ARE 250W EBIKES POWERFUL ENOUGH AROUND TOWN??!!

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@GlaucusBlue 3 года назад

For most people, it's enough, but this is where I hate such rules. Not everyone is normal and not every city is flat. I started of morbidly obese at beginning of 2020 and live in a very hilly city, when I started I needed all 750w to get up hills. Now lost 5 stone (only halfway) and get up the same hills using min setting which is around 80w and just placed an order for a new none ebike. Although diet has played a massive part, cycling to work every day has also been very important for the weight loss, and what I was doing was technically illegal. Same for disabled people, or people recovering from injury etc. Why limit power, they limit speed anyway(also to low, 20 or 25 would be more reasonable) and if they really wanted to limit acceleration. Let alone their aim for co2 reduction, they should be pushing bikes, bike lanes and anything to make commuting to work by alternatives to car as easy as possible. This country is far to over regulated on some things.

@SKBKER 3 года назад

Not for most people . Most people don't know much about them and will just buy what they've been told . I can almost guarantee you if they rode something with a bit more power they would change their mind .

@dohan8290 3 года назад

Offz ك

@akbarramzan4159 3 года назад

The legal limit is 250W continuous, there is no peak limit not peak duration limit. 750W for hills is not illegal

@fender1000100 2 года назад

@@akbarramzan4159 Nobody cares anyhow. I've been riding my 500w M1 pro for thousands of miles now. So long as you arent tearing up the streets at 30 plus miles an hour on a noisy ebike scrambler or moped. The average person and police see a bike with pedals and a chain. And they dismiss it. They dont know the REAL power. If you are smart you manage it sensibly and at the right times. And you will never have a problem. It's actually SAFER. To be able to accelerate at certain points in my commute. Such as roundabouts. Forked roads. And traffic lights. Where being SLOW can actually be more dangerous. When you have traffic coming from several angles. Besides fit road bike users can break 20mph easily on their bikes. You either have a SPEED LIMIT for bikes in general or you dont. SPEED IS SPEED.

@user-ck6kq8zl2i 2 года назад

@@fender1000100 I agree with l that but if you have an accident on that bike(even if it's not your fault) you would get zero compensation for injury as you were driving an illegal bike. This is my issue. I'd love a 1000w bike but I don't want to be injured and get nothing. Getting stopped by the feds doesn't concern me as I would be sensible and not draw attention to myself.

@frankstocker5475 3 года назад

Thanks, Andy love the music.

@blackadder1966 2 года назад

Here in Australia i went with a road legal 250w max assit speed 25kph. I was considering an 'off road' more powerful bike as more power couldn't be a bad thing. Using the 250w for the commute to work its 10k each way with a few hills and its more than I need. I get to work relatively sweat free and not out of breath, I'm 55 years old and do cycle non powered bikes too, up to 50k rides. The electric bike 250w gives a little work out, but not too much when your heading to work for the day.

@lookin4ward1 Год назад

25 kph? I am seriously considering buying on here in WA but want a bit faster than that ha ha

@borisgurevich5504 Год назад

I am also. In WA, mates, thinking of a conversion kit for exactly the same purpose. I am going 64

@borisgurevich5504 Год назад

What sort of ebike if I may?

@willneves823 Год назад

How steep are those hills? I’m in QLD and I have 2 hills that might be a b..

4 месяца назад

@@borisgurevich5504 wait, on a 250w hub wheel ? 64? km ?

@yodab.at1746 3 года назад

I'd say no after experiencing double the power. A quick getaway from traffic lights is much safer than possibly getting tangled with big vehicles at the same speed. 15mph is too slow for road as well. At a minimum 20mph, as that at least matches most urban speed limits. I sometimes feel the rules have been engineered to piss everyone off against cyclists.

@marcangelodonelo5656 3 года назад

May the force be with you

@jonathanoxlade4252 3 года назад

Beyond 20mph is basically a motorbike at that point meaning 52volt 750watt can easily do 30 to 40mph and maybe more

@TimpBizkit 3 года назад

@Harrison Mayson all we care about here is hacking ebike speed limits not Instagram accounts

@robertbrawley5048 3 года назад

I agree with you if driving in a roadway.. For me i I would be driving in bike paths and parking lots when I go shopping

@daveseemerollin6357 3 года назад

@@jonathanoxlade4252 than my road bike is a motorbike? Because I can cruise 30+ on the flats you fucking muppet

@TCBOT 3 года назад

i see you made a typo yes 2500w is ok in the city lol

@Domeviera28 2 месяца назад

What do U mean 2500w ?

@Kirt44 23 дня назад

Yes 2500w is fitting for my emtb

@colby8cheese208 23 дня назад

Idk 2500 seems kinda low, not really going anywhere with that might as well walk

@adam-g7crq 3 года назад

I think we should have the same ebikes the states and Canada have minimum 500W and 20mph and bought with a throttle straight from the shop.

@thedejectedape953 2 года назад

100%, maybe an easy licensing system for the models over 20mph... like a three day course or something. Much more sensible option.

@jamesmaynard9472 3 года назад

You just can not beat that feeling of riding an ebike . I built a cube 29er with a 750watt bafang mid drive and it's awesome , I managed to build a 2440 watt 48v (50ah) pack that fits the triangle of the frame like a glove 👌 crazy range ....... Keep up the good work Andy 👍👍.

@TimpBizkit 2 года назад

Makes my 17.5 Amp hour seem positively modest. Is that a heavy battery, like 12-15 kg?

@jamesmaynard9472 2 года назад

@@TimpBizkit just under 16kg, brilliant for long range easy riding but not great for general thrashing off road . my new setup is a 17.5ah just like you and I find it perfect.

@CjDon02 Год назад

are you in America or the UK? I'm looking at decent conversion kits in the UK n I've got the same kind of bike, a 29er cube

@gerry4585 Год назад

Do you live in uk?....hope not😢....

@jamesmaynard9472 Год назад

@@CjDon02 sorry mate 6months late lol yeh UK

@bigfarmerUK 3 года назад

Just found you on RU-vid. Like the video. If you live in the city then the 250w motor e-bike limit is probably acceptable. However try riding/commuting in the hilly countryside with a 30kg cargo e-bike then the motor limit sucks. Rather than restrict the motor power the restriction should be based on speed. Fortunately the Rad Power bike we have is supplied ‘restricted’ to 250w via the controller and stock display. The hub motor is actually a 500w unit. By swapping out the display and reprogramming the controller the bike is so much more usable and can climb hills with relative ease.

@TimpBizkit 3 года назад

The city is where i need the most power actually as the roads are too narrow for cars to pass.

@srspower 2 года назад

It's a double standard. We don't see cars restricted to engines that can only produce enough power for up to 70mph do we?

@PedroHenrique-dn1dj 2 года назад

@@srspower to drive a car you must be over age, get a license, pay fees... would you rather have that to ride a more powerful bike? I personally would take power restrictions any day.

@SaraSara-kr6sp 2 года назад

@@srspower lol. Double standards mentioned by poster after you are not bothering you i am guessing?😂

@garyking508 2 года назад

250w hub motors suffer a bit on loaded up hill climbs - they aren't designed for it, for those you need a mid drive, they take advantage of the bike's gearing. There is no limit to the steepness you can then tackle, they pull like a tractor. Not 25km/hr but still far faster than pushing.

@blowduke 3 года назад

After watching your vids built my first ebike 1500w 52 v plenty for my first one great fun..

@boredalchemist 3 года назад

got myself a d4s and the missus a d2s these 250w bikes are perfect for driving around town, my wife uses her one daily to do like 5 mile round trips for her shop. D4S is unlockable to 20 mphs

@newbeginnings8566 3 года назад

I was in Paris on Monday and it was interesting.. There were lots of e-bikes and e-scooters.. The French laws are not as strict as the UK ones.. The new thing I noticed that there are more and more cycle lanes.. As a ball park figure I would say 40% of E users did not respect the traffic lights, the one way systems and many rode on the pavements.. Lots of machines were obviously doctored to go faster (not against that)... I would say that for the pedestrian, especially older persons and children the behaviour of E users was really depressing and frankly dangerous.. Born out of frustration no doubt but if the users don't make an effort it will lead to compulsory insurance and taxes, helmets, stop and checks etc.. So guys, everyone needs to think about this or the state will give us a hard time.. A bit of speed when you know its okay but keep it down in built up areas and try to follow the highway code.. Remember you are virtually silent and people can't hear you coming.. Do you really want to kill a child or smash up someone's gran?

@rossmacintosh5652 Год назад

The more videos I watch with e-bike content the more I realise it is rare for riders to properly follow the rules of the road. I'm less aware of how things are in the UK & Europe but in North America it seems most riders (bicycle riders too) ride like those rules don't apply to them. I can't honestly claim to always follow the rules but do feel I drive defensively and with respect for pedestrians & car drivers. Many riders seem to forget car drivers can't read your mind. I'm frequently seeing in videos behaviour from the e-bike riders that would scare the crap out of me if I was driving a car near them or walking/running on a path as they passed.

@PeterApps 2 года назад

I'd say the 250watt, 15mph limit is adequate for most purposes, but there are so many variations. I've just returned from holiday would have liked a battery with a longer range because in Holland I could manage 15mph all day. Back in the UK in hilly terrain, the tax and insurance that would go with a more powerful bike might be worth it. Whatever your needs, there's probably something to match it.

@davidrobert2007 3 года назад

I have used a 250w mountain bike for grocery shopping trips for about five years now, it pulls well, even when loaded with a massive amount of shopping (large panniers, stuff strapped on top of panniers, and large rucksack), and it pulls up hills even when loaded like this. I have to run the tyres at a low pressure to avoid broken spokes but have had no other problems. So my opinion: 250w bike is more than adequate.

@mikewade777 3 года назад

At what distance?

@akbarramzan4159 3 года назад

If you buy a prebuilt bike, it will be peaking at much higher than 250W anyway

@itmm92 3 года назад

Nice to hear that @davidrobert2007 , I am thinking of buying the Radmission 1 which in EU it comes with 250w, instead of 500w due to the EU laws. I am thinking of buying it for grocery shopping as you stated too and ride to the beach, which is around 10km. I live on the top of a hill, but I think the distance to go to the top is like 30 to 70m, with variations between 3º~7º. So I think I will be doing okay with these kind of ebikes. Also, I don't mind pedaling, that's the purpose of the bike as well

@akbarramzan4159 3 года назад

@@itmm92 But EU law is about maximum nominal, not maximum peak. I wish I could upload images on RU-vid or else I would show you how many “250W” bikes with Bosch, Yamaha etc motors can pull well over 750W

@itmm92 3 года назад

@@akbarramzan4159 That would be nice, what kind of motors/ebikes do you recommend? could you suggest some? I am kinda lost with this, so many options and opinions. and most of the bikes are only online, it feels like it's just one shot..x)

@Arpin_Lusene 2 года назад

I ride 250w folding bike for urban commuting and already put more than 2500 km on it. I’ll say 250w is good enough for commuting around town. If you can get more power, then don’t be shy to get it, but if you only can get 250w, you don’t need to worry about lacking power at all. Even 250w makes you feel almost twice as powerful compared to you in normal average bicycle especially if you’re pedaling from stop.

@dalvenable331 2 года назад

Here in Georgia we can have a 1000 watt but I build ebikes for a hobby and have used them all and a 250 watt is ok, but an up volted 250 watt is better. now if you are looking to use a front wheel hub motor the lower watt motor is safer and gets much better range in general. There are a lot of little things you want to think about when choosing an Ebike kit or purpose built. Power being the one thing that really depends. how will you use your bike in general? what will be the terrain you will be riding in for the most part, street and trail, commute...Your weight and possible cargo weight. I like a 250 watt Mid drive for the best performance for the watt and front wheel planetary geared hub, because it is light, and offers no resistance from the motor because it is ratcheted like a free wheel sprocket so you can pedal your bike without the motor on and other than the added battery weight ride as if it were a normal bike. In both cases you can get good range with a high amp battery 20 plus ah. now if you are in a real hilly area you want to find something with more Umph! 750 watt is about one horse power the old 2 stroke mopeds were about the same and are the standard for most of the 48 states But again God Bless Georgia we got 1000 watts and no hill is an issue to me.

@GenosGlory 3 года назад

I have owned both the Fiido D2 and D3S which are both 250W electric bikes. I used to ride them to work everyday for around 20 miles. They can pull fine and no problems but 500W with stronger battery is always the better choice. Watts need to be together with a decent battery as you would have same problems.

@winsor68 2 года назад

I commute easily with 36v@ 350w. I can't imagine practically needing more unless climbing serious hills. I'm about 105kgs loaded and top out at over 30kph.

@victorokeahialam8925 3 года назад

I remember that bike, good to see its still in yours hands mate.

@DigBipper188 3 года назад

My tencents worth; 250w is a good starting point for newbies to e-bikes. Gives you an initial feel for how something with more kick might behave and they do make good general purpose commuters. For me though, 250w is *PI55 ANT* power. I like my e-bikes to have a bit of grunt to them, just like my 1900w AWD commuter does... although I intend to go for more power than that with my next high power build ;)

@JPVNG67 2 года назад

buy a motorbike then :)

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Год назад

@@JPVNG67 motorbikes are boring

@OrlandoStreets 3 года назад

Another great video Andy. Thanks and love the music!

@ashpunting 3 года назад

my first e-bike was a fiido D2 that's what got me into e-bikes plus watching your creations can't wait for your next video.

@ianmangham4570 3 года назад

Mine is 😄 I bought a 22amp 36/48 controller with the nice coloured "Julet" connectors, I run a 55v 13ah battery and it does me great and I'm 6'2" 17 stone solid brick wall 😄👍🙋That's over 1000w at full throttle and the motor loves it .

@davesalmon2492 3 года назад

20 inch wheels are great for 250 watt hub motors I have a 200w one on a fold up bike and it is fine cruises at 12.5 mph on the PAS and 15mph on the thumb throttle. After a lot of use the front forks are starting to suffer rebounds almost non existent but the motor is still fine. Not a bike you would use in a hurry but the smaller wheels seem to help the hub motor a lot. As for range a 36v 15ah silverfish. Gives me a good 35 mile range. My bum usually gives up before the battery. 4000miles n counting. Thanks for all you have done for ebike builders you do inspire I have built 3 from kits and rebuilt one love the vids.

@jasoniffland7701 3 года назад

Another great video, hopefully when the weather gets better,I'm out on my ebike,that I built from your kit,most excellent.

@pauljnicholls3929 3 года назад

250w is enough power for sure but the 15mph restriction needs to go up to 20mph. It's not asking too much.

@hasan_z 3 года назад

It's really not... and the motor power is irrelevant if a low speed limit is implemented... 1000w restricted to 20mph for roads and speed unlocked offroad is cool

@fender1000100 3 года назад

@@hasan_z Most 250w ebikes can unlock to at least 18mph. Which is a beautiful speed. I unlocked my HITWAY for that speed. And it's perfect. Climbs hills very easily. Steep ones with a little pedal assist. Speed never drops under 6 mph.

@thedejectedape953 2 года назад

What about people with lots of weight, wind and hills.... and potentially an injury or disability? We just supposed to forget it? Cause 250w definitely isn't enough then.

@yodab.at1746 3 года назад

Love the dawless studio btw 😎

@MarcusTDM 3 года назад

Great Vlog Andy. That’s an awesome little scooter, I want one! Love the music in this video. Top notch.

@glenben92 2 года назад

I have a 1kw kit and use it limited to 250 quite often. I rarely find the speed to be an issue but agree that 20mph would certainly be safer on road. I find myself at 11mph almost all the time. I do agree with others that the extra torque off the line is much safer for crossing roads & generally evading danger though. I don't see the problem with unlimited power if it's speed limited. 250w won't pull a big lad up a hill on it's own.

@miniramptricks1986 Год назад

Funny thing is the big lad can go down the hill at 50mph

@necroticavalon5176 2 года назад

I have a 350w one. Not exactly street-legal where I live, but I decided for a little more grunt (some hilly areas around). And I can tell you with my 120kg weight, it can get up to 30-32kph on the flat, no problem, but the hills REALLY kill it. Any kind of moderately-steep incline, and it slows to a crawl. Which, with my delivery job, can be a pain, as I really need to pedal-up to get any kind of speed out of it. I'd say for a heavier person, 750w should be a minimum. Even 500 wouldn't really cut it, i think. That being said, for a 60-65kg person, I have no doubt 250W is plenty. And again, I can make do with 350W (have been for 2 years now), but up the hill, you'll get your leg day's worth of workout, whether you want it or not. So as far as electric ASSIST goes, I'd say 350 is perfect for a recreational e-bike. As far as a COMMUTE vehicle goes - no. Not even close. 750 minimum.

@davesolobiker5601 3 года назад

Surprised the media mod mic cover is still in tact , nearly lost mine 😂 ... Enjoyed this one Andy

@dimitristripakis7364 2 года назад

A crucial question = can it hit 25 kmh in a reasonable UPHILL road ?

@Flamamacue 2 года назад

I have a 250W as that is the legal max in my country, and it handles most hills at 20-25 with minimal effort. A bigger hill I prefer to go a bit slower in a lower gear but 95% of the time (outside of extreme gradients) it chugs up no problems

@mraidymaddful 3 года назад

Personally I have had one experience for 5 minutes of an ebike and I loved it. Don’t know the brand but it was a 250w motor and it was just ok. I say this because I live in Huddersfield, Yorkshire and we have hills here that our American cousins call mountains. I am in my late 50s and struggle to walk up the hills so an ebike would be brilliant for me. I am hoping to get a 1000w bike that can be derestricted to 250w’s for road use. Ezebikes UK have one that looks interesting and is reasonably priced. So basically my argument is if you live somewhere that’s relatively flat, like Andy Kirby, a 250w bike probably would be sufficient, but if you live somewhere like where I am, you need something with a bit more powerful. Peace x

@mickdebergerac1143 2 года назад

Huddersfield is nearly the UK equivalent of San Francisco!!

@ghz24 2 года назад

Never been to the Rockies.

@Comewithmeifuwant2live Год назад

@@ghz24That John Denver's full of shit man!

@ghz24 Год назад

@@Comewithmeifuwant2live No the op is full of shit. Mountains in england are barely over foothills. At age twelve I climbed mount Timpanogos 4 times higher than the highest "mountain" in England (by sea level) and three times the prominence. In reality he has it completely backwards England has "mountains"we would call hills. And the area he states he lives in looks more flat, even states we make fun of as flat as a pancake have hills bigger than I see on maps of his area. Not that I care but what did Johnny say?

@Comewithmeifuwant2live Год назад

@@ghz24 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GV3E5e7fZ6M.html&ab_channel=JimCarrey Just a joke, dude!

@Dave64track 3 года назад

Great content as usual keep up the good work and stay safe.

@chrisc7262 3 года назад

Top notch vlog Andy, great camera quality and audio too. cheers

@mystscot9814 3 года назад

750w with 120nm is my sweet spot :)

@joshopsho 3 года назад

Agreed. Wish we had the US laws in the UK!

@radicaledwards3449 3 года назад

whats it like uphill with luggage?

@borisgurevich5504 Год назад

Watched the whole thing and couldn’t figure out what this video was about exactly. So chaotic! Electric cars, gloves, scooters, bikes, road rules but no clear focus

@shaunhall960 2 года назад

I'm in the US in Northern Colorado and scooters have really caught on. So far it has been pretty good for the college kids. I'm all for them if everyone keeps safety in mind.

@CBFREE 3 года назад

I have a littlefolding bike too that put a Bafang 250w hub kit on. Surprisingly nippy👍

@John-yf2uf 3 года назад

Nice one, enjoyed the video, keep them coming sir, all the best Andy.

@IDann1 3 года назад

I share your views, hopefully the scooters become legal soon, I live in Bristol and it’s perfectly legal to drive them everywhere when you RENT them. So what gives...🧐

@pwood5733 3 года назад

If you purchase a scooter you pay tax once on the price ie the business selling it pays once. If you hire a bike tax is collected on each hire payment.

@MTCoblivsicas12345 3 года назад

Government figuring a way they can tax them and demand insurance the scooters. Can't have people move around without getting a slice.

@ctrlaltdebug 2 года назад

You will own nothing, and you will be happy. That's the agenda.

@SesfikileYouTubeChannel 3 года назад

I love the music! Great video overall

@EustacioMarquez Год назад

i live in southern Arizona ! i commuter 10 miles round trip daily.. headwinds here are up to 17-20 mph and lots of slight hills. i think a 500-750 watt electric bike would be perfect for me

@ianrussell2816 3 года назад

Good video andy , enjoyed it 👍

@karldyson7466 3 года назад

Back to form Andy. Keep up the vids

@stenor 3 года назад

I have 2 wheel drive bike 2 x 250 watt motors, and 60v batteries pulls away from lights etc great and does around 25mph I'm 19 stone.

@thebluethunderbunny2324 3 года назад

I couldn't imagine having only 250 watts of power on my bike. I live in a very bustling city, and the ebike I ride around with has 500 watts, and I barely feel like that's enough to hang with the cars. Sometimes being too slow is a safety issue, so depending on where you live, more speed and power is definitely appreciated.

@fender1000100 3 года назад

Its illegal in the UK to go more that 25km an hour on an ebike. So theres no hanging with cars. You go at your own pace. Although I get 18mph out of my HITWAY. And that's enough in the city. Which is all stop and start.

@noodldoodl1970 3 года назад

If that bike was filthy when it was dry, I imagine it'll be minging by the time you stick it back in the loaner Audi :o))

@georgemagee8100 3 года назад

It is supposed to be you have to register the Scooter/bike with DVLA you then have to get a Sort of MOT and Public Liability insurance and the Most important part you Must have a Current CBT Certificate and you can only use them on road no Cycling lanes or parks.

@colinhamer6506 3 года назад

great to see you back and sounding positive. any chance of a video on the cheapest DIY e bike possible that just does the job and don't break the bank I had planned to build a bike like your monster last year but times are heard and I'm not spending anything on my self my kids come first Christmas was hard but the kids are happy

@NWforager 2 года назад

250watts , Maybe on a Mid Drive , unlocked

@necroticavalon5176 Год назад

Anyway after experiencing mid drive Bosch bike for a month (not even the latest gen, gen 3 with 65nm torque): *Not every 250w is created equal.* 250w hub is a POS. That is only good for flat ground, on any hill it will just crawl as it has no torque. And on anything steepish, it'll stall. Now, 250w mid drive with good gearing (the bike I rented has a relatively small front cog, and plenty of gear range to the rear), will get you up ANY hill without issue. Keeping it in low gears, I was basically flying up even moderate-sized hills in Turbo mode, reaching the speed cut-off at 25kph. And on the flat, you can still get good speed in lower modes, and get quite a bit more range out of the battery then comparable 250w hubs. Torque-sensing is much more efficient. So my take on it now - if you plan to be 'legal' and limit yourself to 250w - go for a factory-made 250w mid drive (not necessarily Bosch, though I think they make the best ones). It's a LOT faster and more capable then cheap 250w DIY hubs. If you don't - go wild. As power ratings increase, the difference between hub and mid drive decreases.

@jjfrom2814 Год назад

Your electric bill must be crazy got to even charge your gloves. 😂

@eBoard3R 3 года назад

*The form factor of that eScooter is awesome but it's too slow to be practical.* Ridiculously high price fpr it. Still a huge positive as a concept. If they make it a bit faster and get the price down a bit, it is the future, so portable.

@slamminpotatoes4508 2 месяца назад

4 hours for a plug in hybrid is crazy.

@badabing8884 Год назад

Enough for me. I actually do want to do some peddling

@SKBKER 3 года назад

They are shite . I live in a hilly area and they are just not enough and are too heavy . 500W plus is where it's at . I still get tailgated and exiting a roundabout is slow af .

@benrobson9044 3 года назад

the gloves turn white when its gets to a certain temperature so they dont overheat, you turning it on and off is just resetting it

@jasonmiddleton5491 3 года назад

My ebike motor is on the way (terrified about the import taxes) its a 5000w 3.5T 26" motor accompanied with 100A sabvoton controller and a 20s5p battery (manual balancing) using 25r 2500mah cells (5s x 4 setup) - I can't wait (I hope there's no fires lol)

@ruwas369 Месяц назад

keep in mind that this is a fat tire bike so that will make a difference with what kind of motor and how powerful it should be compared to a lighter bike with smaller profile

@martyncoburn1681 3 года назад

Love the little Speech at the end as I am a scooter rider and I have had to put a hold on the scooter riding they definitely need to change the law on them good video keep it up

@Nickpaintbrush 3 года назад

500 watt I`d say, great video!

@Free__Speech 2 года назад

Next humans will have batteries in them soon 😆🤣

@Denvermorgan2000 2 года назад

I dont understand why Europe has all these barriers you have to negotiate when you ride bikes they are a real pain some of them you have to hope off the bike and walk through them.

@yj8471 3 года назад

Thought you said 250w is only candle power Andy in one of your previous vloggs ? 🤣

@andykirby 3 года назад

Ssshh! They sent me the bike for free!

@PitchUpCampsiteReviews 3 года назад

Good video, good tunes, look forward to your review of the car because my father has recently got the Seat Leon Sport FR I believe it's virtually the same as the Audi but without the electric.

@sigmaoctantis_nz 3 года назад

I have a heated shirt similar to those gloves. On the default mode it starts on red (high), after a few minute it goes to white (medium) and then blue (low) when it's low battery. You can also cycle through the modes manually if you want it to stay on high but it shortens battery life considerably.

@neilrogersrogers6313 3 года назад

It’s not enough power at all! 1000 watts is the minimum you need for hills. I have the same gloves and you need to leave them pulsing for 5 mins to warm up until a solid white light appears. That is the low setting, press again for blue (medium) then again for red (high). I hope that helps.

@thevapingpolisher9717 3 года назад

I ride a 250 watt hyper e bike with everything upgraded to better but still cheap components. I will say 250 is all you need to have loads of fun .

@SuperGliderman 3 года назад

Great vid Andy,I know it's a pretty crap time your going thru at the moment so any vid from you is a good vid.

@donotwantahandle1111 Год назад

We have the same 250w rule in Australia (NSW) - it used to be 200w max!

@RogueLegend999 3 года назад

Liitokala is so good I agree. I've ordered 130 x Lii-50E for my stealth build. Taking ages to come

@itsonlyme9938 3 года назад

I have cycled down hill at 35 mph and also rode on the flat at 20 mph a its within the law but e scooter and e bikes cant go above 15.5 mph.

@gregoryaraganto9378 3 года назад

Its not really about speed, its about linear force of the wheel in combination of your weight, if you live in a flat town its not problem but where i live the average climb is 7% if you use a 40nm torque motor with a 29 inch wheel you for a guy like me 90kg you will eventually burn out the motor or the controller. The only way i have a decent high torque motor in a 29 inch bike for me its a middle drive bikes, but then i deal with high maintenance. I have opted for a 1000w (84nm) geared motor to use in the last 2 years, it does not waste energy like a gearless motor, it does provide enough torque to be efficient in climbs with high weight and its the best overall. When i opened to check after around 50 000 km its was like new. I work with delivery in the last 3 years, i average 100km a day. sometimes carrying 30kg. A 500 w (58nm) motor burned up 2 controllers, A 350w (about 45nm) motor burned up the coils, and a bafang motor chew gears like there is no tomorrow and in case of gear failure you are stuck on the street cant use the throttle. So besides what the laws in you country says, (350w for us) that is actually meaningless on the engineer side of things.

@johnf3326 2 года назад

Turbo on my rail 5 can get me up any hill, but a 15.5mph assist limit is not enough for town use. 20 would be more practical

@keithdainton6043 3 года назад

I have the m1 myself having moved from motorcycles and I can honestly say its enough power for me . the difference between this and say a non ebike is night and day. don't have to worry about hill wind or sweat what's not to love just hope it proves reliable because no electric know how lol.

@baconbuttties 3 года назад

I' m just in the middle of putting motorcycle tyres ( same wheels as yours) on me ebike build and those tyre levers are a bit small for motorbike tyres. I have tyre lever rim protectors and biggish tyre levers and it isn't easy. Or maybe I'm just rubbish at putting motorcycle tyres on.

@andykirby 3 года назад

Yeah I tried it today its a complete pig to do so I'm taking it to a local motorcycle tyre place 😅

@baconbuttties 3 года назад

@@andykirby I just managed to do the front wheel and I need a lie down 😩

@DeltaCmndrElite 3 года назад

@@baconbuttties plenty of fairy and be sure to talc the tube or you will probably pinch it!

@DeltaCmndrElite 3 года назад

@@andykirby you need motorcycle tire levers and plenty of fairy once you get to the last few inches.

@pompeymonkey3271 2 года назад

Your own music too! Thumbs up!

@dennisyoung4631 3 года назад

Yes, *if* you use a mid-drive, you don’t weigh too much, and you use the gears religiously. Oh, and stick to the 15 mph level. Note: I tested this on my (sadly) stolen BBS-HD bike (before it was stolen). Set the power level to ~ 250 watts and found it usable. Oh, and large/wide tires sap power. I had 2.15 x 26 Schwalbe big bens.

@Nickbaldeagle02 2 года назад

I've got a 500W fat bike on order. Think it'll do about 20mph with pedal assist. Getting it more for trails than roads but I'll still do some road riding.

@logtothebase2 2 года назад

I think 250W is enough, although I think some motors are rated conservative 500W with pedal assist speed limited should be OK on Cycle paths, anything higher or without pedal activation should be regulated as a moped or Motorcycle, and ridden on the road (which likely mean bump up to 1-5KW to keep up with traffic). there should be exemptions made for mobility support WRT peddle assist and power allowed on pedestrian and cycleways, If you are big person, not contributing effort with some luggage going up a steep hill, bit more HP is needed.

@SpermGerbil78 2 года назад

Interesting video. I heard you mention that your ebike was throttle. With the regulations on ebikes, wouldn't this class it as an electric motorcycle and is only allowed on the roads.

@cyclist68 Год назад

The scooters are ideal to get to a station hop on a train the use at he other end. Unfortunately our local trains have banned them due to battery fire risk in the carriage.

@robertbrawley5048 3 года назад

From 3 different channels I see that a 250 watt motor is adequate for me but the conversion kits are the same price as a 48 volt conversion kit. A small battery like a battery powered electric drill battery and a small controller is appealing to me . I'm in the United States

@Knight766 2 года назад

Could use a tarpaulin or mat to carry things in the car

@mox1569 3 года назад

Try a bbshd 1000w 48v tops at 50mph It might be illegal in the UK But just get a 250w 36v stickers in case you are asked whats in it.

@oznerolirarref 3 года назад

I have a BBSHD 1500w 52v and it tops out at 50 kmh not mph

@TimpBizkit 2 года назад

I think 50 mph would be pushing it unless you have a top of the line time trial bike and skin tight clothing and aero bars to install it on. Pro trackies can get into the mid 40s in the velodrome. On a flat bar MTB with the aerodynamics of a shed, and leathers, not a chance. I've gotten 42 out of the BBS02B on a Scott Voltage MX3 with me assisting A LOT.

@ash0787 3 года назад

500w minimum lol. my ebay esc runs at 750w in limited mode which is how I usually go. It will choke going up very steep hills, I doubt it would be much useful in somewhere like Wales. I rarely use the full 1500w mode as it shortens range and only have a 20 ah battery ( still quite expensive though ).

@sicosis 3 года назад

Andy my widow maker ebike uses 18 x 3.0 inch rear n 24 x 3.0 inch front tyres... are an absolute nightmare to find ! I bought 18inch long tyre levers from screwfix, need the leverage with the 18inch tyres bigtime believe me coz it's a motorbike tyre...extra thick rubber construction. Rear hub motors weigh a ton, another nightmare changing tyres..if I turn my bike upside down for some reason I loose the hydraulic brakes, but no oil leaks out anywhere.... haven't sussed that out yet. Great vid btw....god bless

@TheKinlock 3 года назад

What’s the best ebike you could recommend For someone on a budget

@ornn6177 3 года назад

the one hes riding

@andrewbye8793 3 года назад

Hi ya m8 have a look at a SAMEBIKE 500w .. I Bought a new one off EBAY for £746 ordered on a Thursday night from a seller in Lithuania and was on my door step on the Monday morning .. I was on a budget to and this is my first ebike and after using it for a few months cannit fault it for the money ..

@jonathan1976xxx 3 года назад

Nice to see the music set up 🙂

@Seafox0011 3 года назад

Nice camera work there!

@AIDANPEREIRA 3 года назад

i heard they barely go 25km/h...or are limited to that even in pedal assisted mode or something and honestly it feels too little seeing that people can cycle at 30-45km/h on regular cheap road bikes

@SaraSara-kr6sp 2 года назад

If u can go 30/h that easily just drive normal bike:)

@dongee1664 2 года назад

Got fed up with waiting.

@RockyLofeudo999 3 года назад

Great Video as usual. 🤗🤟

@tarmacdemon 3 года назад

I have two e-bikes one is 250 w front wheel drive Voilmart tied up to a 36 10ah battery the other is a 200 w rear wheel drive un named just 200w 36 volt both bikes have 36v 10 ah batteries . both home built . the only problem I have is soft ground or soggy grass both perform good on roads and hard pack and get me quite away with no problems .

@mange2 Год назад

I want a 250w folding ebike with high torque, front and rear suspension, rear rack, 20" fat tyre wheels, hydraulic brakes, wide handlebar (or replaceable) can handle up to 300lbs and is not so short that it looks like a unicycle. I know its an impossible ask. Maybe I could modify a 250w base model.

@brynharper3231 3 года назад

Andy, have you done any testing with Active or passive battery cooling to improve performance or range?

@andykirby 3 года назад

No but interested in that

@brynharper3231 3 года назад

@@andykirby I wonder if it might help battery logevity as well, great channel btw

@techtitanuk5609 5 месяцев назад

Thing is how would the police know if the bike is 500w? Iv never been pulled

@sanesaint8725 3 года назад

I'd love to have that one at 1500 watts with the back shock maybe even 2000 Watts can't afford it though I'm saving up for 1500 watt

@Tonyv1951 3 года назад

Buy a motorbike. It would be cheaper and will go better. A learner legal 125 has 7500 watts and can ride at 55 / 60 mph. Granted it will last a lot longer at 50mph all day, but you would only pay less than a thousand quid for an older one with about 8000 miles on it. I have a 15000 watt (20 hp) 250 cc Honda that I bought for £650. It is immaculate, twenty years old and had only 10500 miles on it when I bought it. It does 80 miles to the gallon. I'm looking at not that great ebikes online and they cost £2k and £3k!!!