2 года назад

I have anxiety attacks whenever there's glass anywhere near my system. I am NOT dealing with rebuilding everything to get broken glass out of there.

@RobsAquaponics 2 года назад

I can relate to that. Would hate to have to pump out a sump or fish tank.

@CharlieRockRock 4 года назад

Can a top be made for each grow bed like the ones on the veggie pods to keep the worms and the like out?

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I've seen folks net the beds to keep the butterflies & bugs out Charles. Some will use the flexible electrical conduit where others will build a hoop house over the whole system. I take it you're having issues at the moment. Hope you can get on top of the pest mate.

@matfun2805 4 года назад

Hey Rob Bob, can you help me? Maybe you know the Fish Tilapia, ist from the USA and China, I want to get them into a small IBC aquaponic System and I don't know, how I can have them into the winter. So in Germany, In the winter, here is dome freeze and I should get Ice. Can they live outside, or should I bring them into my Room? I don't know, what to do. Wfg (is this English? With friendly Greetings? How ever...? WfG Mathis from Germany

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

Hey Mathias. I know of an Aussie that grew barramundi in Switzerland so tilapia in Germany should be doable. It would be a case of growing them inside all year round or maybe using a greenhouse where you have some control over the environment might be the way to go. They do start to die when water temp drops towards 10°C so you'll need to keep that in mind. I'm not very experienced with indoors growing or tilapia so hope that helped a bit. Cheers & happy growing mate.

@matfun2805 4 года назад

@@RobsAquaponics Thanks a lot for your Help Mathis

@Luis-fd5bs 4 года назад

Where did you buy your phmeter?

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

The lovely folks at Bluelab were kind enough to donate one to me. You can get them from most good hydroponic retailers. If you're in Australia you could try Aqua Gardening as they ship Australia wide. www.aquagardening.com.au/bluelab-combo-meter-for-ph-ec-temperature If you're in the States, I have them listed on my Amazon page, www.amazon.com/shop/bnbob01?listId=JK0CLK814GTA Hope that helps some. Please note that I receive a commission from Amazon if you use that link to buy. 😉👍

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@Danielle33384 4 года назад

lol victims 😂 That’s what I say when planting anything

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I have few more unsuspecting victims to go out into the beds later today.... Poor fellas. 😉😁

@asifbhoy8347 4 года назад

Hello Rob, Need your help. Today I noticed white spots on top of the heads of my Tilapia and fish are not taking any feed as well. Yesterday everything was ok. I have about 30 fish in a 1000 litre round tanks, every thing is fine in other tank which is although a part of same system. I don't know how to upload the picture

@asifbhoy8347 4 года назад

Hi Rob, If you have time, Can you please help? Any advice?

@asifbhoy8347 4 года назад

Is there anyone who can tell me the way to get attention from Mr.Rob. or may ne my comment is not visible to him, probably.

@RobsAquaponics 4 года назад

I'm sorry I didn't get back to you right away but RU-vid is only part of what I do & I have to try to earn a living as well. As it is I don't get enough time to work on my projects due to the amount of folks asking for help. It sounds like your fish have ich. A salt bath of 6-8ppt (parts per thousand) for 10 minutes is the way most aquaponics folks will treat it. ONLY USE sea salt as table salt has other additives that are best not used in the system. Hope that helps some.

@asifbhoy8347 4 года назад

@@RobsAquaponics Thanks, Rob, for the help. I didn't mean to make you upset, I am sorry for that. Actually, I was thinking my comment is not visible to you, as this was my first ever comment on RU-vid, I will be more patience next time. After losing 5 fish, what I did is desperately changed my 50% of the water ( about 1500 liters). Although the new water was chlorinated but I was not thinking about this at that time. After changing water everything seems fine except the PH raised from 6 to 6.8, Ammonia 0.5ppm (old value was not measured), Nitrite 0ppm, Nitrate 5.0ppm (old value was not measured). Next time I will do exactly as advised by you.