Are Beefy Subs Louder? | Myth Busted? 

You should check out Toby Speakers HITMAN - DUAL 10" its a band-pass I have had mine over 20 years nothing has come close to the sound quality, im running 500wRMS and blow away everything…

@@dillwack funny you said Tobey.i haven't heard of those since 1994 when I was in Washington state.i didn't know they were still around

@@jermainephillips5179 Good possibility that he has them from that year one never knows

Get Resilient Sounds 10" gold. I got the Resilient sounds platinum 18s and absolutely love it. I'm never upgrading my subwoofer.

@@RyanBassForLife those were another possibility , my brother had 8 of their 12”s in his Demo Truck . Thanks man !

Yeah I was surprised as well!

Rockford Fosgate a reliable company that's been making great equipment since the day they went into business people tend to forget about these brands and go with this new stuff thinking it's better because it's less expensive sometimes it is most of the time it's not

yes i was about to say that it depends on the coils how many there are so on and so forth i'm no audio car expert but yes i agree

The box was closer to spec for the tropo

Best to keep just one variable when comparison testing.

Check out both builds on my channel

Kicker does not play when it comes to sound, wattage, durability, quality, people are getting lost with these new brands forgetting how great kicker really is. they will never disappoint.

@@Mr.Robert1 only the square ones and the top of the line circle ones are good. Rest of kickers suck

@@ssjdavid Noooo. I have a kicker compR 12 on a 500.1 kenwood and it slams. I've had JL W6s to Punch power series back in the day and this one 12 hits so hard. People can't believe it's 1-12". Keep in mind thats MY experience. Others may not have been so lucky with these

Great idea!!

More power needed = more money to spend on electrical upgrades.

Yeah but the test showed the beefier sub actually got louder with less power in a lot of cases.

wrong yet again lmao watch the video

I'm running a single 13w7AE off a JL HD1200/1 amplifier. It sounds decent but not as amazing as I thought it would be. I'm tempted to sell the w7 and go for 2 or 3 x 12" more efficient subwoofers.

Well the tropos are awesome! Ive liked them so far

when i got my strato v2s on pre order i would have went with the 18s but they had the v1 baskets posted and they said they would offer recones and never did... only the mesos 8s had recones also the ts changed a few times on the same subs a couple times mainly rms.. my pair of strato v2 where good for a rf prime 1200.1 at 1 ohm but couldnt handle a rp 4500.1 at 4 ohm

Thank you man!! It will be out Thursday

i have the meso 15s they hit the lows pretty good but to me you can find better sound quality if you really don't care about that I'd go with em

Running two ozone 12 ct sounds they’re good good for the price

@@Furybeatsgme I like to go with a less common sub but would be lying if I said sq isn't an important factor. Price is important as well and they seem to be one of the more affordable ones on my radar. I have been leaning towards a pair of 15s tuned to the mid 20s but may just do a single 18 build with the low to mid 20s tuning. Thanks for the info. What sort of enclosure size/tuning/style and what kind of power, if you happen to know?

@@murrayshekelberg9754 I'm using a box 3 cubes per 15 tuned to 30hz, on a 3k I'm at half ohm, not turned up really i only have a brand x 250 amp and a auto zone platinum agm.

@@murrayshekelberg9754 but i wont lie they're loud and have some punch, but just a little inaccurate. an spl orientated sub for aure

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You mean stacked

But which are louder, the smaller women or the beefy women?

Heck yeah man!! That would make for a great test

I'd love to try out some hdx3s. The hdc3s are monsters and even with a 41 fs love the lows

Edit: also the t/s should tell you port size, box volume, and lots of stuff to help decide between one or another sub(as I'm positive you already know this lol) one could just go the Fi audio route and have a sub specd whatever t/s parameters you want lol but, that's big $$$

Thank you!!

Xr or xfl would be my choice , add a second rp1500 down the line and be good to go

Absolutely. The Tropo is more efficient. Also, the Tropo is geared more towards sound quality. But both are good drivers.

@@Chuck_Sanders On paper, the specs showed that the tropo was 2.5 db louder, but those are @ 1watt=totally useless for comparing subwoofers max spl. If you would have seen parkers results, in this video, you would know that the beefier subwoofer performed better on less power. And the gap would become greater with even more power.

@@evilinside5984 this isn't a "test" at all. The Tropo is more efficient, regardless. Higher efficiency drivers perform better in larger enclosures, where as less efficient drivers are suited for smaller enclosures. Using software like DATS and Woofer Tester to pull actual TSP'S woukd help him greatly. I have said in numerous videos, he shoukd purchase DATS or an equivalent program. And modeling the driver in enclosure software to see what the driver needs for enclosure volume, and tuning helps tremendously. Thus providing where the driver will reach full xmax, and or exceeding the xmax at 70-80% of the max power it sees. Youll also be able to adjust tuning, to get the port velocity(speed) correct, for the enclosure. Throwing two different drivers, in the same enclosure, isn't a test. Also, this is comparing apples to oranges. More efficient drivers, need less power to meet there performance goals. The fact that the Tropo held its own, against a "beefier" driver, shows that. Put them in the proper air volume, and tune them accordingly, to show a true test. There is more to a driver, than just being "beefier" and he gave a lot of incorrect info right off the bat, and the Fs is a useless parameter basically, and the spider isn't the only limiting factor, when it comes to xmax at all. Good video though, for watching subs play. 👍

@@Chuck_Sanders Even though this test is not optimal, it is very useful for the average person, who may not have access to a local custom shop, or be able to afford a custom enclosure. Knowing they can buy an affordable prefab enclosure, that mates well with a subwoofer, that they can get shipped to their door is awesome. Although it would be great to have 3 custom enclosures tested, the smallest, the exact middle, and the largest that the company recommends. Then test each model in all 3 enclosures. Awesome video, though. Thank you Parker!

Ok boomer. Theres better now

@@Luminous.Dynamics that must mean they make shyte speakers now if you need that much power!

@@thecman26 Lol. You wouldnt understand.

Whats soft? Not the suspension. 0.06mm/N is not a soft spider.

Yes but it's interesting to see the beefier sub got louder with less power in many of the results. Higher power subs generally have very stiff spiders. I always thought you would benefit only if you played them at RMS power.

Thank you!

Bang for the buck is true in many aspects of life.

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. Im thinking that the 10's need more power than the 12 for an accurate test. So yes, 750 watts to 1-12 will sound better than 2-10's with that under powered set up.