3:44 Jean Stapleton and Carroll o'Connor demonstrate their acting chops in this moment when Edith gets in Archie's face and lays down the law. Listen to the audience's reaction (and Archie's reaction to... LOL!) ! I LOVE IT!
@@MichaelMeade-d7b Archie isn't really a bully. Archie was bullied himself in school as well as abused by his father. What you see is his reaction to a changing society that he does not agree with and does not know how to cope with as well as carrying the baggage from his childhood. Deep down under, he loves his family and cares deeply about them and will do anything for them.
The great thing about these Heatwave episodes is that the cast legitimately sweating from the hot studio lights makes it genuine with the storyline of it being REALLY hot there... 😎👍
And the police Sgt was tough and no-nonsense. Not his goofy and jovial Frank Lorenzo character. Just wanted to find and apprehend the vigilante. He took off his glasses for the roles in the movies to appear more tough.
Archie: (after having returned from Kelcy’s later that night) “I don’t give a care anymore about you wanting to make new friends, Edith! So, I’m gonna draw a line in the sand, and absolutely no more meals to be cooked in this house, except when you’re cooking them! Above all else, I’ll never touch anything cooked by Frank Lorenzo again as long as I live, unless your no good cousin Maude is visiting us! Do I make myself clear to you, Dingbat?!” Edith: “Ok, Archie. You win again. I’ll only ask Frank Lorenzo to cook whenever Maude decides to visit us, Archie. Also, if you want to eat cold spaghetti from a can go right ahead, because I won’t stop you. I just wanted to try his Vichyssoise. From now on, I’ll just cook for you alone.”
They should have found another actor to play Frank. He played at least two separate characters in two different episodes prior to playing Irene's husband.
@@prettybullet7728 True. First he was Jim Bowman who owned the house next door and sold it to the Jeffersons. Then he played Curtis Rempley who was the 'swinger' husband. However, back in those days, on many shows producers used the same actors to play different bit parts. It was quite common. Norman Lear was no different. I think I Love Lucy was the first to do it. Actors like Frank Nelson, Barbara Pepper and Allen Jenkins were used for multiple bit parts. Barbara Pepper had been a friend of Lucy's since her days as a Goldwyn Girl. By the 50's she was an alcoholic and couldn't get work so Lucy hired her for bit parts. Of course, she would go on to play Mrs. Ziffel in Green Acres.
Vincent Gardenia would leave the show for other ventures, and that caused a problem with the character of Irene. From then on, it was implied that Frank was either at home or on a business trip. After making a lot of appearances by herself, the character of Irene was written out of the show as, by that time, Betty Garrett had landed a role in "Laverne and Shirley".
All in the Family had great character actors! Vincent Gardenia and Betty Garrett as Frank and Irene Lorenzo. Gardenia was an Italian-American stage, film, and television actor, nominated twice for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor, first for Bang the Drum Slowly (1973) and again for Moonstruck (1987). Garrett made it big in 1949's "On the Town" with stars Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, Ann Miller, and Vera-Ellen.
I remember when Gloria and Mike wanted Chinese food for their wedding and Archie made uh, a disparaging remark about that cuisine. He said to the effect, "We're having something AMERICAN, like a "peete-zer". His NY pronunciation of pizza.
He was going to order the pizza for himself b/c he thought Uncle Casper was going to pay for everything (LOL). Archie does take Edith out for dinner once at a very inexpensive Chinese restaurant, however. He particularly enjoyed paying only a 10-cent tip
Nah it's not strange. Back in 'dem dere days' when budgets and costs for shows actually meant something, several actors played different parts on the same series over it's run. Norman Lear was a genius when it came to his shows. But he was also a cheapskate! LOL
@@retroguy9494Good explanation. Its hard for me to believe it when some people are amazed when character actors turn up again in a different part. Well, not the rapist in Edith's 50th Birthday; him they didn't bring back! 🫣
@@robd2721 Thank you! You're right. They didn't bring back the actor from the rape episode. I'll tell you an interesting little story about that episode. Edith was such a beloved character that Norman Lear was actually afraid that when Edith got attacked that members of the studio audience might rush the stage to try to stop it. So he hired private security guards for that day and had them placed all around the stage and in the audience. When Edith fought off the attacker and threw him out, I read that the studio audience was so happy that some of them actually stood up on their seats to applaud and cheer. And it went on for so long that they had to stop filming which is why we kind of have that hard cut to Gloria's kitchen.
He probably sneaked back to the kitchen, after having a dozen beers at Kelcy’s, and polished off the can of spaghetti before Edith could dispose of it to teach him a lesson in letting someone else do the cooking for a change?! Therefore, back when Edith was on jury duty, I can’t rightly blame him for wanting to wait until Edith came home to cook, in spite of the fact that Gloria said, “I made dinner, but he just wouldn’t eat!!!” Anyway, bran flakes and oatmeal are not proper ingredients for meatloaf; only bread crumbs or crackers! Also, given the circumstances of the dilemma, Archie was in his right not wanting to eat what Frank Lorenzo cooked! I recall once when Sally McMillan told her husband that they were having veggie burgers at a health food restaurant, which was actually a gymnasium, and all because she felt that good old fashioned frankfurters were too fattening.
If you want my opinion, Frank with his sulking and Archie with his general assholishness were both being babies. And who wears long sleeves in the blazing heat? LOL at Archie "The hell with him" typical New Yorker, I love that about him.
If Archie knew that he was going to have dinner with some of Edith's friends he should have dinner somewhere else and come home and make like the cold soup who won the world wants cold soup anyway and if Edith wants friends they could have a brunch well Archie's at work Archie come home she give him a beer and that'll be it😂😂😂😂😂
As I recall, Betty Garrett was O'Connor's preferred choice to play Irene. I think Norman Lear wanted the actress Sada Thompson to play her, but O'Connor refused. Gardenia was a great, utility player for the show, but reputedly didn't work well together with Lear, and eventually dropped out
Maude: “Vichyssoise?! Edith, have you let the bats 🦇 take over your belfry?” Edith: “No, Maude. I’m just following the marriage vows of loving, honoring, and obeying, of Archie that is.” Irene: “Now, I’m confused! I thought that Archie didn’t want to eat anything Frank cooked!” Edith: “Well, cousin Maude’s visit here is an occasion when Archie’s willing to give in just once.” Frank: “I feel like I’m in that Stooges short called “3 ARABIAN NUTS”! Archie wanting me to cook, not for himself, but for your visiting cousin?! Edith I’m honored!” Walter: “Just out of curiosity, what’s on the menu?” Frank: “Archie asked me to serve broiled lobster 🦞 as well as shrimp 🍤 salad and crabmeat 🦀 cocktail!” Arthur: “At least he’s holding onto Munson’s taxi in case I get any calls to return to Tuckahoe right away.” Vivian: “I suppose that would come in handy.” Gloria: “I can’t seem to figure out why Daddy would want Frank to cook for cousin Maude?!” Edith: “Gloria, can I see you in private for a minute? On the stoop, if you don’t mind?” Gloria: “Sure, Ma.” Going out onto the front porch. Edith: “Gloria, you and me and Mike and the Lorenzos know what a disaster it was when Archie was shocked to learn that Vichyssoise is supposed to be served cold? Well, he swore he would never touch anything else that Frank Lorenzo cooked ever again except in cases like now with cousin Maude visiting us tonight.” Gloria: “Has Daddy finally developed a taste for cold vichyssoise, Ma?” Edith: “Don’t count too heavily on that possibility, Gloria. He asked Frank for broiled lobster 🦞 as well as the shrimp 🍤 salad and the crabmeat 🦀 cocktail because he feels that it’ll keep Maude distracted from talking possibly.” Gloria: “But why have Frank Lorenzo cooking a dinner that fancy, even for cousin Maude?” Edith: “Maybe he feels that it’ll keep her distracted under any and all circumstances of the dilemma.” Gloria: “What dilemma, Ma?” Edith: (in tears 😭) “Dr. Nelson committed suicide in prison, and even if it’s true that he wasn’t even allowed to be practicing medicine or performing surgery, let alone writing out prescriptions anymore, well, I went to the funeral for Dr. Nelson down at Whitehead’s Funeral Home, and Reverend Chong was preaching at it. Mainly because your father had Reverend Feltcher occupied with a Christian service at the tombstone 🪦 of Stretch Cunningham, and Reverend Feltcher has no idea whatsoever about Stretch being Jewish.”
@docadams7099, Because he didn’t want to eat a meal cooked by a man?! Because he would rather have whatever Edith cooked on that peticular night of the week?! If Irene wasn’t such a mechanical type, and Frank dabbled less and less in cooking, maybe things would be more at peace with Archie?!
