Are 20mph speed limits enforceable?

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@jackieclarke9771 Год назад

I live in South Wales and it’s a nightmare but I’ve noticed every time there is a back up of 20mph traffic the police put their blues and twos on so they can get through🤬 I’ve also noticed the buses seem to be travelling faster than 20mph. Another annoying thing is the older drivers don’t even do 20mph they go anything from 12-15mph, we’ve got cyclists and motorbikes overtaking the lines of cars. There are even roads that have 30mph painted on the road and then a 20mph signpost.. I can tell you that road rage has increased so that’s going to lead to more accidents you can see all the drivers screaming and shouting in their cars. Drakeford needs to go.

@flashman2 Год назад

The Welsh keep voting them in

@mikewade777 Год назад

Backed up traffic is the result of speeding and unnecessary short distance travel. Has nothing to do with speed limits.

@thedirectorschair1054 Год назад

Drakeford needed to go a decade ago.

@XENUGOLFCLUB Год назад

Cops don’t stick to 30mph, no chance at 20

@attaat Год назад

@@mikewade777 Rubbish.

@Frecklesboy Год назад

Wales the only place you can get done for speeding an curb crawling at the same time

@alangknowles Год назад

*Kerb.

@adolfshitler Год назад

@@alangknowles There's always one

@rogerthedodger5788 Год назад

😂😂😂.......

@pobsdad 5 месяцев назад

@@adolfshitler Someone has to.

@JudithGrainger Год назад

All these new lower limits are supposed to make the roads safer? I’m looking forward to reduced insurance costs due to less accidents!

@patriarch7237 Год назад

Strictly speaking, its not fewer accidents, its fewer fatalities from accidents. Insurance costs don't really figure into those.

@lesigh1749 Год назад

No, they are in force to make drivers to give up using their cars and take public transport instead. It's coercive behavior. The pretext is the environment, but cars driving at 20MPH emit more pollution per mile than cars rolling at 30 or 40 MPH do. The safety statistics are true, but then its MUCH safer if we all just walk, so how far do they want us to go in that direction?

@JonathanGray_UK Год назад

i love the typical british mindset we have tbh. instead of training people not to walk in front of cars, we lower the speed limit of the car. so they can still get hit by it, but survive

@jeremywilson2022 Год назад

If you think that's going to happen you are living in cloud cuckoo land!

@lesigh1749 Год назад

@@JonathanGray_UK We call it the nanny State, but it is mostly limited to lefty middle-class types who think everyone else is responsible for their safety so they don't have to bother themselves.

@AndrooUK Год назад

Considering that no kids play outside anymore, the actual rate of collisions must be going down all the time. 😅

@loyaltytoroyalty Год назад

I spent a day in Cardiff yesterday, and it felt like I spent more time checking my speedo than looking at the road.

@TheGrumpyChairman Год назад

Maybe it's time to retake your driving test.

@loyaltytoroyalty Год назад

@@TheGrumpyChairman why?

@nighttrain1236 Год назад

Stay in second gear and get some practice.

@loyaltytoroyalty Год назад

@@messageoftruth9797 don’t drive like what?

@paulhenry7 Год назад

Use cruise control.

@herculeholmes504 Год назад

Note: If the speed limit is 30mph, and a vehicle is traveling at 30mph, it is very rare that the vehicle will still be traveling at 30mph at point of impact in a collision. Most usually the driver will hit his brakes and his speed will be significantly reduced. 30mph zone does NOT mean 30mph impacts.

@theotherside8258 Год назад

I expect its pretty rare that someone will be travelling exactly at 30. Drivers know enforcement usually applies some leeway

@keithmartland6463 Год назад

most accidents happen at junction when speed is lower, or people crossing the road

@redf7209 Год назад

@@keithmartland6463 well most of those wont be fatal then. I think that's the point. Its not so much about stopping accidents but reducing fatal ones.

@sw01ller Год назад

you spelt "her" wrong

@patrikfloding7985 Год назад

Huh?

@BionicRusty Год назад

Where I live we have what are effectively miles of moorland and it’s all now 20mph. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

@The_Irish_Volunteer 5 месяцев назад

Ignore it.

@leeroychang Год назад

Love that you answer the question immediately and then explain further. The title got me interested, I'm not frustrated to wait for the answer, then I want to stay to hear the explanation. High quality content as usual. Thanks and well done.

@lemdixon01 Год назад

My friend in Wales says its now 20 mph with speed cameras when it was 40mph, on a main road in a remote areas with no schools, hospitals or houses apart from his. Its all about stopping private long distance transport for ordinary people and small business. So bear that in mind.

@mikewade777 Год назад

No it's all about stopping short distance transport

@Cat10980 Год назад

@@mikewade777 Which they also have no right to do.

@mikewade777 Год назад

Which makes a good case for ending the NHS @@Cat10980

@YDysgwrAraf Год назад

This is nonsense. Didn't happen. Only previously 30mph roads are affected, and not all of them. I drove from south to north and back again on the A470 this weekend, and no 40mph sections have been changed, even where they really should have been (Cemaes and Cwm-Llinau in Montgomeryshire are good examples).

@lemdixon01 Год назад

@@YDysgwrAraf I'm just relaying what he told me as I haven't been there myself. He lives in North Wales near Flint in quite a remote area. I normally trust his truthfulness. He said he still drives 40mph despite the 20mph signs so maybe he was going over the speed limit before it went down to 20mph but with less or no signs and speed cameras before the change. He said people are sabotaging the functioning of the new cameras and vandalising the 20mph signs.

@Thurgosh_OG Год назад

Earlier this year the head of Thames Valley Police said that local councils could make as many 20mph roads as they liked but that TVP would not be enforcing them, that would be down to councils (via fixed cameras) to do, as they (TVP) were not resourced to monitor so many low priority roads (or words to that effect).

@markbarrett8180 Год назад

so the same as it now then

@Stealth360stealth Год назад

thank goodness for a common sense approach from TVP. The idea of British driving being consistent is out the window. That was the whole point of a NSL and a 30mph limit for urban areas and later the 40mph limit for fast urban roads, to make things simple and easy to interpret. Now things are just all over the shop, narrow roads being NSL, with wide straight roads which should be at least 40mph being restricted to 30 or even 20mph in some crazy cases in Oxfordshire - no wonder the driving deaths are increasing

@gilesgreenaway5655 Год назад

F F for that!

@colinbooth531 Год назад

A local small town was recently changed from 30mph to 20mph by the council under objections from the Police. They argued that no accidents had been reported where speed was a contributing factor, and they would not be enforcing the 20mph limit. So I do 30.

@PsychoticEwok Год назад

I was in court for speeding in a 20 (I was doing 29) recently the road had 30 painted on it and the road had a mixture of 20 and 30 signs my case was dropped by the judge and since then the road now has 20 painted on it and all the 30 signs have been removed and I've had the points taken off my license

@Parallax33 5 месяцев назад

The illustration of people being killed at 20 and 30 suggests that those drivers do not slow down before impact

@johnhawkinshawkins1284 4 месяца назад

I'm a 'not very busy' car park attendant in north London. In a 20mph zone. I sit in my car park all day, with plenty of time on my hands to observe 90% of vehicle passing by and they're all going over 30 mph. No question, including police cars and some school transport; there's a police station just around the corner some 300M away. In addition there's about 90 moped/scooter delivery drivers going by, up and down. 60% have an indicator left on and 40% are touching their 'phones searching for the next drop. The 20mph limit is a joke, most peeps do not adhere to this. So what? The cops DGAS!

@AllenTaylor-lu9bu Год назад

I agree with the 20mph near schools (when occupied) and hospitals but this law is war on motorists. It is all about removing private cars off the road by restricting how far you are prepared to travel at 20mph and the beginning of the 15 minute Cities.

@johnnythefox1851 5 месяцев назад

Kids were taught to actually LOOK before crossing roads and wandering around, but we didn't have those mind boggling phones years ago.

@jo0ls Год назад

My local dual carriageway has a 40 limit, signposted. It has a camera. Everyone used to slow to 30 for the camera even though the limit is 40. But now they slow to 20, and the limit is still 40.

@davidhutchins5406 Год назад

Shows how terrible most drivers are.

@redf7209 Год назад

Sat navs, who looks at signposts these days?

@geepersoilyrag1884 Год назад

I said this in a lot of videos on this, as much as it pains me to say, the 20 limits have been reasonably well implemented. Its a pain with roads changing from 20 to 30 and back again as people just do 20 in the 30s. Also the sheer amount of signage that has gone up makes me think that someone made an awful lot of money from this little project!

@davidcolin6519 Год назад

I used to do a regular route in one of my past jobs where there were 15 changes of speed limit in less than 10km, with limits of 30, 50, 80 and 110kph all on the same road and with barely any visible reason for any of them, and it was an absolute nightmare. Part of the problem is that different authorities apply different rules. Information Overload is a real thing, and the UK used to be very good at keeping signage to only the necessary. That seems to have completely gone by the wayside these days. There doesn't appear to be any control on who puts up what sign, or even any limit to the number of signs. I am absolutely in favour of speed reducing measures, but the wanton use of every possible sign for every part of the road is just counter-productive.

@dh2032 11 месяцев назад

and the go from 20 in the 30s every minutes or so will make even more?

@davidcolin6519 11 месяцев назад

@@dh2032 Any chance you could post something that is comprehensible to a native English speaker? Does everybody have to think that everything that is introduced can only possibly be done to make money? If that is the case, why don't you let us all know how much you'll let your kids go for. The idea of having a slave might interest some of the UK's favourite allies, like Saudi Arabia. The right wing media really has done a proper job on British people's entire system of values. And every day I thank my past self for having left that septic isle.

@The_Irish_Volunteer 5 месяцев назад

Well implemented? With your money!! Anything which messes up people's lives and the economy is.

@The_Irish_Volunteer 5 месяцев назад

@@davidcolin6519 I agree, not just to make money but more so to control us.

@TheFurrry Год назад

It's pretty common for us here in Scotland, most housing estates/school zones have a twenties Plenty zone now, it's doesnt cause any issues that i have ever seen. It would cause issues on a main road with traffic passing all day.

@paulgriffiths531 Год назад

And there's the main point "most housing estates/school zones". - wales is generally making main roads 20 too and councils are not applying for enough exemptions

@gdonaldson26 Год назад

If I remember rightly, when it was introduced it was to only be in areas such as schools and residential roads for safety and to stop people using them as a rat run, and that it would never be applied to main roads as that would defeat the purpose. Fast forward almost 20 years and that's exactly what's happening: 20mph roads anywhere they can put them. Midlothian is now looking to expand the 20mph roads to as many places as they can based off their 'totally not-biased leading question' questionnaire. The point I suppose, is because some folks can't seem to stay near 30mph, so everybody gets shafted by it when it reduces to 20mph.

@everyonecancraft70 Год назад

Having 20 mph limits in housing estates is one thing but having them on EVERY road in a town is very different In most housing estates it is hard to do 2 miles or more within a 20 limit even if you are hopelessly lost. I can think of one place where you can drive at least a mile without seeing any buildings but because there are streetlights it is now 20mph. Very different from a housing estate. Driving through even a small town can now mean 4 or 5 miles of 20 mph limits. The new limit applies to any road with a certain spec of streetlights. It could be a numbered road such the A1104 or A494 not just Juniper Avenue. The exemption process will make life easier but it could take months for the effects of that to be felt.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

Main roads are in most cases higher. There is a map online with the exceptions are there are loads and loads of them. But it's certainly possible that there are others that they have missed that should be 30 and they will likely raise them in due course. Unfortunately there are some roads that are busy that you might consider to be a main road but that also have houses directly on them perhaps with shops etc as well. How do you deal with that situation? A road that a lot of people want to drive along doesn't magically stop having pedestrians. Ideally many of those drivers should find an alternative route on unrestricted roads. A well designed town should have a clear distinction between streets and arterial roads so that drivers can get where they are going without having to drive along streets at all until they get near their destination. Unfortunately towns and villages that grew up before traffic became a serious problem often don't achieve this. Safety railings and light controlled pedestrian crossings can help make arterial roads that also have a lot of pedestrian traffic safer without dropping he speed limit to 20. Hopefully the councils will install some of these and raise the speed limit on main roads to balance everyone's needs.

@kevgallacher Год назад

In these kind of areas 20mph is appropriate , the kind of streets in this areas aren't really safe to drive any faster. They are usually full of parked cars and are narrow and likely to have kids playing in the area. But on main roads and dual carriageways, 20mph seems artificially slow.

@howardosborne8647 Год назад

There is another issue here with regard to pedestrian safety and that is the high number of pedestrians and cyclists with ear phones in and listening to music etc whilst walking or cycling on the roads. I do feel this also needs addressing as part of pedestrian safety initiatives.

@gteaz Год назад

That problem applies to vehicles too. Listening to music whilst driving on the roads.

@valeriegrimshaw1365 Год назад

Don't forget all the foreigners used to a different flow...

@nighttrain1236 Год назад

@@gteaz Also being shut inside a well sound-proofed car; you can't hear much outside. Time for motorists to have the windows down by law :D

@areyouavinalaff Год назад

@@nighttrain1236 just do away with car windows all together, that'll solve a few things, and also fit cars with square wheels, that'll slow them all down.

@loyaltytoroyalty Год назад

@@areyouavinalaff 😂😂😂😂

@washburn8049 Год назад

Give a few more years and we will be employing someone to walk in front of the car with a flag.

@athelstan2 9 месяцев назад

This is absolutely nothing to do with safety whatsoever and every thing to do with control and generating obscene amounts of Cash 100%

@chrisc626 Год назад

I was visiting Wales the weekend of the change. On making the return journey to England on the Sunday(change day), it was a nightmare. Most locals completely disregarded the new limit whilst some others complied causing the most dangerous situation ever. At one point our small convoy of 20mph ers were being overtaken by 40ft container trucks.....in the pouring rain. visibility was so bad, I was just waiting to get rear ended. Maybe some small local rods are ok at 20mph, but most others should not be. Ridicules.

@rogerphelps9939 11 месяцев назад

The speeders should get points on their licenses. No excuse.

@Hewbuntu Год назад

How long will it be before motorists have to drive at 3mph with someone walking in front waving a red flag?

@benedictmoss3058 Год назад

Soon , I hope.

@hedydd2 Год назад

That is my policy and I’ve arranged for my wife to carry the flag while I constantly blare my car horn to warn potential fatal victims of my imminent arrival in their vicinity.

@Paul_Holmes Год назад

I think that if a speed limit is enforced to the exact MPH then all speedometers need to be 100% accurate.

@zebo-the-fat Год назад

As far as I know, all UK car spedo's read high when compared with the speed on a gps satnav (I assume the sat nav to be more accurate) If my car shows 40 mph, my sat nav shows 37 mph

@beardyface8492 Год назад

100% accurate can't be done, that's basic engineering, which is why speedometers are allowed to read up to 10% high, but not low at all, which is pretty easy to arrange when making & calibrating them. You can guarantee as a result that unless your speedometer shows you going over the limit, you won't be over it.

@paulgriffiths531 Год назад

tricky unless all speedos worked off a satnav idea because even if you speedo was 100% correct, then as the tyre wears , you will need more revolutions of the tyre to do the same distance, so your speedo becomes more and more inaccurate as the tyre wears

@beardyface8492 Год назад

@@paulgriffiths531 The increase in RPM of the tyres with wear results in the speedo reading high, not low, so what you just described is a complete non-issue.

@paulgriffiths531 Год назад

@@beardyface8492 you misunderstanding my point. I merely said that even if a speedo was accurate, then over time as the tyre wears , the speedo would become more and more inaccurate. Whether thats good or bad is a different matter and not what I was referring to

@acat6821 Год назад

Are the stats from 30 to 20mph fatals taken from speedzones or from impact speeds? As thats crucial

@LunaStarFire Год назад

impact speed

@Mark-px3rq Год назад

Yeah but when everyone is driving and texting at the same time, they are one in the same…

@garethdavies7450 Год назад

Here in Wales we should have had a comprehensive review of the speed limits e.g the A4049 has a speed limit of 60mph, however any attempt to do that speed would be suicidal, but the A465 a upgraded dual carriage way has a limit of 50mph..crazy..but that's the Labour government for you

@dickybannister5192 Год назад

why is it the "labour government". you think they just throw f*cking mug down and draw a circle around it? maybe they have, i dunno, advice about particular sections of road. i drove around cardiff quite a bit a few years ago. it was mental on the dual carriageways. i am not surprised at all to hear of some of the accidents that happen.

@philipcable437 Год назад

Beware of the statements starting with "It's for your own good" or "It's for safety".

@herrtomas6729 Год назад

There used to be an advertising initiative many years ago... "20 hurts; 30 kills"

@DougBrown-h1n Год назад

That was for cigarettes.

@herrtomas6729 Год назад

@@DougBrown-h1n no, it wasn’t. Even had street signs here. Also council has signs that say “30 is a limit, not a target” - people get naffed off if you drive below the limit…..

@MrJonboy Год назад

@@herrtomas6729 I hate that expression with a passion, it's also wrong to a certain extent, I don't want to come off as being rude but when did you pass your driving test? Serious question because in modern driving tests, for example, if you are in a 30mph zone and are doing 20mph on clear and open roads consistently, you will fail for use of speed, so actually that expression is just false.

@herrtomas6729 Год назад

@@MrJonboy nothing to do with when I passed my test… It’s what the councils here place on street signs. (North West) You can read it at eye level sitting on the lower deck of a bus!

@MrJonboy Год назад

@@herrtomas6729 Do you even have a driving license? I don't care what a council puts on a sign i'm talking about real life application in a driving test.

@naznomad635 Год назад

Driving in Wales like Steve Buscemi, one eye counting streetlights, the other on my speedo.

@Gooders478 Год назад

The 20MPH speed limit in Wales is an outrage. If man were to perambulate at a velocity exceeding 18MPH then his blood would surely congeal. They should reduce it to 15MPH immediately.

@GilesWendes Год назад

ANGRY PEOPLE IN LOCAL NEWSPAPERS.

@nighttrain1236 Год назад

Don't forget the man in front waving a flag.

@TootsMacTait Год назад

😂😂😂

@DarrenStarr Год назад

5mph. Then you won't even kill a fly and we can bring the while economy to a standstill.

@ianhill4585 Год назад

@@nighttrain1236That plan was scrapped on health and safety grounds, waving a flag about could be a danger, it could have an eye out.... 😊

@MR.TB67 Год назад

20 mph seed limit makes my blood boil and causes me nothing but road rage 🤦‍♂️😡😡😡

@jamesm875 Год назад

In Scotland the 20mph speed limits have been in force for years and the road death tolls have went up. Easily checked yourself so this reverts to a money grab.

@spiderbootsy Год назад

That’s not true. They are only in selected areas like town centres. Not everywhere. People don’t obey them and they are not enforced

@desdicadoric Год назад

I live in Scotland, the blanket 20 came in for c0v1d, because it doesn’t transmit under 20mph apparently. Back up to 30 now

@anishmahadeo5073 Год назад

Another possibility is the prevalence of SUVs which are both taller and heavier generally than hatch's or saloons thus more likely to kill you. Likewise, poorer and poorer visibility from larger and larger crash protection on cars

@alexstewart9747 Год назад

Some main roads in SW London have 20mph limits but many of the side roads with double parked cars all the way along them have 30mph limits. It doesn’t make much sense. The Mayor and Councils just dislike car drivers.

@bolllochead Год назад

Tufty and the Green Cross Code taught me road sense so I can safely cross a road with a 30 or even 40-mph speed limit.

@myword1000 Год назад

Not if there's a lot of traffic you can't. The faster the vehicles are going, the harder it is for pedestrians to cross safely.

@chrissansum Год назад

@@myword1000Playing frogger as a kid taught me how to deal with that scenario.

@fruitbat01 5 месяцев назад

@myworld100 - You seem to have missed the point that @bolochead was making. Believe it not, children used to be taught how to cross the road safely and where it was appropriate to do so. They took responsibility for their own safety and the decisions they made. Now we live in a world where people believe it is somebody else’s responsibility to keep them safe and take no responsibility for their own actions.

@a20axf 5 месяцев назад

@@myword1000Exactly why pedestrians crossings are used.

@myword1000 5 месяцев назад

@@a20axf There's often no Ped Crossing nearby.

@alexandersimpson3638 Год назад

My partners car doesn't go into cruise control below 30mph!

@quigglebert Год назад

18mph for mine, oddly specific

@alexandersimpson3638 Год назад

@@quigglebert my Merc is 25mph for cruise control.

@alexandersimpson3638 Год назад

@barryjones1483 it'd be nice to not keep looking at your speedometer, seriously! Not to mention this is about 20mph ,not 30mph! 🙄

@Ant86744 Год назад

I agree that areas require a reasonable speed in built up areas. The biggest issue you have recently excluding the ones speeding is that people are to engaged on there phones whether that is the person crossing the road or the driving. The amount of times I have come close to hitting someone because they started to cross without looking because they were on their phone is unreal. Luckily I have come to a screeching stop/ swerving because I was too close to stop. I think we need to do a reminder like the old hedgehog advert about stopping and looking.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

The government should pay for a new road crossing ad campaign on FB YT IG etc.

@kaikorzonek922 Год назад

You bring the risk to that pedestrian with your car so you should be responsible for it. What if there is someone that can't head or see you because of a disability should they be penalised for your privilege. If you have to come to a screeching stop then you were going too fast for the road and conditions. In any built up area you should be ready for something to happen.

@llahma69 Год назад

You will normally find deaf or blind people pay more attention than those with all there sense's, except common sense and thats not a disabiltiy. and if someone steps out five feet in front of you then even a 15 miles per hour you will screech to a halt, sounds like you dont drive much if at all. And as for bringing the risk to the pedestrian i know the change in the highway code makes predestrians blameless but if you walk into the road what would you expect to find there, Cars maybe. tIt would be nice if people stop trying to blame others for there own actions when it goes wrong. @@kaikorzonek922

@hfjtrytry9216 Год назад

@@kaikorzonek922couldnt have said it better myself. Honestly as a driver is sickens me just how entitled some people are. 20mph is more than enough to get you where you need to go

@nockianlifter661 Год назад

@@hfjtrytry9216A 20mph limit won’t alter bad driving, or speeding. Driver education and more stringent driving tests would help far more. I’m often driving far slower than 20mph in areas in response to increased hazards. The other option is to make urban areas far more pedestrian friendly by reducing the distinction between road and pavement so that it becomes a multi-use area. Get rid of a lot of the signage too as it’s become extremely distracting and often quite conflicting. There is a responsibility on all road users, including pedestrians to keep each other safe rather than seeing it always as a competitive arena.

@stuartjohnston1086 11 месяцев назад

Good point about the requirement for a traffic order. Our local council has a "no overtaking" sign on a local A road section. It's a yellow backed square sign with "no overtaking" written in black letters. Not a proper road sign and there is no traffic order. Completely unenforceable, so I ignore it and overtake when safe and legal to do so.

@sahhull Год назад

I live in a 20mph school zone. It's slowed most of the drivers down to 40mph. On a night it's a race track. We had a speed camera bike parked a while ago. I walked over and asked him how many he'd got. He took a look and said. He had got 320 going over 30mph in 2 hours! He wasn't fining anyone he was just checking speeds to see if the 20 zone worked.

@davidcolin6519 Год назад

if you don't like it, DO something!

@sahhull Год назад

@@davidcolin6519 doing something without stating what that something is, is the same as nothing.

@allanhughes7859 Год назад

well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@sahhull

@malthomas987 Год назад

On a night it's a race track. Yes out side school hours. show your evidence for "race track" are they racing? in which case its against the road traffic act. or just a bit fast for you. a little noisy perhaps?

@neilcampbell2222 Год назад

@barryjones1483Nothing. In the UK fines aren't kept locally, they go to general government income. Keeping too much locally gives a perverse incentive to abuse the system.

@nickjnow1 Год назад

I like Rule 125 of the highway code in short drive to the conditions and layout of the road. It accepts that there is great variation and one should use common sense when driving. It treats drivers like adults and does not try to micro manage peoples behaviour. Though out the years 30mph has been the accepted speed in built up areas and this has worked and worked well.

@rar497 Год назад

See my ('rar497') comment in this thread about the "85th percentile rule" for the rational democratic & scientific argument for setting a speed limit.

@nickjnow1 Год назад

@@rar497 I've just read your post, it was facinating and advise anyone else who reads this to do the same.

@p75369 Год назад

It sounds like you are saying 125 give you permission to keep doing 30? 125 starts with "the speed limit is the absolute maximum", it exists to say that you should slow down even if the speed limit didn't make you.

@rogerphelps9939 11 месяцев назад

Not true. Most road deaths occur in built up areas with 30mph speed limits.

@nickjnow1 11 месяцев назад

@@rogerphelps9939 Can you provide the source of your statistics.

@Mucklegipe Год назад

In my day the likes of the ‘Tufty Club and the green cross code’ taught youngsters predominantly how to cross the road safely, I personally have experienced a eighteen year old just walking off the pavement in front of me, having failed to look to see if it was safe to do so. I think to some extent the onus has shifted to the motorists to keep errant pedestrians and cyclists safe, instead for them to take any responsibility for their own safety. Add to that it seems to be that some have forgotten just what the purpose the streets and roads are for, the movement of vehicles, which should be crossed if safe to do so, there is even mechanisms in place called crossings to facilitate this.

@edwardwilliams9185 Год назад

Yes, the onus is on drivers as they are traveling in a large metal object. Streets were for people, not vehicles, for hundreds of years until the early 1900s when we started reallocating space to the private vehicle. There is also an important distinction to be made between streets, meant for people, and roads, meant for moving vehicles; 20mph limits are used in streets where people should be able to move freely about without being killed or maimed.

@hedgehog1965uk Год назад

@@edwardwilliams9185 No, pavements are for people and roads are for vehicles. Whatever happened to LOOKING before crossing the road and NOT walking in front of a moving vehicle? We pander to idiots so much these days, rather than making people responsible for their own safety. I am so sick of people just walking out in front of my car and expecting me to hit the brakes. I don't even slow down. They either get out of the way or they get hit, it's up to them and I know who will suffer worse. Guess which they decide to do when they realise I'm not slowing down for them?

@alan2804 11 месяцев назад

Best you hand your driving license in.@@hedgehog1965uk

@The_Irish_Volunteer 11 месяцев назад

@@edwardwilliams9185 So someone walks out from behind a large truck a few feet from a vehicle traveling at 20mph head buried in a phone, what do you think the result will be? Times have changed mate. The guy walking in front of a motor vehicle with a red flag have long since passed.

@The_Irish_Volunteer 11 месяцев назад

@@hedgehog1965uk I agree with you in part, but the onus is on both really. The person who will come off worse should be the one who should be far more vigilant, if not for that reason alone. No point arguing about fault when you are lying in a hospital bed or worse. Too many people's heads stuck into phones these days. You should always slow down if you have the opportunity when someone is crossing your path. It's called safe and sensible driving, otherwise it can be construed as driving with out due care and attention or without reasonable consideration.

@kawker Год назад

In Wales they are not able to enforceable at the moment because there legally cannot - but the Police will pull you over to "talk" to you. This info has come directly from South Wales police

@paulcawley6330 Год назад

I live in South Wales and it is a nightmare. My fuel economy has fallen by circa 25%. 80% of drivers are ignoring new limits, drivers are less courteous, incidents of dangerous driving have increased, more drivers seem to be using mobile phones whilst driving and I'd argue it is less safe as I'm constantly being overtaken by electric bikes delivering food orders. It will damage the Welsh economy as businesses (including health workers) are now making fewer calls.

@juliandarch9278 Год назад

You used to be arrested for driving in London at 20 miles an hour, it was called kerb crawling 😂

@ReclusiveDuck Год назад

I live in Wales and I drive for a living and from my experience it's a joke. While in theory it may be legally enforceable, in practical terms it simply isn't. 20mph is simply too slow for any prolonged period and it shows, very few people are taking any notice, including police etc. They can't fine every single driver, it'll cause and uproar, and it's already deeply unpopular as it is. I live in rural Wales and just this very morning there is a small protest happening against the 20mph limit 300yds from my front door. As for the safety statistics, where is it going to end? If we follow the logic of the Welsh government then eventually we'll get to the point where no one can drive at all, that way we can ensure no one ever has a road accident of any kind. When I was a child we were taught the Green Cross Code and there were short public information films on the TV, is that even a thing anymore? There seems to be a prevailing attitude that any accident involving a car and a pedestrian then it's always the driver who is at fault and that drivers need educating....Really? How about educating pedestrians too? From my experience pedestrians are just as dangerous as some drivers. I've lost count of the number of times someone has walked out in front of me with their head buried in a smartphone.

@rar497 Год назад

See my ('rar497') comment in this thread about the "85th percentile rule" for the rational democratic & scientific argument for setting a speed limit.

@ReclusiveDuck Год назад

@@rar497 A perfectly common sense rule and explains why very few people complain about 20mph limits past schools or in some parts of council estates. If you know you're in an area where there's a reasonable chance that a young child, who can't be expected to fully understand the danger, could step out into the road, guess what? We naturally drive slower! But we now live in a time where policy makers know best (how we got to that point I'll never know!) and we need guidance for everything. Yet at the same time drivers are ALWAYS responsible for our actions yet cyclists and pedestrians much less so. I don't see any legislation coming against cyclists wearing headphones.

@bobrice3957 Год назад

That was before the lunatics took over the Highway Code. When people had common sense and the Highway Code reflected that.

@rainbowevil Год назад

Would love to see how all of you would react to losing a child to being hit by a car. I’m sure you’d have nothing to say on reducing speeds. Conservatives man, don’t care about anything unless it directly affects them.

@ReclusiveDuck Год назад

@@rainbowevil When I was 14 my mother was nearly killed on her moped due to a collision with a Mini......In a 30mph zone (B4246 in Abersychan to be precise). The only reason she survived was because of an off-duty medic who was following her and managed to control the bleeding. Oh, and just for good measure I actually passed the accident on my way home on the school bus but didn't know at the time it was my mother. Found that out an hour later when the police came knocking at the door. Six years of pure hell and multiple surgeries and cases in the high court followed. The reason for the accident? the idiot driver who pulled out in front of her without looking. *Observation* is what needs to be drummed into drivers, pedestrians and definitely cyclists. Still Einstein, I suppose none of this affects me does it?

@phreffable Год назад

Let’s be honest, these limits have nothing to do with the number of accidents but with the number of fines the local authorities can squeeze from motorists.

@Sp0tthed0gt Год назад

I've noticed round my way that a couple of roads have 20mph signs at the entrances but no repeater signs in between, the absence of which makes the speed limit 30mph as they do have street lighting.

@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад

Err, no it doesn't. The Traffic Signs Manual shows that within 20mph zones repeater signs are not required.

@hfjtrytry9216 Год назад

@@neiloflongbeck5705 I honestly dont know how some of these people passed their test. How did the OP not know this?

@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад

@@hfjtrytry9216 most people (and I include myself in that group) have areas of ignorance.

@Valen-mh9fh Год назад

How do you know when the zone starts and ends?

@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад

@@Valen-mh9fhin most locations a circular sign with a red boundary with the number 20 at the start and a similar sign with a 30 in it. In some ,o nation such as outside schools where the reduced limit is in effect then the starting point with have have an additional plate giving details of when the lower speed limit is in effect. It's all set out in the Traffic Signs Manual (details of the correct signage to use) and the Highway Code (details of the correct actions to take for all road users).

@DavidRichards-z2k Год назад

I’ve been out on my motorbike all over north Wales the last few days, the signage is all to pot, 30mph signs & road markings but 20mph road due to the distance between lamp posts, 20mph signage with 30mph road markings & …. Flashing 30mph screens & everything in between!! There will be many many drivers who won’t even be aware that there has been a change in the law, foreign drivers for instance, other drivers who may be aware of it but don’t know the rule about the distance between lamp posts etc, so are most likely going to follow the signage ! The worlds gone mad 😂

@lh4394 Год назад

Thank you. I know i requested this a while ago being in Wales so thank you for that

@petersaundersuk Год назад

I had my first ever speeding ticket after 35 years of driving for 22 in a 20 zone. As I understand it, car manufacturers do not want to be sued for saying they are under representing your speed, so when you are driving at 20mph, the speedo will show 21-22mph. At lower speeds this effectively kills off the % leeway, I think. So, if I was driving at 22mph, my car was telling me that I was driving at 23 or 24mph. If I had seen the speed limit signs, I should have known that I was driving too fast.

@si1208 Год назад

Just a step in the direction of a total ban on private vehicles.

@davidhutchins5406 Год назад

Yawn.

@antitheist2000 Год назад

@@davidhutchins5406it is in the welsh assemblies literature to reduce private vehicle ownership !

@doriancreber7139 Год назад

It's chaos in most places in Wales... for example: 20mph sign then 30 yards down the road 30 circle on the road. Also 30 mph signs spray painted over with an "X" and still readable as 30 mph.

@mfd70 Год назад

One of the problems with the "blanket" "non-blanket" 20mph rules in Wales is there are just so many changes of speed limit, one one road I use there used to be two speed limits which changed six times in about nine miles. Now there are five different speed limits which change 18 (eighteen) times in the same distance. There is no consistency to limits as local councils can make changes and peoples driving habits are so poor they do not read the posted speed so end up doing 20 or even as low as 10-15 everywhere. There was no demand for this, it was imposed on us and now the assembly say it will never be reversed and if people continue to complain they will impose lower speed limits in more places. Welcome to Wales, even the clocks go backwards.

@everyonecancraft70 Год назад

Only 6 speed limit changes in 9 miles! Last time I tried counting the speed limits between my house and my parents it was 10 or an average of 1 every mile. This with about 2 miles being unrestricted. It was 1 black 20 and 1 red 20. It is now 3 red 20. There are so many changes I need a passenger to take notes as trying to count how many 20 30 40 and 50 signs there is so difficult. How am I supposed to keep to a constantly changing speed limit?

@welsh5546 Год назад

one road by me goes from 20 to 40 to 60 to 20. lots of drivers slamming on brakes going from 60 to 20

@lmaoroflcopter 11 месяцев назад

It was listed word for word within labour's manifesto. If there was no demand for it, how are labour in power? If you have issues with speed limits on your local roads, complain to the body that sets them - your local council.

@lmaoroflcopter 11 месяцев назад

@@welsh5546Why? Seems like a failure to anticipate or read the road going on there. One trip through and you'd think drivers would then be aware there was a speed limit change. Though coming off of a dual carriage way we used to go from 70 to 0 within a few hundred metres due to it being a roundabout at the bottom of a sliproad. 60 to 20 seems less arduous a change than that.

@robertfoster6070 8 месяцев назад

Many years ago an old electric clock used to go backwards. A scientific person claimed the clock could never go backwards until it was noticed by an ordinary person going backwards. So if the clocks go backwards in Wales then as time rolls back everyone will become younger and 30mph will return.

@rjones2213 Год назад

I'm Welsh and live in Wales, the 20MPH is killing our economy, I was overtaken the other day by an old woman walking

@pajownik Год назад

If we eliminate car travel altogether, nobody will be killed by them. What a progress that would be!

@rainbowevil Год назад

This is true, and also pollution would be greatly reduced! Unfortunately it won’t happen, but we can demand better public transport and cycling/walking infrastructure in the meantime :)

@hugodrax71 Год назад

And after the next plane crash, we'll ban flying.

@rainbowevil Год назад

@dougaldouglas8842 let’s continue to move away from that awful time then, the more pollution we remove, the better for all of us.

@derthephoto2882 Год назад

A clue in your article - no car accidents if cars were banned. There will still be accidents and deaths though. Cyclists, e-scooters, invalid transportation etc will still be around and in increasing numbers. Accidents and deaths will rise. The extra downfall is none of the above have insurance, identification etc and the laws of the road do not apply to them. It will be like death race 2000, sorry death race 2035,!

@pajownik Год назад

@@rainbowevil By eliminating population pollution would be reduced to zero. Is that your "perfect" future?

@bearsey26 Год назад

When I was a kid, there was a lesson that dedicated itself to road safety, called ‘The Tufty Club’ and they taught you the rules and regulations, showed you how to cross a road and so on, basically installing a bit of common sense for primary school kids, whatever happened to that?? 😳

@levelcrossing150 Год назад

Now motorists are looking at the speedo more instead of looking at the road which can't be good. 10% of 20mph is only 2 miles per hour if any error is allowed. I'm in second and third gear so much more now, not good for my car or the pollution.

@beardyface8492 Год назад

And when you were a new driver you looked way more to keep to 30. It's purely & simply a case of getting used to judging 20, exactly like you're used to judging 30. The pollution argument isn't as clear cut as you seem to think either, producing torque is much more of an issue for burning fuel than simple RPM, if there's a difference between 20 & 30 it'll likely be small, & could be either direction depending on the specific car & other factors, a very significant one being air resistance, which varies with the square of the speed.

@waynerosie Год назад

Would be interesting to know how many people are killed when hit by a car in a 30mph zone compared to in a 20mph zone (as opposed to at 30mph v at 20mph).

@pup6728 Год назад

I doubt there's any way of finding it out exactly - they normally record KSI stats based on the limit in place, not the actual speeds. No driver hitting someone in a 20 will happily admit that they were doing 30.

@KevinHorrox Год назад

The problem with this, is when recording for statistics, information is anonymous, meaning locations aren't involved. This helps remove possible biases. However, here is a RoSPA report from 2017 highlighting some important statistics Namely, that in 20mph limits, the fatality rate is ~1.5%, while in 30mph limits it's 8%. This is a 430% increase in fatalities, to save neglible amounts of time www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/drivers/20-mph-zone-factsheet.pdf

@dickybannister5192 Год назад

from a qualitative point of view the "its 30 for a reason" advert from 25 years ago highlights the problem with any kind of direct quantitative question like this: it is literally meaningless. the question can only be answered by statistics. and, anyway, why is "death" the key determinant? how did we end up with people "thinking" such nonsense is how to address the question

@brianlopez8855 Год назад

Perhaps Members of the Welsh Sennedd would like to volunteer to test it ?

@jong3461 Год назад

Can remember the TV adverts that stated all the risks of each speed to try and get people to think about chirldem while driving in built up areas.

@stevenhodgson834 Год назад

Love how your videos always bring out the cranks. Great work, keep it up!

@Jack-bs6zb Год назад

Almost none will be killed in a 5mph collision. We already know the slower is the safer. The safest of all would be if we stayed at home and that’s likely the underlying purpose of making driving a miserable experience. Only unenforceability of oppressive diktats will restore balanced sense. What’s good for ULEZ signage will be applicable here.

@wolvoman1 Год назад

BUT, if the car had been travelling at 30mph instead of 20mph the pedestrian wouldn't have been hit, because the vehicle would have already driven past earlier !!!

@amyp66 Год назад

😂

@operatorhelper Год назад

We have those outrageous 20 mph speed limits here. But on roads with horseshoe bends, a lot of snaking of roads, they post it as 40 mph. And in no way a safe speed limit. But we have lots of drivers here that don’t follow the rules of law for school buses , where clearly it’s posted as a school zone.

@mijimonmaster Год назад

If only the government would put so much time, effort and rescouces into catching actual criminals as they do with motorists. Then again, they dont steal as much revenue doing that

@benedictmoss3058 Год назад

A speeder is a criminal.

@mijimonmaster Год назад

@@benedictmoss3058 Sigh. Read it again, and notice "as much effort". Then go and look at the statistics that show that only 3 - 5% of burglaries are solved. How many times have you unintentionally strayed over the speed limit? That make you a criminal?

@benedictmoss3058 Год назад

I was nearly murdered by a speeding idiot 2 days ago,this is personal

@mijimonmaster Год назад

@@benedictmoss3058 And i've had way too many close calls with people doing the limit when riding my bike.

@benedictmoss3058 Год назад

@@mijimonmaster you don't know when to shut up do you?

@raymondjennings6817 Год назад

I have noticed in London in the 20 mph zones people just walk out because they know you can stop in time and when one goes they all go

@welshpete12 Год назад

Living in Wales I find it very frustrating . I have noticed that most drivers ignore it. Except when the Old Bill are around of course !

@LA-ph6hh Год назад

On the driving test, you could be failed for "not making due progress" or driving too slow

@terryhayward7905 Год назад

If everyone in the 20mph zone starts driving at a maximum of 10mph to stay well within the speed limit, the roads in the town centres will become parking lots. That should show how insane the new limits are very quickly.

@chatboy25 Год назад

GoSafe in Wales have said they will not prosecute a driver in a 20 mph area, if they are travelling no more than 20 mph plus 10% plus 4 miles per hour - ie. 26 mph.

@paulgriffiths531 Год назад

for now (I think I saw 6 months somewhere)

@BrianPseivaD Год назад

I live in Wales, it’s so confusing, even the police cars are ignoring the 20 limit, if they met us half way and said 25mph is the new limit, that would be more acceptable and tenable!

@RussellDeacon Год назад

The science shows dramatic reduction in death and injury at 20.

@MrEdrftgyuji Год назад

@RussellDeacon Science also says that 66 million people die every second from made up statistics.

@ianbrown9082 Год назад

I'm in Surrey and i've seen the Police even ignore the 30mph limits (and they are definately NOT on an emergency call because they speed in residential/school areas and I catch them up stting at the next at red traffic light or junction) The Police are a law unto themselves

@radweld Год назад

@@RussellDeacon If you're stupid enough to stand in the middle of a busy road, would you rather be hit by a double decker buss at 20 or a smart car at 30? I guarantee one will hurt more than the other.

@markmason2616 Год назад

Acceptable to whom?

@davidioanhedges Год назад

The only issue I can see is if painted on the road and/or a sign still says 30, but the road is actually 20 due to this new general legislation, the police have said they will be understanding and are unlikely to enforce until the signs are updated

@MechaUsagi Год назад

If there's a sign that say 30, and you are doing 28, that can't be illegal.

@pinkyn0se Год назад

Painted road speed signs don't count as they don't have a red border. You follow the signs that are circular with a red border.

@RogerC596 Год назад

Irrespective of the legalities and/or safety aspect in Wales the government is acting in a dictatorial manner. The limits are totally confusing, in places they are absolutely ridiculous and essentially unwanted by the general public. It does nothing to ease traffic flow or indeed add to road safety in fact it is counter productive.

@beardyface8492 Год назад

What's dictatorial about putting a measure in your manifesto, getting elected, & then doing what you said you'd do if elected? Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that exactly how democracy is supposed to work? There were other options on the ballot paper, but the majority chose this.

@RogerC596 Год назад

@@beardyface8492 It was 'hidden' in the small print and OK smart arse do you read every word in contracts you sign? When the announcement came based on lies and falsehoods and failed trial areas 'the people' made it clear it was not wanted. It is costly in so many ways and is already impacting on the quality of life for thousands of people in a negative way.

@beardyface8492 Год назад

@@RogerC596 Hardly "hidden", I found it easy enough, & I'm not even a Welsh voter. Right there as it's own bullet point, both Labour & Plaid manifestoes. Shows up with either if you just leaf through skimming them. Most people don't bother looking, just vote for the donkey with the red rosette. Their own fault, not even like the opposition parties weren't warning them either, but same tribalism stops people listening if the party has the wrong colour rosettes. Maybe they'll look NOW instead of voting blindly. One can hope.

@lmaoroflcopter 11 месяцев назад

@@RogerC596hidden in the small print? You mean it was there, written in full within the main text of their manifesto? Like I get it if you don't like labour you don't like labour but man alive you can't bloody claim its in the small print when its plain as bloody day in the middle of the damn page.

@RogerC596 11 месяцев назад

Take a breath .....your defence of Dictator Drakeford clearly affects your reasoning. If you were inclined to read the whole manifesto then you are likely one of a small minority who did so. Most people who bother to vote accept the canvassers and mouthpieces at face value because they/we have a degree of trust which has clearly been shown to be misplaced and handed power to a dictatorship.

@morry27jd24 Год назад

I’m from Scotland where 20 has been in use for some time, at least in the south east and borders. What’s happened effectively is people who drove at 35 in a 30 now drive at 25 in a 20 etc.

@TheSpacecraftX Год назад

I’m same as you in Scotland. It has made cycling feel safer. Because the speeding people are now coming by at 30 or less as opposed to 5 or more over. anecdotally also encourages less rushing to get to lights as they change. But cyclist safety is not a popular cause in most online spaces.

@julzb7165 Год назад

Highlands c*ntcil had done recently to appease cyclists without any consideration for anyone else. This is going to make drivers less considerate towards cyclists and potentially cause an accident. We've spent millions on cyle paths that the self entitled prats on two wheels don't bother to use.

@philspencelayh5464 Год назад

Speed limits aren't really enforceable without the publics co-operation. When I'm driving at the speed limit, be it 20,30 or 70 there is likely to be someone close to my tailgate so I'm guessing there won't be a lot of co-operation.

@happydog3422 Год назад

Where I live there is no police presence at all, there is only one speed camera and they only turn up from the next town when something big enough happens. We don't live in a tiny village it's a big seaside town.

@dazlock4491 Год назад

Remember Circle signs give ORDERs that are legally bound Triangular signs give WARNINGS Rectangular signs give INFORMATION So if the speed is in a rectangular sign usually without the red line, then it is advisory such as on a sharp turn they may suggest you go down to 20mph in a 60mph zone. However, if you have an accident and you were faster than 20mph then this could be used in conjunction with other factors to determine your liability!

@kingbourbon8618 Год назад

Still need a TMO to make them enforceable.

@cyph3r76 Год назад

There’s loads of 20mph zones where I live. Nobody sticks to them, not even busses.

@Abdullah97484 Год назад

This is sadly another case of the UK anti-motorist movement. As a driver, having to constantly worry about if you are going over and if you are going to get flashed contributes to the amount of incidents we have. It's just a nightmare, just like those new smart motorways, which are now proven to increase deaths.

@hedydd2 Год назад

The ridiculous proliferation of signs on our roads is a dangerous disgrace. For people not accustomed to some roads there is an information overload that is as distracting and confusing as any device in the car for which you could be fined for using. It is so bad in some places that these alone cause so much of a hazard that they justify the 20mph limit. Cut 70% of them down and simplify and make street information once again clear for all.

@ianhill4585 Год назад

That's the drawback for "them", clearer signage won't trip you up and entrap you so much, leading to points and fines. It's all geared to get their hands on your money for fines and tot up points for a driving ban.

@chriswharrier3571 Год назад

I live in a 20mph area near a school. In my opinion, it's not slowed down the traffic, it's the same with all the parking restrictions the council added they are ignored as nobody seems bothered to enforce either.

@anishmahadeo5073 Год назад

Anti motorist? Our whole country bends over backwards for cars, so much space is taken up by roads and infrastructure designed for cars. We are highly privileged some people have no choice but to walk. We might have to worry about going over the limit but peds or cyclists have to worry about being crushed. I'm a car enthusiast through and through but I disagree that the govt hates motorists

@edj4833 Год назад

There is no war in the motorist. We are the country with one of the poorest public transport systems in Europe and one of the poorest for bike infrastructure. It's long been a war on getting around anywhere except by car.

@chargeriderepeat7024 Год назад

I got three points and. 100 quid fine for 28 in a 20, I was assured by the copper who radared me that I would get a warning in the post. The whole thing was completely amateurish. I received three confusing letters that all contradicted each other, then a final last chance warning for court. Then another one asking me to send my licence in with the offence written on a piece of paper in the envelope.

@pawelnotts Год назад

While it's true what research shows about speed and fatalities it's important to remember that for a pedestrian to be hit at 30mph they would have had to barged in right in front of a car doing 30mph and not giving the driver a chance to brake, or driver was distracted and didn't see the pedestrian entering, or driver was doing more than 30mph and slowed down to 30 at the moment of impact. So while reducing the speed to 20 does address some of the above I think that majority of the time the impact would take place at less than 30mph even if no 20mph limit existed, if that makes sense? I just want to stress out that education of pedestrians and drivers alike should play a major role here, especially younger ones. People need to be aware of the dangers of being hit by a car. All in all I'm not in favour of blanket 20 in all built up areas. Schools and tight streets only should be enough.

@rogerphelps9939 11 месяцев назад

It is still the case that most fatalities occur in areas with 30mph speed limits. Reducing the speed limit to 20mph should result in fewer fatalities.

@pawelnotts 11 месяцев назад

@@rogerphelps9939 so should education. Not talking about going full Darwin and let people die but at the end of the day it's your responsibility to look after your life and wellbeing.

@rogerphelps9939 11 месяцев назад

Of course it is but nevertheless cars kill people and slower cars kill a lot fewer people. It is far from always that it is the pedestrian's fault anyway.@@pawelnotts

@pawelnotts 11 месяцев назад

@@rogerphelps9939 while I don't disagree with you I just looked at the stats and it appears that only 360-450 pedestrians die on the roads each year. Obviously their families would hate me for saying this but from a purely statistical angle those numbers are almost insignificant compared to the number of cars on our roads. I would say that 30 is safe enough as it is with 20 being a common sense middle ground when imposed around schools and very tight local streets with limited visibility (many parked cars etc).

@valeriegrimshaw1365 Год назад

There are speed cameras. My relative is an HGV driver and was doing 24mph in a lorry at 3am and got 3 points and a fine as she did the awareness course in her car 2 years and 10 months ago and she was 1 mph over the boundary of 10% plus 1.

@ifax1245 Год назад

This "10% +1 is a myth...

@rthompson938 Год назад

Do Authorities really think that we are just plain dumb and need to be controlled in all ways possible. I thought the Chinese had it bad 😳

@desdicadoric Год назад

Chinese system coming our way soon

@TheRip72 Год назад

Collectively we are plain dumb. Surely you learned that in the pandemic?

@rosemarydudley9954 Год назад

WALES NEED A GROUP OF BLADE RUNNERS ... PAINT OVER THE 20 SIGNS AND REMOVE (HOWEVER NEC.) CAMERAS.

@joeds3775 Год назад

you certainly are that dumb.

@brianlopez8855 Год назад

We forget about Kinetic Energy 1/2 MV2. Where M is the mass of the moving object and V is the velocity. Speed is much more significant than vehicle weight regarding energy. At 20 mph its 20x20 = 400 units. At 30mph its 30x30 = 900 units (more than twice as much). At 40mph - 1600 units or 4 times the energy than at 20mph.

@lavrentievv Год назад

You know what's safer than 20mph? 2mph 🙌 #StaySafe #StayAtHome #LockdownForever

@savinggrace70 Год назад

Living in Wales has become unbearable! Please can you say if there is a way to hold the Welsh Assembly to account. We are currently holding various protests, so far no-one can say if there is a mechanism that the public can pull to challenge the assembly. There is also a problem with policing in Carmarthenshire, there is something very sinister going on and the Welsh are feeling persecuted. The people of Wales would appreciate any information that can be used to stop the further decline of this country.

@mikewade777 Год назад

What an utter load of ballsocks!. The people of Wales also don't want to stop this massive improvement to residential safety.

@savinggrace70 Год назад

@@mikewade777 You must be the only one, and have obviously got your head stuck in your underpants and your vision has been affected! The Welsh have had enough of Snakeford and his cronies.

@HarshrealistUK Год назад

I was having difficulty taking off at Caernorfon airport following the introduction of a 20 zone on runway 25. Now waiting for a 40 knot headwind.

@racingsnake9425 5 месяцев назад

Great content, thanks for taking the time. As someone who lives in Wales, I do have a question if you have the time to answer? As you're probably aware there is some resentment towards the 20mph limit in Wales, and that resentment has manifested itself in Wales' own version of the blade runners (though a 'little' less destructive). Quite a lot of the 20mph signs are having the number 2 sprayed over with black paint. My question is - is it still enforceable in that zone if the sign where you enter it isn't clearly identifiable? Many thanks.

@AnnFBug Год назад

I live in Ed Davey land, so of course we have to move into this ahead of the pack; and car banning signs are appearing all around me as well, on the side roads. But I live on one of the few 30mph roads in the borough, and if I drive off to the adjoining county, I don't ever have to restrict my speedometer to 20mph. As that is the direction I most frequently use, I find I am already well into the 20mph zone before I notice any signage and just drive normally, for a bit. I could easily get fined for unintentionally breaking the new limit. But I guess that will be fine with the authorities - more dosh for them to spend on things of which I do not approve! Btw, Ed now says he disapproves of ULEZ. A more obvious example of insincere electioneering I could not hope to find.

@MGX93dot 28 дней назад

i visited wales in march 2024 and all the locals got quite angry at me for doing 20 in a 20. i wasnt willing to risk a speeding ticket (fair few cameras where i went in the south) and just plodded along. many locals would speed past me when they could, of course knowing where the cameras were

@everyonecancraft70 Год назад

There were roads in test areas that were changed back to 30 with permission. They have now been changed back to 20 mph until such time that the new procedure for exemption has been completed. There are expected to be 15 yes FIFTEEN miles of exempted roads in the whole of Flintshire when they get through the exemption process. They have published a map of where these are going to be. One road I thought was going to be exempted as of Thursday 5th October had not been changed back to 30mph. That was a traffic bottleneck at 30mph but now it has only got worse. One thing that has happened is that those politicians who fear losing their seats with this change have got together to try and save themselves by trying to push for more exemptions. Well, they cannot say they disagree but they can minimise its impact.

@lesigh1749 Год назад

Just get a pony and trap and ride that to Tesco. That is where they are heading with this.

@richrdlewis6278 Год назад

I will never comply with the 20mph speed limit, i ride a bike!

@veryhappychappy12 Год назад

Didn't take long for Drakeys influencers to arrive with their snide passive aggressive comment. This 'law' alongside a host of others has done the labour party damage.

@eagle_and_the_dragon Год назад

Good. The Uniparty needs to be destroyed.

@veryhappychappy12 Год назад

@@eagle_and_the_dragonSpot on😁.

@alan2804 11 месяцев назад

Better to stick to facts rather than get involved in politics

@stephenbourne4872 Год назад

They have 20 mph speed limits in Oxford. First time I did it I was overtaken by a bus.

@KevinThomas-bv8uj Год назад

Thank you for taken time to research this outrageous law, how do we here in north wales fight to get mr Drakeford fired or to resign.

@KevinHorrox Год назад

You understand, he isn't running in the next election - and change of leadership won't change this policy?

@davebrown6552 Год назад

20mph limits increase pollution, any time a vehicle is not is top gear the engine has to go round more times for every meter moved. Engines not operating in their designed power range will also not be running at their most efficient which burns more fuel. People driving slowly become less attentive and far more easily distracted, an F1 driver does not spend much time looking at the flowers at the side of the track. Driving faster increases your focus on what is in front.

@Malpriorvids Год назад

Anyone else think there’s a legitimate correlation between those in favour of lower speed limits and the number of Covid booster shots they’ve received?

@richnorris1061 Год назад

Sheep will follow the herd 👍🏻

@hfjtrytry9216 Год назад

@@richnorris1061 do you work for a company? then you are also a sheep. Do you pay taxex? youre a sheep, listen to mainstream music? well youre a sheep.

@chrislongstay Год назад

Here in Swansea most of the signs have just been sprayed, graffiti-like, with grey paint.

@markdavies794 Год назад

Is there wording in the law that says when a speed limit has been put in place, sufficient signage has to tell the road user when the speed limit has finished? I see loads of 20mph signs near schools (which is fair enough) but they never have a sign to say the 20mph limit has ended.

@archivist17 Год назад

You need your eyes testing?

@KevinHorrox Год назад

The speed limit changes when you come across a new speed limit sign

@markdavies794 Год назад

@@KevinHorrox And that is what I try to follow but the local council put up a 20mph sign then the next sign is a 30mph some 4 miles later. If you turn around to exit the 30mph limit, there is a national speed limit sign so at some point after the 20mph it goes to the national speed limit but nobody knows what point that is.

@ashleybrampton1732 Год назад

I live in Corby Northamptonshire , half the town has a 20 mph limit and the other half is 30 and been like it for a few years now . The North side (20 mph ) is full of speed humps in nearly every street and a real nightmare to keep clear of snow because they can’t be ploughed effectively . There was a fuss when it was introduced but it’s like most things you get used to it in time ..

@K1lostream Год назад

When I was little, they reduced road deaths by teaching children the green cross code, now they want to make cars static objects instead. I hope the people of Wales rebel against this nonsense - thank goodness (and I can’t believe I’m saying this) Rishi has taken the appropriate stance in England. PS fsck spending my tourist-money in Wales from now on (and I liked Wales - been mountain biking in the Afan forest many a time).

@davidhutchins5406 Год назад

Of course knowing and adhering to the green cross code makes you immune to being hit by a car. Grow up.

@jamesdewitt84 Год назад

No they didn't. They tried to, it didn't work. Besides the whole approach of trying to teach the children how to not be killed rather than teaching people not to kill children JUST so you can drive slightly faster in built up areas is indefensible.

@retro2vr Год назад

Well we don't want you here if you think a slight inconvenience to you is worse than potentially killing a kid. This WILL save lives. That's all that matters.

@vapour80 Год назад

@@davidhutchins5406 what a great point you make by saying nothing while trying to make the other person out to be the child... well done

@markbarrett8180 Год назад

IF you think 20mp is 'static' perhaps you'll take part in a little experiment. You just stand there have a 2 ton metal object propelled at you at 20mph. IF as you claim it's static then you'll be fine. IT's no big deal travelling a little more slowly - as a tourist you'll see more