Are All Cops Bastards? Police vs Criminals | Middle Ground 

It isn’t blown out. But this entire episode was both entertaining but felt VERY one sided.

It should not have been Cops vs. Criminals. It should’ve just been Cops vs. Citizens. Both these groups are going to have an obvious bias towards the other. Also, it’s more likely that the criminals will be less educated while the cops are more likely to be educated to a certain degree. The only ones I enjoyed from that side was Donna and Bonnie.

No, it's not blown out of proportion. Their purpose should be to keep people safe and be role models. Instead, when they commit violence they get protected, fired and re-employed at other departments, and on and on. As it stands now, their job is to lie, intimidate people into compliance, and run a razor thin line on the side of legality. Their job is, by definition, violence. And when they cross that line into illegal behavior, they should be humiliated and hung out to dry. Not protected.

Media corporations get huge amounts of money from over reporting and over dramatizing many issues, police violence being one of them. It’s as simple as that

yes and no. I can only speak of the things i see in Media since im from Germany and we dont have such Problems. I know many Europeans say that but: Its the Guns fault. Police has to be armed because every citizen can be aswell. How often have you done things like cussing at a loved one because youre in a bad mood? Its the same just aggrevated to way higher level. If you had no Guns you would have not that level of threat that criminals bring. Someone robs a cornerstore with a knife is way easier to take control of than a robber with a Gun. So Yes and No. Police is mad because colleagues getting murdered left and right but so are the communities if a loved one getting killed because some cop has a trigger finger. This chain of violence will not stop if the weapons are so easy to come by-

Not the same by how?

This would be interesting!

@@JeyC_ because American cops abuse their power

This 100% needs to happen

Yeah that could be an intersting conversation because there is a big shift between American police officers and those who aren't.

THIS.

you win the internet and Jubilee today. FINALLY, a smart comment.

I hate how criminals justify that there shouldn’t be no punishment as well as cops THEY ALL NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

PREACH IT BROTHA!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

exactly

He doesn’t have to serve as much time as the others to be treated wrongly by the police

They have felony convictions, and served their time to society and paid the piper for what they did. They are not felons. They are Americans humans just like you and me. They just made poor choices, and it took them on a very bumpy road. They deserve to be treated like anyone else. I hope you are a great detective one day. I hope that when you look at a crime scene or at a group of suspects to investigate, you can see the Grey because not everything is black and white. I hope your safe and healthy. Love you with all my heart.

THIS: "They have felony convictions, and served their time to society and paid the piper for what they did. They are not felons. They are Americans humans just like you and me. They just made poor choices, and it took them on a very bumpy road. They deserve to be treated like anyone else." Exactly. One wrong choice can change their lives, for their ENTIRE lives, even though people can & DO change all the time

@@aClownBaby- sexual harassment is not the same as experiencing a rape though. I would say they are completely different. One is more traumatizing than the other.

I know more women who have been raped than I know women who haven't, if that tells you anything

OR, not undermining the seriousness of rape, but it could be what they claimed to happen. These days the word rape and assault is just too cheap for me personally.

​@Anthony MC thats kinda fd up. U can tell they werent lying nd 99 percent of ppl dnt lie abt being raped

​@@anthonymc8361 excuse me??? Are you for real???

FACTS!!!

but yea Uvalde's response was terrible

what is the probability that #1 there is a civilian or multiple civilians with a gun, #2 he has the balls and the weapon capable of neutralizing the threat and #3 he has the training required to take this threat out without any collateral damage? I agree a lot police departments have handled similar situations horribly, but I still think the odds of ending these type of situations with the least number of casualties is higher when the police show up. Lets get out of emotions and try to rationalize this and rely more on data

True that was something he clearly didn't consider

Yeah, I get the point he was trying to make. Cops obviously need to be armed around dangerous individuals, but such a bad example to use.

"I WAS ARRESTED FOR NO REASON, COPS BAD"

He was arrested for smoking weed. You should try to help that kid and not treat him like a dangerous criminal and abuse him . Yall are confused af

@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 you seem to be the one confused blud, I'm just pointing out how slow the guy seems to be with his contradicting statements, don't tell me you're slow too?

@@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 Found the criminal.

@@neonpyre7469 dw hes in every reply defending the ignorant mf, hes probaly his brother or smth.

And then they didn't seem to understand the next question either. Like the question was is crime ever justifiable. Idek what they were talking about, it had nothing to do with the question.

@@pendragon7600 Like bro i just watched the first 5 minutes the guy just pointed out civilians owning guns as defense for school shootings so lil bro was saying civilians should have guns but not cops?

Donna was intelligent but the rest of the convicts had a combined IQ of 50😂😂😂 they’d lose an argument to a dead person

She was scared because there was a lot of tension and power in that room.

@@aguy9071 oh brother no 😂 she doesn't usually interrupt

@@cedricdavis513 what does this gotta do with gender……. yall always bring gender into places where it doesnt fit

@@cedricdavis513 ???????????

@@cedricdavis513 please expand what you mean. Typical woman to this comment means nothing

Yeah, everyone hates on cops until they need them.

Yeah he seemed very traumatized, understandably so- but I think he was talking more out of emotion than anything else. Especially saying he was addicted to the news, seeing as the news is geared and targeted to run one specific narrative. (I'm not with or against cops, just something I noticed about Charlie's narrative)

Call the cops just for the sake of documenting everything, still go look for your daughter yourself

For sure my thought, even though I can understand some of what he said, I mean I'm pretty sure that the situation you should call a cop

Yeah, Charlie was trippin' ha

What a smart guy

😂😂😂

I genuinely thought I was gonna have a stroke everytime he opened his mouth

I’d say all of the convict side lacked brain cells

@@trantorthetroll8768 how...???

​@@trantorthetroll8768the black woman was smart, she just intentionally argued using emotional responses rather than logic. Everyone else on that side had an IQ less than 80.

What side?? You think anyone should support criminals? That's disgusting...

No it wasn't. Just because one side disagreed/was offended by prompts and hard conversations doesn't mean it was monitored poorly.

​@TheStepmonkey What side? You think anyone should support cops? That's disgusting

@@TheStepmonkey i support criminals

@@iceywolf1I like criminals, they liberate us

No police just suck

Charlie has a lot of anger and trauma and he's still pretty young. I know you wouldn't get it, Darren.

@@iplayCoDandBF I've been through plenty of trauma, I just don't live my life as a victim.

@@darrenashjames yea dude you tell those minorities to just get over it!

@@darrenashjames whole lot of cooning in this comment section lmao

Ikr, it’s so sad bc they don’t actually care what they say. The criminals have their own projections and hatred and aren’t open to hearing them out.

@@yarioiwho do you think gave them those experiences

​@@yoonbum4877that's not an excuse for them to interrupt them consistently like huh. Both sides have traumas. Their in a well structured area to discuss appropriately. If they have to interrupt rather than listen first then respond, we'll maybe they shouldn't be here if they can't handle this complex discussion.

@@yoonbum4877 they did it to themselves. it is not that hard to not break the law.

@@yoonbum4877like getting arrested?

What do you think about the amount of stuff cops get away with in the US?

@@senor834speak on the specific amount of cops not generalised category of all cops

I'm in the UK too I don't understand why America has allowed public to get hold of guns should make it illegal or at least the public have a licence

They probably popped popcorn and had a watch party at the station to hear Charlie finally get his shot to say his piece.

the havaiian girl also

My town has a family called the Seelingers. Meth family, domestic abuse, theft, assault. They’re known for causing trouble and being all around unrepentant and violent. No one I know has any sympathy for them. With a criminal record as long as that family’s, it’s hard to even want to have sympathy.

my guess is that he is a habitual law breaker who is in the station every week based on his behavior and context from what he said

The fact he absolutely refused to let the cop say anything shows there will never be a interaction that would be non confrontational.

Low IQ, hes just not that bright

okay cat boy 😂

@@austin5950Yes I do in fact like cats.

Imagine yourself in a room with 4 people who represent a type of people that have wrongfully made your life hard hundreds, if not thousands, of times and then type that ignorant & rude comment again 😉

​@@MC_SmuvCops make life hard for criminals.. 😂

Don't need a ridealong, we actually live in our cities and we know what goes on. Civilians stop far more incidents than 🐷s

@@jslaughterofthesoul4939 then why are cops called if civilians stop more crime??? Civilians tend to not get involved because they don’t want to get themselves hurt or get retaliated against. Maybe here in Texas I can see civilians attempting to stop certain crimes because you never know what citizen is armed because you don’t need a license to conceal carry

The black cop was so mean. “Not me just because it happened to you and other people but I don’t do it so it’s not valid.”

​@ZzzZ-sb9ju Well it's not fair to be all stereotypical about it isn't it

yet Bonnie was talking about her distrust of police that she had interactions with throughout the country... .sorry...she made her mistake and went to jail........and learned nothing and continued to commit crimes all over. smh.

They do it on purpose to create drama and drive up views.

Nahhh this guy hella different. I could sit through and still listen to an insufferable person but he’s on another level. Omg it crazyyyy. I’m so ready to say everything that happened to him and well deserved and like I’m getting physically upset and it’s bad that I feel this way for a person in a video on the internet. But omg it ridiculous

They do it on purpose to rile up emotions

Which person?

@@Corekidbeenybunny Charlie

He didn’t want to continue because the questions were confusing him. And they’re calm because they went on a smoke break

Seriously Jubilee did SUCH A HORRIBLE job in handling this video. They didn't step it and tell them to shut it and let the other side speak.

@@dani09eveline yea confusion is not what he said, beloved. Replay that part.

Alot of the questions are filmed out of order so you may be wrong

@@turnbasedtoddy7664 I don't think it necessarily matters what order they filmed... the fact of the matter is that AT SOME POINT... Scar was irritated with the questions and how the conversations were being moderated. Plus, I don't even believe that it was actually filmed out of order and you're just saying how you think EVERY production operates. The types of questions that were asked and the order that they are in make PERFECT sense as to why they would have actually asked them in the order that they are in the video. Plus, if you really pay attention, there are a lot of moments that people bring up ideas that were spoken about in previous prompts. For example... the fact that they kept bringing up the women having been sexually assaulted. If the prompts were in a different order, they wouldn't have known that the women had those experiences or brought them up later in the video if they were out of order. Not to mention... they wouldn't have even PUT that clip of him saying he didn't want to continue if it wasn't being filmed in progressive order of the video. What would be the point?

Facts

Its honestly sad how him and many others dont see how these 4 cops shouldn’t be generalized with all the bad ones, just as how the ex-felons shouldn’t be generalized with being bad people

Especially Charlie. Probably an illegal

I felt the same sometimes with Scar.

hes not part of the problem, he IS the problem. IQ of a banana.

@@akosnemeth and Bonnie

Every convict but Donna was a waste of a spot in this conversation

@@PunoBenditofor sure, Donna is the only one who bothered to listen to a different point of view

agree.

100% agree! I usually enjoy jubilee videos but this one missed the mark completely as far as handling the interviewees and making sure everyone had a chance to speak

I couldn't finish watching this video. It was THAT bad.

No, I enjoy the unfiltered discussions being taken. Middle ground used to be heavily edited, people have requested for this as it's counter-intuitive to edit/intervene in a discussion meant to show both sides.

I agree. If you, as a youtube channel, put together these debates, you have the responsibility to manage when someone interrupts someone else to the point where they cannot get their thoughts across. I swear, lately, I've felt that people like Charlie get away with these things in middle ground whereas in episodes before, it wasn't like this. I don't care who you are, everyone deserves a turn to speak, that's just human decency. Please guys, this is a great concept, I can't sit here and watch how people just don't have respect for other people's thoughts and views where they don't even allow them to speak. It's truly a miserable viewing experience.

So you think that criminals aren't able to be sweet, kind people?

@@DanielPotter311 No not really.

@@DanielPotter311 If you're selling hard drugs? I dont think so lol

​@@Henry-sd7vd Doctors are some of the nicest people

jailed for hustling and selling drugs to people that payed nd asked for the drugs... thats those own peoples fault ... he needed the money u dont know his situation.

no they shouldn’t be either… tf is your point

​@@funkunkobut all American criminal have a gun so its would be foolish not to carry one as a cop

If Jubilee has any money from this they should put it where their mouth is and put it towards organizations trying to heal this trauma and end police violence.

I am a non criminal and have the same perspective of the criminal side

@@monithebarbie Cops shouldn’t have guns? You’re not to bright are you?

@@byrontownsel7274 u never heard of non lethal guns

Most definitely, these are people who spent years in prisons and jails which at the bare minimum is severely traumatizing, whether you did something or not. They spoke about what the police did to them when they weren't even committing crimes! The police officers can sympathize with the convicts but definitely cannot empathize.

Scar is a moron

There was one cop didn't even speak at all, did he?

​@@lizard8694 he did but barely a few sentences

@@imHim710 yea because scar was going off every time unlike how this original comment tried to claim

nahh cus its cops, they dont want other people habing power over them so they talk over each other, ITS ALL ABOUT POWER TRIP

I actually thought she was the host

Too bad she spoke nonsense. Her saying policing criminals = slavery was wild.

No she doesn't. She speaks a bunch of nonsense.

She’s a healer. She has healing energy and I love that for her ♥️

She has a toxic victim mindset...which inherently carries a degree of racism and prejudice in it...and she has extremely narcissistic traits..Every single prompt she had to bring back to her situation..Lady..The world doesn't revolve around you..The world isn't a fair place and no one owes you understanding..We have to stop coddling this victim mindset..

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’m not trying to be insensitive but he’s either a complete moron or a plant from the producers

He's got victim mentality

He legit was pissing me off

Some people don't want to listen. They just want you to hear their "truth". It gets us no where.

Charlie is on the criminal panel for a reason… dude needs to wake up.

istg charlie interrupting the cop being respectful made me so mad. like shush

Jubilee literally encouraged it to!! they never intervened when he talked over him for a SOLID MINUTE, they only intervene when he points out that he wants an actual debate setting where he can TALK. EVEN THEN THEY LET CHARLIE CREATE AN ENTIRE ESSAY AND THEN SILENCE THE COP AND TELL HIM TO WAIT HIS TURN WHEN HE TRIES TO INTERJECT. not only THAT but they had the gal to move onto the next question ebfore even letting him finish. They handled this HORRIBLY, shame on jubilee.

​@@72horses75 I've noticed @jubilee does this semi-often from the videos I've seen. They're trying to virtue signaling and it's super obvious to anyone with an above room temp. I.Q.

Yes and no. He was getting hot and her point was look see

​@@hopxfu1657Can you tag the timeline please.

ong

I know. I just want to hug him.

Bad culture up briging that led to cops to suspect on him, he sad becasue there is crime, if there were no crime, plice would have to be so harsh.Stop supporting you bro criminal.that is the message

More like he started in the hood and didn’t chance who he hangs around.

hopefully he doesnt have children

😂😂😂

The Fifth Amendmen imbecile coward 😂

yeah or the guy from Taken

😂😂😂 he’s a character. Most of those “sovereign” citizens act like that too. As funny as it is, it’s really sad that an adult can CHOOSE to be like that.

@@peestrem31 unfortunately for him, he’s neither a billionaire or an ex CIA agent 😂

It would be interesting if they had a mediator

@@joeymurillo4203it actually shows a lack of emotional intelligence

What they need see a psychological analysis/specialist to know when the tension is happens a bit too many times it occurred in these very hot sensitive conversations that in deep careful analysis and patience with mutual respect shown; okay show a lil to show people how the public is but can be bad and dangerous if it lasts to long as it was shown bit too many times and too long in critical moments of their person experiences

Drama reels in views, it's that simple

no? why would they censor it it’s supposed to be where both sides 100% honest and give there opinion

He also looks like his breath stank

How virtuous these criminals are. They have all the answers.

And that’s the problem. He was so juvenile!! Still angry at the world instead of looking in. He was so cringe.

​@@-----GOD----- To say nothing about the police; upholding a system which seeks punishment over rehabilitation makes you a dishonest coward when your slogan is to "serve and protect"

As soon as Marlon was questioned he got upset... should not be a cop anywhere

Or the other side

@@David-ol6zjhow so

@@David-ol6zjjust a false statement, did you watch the video like at all?

The black cop was so mean. “Not me just because it happened to you and other people but I don’t do it so it’s not valid.”

They suffer from the toxic victim mindset which plagues our society today..They are short-sighted and have no idea of how the world really functions..They live in a small selfish bubble and love to point fingers and blame everyone else for their willful ignorance and outright stupidity.. Btw I have done 7 years in prison and have seen both sides..

Absolutely agree with you, Camile. This conversation needed a lot more consideration bc it’s too intense of a debate.

Brilliant, well said.

No he tried to leave because he's not educated enough for the debate "I'm trying to get my point across that fck the police you know what I mean" very sophisticated perspective.

So more policing. Got it.

It's funny cause the person complaining that they couldn't get a word in was constantly cutting people off mid-sentence to get his own word in, like the video was only about him and his experiences.

I'm sure his interactions went the same way with the cops he encountered on the streets, too.

Their attitudes obviously led them in to their incarceration.

@@ds82wrestlingthese specific cops weren’t the ones who mishandled this gentlemen. Yet he still disrespects, interrupts and rejects to even listen to the other side. How can he want to reach middle ground(I hope everyone is) if he doesn’t even want to listen to the other side?

@@cristianfilmz24 I 100% agree. That's what I am saying, he is hostile here, I am sure he was hostile to any officers on the street as well. Probably even more so.

bro literally made the whole story up lmao

For real. We've had school shootings 28 times out of the 36 weeks we've had this year. Prohibiting cops from lethal force against someone actively firing with thousands of targets is insanity. I've had 2 friends this year who've been in school shootings and they're alive because of cops with firearms.

Thats why America needs to implement strict gun laws.

"You need guns to combat guns" then get rid of the guns and you won't have that problem. The most popular argument against this (the black market) is silly as the black market exists all over the world and yet somehow there are no where near as many school shootings anywhere else in the western world than America, where guns seem to be basically handed out to its citizens. Why are there so many mass shootings?

Cops in S. Korea do carry guns. They carry modified .38 revolvers. But are not as equipped as American Police officers.

@@rickmin3566 They are allowed to but most of the times they do not except for the special occasions.

Lol the guy in the blue jacket cant stop being a cop for 2 mins and it shows from 53:40 forward this was perfect it shows that cops ain't shet and that's what slot of people don't like about it they were hoping it would show something else😂

I understand your reasoning for more facilitation but what I like about MG, is that they allow people to navigate through the tough conversations themselves. Even if the conversation “fails” so to speak, you still see a lot of truth in those moments.

​@@troyd.8718 Nah they need someone to moderate straight up lies and and all the interrupting

The cops were disingenuous

They don't give a fck how their content impacts the lives of people as long as it gets clicks.

🙄 people are going to handle varying situations differently, this thing that happened to you ONE TIME is not indicative of the rest of the cops and how they handle situations/POC

​@@Fjdhskskjdbut that one time had a chance to turn south, which has happened, I believe that everything can be fixed more if immunity is taken out. Then the police can think and take better desicion.

Weird cause there's a lot of cops of color 😂

no one should have guns PERIOD. that’s the entire point.

@@funkunkoExcept the ex-convicts agreed with the second amendment.

Charlie is the reason why things escalate without needing it to be

gaslighting at its finest

I mean the way i see it the ex convicts all did things to land them up in prison. These people obviously have some problems and you can visibly see this manifest throughout the video. The guy walking out, charlie i mean like seriously

This is valid. Charlie 100% was being an a**hole. In the same breath, this is a profession that Requires a great deal of patience. And if you can’t manage it, it’s truly not the role for you.

That jabroni is seriously bringing up Uvalde as an example of needing police?! They wouldn’t go inside to help and stopped parents from going in and helping. Absolutely embarrassing

the type of person? He IS the exact person. That's all he did the entire episode

@@Ian-uo2mj he was irritating me... ugh

BRO I hated him what an ignorant mf.

@@samisugarcube I just started this video and I’m about 2 mins in. I’m gonna reply on my opinions on that guy after I’m done

Dan I don’t see Abby in the comments 😂😂

He’s a professional victim.

Just because he smoke weed at 13. Like dawg your 13. Now getting punched in the chest is extreme but the cop knew you weren’t gonna speak up. But that’s your own fault for not speaking up after while in court or the many of times you’ve talked to your family or lawyer.

Hes obviously deeply taumatised.

@@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 nah just a division 1 victim

@@diegomontoya172 your a child you've got no idea.

wasn't any single persons fault

Sometimes there isn't going to be a middle ground and that is okay

Sounds like he's really hurt, and it seems to me he first needs empathy before he can empathize with others.

I enjoyed hearing his perspective and experience

He’s another in a long line of idiots with no acknowledgement of personal responsibility

Exactly, I wonder what their crimes were and if there are victims how empathetic they are to their victims compared to themselves.

Yeah it’s a bad example but no way you seriously said “fool” ☠️

Is bro in the 1700s?

They should be charged!!!

LMAO that's what I thought too. Those cops had the weapons and acted like complete cowards. They even stopped one of the cops who wanted to go into the room since his wife was a teacher.

@@bradf9977there’s an extremely high probability that you wouldn’t have done anything differently in their position. The overwhelming majority of our society nowadays are inherently cowardice. Which is exactly why you should have the utmost respect for the brave police who willingly put their lives on the line every single day.

The mods were not going to check a room full of cops and ex cons. 😂

Jubilee actually displayed that info on the screen when the cop was speaking on it (that armed cops did nothing during the killings)

Uvalde was stopped by a ICE officer and the cops were told to WAIT for swat. It was the perfect example of what waiting for help looks like.

Absolutely not, I love when it’s not mediated as much, I want them to genuinely speak as much as possible

@@kaylao.3326 Yes, but scar and the others probably didn't see that. I mostly think he just should've gotten a chance to speak during that conversation

Jubilee encouraged this. This guy kept talking over the cop the whole time no one did anything, then one of the ladies were saying how he should have more patience when this guy is CONSTANTLY talking over him in a debate and not even letting him speak. THEN they let him spew a whole essay and whenever the cop tries to even interject the host tells him hold on and then they dont even show his opinion and move onto the next slide. This is ridiculous and unfair when this is supposed to be midddle ground. The cop literally had to ask them to step in and when they did they stepped in to silence the cop!

I didn’t like the Jubilee only had questions that were centered around the cops but not around the ex-convicts. It made the whole video seem like they were bashing on the cops. I agree with some of the criminal but they aren’t innocent in the blame game

Thank you Charlie annoyed me when he speaks like you talked now let other speak

Charlie is ignorant af. He hasn't had a rough life the guys a clown

This. And Jubilee encouraged it for views 🙄

Ohhh poor you

@@alphabettown04Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an eloquent counter argument I mean you really did just shatter his whole worldview and leave him no opportunity for rebuttal His point was that maybe there’s a reason cops go into encounters with little patience

@@samstromberg5593 it’s RU-vid, you dunce. I’m not a debate bro trying to change anyone’s worldview. Just felt like clowning on him a bit kinda how I’m clowning on you too rn.

Charlie was the worst. Most annoying person to ever see on this show. There was some real ignorant annoying people that appeared on this series and the RU-vid platform… but I must say… Charlie is competing for the gold trophy of “special”.

And people deal with bad cops on a daily! 😂 Civilian and cops are having the same experiences

He outed himself as a sovereign citizen that explained everything to me

@@Forester-i felt that too

The overtalking by everyone, NEEDS a 3rd party to referee things unbiasedly. Charlie the guest was overtalking more than anyone, as well as others to varying degrees too, BUT there is little to almost ZERO proactive mediation evidence by the Jubilee show “Host” to keep things on track, except when things are ALREADY getting out of hand. The Jubilee Host needs, the skills to verbally quell tensions BEFORE they get out of hand, recognize the Triggering behaviours on both sides that can naturally and justifiably come out of escalating situations such as these very polarizing talk shows/discussions. Jubilee NEEDS more, than just some host-Director and a camera person only asking the main questions and then being absolutely silent to watch things head into train wreck breakdowns in everything. The Jubilee “Host” was weak, in acting many times during this episode BEFORE things headed into more volitile situations and seemed to be just letting everything escalate just for “TV Show entertainment DRAMA”, like this show tends to do all too often, for clicks/views/Likes, etc. WEAK administration by Jubilee, in effectively handling BOTH sides when there clearly needed the 3rd party host acting as the “IMPARTIAL” mediator to step in to communicate things back on track from side tangents, or set the grounds rules of respectful and balanced talk/listen, question/answer type discourse. “Jubilee, don’t let this haphazard Hosting continue without a proper interviewer/supportive counselor or communications specialist to be there to intervene at a moments notice if need be. “ A future physical disruption, where a guest or someone SNAPS on another, or the group, staff, or whatever will eventually grow out of these WEAKLY mediated episodes as unfortunate as that would be. Just because the cameras filming are rolling, don’t think nothing will happen, that is unwise thinking or preparation…

Same. I paused it a few times because I was getting irritated how he continued to cut people off and talk over them, not allowing them to make their point when they were granting him, that respect of allowing him to give his perspective. He was ridiculous.

Omg thank you so much and because of you imma finish this bc facts watching him is hard

Where do you get these statistics from..Donna seems intelligent. Surely more intelligent then you

​@@jordanmcmullen8454you sure seem to understand statistics

I think that might be part of the explanation, butt not the full explanation. A typical IQ-test measure the ability to see patterns and understand complexity. Criminals tend to fail to recognize bad situations, control impulses and fail to see or ignore long- and short term consequences before making poor decisions. That's also why there are plenty of high IQ criminals. Even knowing the consequences, they fail to recognize or just ignore the signs of a bad situation. Ego gets more people arrested than ignorance.

@@jordanmcmullen8454well first of all, believe it or not, statistics don’t represent the whole. Also she isnt a “criminal” she was just convicted of something she didn’t do.

he’s the type of person to rob someone, get caught, and blame the person he just jacked because they just happened to be there

@@jake.porter Fact

Welcome to the progressive utopia

That’s a fact lol

Nah facts

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Obviously trying to have conversations with mentally immature felons won't be productive 🤣

This was a rough one to watch. The whole conversation seemed to be based on emotions rather than facts, from both sides. Not the best casting on this one in my opinion.

Still productive

Healing is very productive

100% lol

Scumbags for sure

$2000 that they're aggressive against normal civilians, because they have to feel tough

4 stooges

Yep

It's their job to be neutral!! They get paid for that!! The other side is in no way bound to any kind of neutrality towards the cops. Especially with all they've been through.

@@MC_Smuv What do you mean by neutrality?

I empathize traumas of ex-convicts with the system and bad cops, but with their logic of generalizing, basically stereotypes of all isms like racism, sexism, ageism would be justified💔❤️‍🩹

@@EMMAMUNOZ-id1bg he means that it's the cops' job to ensure the safety and protect the people, not assume every one of them walking around is a threat that needs to be intimidated and yelled at or need have a gun pointed at their heads. It's not the civillian's job to do anything, they can assume all they want about cops but cops have certain responsibilities in place, often ones they break and don't get punished for. all of these people in the comments are promoting tyranny and are blind in how justice works.

her voice calmed me down

Because she’s lying?

She comes over as a moderator

@@101Navyseals what did she lie on?

​@@davidjones595 don't disrespect her like that 😂

I laughed at that.

In a normal world yes thats crazy. The thing is though that makes her point valid is they are supposed to be held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be "trained" in de-escalation. That officer was trying to insert his dominance over that kid. He went so far as to look at the producers and knock him down a step. Believe it or not this is a very common behavior in police officers. Im in belief that cops are important but we are people too. Treat us that way.

@@rainwhenidie6666you’re blinded by your unwillingness to see the other side. He’s a human being who was being talked to like a child.. an officer not in an official setting (i.e. on a traffic stop) is not expected to be a perfect human being. Zoom out and look at both sides

Ditto

@@rainwhenidie6666 so how long was he supposed to go on trying to answer the question and being told you're not answering my question and being interrupted? 15 times? 20 times? 3 million times?

yeah, no wonder he is a criminal

He was really annoying and thought he knew what he was talking about.

The guy wouldn't let anyone else talk. I'm surprised the moderator didn't step in when he got heated

Charlie’s response to the policing prompt is telling. He’s someone that doesn’t want to be held accountable for any of his actions. Simply put: he doesn’t like being told what to do.

He has a reason to feel the way he does. He’s Hispanic. They’re the second largest ethnic group of people (aside from black folks) to be profiled and harassed by cops, especially in places like Texas, Cali and NYC

Lmao exactly

What's that?

@@michaelmitchel3471 Basically people who don't think a bunch of laws apply to them such as needing a driver's license, insurance, license plate, or vehicle registration to drive on the road.

@@Forester- oh thanks

Charlie is more than just a sovereign citizen, he's an anarchist. I've met several in my travels, and they all seem to have this pie in the sky idea that humans are capable of policing themselves. They think we dont need agencies like the EPA, FDA, and the like. It's a total fantasy concept the completely ignored the factors of human greed and the all of the evils that men have done throughout history that brought on the need for these agencies.

So true

He is a child.

@@rickgold4854 being real is not childish. Sorry you’re weak.

Absolutely, I respect and like this guy because he is so honest and open.

​@@TheSakufighterThere's a difference between being real and whatever scar is doing. Scar is projecting what happened to him to the cops in the video and pushing it to others outside and in general. If he was being real then he wouldn't project and keep levelheaded. I'm against cops but what Scar was doing isn't real and is childish

Why is no one liking this comment? Oh yea, because it proves most people wrong about how we are the only country that has cops with guns. Smh

@@rosanamaldonado4690It’s because the UK doesn’t have less issues than the US. Look at the arson and stabbing rates in the UK. The crime doesn’t stop, the method does

Nobody said he should go to a scene with no guns. Maybe next time listen first before speaking.

@@smbenga2 Exactly.

@@amandamorgan8349 removing guns from police officers… what does that mean? No guns at a crime scene lmao. Tf

Yeah that's called gaslighting.

Yea I didn’t like! that charlie is definitely an agitator and manipulator, charlie can’t understand because all he can think about is himself and what he went through and how he was done wrong and can’t put himself in the officers shoes because he disassociate himself with anything that has to do with the law 🤷🏾‍♂️

100% that part was really annoying. Also because after that the officers who clearly wanted to say something were not allowed to respond and they just cut to the next prompt.

They all did their time for their crimes so stop labeling them as criminals.

​@@19jessejames83That's what they are

He’s immature and influenced

He's a sociopath. They have no remorse for their actions as they lack empathy. I've worked in prison, I know this type all too well.

i simply think he just did not care about what they had to say

@@DirectorHMAN do you have the credentials to diagnose that?

I understand what your saying but You gotta put yourself in his shoes tho

not really, someone with eyes can see and understand where Charlie's coming from

@@gregap8282Charlie wants to be heard but doesn’t want to listen, there’s bad cops and there’s bad people.

​@agustinjr.enriquez6238 The excuse of "there's bad cops" is so lame, the system is broken. The system was built around slave catchers. The system has failed the average person so many times

​@@gregap8282 Yes but his points are so futile and can be easily seen as nonsense. His reasoning for these points based on past trauma is very real and I empathize. But when faced with the question of being hyprocritical, he agrees knowing his point is so invalid, but still tries to impose it otherwise. I think the biggest point in this whole video was the black cop saying " Just like how you don't want to be discriminated against because of bad things other people did, I dont want to be judged by the offenses other cops have made " Its really a big circle and the traumas that happen on both sides will keep it spinning. But people like charlie that insinuate hypocrisy and hate all because of few, we will never get anywhere. Same goes for cops who do the same thing

​@@gregap8282we see where Charlie is coming from but anyone with eyes can see what kind of guy Charlie is. He's an instigator who loves to start drama and play victim later.

I think the promps need to be better as well its very vague and sometimes so leading

Honestly. I haven’t even finished the video and I can feel the energy. They need the mediator to be more present and need to help stay on focus, most importantly respect each other…

I think that that is what breeds new perspectives and new thoughts and ideas, personally

But this isn't a problem they have had before. With people like Scar and Charlie always off

@@rosemadder5547 no it leads to them dancing around questions and not actually answering anything

some of the prompts were too open ended... the conversation then leading to someplace else. And your spot on about the moderation with this one. This episoide felt like a quarrel between two arguably heavily opposed sides. This ep was a miss but then again , it covers a topic which has everyone divided.

This police brutality is just a distraction from Americas real issues.

@@zi.5515 idk about a miss it was very interesting to watch

@@gothicgolem2947 it's true that it was interesting but I still stand with the fact that it wasn't productive.

frrr these questions aren’t specific enough it’s just like having a prompt saying “cops are bad”