Viktor is not a vilain since a few years in league. In he's new lore before Arcane he doesn't forced anyone to become partialy robot. And always told to people what kind of good or bad effect it could have. On the other side, Jayce refused to give the hextech core to save Zaun citizen. So Viktor took it anyway yeah. Jayce angry at him go and destroy his lab, killing dozens of citizen waiting for cure or simply waiting to be saved.
@Bruh, James Bruh Well Evelyn is a demon and we can definitely classify her as a female. Fiddle on the other hand is a male because according to lore, and I quote " Fiddlesticks was an innocent human whose soul was bound into his scarecrow-like remains after his wrongful death"
Hmm, be a human constrained by the physical limitations of a flesh and bone body, that can leave you with a limp for a week because you slept weird one night, or be an essentially immortal, bulletproof machine with magic and lasers, that acts as a casing for your brain, leaving all your mental faculties intact. I may be on my own here, but I would Ashe, I would willingly do that to myself.
Because until the series Vander wasn't a character. So there was no line to draw between the two. We just thought he had some interesting voice lines that may or may not have been random thoughts. Except that one guy on reddit who years ago predicted this outcome and that warwick was their dad. What a champ. And maybe a time traveler.
Tbh, as someone who has played for almost a year, and has one tricked WW since week 3 of my playing league, I was surprised to see that WW wasn't in the initial lineup for Arcane, but once they started calling him the hound and I found he was a gangster who tried to turn his life around, I was CONVINCED he was WW, and then he "died" which was the final part of his transformation into WW
He is, in the very first episode, called the “Hound of the Underground”, it feels so much like a shoutout to those who know the games lore that if Riot doesn’t make it canon in season 2 it would be a huge sin on their part. So much set up for this to be canon with that and the fact singed is in the show that if its not there would be so many fans extremely upset.
@@tebogotwala5185 Nah, he looks up to Vaynder. Dont forget that Heimer did build Piltover and never did somthing against the suffering of zaun. Ekko is the only one who fallow Vanders passion after his dead. He build the Fierflys und is the only one whos protecting the people of Zaun. Vander wanted that Vi should be his lagacy, but she was not there. Ekko was the only one who carries the burden of Vander, missing bringing back Powder and protecting the people alone.
I said that on another post. while she was being experimented on she probably seen him. He probably her heard screams, not like he could do anything about it though.. poor guy..
@@roberto9094 I'm not familiar with the Warwick lore, but maybe he was brought back from the dead, if that's the case he didn't hear her (or maybe from the afterlife).
@@sqxbarto9229 Vander didn't die. Shimmer has regenerative properties that Vander getting stabbed won't kill him. Likely Singed took him and made him an experiment considering that Vander still had control despite using shimmer. Although as he was being experimented on, the pain made him lose some memories.
@@bellarosa2820 i know its a theory but i have to say she didnt. Camille is a killing machine that is completely powered by Hextech, and Hextech hadnt been made by Jayce and Viktor at the time Vi and Jinx's parents were killed. So its cant be her, maybe she knows who did it.
Season 2 we will see Camile fight alongside Vi and Caitlyn against the Zaun people (Warwick, Urgot, Viktor) more likely. And Viktor will create his Robot army (including blitzcrank) and there will 100% be war for most of season 2
@@angienoexiste I would kill for an ekko and jinx valentines skin hahah or at least any similar themed skin that can be a substitute for a couple skin ԅ( ͒ ͒ )ᕤ
WW voiceline "You were there, let me forget" was that moment where singe was 'fixing' jinx with shimmer. He saw her suffering on that table while enduring the excruciating pain from shimmer
no. it was when jinx cried when vi left, there's a line in his lore which is "Warwick struggled to recall a single memory from his past... All he could see was blood. But then he heard a little girl screaming. Screaming something he couldn’t understand. It sounded like a name."
@@mukplayz7413 could even be the fact powder jinxed the entire plan and is the reason why everything went to hell during the fight scene "you were there, let me forget" implying he knew it was her but doesn't want to believe it
@@GamingBoyRishad Just at the end, while Jinx's rocket is flying towards the council tower. Singed is looking at a picture of Oriana and you can see a man and his arm dangling from the ceiling.
I still wonder how they want to transition Jinx 'blissfully batshit crazy' instead of 'sadly struggling with crippling depression' insane. Cause the in-game Jinx is like Arcane Jinx during the experiment montages, but x100.
jinx in lol is literally harley quinn 2.0 they really need to update her and vi as they did cait, their arcane personalities are just way more better imo
Jinx in lol is doing her best to destroy things because she wants to be seen so because of the end of arcane season 1. Jinx Lost her second dad and has done what she has done. Perhaps explosing things is going to be her way to fight her depression
He's a morally grey character just like the rest of Arcane characters. So I would understand why some characters hate him or detest him and his so called "Glorious Evolution"
@@Somespideronline I feel that Victor is Neutral Good overall, as all of his intentions are otherwise good. And anything bad he's actually done was never on purpose.
You know..it never made sense how WW said you were there when no one besides Vi knew that Powder was at Silcos base. And then it hit me… The one thing WW wants to forget the most was how he was created. In Singed’s lab…and you know who else was there? Jinx.
@@andrewolds6048 the issue is that he only heard screaming (which was probably Powder when she was crying out Violet). I don’t think he can really remember whose voices spoke at this point. He doesn’t even remember VI’s name. Also, Vi never said Powder’s name during their conversation when Vander was “dead”behind them. It’s obvious that Vander is WW. I’m not doubting that at all. All I’m saying is that it never made sense that WW said that “you were there…let me forget” because if he doesn’t remember who was with him when he died. Why would he remember someone who wasn’t next to him when he died? Also why would he want to forget his times with the kids? That never made sense to me either. It just made more sense that while he was in his WW form he would actually remember Jinx.
@@lorenzoelron746 he doesn't? It appears that Vi was the one that saw the toy, but apparently she doesn't cause she's surprised when Powder admits she did it. There's no evidence that Vander saw anything related to Powder at the warehouse. All he remembers hearing was someone screaming. All Vander did see was the kids crushed by rubble and Vi struggling under the door. If Vander did see the toy they would put more emphasis with the camera, but instead they put the emphasis when Vi flips over (which is why it was believed that she knew it was Powder who caused the explosion) So no Vander didn't see anything related to Powder.
@@JickAudio do you remember what Vi calls powder in that scene? Jinx, the name which she goes by exclusively by the time of league, so yes Warwick had heard the name before.
After hearing the interaction between Kalista and Jinx from LoR I would guess that League Jinx wouldn't care at all, Powder is long gone, she would be like "What are you even talking about?"
I would be surprised if Fiddlesticks knew Jinx at all, I think it's just regurgitating her own fears back at her and making her relive the moment Vi called her a jinx.
Arcane strategicly introduced Noxus, making me think that Urgot HAS to be in season 2 and I can't imagine Camille not making an appearance, she's a very lore driven champion though that makes season 2 kinda jammed full of storylines it may be a bit much, perhaps dialing back on Jayce, Vi and Jinx's roles to focus on Viktor, Ekko, Warwick, Caitlyn; with Camille being Caitlyn's big story arc
Isn't Warwick's relationship gonna be related to Vi, Jinx, and singed tho? Seems kind of important... Also I can understand to make Viktor stand aside since I feel like it would be a bigger surprise when he fully transforms in season 3 (if there is gonna be one)
I feel like introducing Camille and Urgot would kinda fill things up a little too much. We already have like, 7 champions in the series. Warwick is definitely gonna show up, which brings it up to 8. Also I think Camille’s story kinda got retconned in Arcane? Her family is supposed to hold a monopoly on hex crystals, yet they are only mentioned once, and she was supposed to have received a hextech heart years before hextech was invented in the series.
Season 2 is going to (most likely) be the conclusion of season 2. Probably not many new characters, to many plot threads to finish. I also don't think noxus will play a huge role, except by instigating things. (aka, not actually present or not very present, more of a threat). It is possible we get Camile, but Hexteck is still pretty new. And she relies on hexteck for what we see. Unless we see her lose her legs and get replacements. Its possible we see glimpses of her in some way, I do not doubt it. But probably not very important to the plot.
@@Tsuusetsu it just feels the the logical leap for the story to take is Viktors Glorious Evolution and while Urgot and Camille are not followers of Viktor directly, Viktor is responsible for the massive proliferation of augmentation while was shown in season 1 but not nearly to the extent of what we know Zaun is known for... Siveka may also join Viktor, anyways, the two champions most exemplifying the concept of hex tech and chem tech augmentations are Urgot and Camille. Clan Ferros was mentioned and is very important to Caitlyn's character with "C" and everything, tbh I thought we might see Corina during the greenhouse scene with Silco and the Chem barons lol if we have Corina then her grandmother will definitely be mentioned at least. Mel's mother seems to be setting up Swain for some reason, which I suppose is really just a reminder that the world expands much large than the twin cities, but I am just throwing it out there, there where more and more ravens showing up as the season went along, spies? Lol I doubt it but kinda funny.
Not Swain, Raum his crow demon. Demons feed on pain and suffering, they can be everywhere. edit: Wait Im wrong Swains Demon Raum is a Raven. Crows are Fiddlesticks.
@@leihtory7423 Demons technically feed on emotions. Certain demons eg fiddlesticks feeds on fear, while say Evelyn feeds on lust and betrayal, and Tahm feeds on greed (and other emotions I don't fully remember) etc.
I think the "you were there......let me forget" is referring less about a place and more about the you. Like "you were there...in our past..in our family" , and the "let me forget" is "let me forget sweet, innocent Powder tourned out to be Jinx"
@@unompenumevrafalsy1914 Ravens are big birds. Almost hawk-sized. They have big beaks with fluff around the nose, and are always all black. Crows are about the size of a pigeon, with small beaks, and their beaks can be black or yellow.
Is that dance jinx is doing... it's that jakes bug dance from adventure time? "Nah man you're shaking it all wrong, let me show you how it's done" *bass filled beats*
1:40 I have a feeling this line is about the lab Singed made Warwick in and not about the docks incident, because remember where the two were in the lab and Warwick wants to forget about that place
According to the lore, Camille's well over 100 years old. The characters in Arcane (Vi, Cait, Ekko,Jinx,Jayce, Vik and Singed) all look to be in their late 20s, early 30s. It's feasable that Camille was involved with the deaths of Vi and Jinx's parents.
@@SSD_Penumbra cait and vi are in their late teens early 20's. ekko and jinx are around mid-late teens. jayce is the only one even close to 30 by the time act 2 happens.
Camille surely hasn't killed her parents because Hextech didn't exist back then, so she was just human. She probably just sent the guards to repress the protests with violence.
@@manolgeorgiev9664 Well if you read her lore ( I don't think this is up to date) she didn't do this by choice I think. Her lover I think had too and replace her with machine parts. Plz dont get angry at me it's just what I think
It be interesting if it was Mylo that was fiddlestick I know he isn't per everyone else but what a twist that be and the lines would fit with what happened.
I doubt Viktor really is behind Zaun machineries. Listening Ekko's said, this proves right. Maybe Viktor really has something hidden in his sleeves while working with Jayce or, even before he met Jayce. And that all machineries in Zaun were invented by him.
Warwick to Vi omg Riot doesn't confirm yet but I still believe the theory of Vander will becomes Warwick anyway so 1:26 sounds familiar to Vander's line when Vi said "We need to fight back, and if you won't, I will" and he said "I've heard this kind of talk before" and also 1:33 *"who taught you how to punch?"* *YOU* , *Vander* , it's *YOU* *And* Warwick to Jinx as well? 1:37 "You were there... Let me forget" Did he mention about Powder was there.. and now she becomes Jinx, so he wants to forget that she was there? that she was his daughter? *My FREAKING THEORIES are mixing rn*
it's not a theory, it's a lore, the first theory which is ekko being the leader of the firelights was actually true which means vander being warwick is true too, since in his lore, his only memory was blood and a girl screaming a name. and knowing riot, they like to bring back the dead.
Making fan guess for s2. If Mel survives base on I assume she has a Magic barrier that mitigates damage from jinx mega rocket but badly hurt then her mother will step in and control/crush the ppl of zaun. Later shows it’s harder then she thought with zaun for sure gonna start experimenting shimmer mutation. If anything she may capture someone that knows chemtech well, need a “volunteer” for it and instead of using her own troops or piltover officers she sent word to someone in noxus to send a prisoner to piltover for the experiment. Basically yeah got urgot and his show origins. Then they send urgot down to zaun mindcontrolled to kill any shimmer mutated or even zaun citizen on sight. Eventually he breaks free and goes into hiding.
