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No thanks!

Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones all needs to give monies back. Furthermore Joe, Justin and Josh are media driven concoctions. Media agenda to make face of NFL. In particular Joe and Justin who both don't win and don't lead. Both needs to be carried. Only Patrick, Lamar, and Jalen earned their contracts. They lead and win. Josh does win more than Joe and Justin so maybe he give half back.

@@aaronbutler9373 their "monies?" Do you even watch the NFL? Playoff Stats: Lamar Jackson = 68.3 PR / 900 Yards / 3 TD's / 5 Picks / 1 Win 3 loses / 🤮 Josh Allen = 99.6 PR / 2334 Yards / 17 TD's / 4 Picks / 4 wins 4 loses / I'll take Allen over Lamar All Day, Every Day!

@@aaronbutler9373 Your take is a "media driven concoction" Allen has the current highest completion rate @ 71.7% and #2 QBR Rating. Where in the actual FK do you get your data to form your weak takes?

They said that after the Steelers game too but when Baltimore wins they aren’t talked about 😂smh

@@michaelnance8917 Yeah I remember. It's a double standard for Black QB especially when they great

Facts facts facts

​@@rtv2324clown mentality. The best qb in the nfl today is black. Its just the media wanting clicks. Lamar is more worth talking about than herbert

They NEVER SAID Lamar didn’t deserve his money!! Y’all FOOLS BE STRAIGHT LYING!! 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I actually had no idea lol. In my opinion he might have been abit over paid. I know the market blah blah blah.

And the most game winning drives since he entered the league. Sounds like hes being put into 1 score games more than he needs to be . No hes not perfect and he had a bad game against dallas but lets not pretend he doesnt have a horrible coach with a horrible defense that constantly puts him into 1 score games

They gave a QB who can't win a playoff game max money 😂😂😂😂😂 Hilarious

​@@nickscaglione9906That isn't true at all. Why lie?? The stat is easy to look up. Mahommes is #1 at 51 and #2 is Rodgers at 47. Herbert fans got to make up stats😂😂

also best qb in terms of turn over worthy play %....career record let me know what qb with a bottom 5 defense is successful, ill wait for that list, you wont find one but ill wait regardless

He's wyte. They got excuses for EVERY wyte QB who doesn't win. Herbert hasnt won a playoff game in year for and people were all over Lamar for winning 1 game. They hold black QBs to different standards

@@RUTHLESSambition5bro get out of here with that. Why tf you gotta bring race into it

Zero excuses being thrown. Herbert is that guy. The offense has been great. They just always get hurt, and always struggle on defense

@@danielcopeland7365thats the only thing that makes sense to them. Dumb people

Because he’s white ???? Get over yourself …

I agree I think he has some work to do but every qb has a bad game look at mahomes bro got dusted by Denver and im a chiefs fan but even his games have been rough but nobody is saying anything because we’re winning

😂😂😂😂😂

And constantly fails the "throw for 350 yards and WIN" scenarios to up his development

@@FullMetalXV right lol has all the great games until its prime time and time for a breakout scenario 😂 too good to not pay and let go of, but too many bad decisions to ever be top 5 and win anything

You are crazy…Herbert is the best qb since Dan Marino…. Period!

You are crazy…Herbert is the best qb since Dan Marino…. Period!

Both really could be getting more. Some of it isn't exactly Lamar's fault but he has been hurt and has he won a playoff game. Herbert has basically been a rich man's Kirk Cousins. Lamar did have that MVP year though but he has been hurt what 2 straight seasons.

You spelled 2-3 wrong

​@@JesseLJohnson Lamar Jackson has the most passing yards all time without a pro bowl wr,in each of his last two injured seasons he was leading the MVP race,if healthy we could've potentially be talking about a 3 time MVP winner in his last 4 seasons 🤯

💯

Exactly

It’s cause they the last of the blue collar white boy story that Americans love same with burrow but he at least backs it up

@@AllWalksOLdoes he though?

Allen > Herbert any day of the week

@@eddieschus8204 Both of them are the same all stars and no winning

@@AllWalksOLY’all just love to turn everything into a race thing huh

One thing about shady he gone keep it real

@@Valid.4lup until it’s time to keep it Real about Hurts and the Eagles

@@Valid.4lno he’s not. When it comes to the Eagles he biased asf

@@terquanrush9414 to a degree but he tends to be fair

I do think shady and jones tend to be most fair but I still find acho hilarious I can kind of understand both sides to the argument tbh

😭😭😪🥲

Also saying justin herbet can’t finish a game when he’s second behind mahomes in game winking drives

yup... Finally !! If everyone else gets that treatment... He should too!

Exactly finally 👏

Pressure on Herbert? Have u seen the chargers defense since 2020? Stats wise is the worst defense in NFL HISTORY 🤡

Pressure on Herbert? Have u seen the chargers defense since 2020? Stats wise is the worst defense in NFL HISTORY 🤡

Pressure on Herbert? Have u seen the chargers defense since 2020? Stats wise is the worst defense in NFL HISTORY 🤡

Ppl either gloss over this or say hes the worst.. reality is, ourside of Justin Fields, hes in a worst situation then any drafted qb since 2020.. ofc he hasnt reached his potential

⁠@@losc.1587stop it lmao there’s several QBs who are in way worse situations

Stop making excuses!!! Ur QB is trash 🗑️!!! He’s a BUST !!! Stop lying to ur self ! The numbers are empty calories just like dak !!!

Defensive coaches don't make great head coaches with young QBs

Staley needs to go, Herbert's rookie year was better

@@TheInterestedObserver still Livin off his rookie yr like Dallas is with dak !!lol feel bad for ya

It's not Herbert, Its the Head Coach anybody knows that!

Didn't Mahomes only start 1 game his rookie year. Pretty sure it was only 1 maybe 2 games at the end of the season. So those TDs would be his first 3 starting years not his first 3 years.

They count the year Mahomes sat before against him when trying to use that to prop up Herbert. He does technically have the most TD's in his first 3 seasons. Mahomes doesn't have 114 in his first three seasons by the same scope. Mainly because he only started in two of those seasons.

@@Orphim well he had 50 then 26 ...so incorrect

Do charger fans still want Herbert over Tua at this point or are you ride or die ? :)

@@DenofLeosyeah of course we do. Tua wouldn’t do any better on the chargers and probably worse. Hill is the MVP of the dolphins and Herbert is the MVP of the chargers. Let that sink in

🎉 credit the defense ! Thank you!!!

More excuses for Herbert

@kivngken why would i make an excuse for the opposing teams Qb.... lol think before you comment.....shady said he wasn't pressured at all, which was a false statement.

If Herbert was pressured on 42% of his pass attempts, why was he sacked only once and hit only eight times? We're the Cowboys pulling up at the last moment?

Head coach and Herbert are not producing, giving the org there moneys worth. How about that?

@@marksucksmybird4456because he was evading sacks and throwing early. Which is why he was off most of the game

herbert and the chargers are throat goats

@Jit-Trippin spoken by a person looking to get popular. Funny go back to trying to get subscribers I'll keep watching football

so who missed keenan allen wide open for ez tds

He’s 27-27, at some point you gotta make something happen.

It’s not all on Staley. You have to hold players accountable and. And adjustments. Let me guess , you all still want Herbert over Tua? :)

Don’t know what you talking about.,😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

FTF better

@@Boomi_Doggiant facts

Bravo 👏. Let me guess , you all still want Herbert over Tua? :)

Hebert is my dawg bro. I love him. But he’s been cheeks all year this year besides the Vikings game. He Missed throws vs MIA vs TEN vs DAL and vs LV as well.

Herbert is great it just feels like he doesn’t show up during must win situations

@@Bighoodiekid he’s inconsistent. 2 years ago vs PIT on SMF he was OUTSTANDING. last years vs MIA (they were red hot) on SNF, he BALLED. He needs to be more consistent.

@@edgoat14 Herbert still has a top 5 QBR in the league and a top 5 lowest TD:INT ratio… He absolutely balls out more often than not. BUT, like I said, this was the worst single game Herbert has played imo, and I’ve watched every single one of them from start to finish. The defense did their job for the most part this game aside from blowing a few coverages (as they do EVERY game), but Herbert was just off this game and misfired on the throws that decide our games normally. He completes either one of those chunk throws to Keenan and the world is singing a different tune… my point is that our defense is BY FAR the biggest issue with the team on a regular basis, for which STALEY calls the shots. Staley’s GARBAGE defense is unfairly putting Herbert in these situations on a weekly basis where he has be Superman for us to win. Idgaf about his talent, the other side of the ball has to hold up their end of the bargain for the team to win. “Defense wins championships” right? FIRE BRANDON STALEY

This was the knock on him coming out of college and into the draft. He lacks leadership and clutch intangibles. Great talent but something is missing.

Herb missed**, not "misses".. 3 yrs of quarterbacking says he makes those throws more than misses them.. Purdy is not more accurate, he has better weapons, better coaching, better defense.. which=wins

but 100% the truth... Even Flacco had more succes

Dan Marino.

@@chadwickerman Herbert got a long way to go to be mentioned in the same vicinity as Marino! that's insulting! Matt Ryan & Philip Rivers couldn't touch Marino in his hay day. Philip Rivers never went to a SB & near will Herbert his successor. Marino went to a Championship, had no run game, & play with arm talent alone, & his defense we'rent exactly World breakers! despite both teams putting up record breaking numbers, the 49ers had to much talent in all 3 phrases, they were'nt the best team in football for nothing.

​@@ThePhins1972Marino also went from one HoF HC to another.

He has no choice. He has to be careful with his words bc he got made look like a complete idiot/bozo last year

Because he is a bozo

@@edgoat14how wha happened😆

@@drizzyy8363 watch the segment 👀

Playoff game Jacksonville excuse

27-27 mid

The coach and Herbert not producing and giving the org theirs moneys worth. You all still want Herbert over tua or are you ride or die? :) hahah

Hurts is a top 20 qb, turn top 10 with that line and wr. Burrow + Hurts both have not 1, but 2 wr who can take the top off..

Idt I've seen Hurts win a game. His team is just stacked...

while they are both better coached. Who is coaching Herbert?

@@sora4440 put the drink down or just say you dont watch football lmao. “ I never seen hurts win a game “ has to be one of the most insane hater takes Ive heard lmao. You gotta go into concussion protocol cause you showing signs of CTE with this take lmao

@@sora4440 if you never seen Hurts win a game , then do you mind if I ask for an autograph because you gotta be Stevie Wonder. Lmao

Im a phin's fan and im kinda tired of the comparisons lol. Both teams are happy with their guy, it's that simple.

Bro your doing exactly what they are pointing out your blaming everyone else not Herbert think about it this way a QB can go down the field 90 yards every drive and kick a field goal and end up with 300+ yards every game and lose a lot that’s Herbert stop bringing up stats dude literally can’t win games

@@kivngken I’m speaking facts? I love the chargers but in reality our defense isn’t the best it’s a known thing we need to be able to close out

@@Artyn00dles_ yea but your blaming just the defense and coaching like bro there’s so many games where Herbert has a chance and he fumbles

@@kivngken and I get that but I can name you 3 other TOP QBs who fumble and can’t come up with clutch plays to win the game and are concerned higher in the list that Herbert. It’s just one bad game and they out here bashing the man lol

Apparently people only care about this year to evaluate a QB but bring up Lamar’s MVP season

also had 57 yards passing in 30 min

Same. Once he wins this will be a moot point

he literally made the play to win the game the week before vs the titans

@@eslakerfan I'm not talking about one game though; I'm looking at his whole career. The playoff game against Jacksonville was probably the biggest game in his career; how did he let them come back despite being up 27-0? I know Staley is a terrible coach, but if you "that guy", you don't let your team lose that game.

@@peacewilliam-west2249he literally has the 2nd most GW drives since entering the league lol… But sure lets not hold Ekeler accountable with that -1 yard total in the 2nd half that Jags game in week 7 the season after. Or Dicker missing a FG that could have pretty much sealed the game. No let’s only blame Herbert week in, week out. It gives click and that’s the only reason.

@@peacewilliam-west2249 the game before that he went 40/47 3 tds to beat the Vikings

@@Markizinho Nah, that's just how we judge quarterbacks. The quarterback position is the most important position in all the sports; and whether it's fair or not, they get most of the credit when their team wins and a lion's share of the blame when their team loses. You said that he has the second most game-winning drives since he has entered the league in 2020? Fair enough, but have you ever considered who those game-winning drives are against? Of his 14 game winning drives, he beat Atlanta twice (Record: 4-12, 7-10), Cleveland twice (Record 8-9, 7-10), Denver twice (Record: 5-11, 5-12), the Raiders (Record 8-8), Washington (Record: 7-10), Kansas City (Record: 12-5), Philadelphia (Record: 9-8), Pittsburgh (Record: 9-7-1), Arizona (Record: 4-13), Tennessee (Record: 7-10), and this year he beat Minnesota (Record: 2-4). While 14 game winning drives is no trivial accomplishment because it is very difficult to win in the NFL, most of them are against teams with losing records. It's my fault for not clarifying; I meant when it's time to win big games, he doesn't make the plays to win. Unfortunately for him, one of the most important criteria that we judge quarterbacks on is what they do in big games. In the only playoff game he played in, he lost a 27-7 lead, and his team scored 3 points in the second half. There have also been winnable games against the Chiefs he's played in and couldn't get it done. When you combine that with the fact that he is 27-28 as a starter in the regular season, it's hard to place him in the elite category.

CAP

I’m on the Herbert train. Choo, choo!

I’m also on the Burrow and Tua train. Choo,choo!

Oulls race card, to prove he knows nothing

Bravo 👏. The coach and Herbert not producing and giving the org theirs moneys worth. You all still want Herbert over tua or are you ride or die? :) hahah

He just looked at the stat sheet and saw 1 sack smh

I mean he is right and I'm a cowboy fan.

@@captainchaosxx3866he’s wrong Cowboys pressured Herbert at the highest rate of his entire career

@@marcusrudolph5961 pressure /= sack. Example, you force a QB to run out of the pocket and a QB throws the ball away before getting sacked. that is a pressure. Win for the Defense, even if it isnt a sack.

@@captainchaosxx3866 you definitely didn’t watch that game because the stats tell a much different story

you should know by now bro......look as a broncos fan i heard it all with russ. dont let them get to you they gotta make they money talkin

That's what they do to wyte QBs. Make excuses excuses for them losing

Herbert sucks

But Justin has made Tua, Tannehill.and Dak look like da 2nd coming of Joe Montana amd Steve Young.

*NFL morning shows & analysts are starting to make noooooo sense to me:* *Scenario 1:* In the past 2 years, Russell Wilson has lost 6 games, that were lost by 3 points or less. *NFL analysts: "Russ needs to be cut. Russ is washed. Russ needs to be benched. He getting $250Million and no results."* *Scenario 2:* In the past 2 years, Justin Herbert has lost 11 games, that were lost by 3 points or less. *NFL analysts: "Its not Justin Herberts fault. He getting $265Million and he deserves every penny. Headcoach is trash. Defense is rubbish".* *And I`m like, huuuuuh????* 🤔🙄🤨😐🥴😕😟🙁☹😮 *WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??????* make it make sense.

I get what your trying to say but let’s say the chargers win, who gets the credit? Herbert or the coaches

@@mlh0598whoever does good

how about not missing wide open recievers multiple times fir ez scores

Maybe not but Minnestoa isn't good and is terrible on defense. So, there's that.

I'm not saying this was because of my critique , but I texted him, a while back, and I stated: why don't you ask the panel is Herbert going to have "no excuses left"-- as if Lamar had a superstar team!--after getting paid, like you had the nerve to say re Lamar's new contract? 😡What has Herbert done really, except lose? Nothing! He is one of the media's golden boys that's constantly overhyped and overrated. I guess he read it/or sees the light.

Thank you! They're so hypocritical.

@@thetruthisthelight0910 Right, I hope they see the light! Dope name btw..

“Keeping his teams in games” but is LOSINGGGGG stop making excuses

Yeah and he has a broken finger so he can’t really grip the ball nothing about that huh ?

@@jenv1234 on his non throwing hand... whats there to grip

@@jenv1234 on his non throwing hand yea sure that’ll affect him

@@ShinobiXXXBDO I’d like to see you throw a ball with a broken finger no matter what friggin hand give me a break you’re not just throwing it in the backyard with your buddy guys are coming out you full speed throwing you on the ground with a broken finger that can’t feel good

This is why we appreciate all the legends who have done it time and again. It ain't easy and only a few truly reach the pinnacle. Jim Kelly did it 4 straight times and lost every time imagine his story had they won all 4.

Lamar never was up 29 in playoff game and lost, Lamar vs Tennessee had almost 500 yards of total offense, Lamar has no where near a #1 receiver like this guys you named.

Who are the 2-3 players today?

QBs are a product of their team

dont ever put lamar in the same catergory with them other guys .. lamar does more with less if he had their receivers afc championship year in and year out

No they said that on the open throws the guy was open Justin Herbert is mid

@@kivngken nope they literally said he wasnt pressured just because they are going off sacks, they just further proved acho and the women know not what they speak of 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@kivngken all of acho points are debunkable, i think they purposely dont let them use factual stats to not embarrass him at this point

@@joshlugo5629 lmao more excusss bro Herbert is mid and has nothing to show for it but stat padding

It has an effect, in the sense you have to ignore pain, which messes with your concentration

Dak didn't get the exception when he broke his thumb on his throwing hand and making those INT. Herbert shouldn't get one either.(on his non throwing hand)

@@speeder1139 I'm a cowboy fan, so you don't have to tell me about Dak not getting a pass. Lol

Talking from a former athletes perspective, we all have to ignore pain at the top level at any sport, only the most elite players have the ability to ignore injury and perform at an elite level. The all time greats all did it. Our bodies break down faster from performing at a high intensity, a high physicality, and at that elite level.

Mental toughness is not something everyone has, it's extremely hard to train oneself for mental toughness. Ronnie Lott chose to have a broken finger cut off to stay in just 1 game, that is a level of mental toughness and commitment rarely seen these days and even less likely to be taught to the youth of today. I don't expect understanding of this concept, hope to give a sliver of insight. Most people give up/walk away when a given task only seems difficult let alone seem impossible. Greatness is birthed during the impossible.

Even with Daboll and Mcvay, if your quarterback doesn’t have the winning mentality then you can’t do nothing

​@@user-lt1fx2he5sYou taking Daniel Jones over Herbert?

Coach and Herbert not producing. You still want Herbert over tua :)

First things first clears

Please why did you remind me of Jeff George 😂

brady never won anything without a top 10 defense, just in reference Herbert has a combined 27 th ranked defense since joining league

@@joshlugo5629 Brady also didn't have Herbert's top 10 offense. If the Chargers defense is bad, then their offense has to win games. Like Mahomes did his first couple of years. Chiefs had bad defense but Mahomes was outscoring and outdueling the other team and winning that way. Herbert shrinks in every big moment we've seen him. How you score 30 in the playoffs in first half but can't score anything 2nd half?

@@sonikspeed19 mahomes has never won anything with a bottom scoring defense.....you see the correlation that no one has won anything without a decent defense, yet herbert is expected too, my only explanation would be that you think hes the best qb in nfl history so you have those expectations for him

Of course a dolphins fan would take tua 😂

as long as you know your future and are ok with that then... enjoy

Shouldn't have fired Anthony Lynn which also removed that great offensive staff 🤣🤣🤣.

Mahomes has never had a defense as bad as Herbert’s best defense my guy. He’s also had Andy Reid on his sideline you think he’s winning super bowls with Brandon Staley

Wow you’re dumb. Go look up Herbert’s defense vs Mahomes. Mahomes worst def has never been even as close to as bad as Herbert’s BEST def. You’re just ignorant.

@@Bandicoot19 Chiefs 2018 were ranked 27th in defense made AFC championship, Chiefs 2020 ranked 22nd in defense Won Super Bowl. Chargers were ranked 11th in defense last year and blew a 30 point lead that they had gained from all of Lawrence’s turnovers and having great field position. You can keep making excuses for Herbert but it doesn’t add up.

No bro he makes bad decisions and underperforms in the clutch

so now that Carr has a great Defense whats his excuse this time

@@ShinobiXXXBDO Dennis Allen is not an offensive minded coach.

@@marcusrudolph5961 Idk about bad decisions, just always wants to make the big play and needs to learn to check it down sometimes. And yeah clutch is one thing Derek Carr was special at.

@@yupman5252 hes too deep into his career to be trying to figure out when to check down. He tries to fire fastballs unnecessarily too, and leaves the pocket when he doesnt have to