Well there’s other things like drinking, smoking, driving. A few things the government can control in regards of your body. So they might have been thinking about those
I love how the woman with the flowery shirt never belittled the teenagers. She argued her view but still showed love and compassion even if she didn’t agree.
And this is what people SHOULD do. It doesn’t matter your political beliefs. Me and my mom are conservatives, my dad is a little more conservative than we are, my friends are liberals, we all respect us and love us.
@@Wwasgudi don’t think you read their comment correct. they just thought the teens were liberal and was confused why a liberal disagreed with abortion, not why a teenager disagreed with abortion.
I think he meant that it's a privilege compared to other countries that have it worse. Which is true its impossible to go from poor to rich in other countries. In America some people have a head start. Some are born in a rich family others in a poor family. But poor people still have the chance to become rich or love a stable life here in the U.S Not anymore now that our "president" messed up our country with high prices of food, gas, and housing. F the dems and f the reps a At the end of the day there on the same sides
No fr though the female teen was the only intelligent one. The one with glasses barely spoke and when he did it didn’t add much value to the conversation and when the other one spoke he had nothing to back his viewpoints up so he resulted to raising his voice.
Ikr she acts like the fact men created that system makes it so it’s okay for men to be lesser… we should just all collectively agree that we have no clue. I’m not a woman so I dunno what it’s like to be a woman. And women aren’t men so they don’t know what it’s like to be men.
The father appears to be a classical liberal, not the *Americanized* version. It’s apparent that he is teaching his children to be informed and independent thinkers. In the truest sense, not the hyper, hysterical, politicized one.
him and his son were probably my favorite people i have ever seen on these shows for that reason and that chase was his own person and didnt automatically agree with the conservative side just because he identifies as a conservative.
State of California, NY, Oregon and Washington, Possibly Washington DC. On average 8 months - pre birth abortions is 0.5-3% of abortions (depending on the state) (average is 2%) There is 34.4 abortions per 100 births. There are 3.66 million births per year Meaning there is about 1 million abortions per year. Divided by 1M/50*5 (5 is for the states) = 20,000 meaning 20,000 abortions per day. 20,000/100=200 (get 1%) 200*2=400 (to get 2%) 400*5 for the 5 states that allow it. =2000 So there are 2000+ 8 month- pre birth abortions per year. in the states i know of that have no abortion restrictions.
literally. my parents split up and my dad payed child support until I turned 5 (I live w my mom 100%). she has struggled and he has the audacity to say the government payed for me, and I live in Sweden that has high taxes
He is against abortion, but wouldn't support the mother and HIS child. And Eden picked up everything her father told her during dinner. Her way of thinking is contradictory.
The question to him was poorly phrased, I think. The dad asked if he would support the mother for the child's life. It should've been "Will you support your child?" Because child support isn't for mothers.
I hate the abortion debate. They're always so focused on the sacredness of life but as soon as these children are born, they couldn't give two shits avout the quality of that life.
being a foster myself I hate when people try to use that excuse when they have no clue whatsoever how that is. they just throw words like foster care and adoption out there because they have no actual care as to what happens after a baby is born.
exactly, the foster care system not something you would want to be apart, and more often than not foster and adoptive parents are abusive and don't care about the kids.
@@hanniebananieee my best friend was fostered and her adoptive parents are extremely abusive. she ran away twice and they didn’t even notice she was missing until she called.
Its the fact that kids don't only get mistreated in foster care but they also go "missing" all at once (aka put into humam trafficking or ppl sell their organs) depending on what city that child is put into the system in
Not at all. Why take such a small subset of conservatives and black people. Neither would be able to provide a Viewport that the majority of black people relate too. Maybe white civil rights activists versus black or brown skinned folks who are in white supremacists extreme groups like the Proud boys
@@Laniya. could you link it please? I can see every liberal vs conservative and black vs white debate but NOTHING about black conservatives vs. white liberals
I'm assume you're referencing the mom in the blue shirt with 3 sons one of whom is trans? (I know she introduced herself, but her name eludes me at the moment) She's the only person I'm seeing as insufferable. Update: just saw that her name was Cindy....she's engaging in another insufferable statement.
@@original_angston4155 She spoke too much and wanted to dominate the conversation, but I didn't find her insufferable - I however found Nathan insufferable, consistently coming out with ridiculous statements with no logic behind them.
WE all benefit from the patriarchy. Men are 90% of electricians, construction workers, water management. WE(people in the West) have such concerning issues that gender is a main topic of discussion. While the rest of the world worries about famine, mass starvation, drone strikes, poverty!
@@donshattered9826 Last thing I am gonna say the USA still has poverty and why is it that equality shouldn't matter during war. So marginalized people's issues don't matter when war hits? No they actually should matter a lot more because they are hurt by it more!!!! Stop being a online bigot and open your eyes to a thing called empathy!!!!
These two things don’t go hand in hand. That implies that everyone who has been in the foster care system would rather have never been born…? Are they all suicidal? These two things are not opposites. And yes, I know what I’m talking about. I was in the foster care system. So were all of my siblings.
@@margaretjanec8484 I think sharing the experiences of foster care can open a lot of eyes (if the listeners are willing to). A lot of pro life people tend to have a romanticized image that all of these children will get all the help they need until adulthood, but in reality, as a country, we are letting a lot of these children down in terms of providing adequate support for an already difficult situation.
I dont think its about a romanticized idea of foster care. It's likely that pro life people believe that even a difficult life is a valuable life. That people shouldn't decide for another that their life would be too miserable and that death/non-existence is the better choice.
I actually also thought that. It might have been edited out but I found it interesting the teenager said he would support the mother until he was asked “financially” and then stumbled??? I personally believed if you want to have a child/want someone else to have a child, you better be ready to give up everything you have to support them instead since this is what they are asking for.
@@alyr767 To be honest, I thought he stumbled because she didn't specify that he was the hypothetical father, she only asked if he would support a pregnant women. I think he hesitated to understand what she was implying. Could be wrong tho.
That's not true, the guy is forced to contribute to the child regardless of whether or not he wants to. The girl can abort at any time and escape consequences, the guy is always bound to supporting and has no say is aborting the child.
I almost wish I had that with my parents. I come from a pretty conservative family and me and my father’s beliefs have been so opposing that it’s fucked up our relationship beyond repair. I just wish parents and teens could get along so well like they do. Would make the world a lot less hostile yk
Oh that’s not happening lol ha ha aha. Just like the trans boy that rapped a little girl in school and than the school tried to cover it up and just transferred the kid and he rapped another girl in a different school.
Ppl don’t realise privilege doesn’t mean just wealth. It’s having a loving family, being in a free country, going to school, having a family , having food, affording nice clothes that’s privilege not everyone has
I feel like they get defensive about privilege because it’s been used as a way to invalidate their opinions and arguments. I see people all the time try to enter a conversation just to get shot down because they have privilege.
@@superidol4670 I think different people here are just defining privilege differently. Your definition seems something like "privilege is a way in which you get special treatment", but I think others mean it as "privilege is any beneficial thing you have that others may not." It's not a moral judgement. It's not bad if you have privilege, but it's cruel to act as if everyone has the same opportunities as you when that's not the case.
@@alexandratremblay2211 try having a conversation with 3 people on the same side, not only is it much easier to talk to everyone in a triangular shape with 3 people 😐
@@catsnijckers yeah cuz all the other people have taken the places and she couldn’t sit anywhere else, but tbh, she could have sit there because it would have been easier to face each other since they were 3 people, so op might be wrong about the accusation.
after nathan mentioned child support, i knew everything else out his mouth would be horrible 😭 you’re supposed to support ur child financially without being forced too!! and tax payers don’t pay child support, the person ordered by the court does !
Which shouldn't be. Women have the choice, so should men. If women can have the option to opt out, then so should men. If women can have sex without consequence, so should men
@@keyiesjaarmand8874 Society has Literally made it acceptable where women can be deadbeats, and its OK, but men MUST have to stay. You people literally got me fkd up.😆 Women: "My body my choice" Men: My body my choice Women: *You weren't supposed to that*
and the one in blue was to some extend irritating, some of her statement make sense, but some were just ultra unlogical liberal opinion which she kind of wanted to force her views on others,
@@paolla3742 He's the one who said that America was a privileged country and that living in America was a privilege. Therefore, doesn't that mean that he is privileged? ....
@@rhettsalsbury9394 hahahhahaha I’m sorry but only American could say anything like this 😂😂😂 You do realize there is a whole world beside America ? Like whole Europe? Asia? Australia?
@@vegao22 I was conservative until I was 16 but to be fair I was really young and had no idea what I was really thinking about I kinda just went along with what my parents said lmfao.
Eden literally said she'd never disrespect anyone of LGBT+ and turned around and said "if the sun is not acted upon there is no problem and it can be dealt with." Translation: "if you remain closeted and I can fix you"
Although what you said made sense, as far as your “translation” saying “ I can fix you”, she talked about how she doesn’t think that we can convert anyone into doing anything. Therefore, saying I can fix you doesn’t really make sense
The real question is why is this considered abnormal, your sexuality shouldn’t automatically affect your worldviews and politicial stance. To be frank, the two have nothing to do with each other, so why is there this narrative that certain groups have to be aligned with a single political agenda?
@@Yams-Hams7734 you should study the fight for lgbtq rights, it obviously has to do with politics. every aspect of our identity has to do with politics
The bathroom conversation is infuriating. If someone is planning to sexually assault a woman in a public bathroom, they will do that regardless of how they present their gender. Such an asinine “point.”
But... a door and a symbol are extremely important for security!!!! You need to understand that rapists are extremely considerate and will only enter their designated bathrooms (obvious sarcasm is obvious)
@@juan95194 Fr because transphobes really think a r*pist is going to see an anti trans bathroom bill and think “aww damn I can’t assault people anymore!” 😭😭
Respectfully I feel as though saying "well women will get sexually assaulted no matter what" is much more of an asinine point. We should be doing everything we can to prevent this from happening. How hopeless to act as though we can do nothing to prevent it. If we accept men into women's bathroom, it does make it easier for men to get away with assault. I genuinely would like to understand how you don't see this? Not trying to argue but trying to understand because to me it sounds like you are way too trusting of men. There are multiple examples of this happening and men getting away with it by "identifying" as women. A rapist now knows he can easily go into a woman's bathroom and women are going to be too scared to speak out about being uncomfortable due to a fear of being "offensive".
bro who said that lmao i leave my house every day without a gun. America is definitely the best in a lot of people's opinion because there is a little something called nationalism. Citizens of almost every country think their country is the best. It's really not that crazy. Just like how everyone with a loving mother claims she's the best. Seriously, it's not that complex.
I went through pregnancy. It’s so hard. No woman will carry a baby for 8 whole months and think “oh yeah im gonna get an abortion” She did not go through everything that comes with pregnancy to just terminate it last minute unless its medically necessary.
It’s very rare, but unfortunately it does happen. And the solution for a medical emergency when a baby is 8 months gestation should be birth not abortion.
@@ashleyholder2218 you can’t always just birth a fetus if their life is in danger. For example, fetuses that threaten Fallopian tube ruptures, or in patients with diseases and the pregnancy causes blood thickening late into the pregnancy
Yeah, but a lot of people (on both sides) who try to get engaged without doing the work (understanding the issues) actually make things worse and make the work harder for real activists (the infamous “black square” event on twitter). Not everyone can put in the time and effort to actually be effective in politics, and acknowledging when you can’t or won’t on a particular issue is valuable (and more helpful than getting in the way of activists with poorly thought out and executed actions).
I mean you can if you want to. Many people burry their heads in the sand when it comes to politics. When you compare the minuscule impact of them getting into it, and the positive impact on their mental health from staying away, who’s the real winner And all the “silence is violence” or “their silence is their privilege speaking” is just an attempted guilt trip that doesn’t work
@@MrDB91 they mean that if someone is being oppressed and you're not doing anything about it that means you're literally letting them get oppressed = you picked your side against them
@@ghostsheet777 same! I was really liberal when I was like 14-15, but then 15-16 started becoming more conservative. But my family is pretty liberal though.
It’s the fact that when the parent asked the conservative teen male “would you support the mother for the rest of her life or the baby for the rest of its life?” & all you hear is nothing and him acting confused so you want a baby but no responsibilities, ohokay noted
That's the pro life people way of thinking. They only care the fetus to be born, they don't care at all what happens afterwards. They say adoption like it's a fairy tale to children
I knew someone like Nathan in highschool. Dude would argue with me that he didn't think women should breastfeed in public unless absolutely covered but also said he's gonna force his future wife to ONLY breastfeed. I had to explain to him some women cant produce enough and some babies can't eat while being covered with a blanket....cuz it's hot and uncomfortable. His argument back was "every woman can produce enough. She just has to try harder. And a baby will eat if they're hungry enough." EXHAUSTING
My plan was to breastfeed when I had my son but I never produced any milk. Not a drop. So if I really really wanted to feed my son bad enough he would have starved and died. That's just ignorance and wishful thinking on that guys behalf, not a clue as to what he is talking about and I'm a conservative who agrees with everything you mentioned
Ok can we talk about how compassionate and empathetic Ben was with the teens? You can tell he’s a great dad! He didn’t belittle anyone or make anyone feel bad for their beliefs. Ben you are amazing.
Any and all parents are to blame for every human problem on earth. Every parent, every problem. Go ahead and deny it, get mad about it. The truth is louder than your opinions or feelings. The madder you get, the more detached from reality you are.
as a teenager myself (not conservative and not living in the usa) it’s very interesting seeing for teens who are conservative and not just conservatives being portrayed as adults
WE all benefit from the patriarchy. Men are 90% of electricians, construction workers, water management. WE(people in the West) have such concerning issues that gender is a main topic of discussion. While the rest of the world worries about famine, mass starvation, drone strikes, poverty!
“I don’t want to disrespect them in any way, I just think it’s a sin.” That’s a direct contradiction. You can’t ‘support’ somebody and damn them in the same sentence
@@christophersalinas2722 thats the truth, if toxic masculinity wouldn't exist women would be permitted to enter every field in the military or work force and men would seek up professional help when needed. they would be more open about their feelings and well being and as a result, the overall anxiety they feel would drop. whats funny is that overall men are the ones who want to uphold the system as it is while most women want to change the perception of society towards its subjects (men, women and non binary included).
@@asmitabhowmick8427 1. Who benefits if the system sweety? Women do. And they hella fine with it. 2. That's not even relevant time what she made. She just contradicted her statement
I feel sorry for Eden, it's clear she's just reciting the things she's been told since a baby. She doesn't even seem passionate about what she's saying. I can't wait for her to go somewhere else at college. I was just like her.
@@seraphim7512 she doesn’t tho. she seems like she said this over and over again and she’s passionate about it because these topics directly impact her and her life. of course she’s gonna be firm in her beliefs and recite the same thing over and over again
@@microwaved_champagne honestly I think they were all pretty based, they were all respectful to each other and were willing to hear each other’s points. Only one I was a little unsure about was the chick in the blue shirt, I forget her name.
I wish they went further into the “transgender bathroom rape” conversation and asked the teens if they believe any woman who experienced that situation should be allowed to abort that child from that metaphorical rape they’re so obsessed with.
I wish they went into the transgender bathroom rape thing because that says people who are of different sex’s will rape each other. That makes it seem like it is a human need to violate someone sexually. Instead of “you’ll be rape” we should say “don’t rape”. I don’t understand the socialising of sex’s.
Agreed! It’s also really interesting how rape was mentioned a lot when it wasn’t even one of the questions. Like as a teen myself(same age as Nathan) I’m just wondering where they are getting this “information” that gender neutral bathrooms and trans ppl entering the spaces they feel comfortable in, leads to rape. Like where is the correlation?
People like nathan always make up the most random rare and statistically unlikely scenarios based off (in this case transphobic ideals. He said "one day they just decide their a women" like that's how it works.
@@jonathansmith8121 I can't comment on trans but I know that being gay isn't a choice because I've had enough female friends who lamented their heterosexuality because of how much they hate men.
Hands down the best one I’ve seen from this channel so far. Every single person was respectful and let others speak, and there was no personal jabs, unlike the other 5 I just watched that gave me a mild panic attack haha
I need them to bring these kids back in a couple of years to see what their view points are then. Especially Eden. She speaks with no conviction or confidence so it doesn't really sound like her thoughts are your own. It just sounds like what she's expected to say based off her upbriging
@@swagluvvr She's 16. Only a fool would let her make a choice that could permanently alter her life. But if her opinion is enough to start transitioning why isn't it enough to honestly disagree with you?
I hope Eden learns to think for herself one day. I could tell her points weren’t really *her* points. The boys seemed a lot more confident in their answers than her.
@@aleyha5604 she contradicted herself when she talked about Scandinavian countries and socialism, for a second I thought she was coming out as a socialist and then she turned around and said that it doesn’t work 😂😂😂
@@zia8248 living in America is a blessing. I believe he misspoke. The original comment implied that Nathan somehow exposed himself by saying what he did. When in reality he used a work incorrectly
As a European I would love to see an Americans sitting down with Europeans or Americans who immigrated to European Countries. The differences and the glorification of America being discussed would be interesting to see.
Agreed, while all my family is from America, I was born and grew up in Spain, and to be honest I would never identify myself as American. I would find that debate very interesting.
@@zachcary8623 and since when you cannot be disgusted with a constitution? I mean, there are some laws in many constitutions around the globe which are extremelly disgusting -_- Since when something gets morally acceptable just because it has a law? I mean, owning fkin slaves was legal at some point ... makes no sense
nathan presents a major factor in why many people view conservatives as stubborn and angry, he couldn't step back and let someone else talk for more than 20 seconds
@@daliam8715 i mean obviously, but as a queer guy I would’ve expected him to sit down. He literally said as long as you don’t act on your homophobia you aren’t a bad person, and used his sexuality to try and make his point more valid (which added absolutely nothing 💀) so it’s just really funny how he threw that in there like it made a difference
I believe that if u use this argument for either situation you should have some sort of middle ground opinion on either. U should believe in regulation and not just bainning or allowing.
Literally had to pause the video after every question and formulate my own answer/argument before continuing on. 🤣 took me like an hour or more to watch this video. You arent alone!
Eden contradicted herself by saying being gay "can be dealt with" but then back peddled into stating that you cant change who people are. She would def send her child to conversion therapy if it wasnt considered bad by society lmfao
It's very admirable for a young white lady to be strong and unrepentant with her opinions, I think it's very sad that you are making such an assumption about someone you don't know, and for the record I am not straight.
@@MD-hy9jv Its is admirable. But we cant not call out logical fallacies just because its an accomplishment for her to speak her opinions unfortunatley.
I dunno why everyone is saying Chase is so great. He is soooo privileged, that's what it is. He can afford to be apolitical and find others' belief to be annoying. He's the type who won't get it until it hits him.
💀 ok “child support” isn’t paid by tax payers dollars their paid by whoever got ruled to pay. My step dad himself pays 2k a month on child support OUT OF HIS PAYCHECK, not anyone else’s 😭
Men set it up because women can’t do those dangerous jobs. Even now women claim they want job equality but only in ceo positions, not gross or dangerous jobs that are mostly men
The kid in white talking about abortions just proved to every single woman out there that for a lot of these people, it can become a problem if they have to deal with it as well and as soon as it affects their lives.
The crazy thing is even if his GF wanted a abortion, if he really want a kid there is plenty to adopt. Nothing is stopping him from being a father. I wish someone would have mentioned that to him
100,000 years of human development. women need to be protected because women are more important to continuation of the tribe. a tribe can loose 95% of its men and still survive to make more future generations. the tribe dies if it looses 95% of it women. it's a primal and our society was based on that fact.
@@jeffallen1342 All of what you said is irrelevant in the modern world. Owning a house, living and raising kids is expensive. Men and women must work to get by. And we also have a overpopulation problem. We dont need to regress and go backwards by giving birth to more kids.
Listening to Eden genuinely made me sad for her. It's very clear that she hasn't formed her own thoughts about these topics and life in general. It's sad how she doesn't even believe that she should be allowed to make choices for her own body. I hope that as she grows up more that she surrounds herself with better people that will help her form her own opinions and not have such robotic views.
I also think she was nervous too Like it's hard being a teen and having to share your different opinions that are not popular On a RU-vid channel that people you know will definately see
She's an introvert and uses her words sparingly. That's not just because she hasn't made her own opinions. Everyone SHOULD listen twice as much as they speak
What makes you think that she hasn't formed her own thoughts? Haven't you watched the entire video? Just because she states an opinion you disagree with doesn't mean she has been indoctrinated.
the teen girl said she is against any and all sins but getting piercings and tattoos and other body "modifications" are considered sins. as well as mixing fabrics specifically wool and linen. and I wonder if she knows that and decides to ignore it bc she obviously has her ears pierced meaning she is actively sinning
Yall should do one with immigrant parents and psychologists, or young people who are going to therapy. That would be intersting especially since in many of those households, mental health/illness is seen as taboo (edit: I fully agree its not just hispanic immigrant households that this issue happens in, hence why I changed it to immigrant parents. )
I was literally thinking that Scott sounds like a great dad who would be open to so much and then they say that Chase is his son and that they have open conversations. That’s proper parenting.
If only these kids were grown so they can then ask them "Who made the accommodations for society?". They don't have the experience to be able to argue with adults.
@@Softboii.ConnorI feel like socialism would be massively more possible if people actually understood what it was and also understood what capitalism is
@@proffesionalvirgin919 it’s not possible. Socialism requires everyone to be altruistic. It’s a very precarious system that can be toppled over and exploited by a few people. Capitalism at least can punish bad decisions and gives people a path to the top
@@TheCelticsAREboss Capitalism absolutely does not punish bad decisions and never has. In fact, it is quite literally designed to reward people who are willing to step on the most toes to get to the top. Capitalism rewards greed.
eden’s vocabulary is all about her christianity my girl needs to learn more about the bigger picture more than the household she is growing up in. i lowkey feel bad
Ngl I believe she is a better Christian than what I have seen yes very brainwashed, but I feel as she doesn’t really know how she stands during these arguments like she is conflicted between two sides. P.S: Btw there is nothing wrong being Christian. What I’m saying is that she is still young and still has a lot to learn from her religion and from other people.
Or she's Christian and she believes in her faith??? If you believe in something then it becomes your moral compass and that's completely fine. She's not doing harm to anyone
Eden doesn’t seem like a bad person but I feel like she doesn’t have much confidence with most of her arguments that she most likely has been spoon fed given her religious beliefs
and is that a bad thing? Everyone has their own beliefs and assuming that she was spoon fed her beliefs is crazy. But aren't schools spoon feeding us with liberal views? but that is okay..