@@disturbinglygood Patrick: thanks so much for all you do for the Catholic cause!! I was wondering if I could ask to you to email me regarding the SSPX. I have listened to your arguments regarding them and I was wondering if I could ask your advice. Can I send you my email address? In Domino, Chris Bates
Thank you. So important to point out that canonical law issued in cliff note style (like in 1980s) will and did lead to more confusion & departure. Today? Who knows what can survive of the Faith. For 2 millenia the reason for unity of the Faith was Church Doctrine. Structure of Papal Authority to Bishop & Priest reinforced the always present & practiced tenants of Faith. VII made the clear become cloudy & the upheld become abolished. The termites have been working 24/7. To the catacombs .... 🙏
The man holding the temporary position of first amongst equals of the apostles of Jesus Christ alive at this time amongst the militant part of the communion of saints is a sinner just like you and me and was chosen by a tiny fraction of half of the the believers alive at the time of his election. As a human institution within the fellowship it is called to be charismatically institutional and seldom living up to that task. As the fellowship of believers is a human group, it consists of individuals subject to the natural order of things, primates endowed with a spiritual nature with an inborn need for society with a hierarchical structure. My take on current affairs is this. A large number of people are acting as if they belong to another sect of Judaism with the idea of salvation by law keeping. Tribal, Cultural, Consumer, Idealogical Monotheists
PP Francis teaches that God "wills the diversity of religions" and that "no one can exclude themselves from the Church". Please obey PP Francis on the matter of excommunication in which he teaches that Vigino is in fact NOT excluded from the Church, and that we have a moral obligation to respect Vigano's lived experience. “No one can exclude themselves from the Church, we are all saved sinners...those who have denied the faith, who are apostates, who are the persecutors of the Church, who have denied their baptism: Are these also at home?...Yes, these too. All of them. The blasphemers, all of them. We are brothers. This is the communion of saints. The communion of saints holds together the community of believers on earth and in heaven, and on earth the saints, the sinners, all." -PP Francis February 2, 2022 Vatican weekly wednesday general audience Obey the Pope!
You are very confused in terms of your ecclesiology - ask an expert before proceedings further. By teaching formal heresy and obstinately adhering to it he has lost the Petrine Office, even if he were validly elected which is highly unlikely.
@@andrewmiles3378 @stevedoetsch was being sarcastic. It took me a few readings to figure out what he meant. He quoted Francis' own (incorrect) words to press the (incorrect) point that "no one can exclude themselves from the church, we are all saved sinners...."
*Humanae Vitae never declared itself infallible dogma. Humanae Vitae never declared itself infallible dogma.* HV never even said that contraception is a mortal sin. And venial sins are snooze. *The popes failed* terribly by NOT identifying Casti Cannubii and Humanae Vitae as ex cathedra declarations of faith and morals to the universal church. And there were statements, in both, that were false. I don't disagree with the central teachings in HV. But it was poorly written and used circular reasoning.
@@dianneraimondi8382 FALSE. You are lying. Humanae Vitae DID need to declare whether it was infallible. Same with Casti Cannubii. *Not every word that drips from the mouth of a pope is infallible.* Humanae Vitae was a poorly written document by the ambiguous Paul VI, who also promulgated the irreverent Novus Ordo Mass.
@@dianneraimondi8382 Not once has any Church authority declared it to be an infallible dogma that contraception is a mortal sin. The cowardly Paul VI did not even say if artificial contraception was a venial or mortal sin. More crap! Our prelates are cowards.