I’d like to see a premium vs budget tire from the same brand. Example: Goodyear Assurance vs Goodyear Reliant. I’d like to see the differences between the tires and if the reputation of the brand matters at all
Or Continental vs subsidiary Barum, or Goodyear vs subsidiary Sava. But just because those smaller brands were accquired by Continental and Goodyear respectively and operate primarily as Conti and Goodyear factories now doesn't mean their own-brand Barum or Sava tyres aren't made using cheaper ingredients to achieve the lower price point (even if they use superseded Conti or Goodyear moulds in some instances). So for that reason, you'd appreciate why Coninental or Goodyear *do not* want those brands compared to their name brands, especially at a testing they are hosting at their test facilities -- it doesn't do them any good to have Barum or Sava look bad. 🙂
@@TassieLorenzo Good point 👍️ It would also be interesting to see how good are third brands, for example Michelin vs. second brand Kleber/BF Goodrich vs. third brand Kormoran/Tigar/Strial/Taurus. Those third brands in case of Michelin seem to be all the same tire/tread pattern, just different branding. I see them quite regularly on cars.
@@TassieLorenzo I've had Sava winter tires and those proved excellent on snow. Now running Sava all weather and so far they did a decent job on wet and dry, we'll see what happens on snow. It's important to note that my car is an old VW Passat and I make barely 10k kms a year with it 🤷🏻
@@butwheresthebeefput tigar on the wife's swift, the tyres on there before were awful in the wet and felt numb. Can't remember what they were as all were random cheapo brands. The tigars feel far better, way more grip in every aspect. So for a shopping trolly car, can recommend
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I'd be very interested in seeing a comparison between an old test winner tyre (something like a Pirelli P6000) and a modern budget tyre like Sava UHP2 or Nexen. Both new of course. I think that the results would be surprising.
I wish there was somebody like you here in the USA to compare cheap brands from places like Discount Tire and Walmart. You have fantastic presentation. Clear and concise and to the point! Keep up the good work!
Tyres are hugely underrated and a lot more goes into the design than people generally think. It makes me cringe when people ask for the cheapest tyres at the garage. Its literally the only thing between you and the road, and the science and development behind the top brands is extensive.
A lot of people fancy themselves as expert drivers and that they don't need decent tyres because their skills r so good, heck they probobly think they could drive without tyres at all
Great video. Can you do this test with medium range tires (Kumho, Nexen, Maxxis, Hankook) with bigger more sportier cars (19-20’) because thats where the high end tires become a lot more expensive.
@@tyrereviews I always refer to it when buying tires. Great site with plenty of information. I am currently considering Maxxis VS5 for summer tires, but I am not sure how they hold up.
@nikola0707 I've had the Maxxis VS5 for about 18m now on a Mercedes C250 and they are good, never had any issues. I read all the tests and reviews and I chose them as you seem to get the most tyre for your money.
@@tyrereviews reviews by average consumers , not test drivers , so I'd be wary of anything except wear based on kilometres driven . Average Joe doesn't know how much grip a tyre has when they're not driving them on a test track and comparing them to other tyres. Ps. I should know as I test drove cars for years .
I hope more and more people will open their eyes to how tyres differ in performane/safety. I am still stunned by how little many of my friends care what they put on their cars.
My son worked for a tyrefit place. He would often see people with huge expensive alloys put the cheapest junk on. They spent the money on looking good...not safe. Despite best efforts people don't think tyres are important. I am a 4x4 instructor (25y now) and was an on-road ADI (8y) as well. I'm just considered weird with a rubber fetish.
This is really what gets me triggered, some £500 shaitbox with 1.1L engine... I know it is not excuse, nor it really matters as it still gets to 70MPH on the motorway and still is unsafe, but at least I can see where people are coming from. But when I see £30k Lexus, BMW, Range Rover with 500HP and budgets... it really makes me mad. I have to often battle with the sellers as well, because how often do you see premium and powerful car for sale (even at dealerships) with like a set of Triangles and comment "all new tyres fitted"... as if somehow they making you a favour!
It is actually depressing when I see people with expensive alloys or prem cars and they are running budget tyres. You at least recommend them to go mid range brand as you kinda know they don't perhaps always do the legal limit. But the anger they throw back at you, just explains the depression. Tyres are just important as the engine size....
I've seen some idiot who owns a B8.5 S4 couple years ago when you can still buy them new and spent several thousands on a set of HRE and lowered the car with some bilstein coilovers. And he put a set of Lionhart around the HREs. Whoever does this kinda crap makes me wonder, are your HREs and coilovers are genuine?
@@lp9280 if you see how expensive tyres get with just one inch increase in size, you would know why they do it. Your average drive probably won’t notice much if a difference between budget and premium. It’s only going to be beneficial if they are put in a situation which the tyres save them on, even then, would they realise that they could have avoided hitting something in an emergency if they had better tyres? Who knows. It’s only when you see actual comparisons people can see a benefit. Personally I have driven on all budgets and I would still be fine to use two on the rear and premium on the front on a FWD car now as personally I didn’t feel they were bad, I’m only more inclined to get premium due to what I know. Taxi drivers and high milage drivers obviously will go for budgets when they are 50% the price if not more on larger sizes, plus nowadays many premiums are barely lasting longer in some cases.
I chose a small, economical car that fits my budget, so I don't have to save on tyres, windshield wipers and general maintenance. Yes, it is a small Japanese econobox. But it has served me well for the past 8 years and counting. If you must save money, you probably bought a second hand big car to impress and think you can have the luxury for a budget. You can't, unless you do repairs yourself or are very lucky.
Ive had many SUVs and currently waiting for my Civic Hybrid to arrive. Feels good to be back in something smaller, simpler and honestly - more fun and safe too!
@@technicalitems731 My current vehicle is a 2017 Rav4 Hybrid. I bought it used 2 years ago and while it is a very nice vehicle I noticed that I dont use its benefits that much. Thats why I now ordered a 2023 model Honda Civic Hybrid. Quite spacious inside, compact outside and it handled very sporty on the test drive. I averaged 4l/100km (~59mpg) on the test drive of the Civic e:HEV which was on a bendy mountain road uphill.
Likewise, I daily drive a humble 1.2L Yaris, but with some choice modification and judicious purchase of parts, it's quite a lot of fun to drive, even impressing some of my friends who drive "proper" sport cars. Also I don't really care about dings and scratches, while they get anxiety attacks when going around narrow streets :D
Great video as usual. But what I don’t understand is why tyre manufacturers aren’t legally forced to make tyres that comply with minimum breaking standards. A cheap tyre will kill some one, a premium tyre wouldn’t. How can that be right.
The problem also is that budget tyres could come with a "tender coat" which make them act very good on dry road... but only for the 1st 1000 km ! Behavior changes very quickly after (slide) and usually they do not have a very long life expectancy.
this is exactly what a friend of mine experienced with i don’t know which brand of tyres on his c220 avant (2012 model).. he said they were sooo gooood very good grip, why am i trying to buy falken or why am i trying to find something better and more expensive? well he made a roadtrip to turkey (2000kms 2 adults 2 kids fully loaded) and when changing lanes on the highway he noticed some sliding.. we’re talking about speeds over 170km/h :)) he bought another set next year
You’re right, I bought a set 6 months ago of a brand call Roadx u11 which is Chinese company related to hankook, next day I took a travel trip for almost 2200km in Saudi Arabia ( hot weather conditions) the tyers performed perfect I really noticed my car became much softer and quieter, but the story didn’t end here, for the next 4 months the tyers became harder and dryer as well as the noise increased, and now I’m struggling with the side wear in all the tyers and this make them more noisy and unpredictable
As a mum driver and uses motorway alot in all weather. Tyre performance is paramount. I always watch these tyre reviews when keeping up with info. Admit not great on the mechanics but I will try to understand. Last years mot, the garage informed me I needed front tyres as worn on inside tread. I have Turanza T005 on but garage said I should just put budgets on (never heard of em, even googled them, Davanti? ). When I said I drive motorway and in all-weather. They actually said that was all rubbish.😮 As it was an advisory, I went to a tyre place. Who then told me nothing wrong with my tyres.. Just needed wheel alignment. They even showed me my tyres... This year MOT garage rang me for yearly. I told them no thank you, on the basis poor misinformation regarding the tyre standards and sent them this link. 👍
Yeah, John Cadogen had a video several years back that came to the same conclusion about cheap versus first rate tires: “So, do you get what you pay for when you shell out the big bucks and buy the premium tyre? Yeah, you do. Undeniably. That time in the pouring rain when the kid steps out and you see them at the absolute last second, that’s when the advanced engineering of the premium tyre does its job and saves someone’s life.”
I always say that if you need to cheap out on tires, you need to rethink your priorities. Maybe you're spending more than you can afford in general. Tires and brakes are a priority when owning a car.
I went into a car meet one day and saw decked out tuned cars everywhere (LED neon lights, underglow etc.). Few drivers got so smug about my own daily grocery getter that wasnt even a sleeper and starter talking smack about me. One of them asked me to race, so i took a look around his car and he had like the cheapest second hand tyres installed on his decked out tuner car. I knew for a certain that this guy will either crash into me or into a wall across the track. I declined his offer which boosted his ego and had a race with another guy. He also had like the cheapest second hand tyres. They had a race around the track and suprisingly, none of them crashed somehow. It was a close finish but the one with bigger ego won. I decides to do few laps on my own after that and i was 7 seconds faster with my grocery getter. They had 100kw more engine power than i did yet still did better job at track. They complained that i had engine swapped, added turbo, increased torque, changed gearing or something but it was just me using Goodyear Asymmetric 6 tyres. Both tuners earlier were pissed off and increased their speed on track but no matter how well they drove, they had worse and worse lap times by tenth of seconds each time (Tyre wear had kicked in). They gave up later on and drove away. Kind of dissapointing that they didn't crash their cars but they sure as hell felt humiliated.
I have a set of wheels with Nankang tires I put on my GTI in the colder months so I don't "waste" my Michelin pilot sport 3S's and honestly there is something really fun about them. I can slide the rear out when going around tight turns and stuff. The car just feels really playful but not in a sketchy way that feels dangerous
Which Nankings though? I'd also love to know how your braking distance compares to, for example, a set of Michelin Cross Climates. Or since those cost more than some cars, vs decent moderately priced tyres like Falkens or something. Whether you should buy winter tyres obviously depends on where you live, here in the southern UK it's easier to just not drive on the 1 day every 5 years it actually snows.
That's why i bought PC7 (225/40/18).Driving the PC7 in the wet is like being in the dry. I drove the PC6 last season and was very happy with them, that's why I wanted to buy the PC7 because I saw on your reviews they improved wet grip even more compared to the PC6. When I press the gas pedal all the way in second gear in the wet, with the ESP off, there is no slipping at all. (211hp 280NM ). In the corner, I tried a couple of times to provoke the car and to squeeze a little more gas, but the car has so much grip that it is impossible to slide. My warm recommendation for these tires! Because of your reviews, I got the PC7 and I haven't regretted it for a second! Thank you very much! Greetings from Serbia!
I drive a set of King Meiler Summertires (225/40/18) on my mk4 Golf and for my kind of driving i am very happy. Most of the time i am just chilling and getting through traffic to get from A to B, not to noisy, fuelconsumption seems identical to the Contis i had before. If i step on the gas on some curvy roads i can feel how they get overwhelmed in longer corners, as he sai in the video. Accelerating is a problem with any tire with the 1.9TDI until mid 2nd gear and the contis where about the same, breaking seems identical too. I have a very short offramp from the"highway" here and it is, sometimes for fun, sometimes just not doable otherwise, a full emergency-stop there and it realy feels alright. As far as i can say these re-threaded tires are awesome for everybody doing just the necessary drives from A to B, absolutely usable performance and safe to drive for about half the price of a tire with performance the most will never use. For the track on the otherhand, i don't know, for fun short drives maybe good enough, depends on the model for sure. But for the people driving faster on the regular and needing every % of grip in each temperaturerange could work or not. They do sponsor or deliver tires to raceteams so somehow it does work but i am not in that space. For the fun weekenddrives i would still recommend them. Absolutely good enough.
If you want to save money on tires then find a premium tire on sale. Right now the Pirelli PZ4 are relatively inexpensive because they haven’t updated it in a long time. Other manufacturers have new tires that are definitely better but they are really expensive and hard to find. You can get tires like the Pirelli PZ4 for barely more than a budget tire and unlike the budget tire the PZ4s are actually a good summer tire.
@@tyrereviews in the Eastern United States. I got four 245/40/18 PZ4 tires for $680 after all of the rebates and discounts. Sumitomo and Khumo summer tires would have been $660 for all 4 but those aren’t as good. Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 tires are arguably better than the PZ4 but those were $880 for 4 tires and the Michelin PS4S were $1,000 for 4.
I see the sense in getting the best deal on any of the Premium brands and I've tried the next level down for winter tyres but in reality skimping on tyres [or oil, suspension n brakes] is not a good risk/reward for me. Starting my motorised career on 70s motorbikes even with Japanese tyres of that era certainly helped me figure this out.
I've recently put on a set of Rotalla Setula 4 seasons and have been pleasantly surprised. My local tyre place which I have been going to since I was 17 (and before that if you count in the back of my parents' car) recommended them and while I was a little sceptical I trusted their judgement. One trip round the NC500 in a heavily loaded MPV and I am still impressed as they have handled motorways, wet and dry high speed cornering, emergency braking and even mud and gravel without causing me to come a cropper. No doubt I could do better if I spent more but they were certainly a night and day difference to the 4 mismatched tyres that were on the car when I bought it and I never once felt like the tyres were an issue.
I've bought Tomket twice now. On two different cars, but both Mini S' And they perform quite well tbh. I did 4000 miles on one, and it was fine when I sold it.
When you see dash cam videos of people randomly losing control on a wet highway, now you know why. They are people who are completely ignorant of their tires. I only run premium all season tires and change them before they reach the wear bars, usually around 4/32”… you’re welcome other drivers.
Man I hate everyone in my family having the opinion that if there is legal thread depth left you should not get new tyres.. Just experienced a (safe) surprise grip loss last summer on a motorway ramp curve with my 5y old set of Goodyear UG perf2 tyres, which sounds exactly of the behavior that these cheap tyres do brand new. I gotta replace the tyres with new ones, but hate to once again get shouted at that I wasted my money. 😖 Cannot not say about the purchase, because there really can be a life saving difference.. *switched to winters soon after the surprise slide, that´s why summers not replaced already..
Yeah, modern tyres last much longer (thread wise), but perish in a few years (due to age). So it might be better to get great performing tyres that don't last long (thread wise), so you will get them replaced in say 3 years becaue of low threads (just as they start to degrade from age anyway), rather then getting very good tyres that last twice as long (thread wise). For example, I am thinking Pirelli P Zero compared to Michelin Pilot Sport 5 (or S5).
I've got a Fiesta ST MK8 and it had Michelin pro Sport 4 on it and it handled like a dream, I tried to be a cheap gate and put some Autogreen sport chaser and some runway sports on the car. It now scares the living daylights out of me, the handling is tripe, no communication to the driver, understeer, tram lining, they are coming straight off. Pay the extra and feel safe.
I think the biggest issue with budget tyres is a lack of consistency with "quality". Ive seen people rave about Three-A Tyres, and the next person slate them rotten. Its possible that When a "New" cheap tyre comes out the company builds them using quality products, then to gain money back they lower the quality of products they put into them. Or there is just no consistency in the products used to build them at all. Neuton NT5000's another one. Saab and VX forums rave about these tyres, they were the worst tyre I have every used, wet weather handling was terrible.
I remember the saab forums loving that tyre. Just because a collective mind says something it's good, it doesn't mean it actually is. All it needs is one or two people with no experience of good tyres to try and them post how great they are then everyone follows
I've never been interested in the cheapest tyres, I'm not interested now and I hope I never have to be interested in them. But I start watching each of your videos by giving a like. You're doing a great job for everyone. Thank you and... people - don't buy Chinese tires.
As pointed out, it's the wet grip that absolutely tanks with budget tyres compared to upper end.....it literally can be the difference between life and death.
I recently and reluctantly fitted Michelin’s budget brand and they grip far better in the wet than the P Zero’s they’ve replaced, I’m actually quite confused by it because they were half the price.
I bought triangle 16" tires once because i needed them yesterday at that point, i now bought 4 brand new 18" Continental tires for my summer rim set, never going cheap again
I've never heard of those names, but I have another list of really bad tires: Linglong, Sunny, Riken, Fortune, Premiorri, Aoteli, Zeta, Grenlander, Mirage, Mazzini, Star performer, Radar, Chengshan, Torque, Landsail, Minerva, Sunful, Paxaro & Diplomat. If you ask me, I'm more interested how the mid range model tires perform: Kumho vs Hankook vs GTRadial vs Falken vs Pirelli vs Good Year vs Barum vs Dunlop vs Bridgestone vs Nokian vs Vredstein and others that I don't remember right now... I usually vote for one from this range, because I don't really need the ultimate grip because I don't drive on a track or very aggressive.
Now its time for the video every one wanne see. The top 3 VS. GoodYear Eagle F1 6 VS Michelin Pilot Sport 5/5s VS Continental PremierContact 7 🎉 that wil be the video of the year!!! Thank you. You are the best Tire Reviewer in the world. Lets go 🏁🏁🏁
I've always owned powerful cars. From my first, a 1954 Oldsmobile Rocket 88 which I owned in 1963; through Rolls Royce, Bentley, Jaguars, Mercedes-Benz up to my current Lexus GS300 SE-L. I've also raced for 60 years, so I have a little knowledge when it comes to tyres. Much of the handling characteristics depends upon heat generation. A well-warmed tyre will always tend to give better grip, comfort and stability than a cold tyre. This is of course due to the generated heat causing the tread surface to become softer and and adhering better. Back in "the day", many amateur race teams achieved great success on Colway racing remoulds. They were brilliant but very short-lived. I've used "Continental" brand tyres and they're excellent. My Lexus is on 245/40/18 Hankook tyres all round; and they suit the car perfectly. So, in my opinion, heat is a key to the best handling. There's little point in paying too much attention to compound grades when it comes to general road use. You're never going to be running anywhere close to racing heat; so my advice would always be...drive using common-sense and care; watch your pressures very carefully, and never, EVER race on a public highway! Great video, you clearly know your stuff. Sorry about the demise of your good friend - but he was standing in the middle of the road.
Im a big fan of uniroyal rain tyres. Always raining in the UK and these Always feel planted and sure footed. They are a soft tyre and wear out faster than some but they are very reasonably priced compared to higher premium brands.
It's not always raining in the UK. It stopped for a couple of hours last week. I'm working in Wales this week, and noticed that the front tyres a just above the legal limit. I've ordered a couple of premium tyres. No point skimping. Premium tyres last so much longer they save you money in the end.
You never mentioned how long the tires are rated to last. A lot of the cheap tires only last 20000kms so if you drive much or keep a car for a few years they're not that cheap in the end as the more expensive tires last 3-4 times as long. There's a local dealer selling very cheap chinese tires, a few of us tried them once and wont buy them again due to the super fast wear.
Just touching on the Nankang quickly. A good few years ago now a friend of mine, along with a bunch of other British lads, went to SA to race their 2.0 hot rod oval track cars. They used the SA control tyre which was this cheap Nankang thing. My mate absolutely loved them even though they couldn't get near the pace of the British control tyre (Hoosier Street TD). He said they were just fun, break away was more progressive, lasted longer (even in the Africa heat!) performance didn't really drop off when they were a few races old and above all they weren't Hoosier money 😀 good old Nankang. Crap, but somehow endearing.
In my opinion, budget tyres definitely have a place in the market because, from experience in the auto industry, there are people who struggle to make ends meet. And those people may just write off new tyres all together and drive on outright unsafe tyres simply from the mindset that they cannot afford new tyres. I would rather fit a set of brand new no names onto a single migrant mothers car for $240 rather than send her away with a quote for $640 knowing she wouldn't just come back, but likely not visit any other shop in fear of the same unaffordable quote.
This, we can't all write off the budgets all together because we're just a bunch of car enthusiasts. They have a place for people who are just trying to make ends meet.
The question is why would you make a child having no money and risk child’s life by using these shitty tyres with crazy braking distance? Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walkie!
I disagree... because they only saving money in short term and even then the saving is not that great. Honestly car ownership is very expensive, insurance, road tax and even fuel over the year way exceed the price of the tyres and overall it makes minor difference in cost of ownership, but major difference in safety. The biggest problem which is not shown here is thread life, so not only these tyres are literally unsafe on the road, but they most of the time end-up costing more per mile. Put on the Michelins and they likely to last 30k+ miles, most budgets disintegrate in 10k... So here is the math once per 30k miles you can pay £90x4 for Michelin = £360 vs. £55x4x3 for budget = £660. Where are the savings? And that is before we even consider that worn premium tyre retains at least some of the grip, whereas worn budget is completely unpredictable. I know it may sound cruel, but if one cannot afford the tyres, then I don't think they should be on the road... simply because we should ask question - what else critical to the safety they could not afford? And by the way - I am not saying just buy Michelins, but there are plenty of "mid-range" brands that are not outstanding, yet they are at least safe. Take Kuhmo, Uniroyal (Michelin), Gislaved (Continental), Sava or Debica (Goodyear), Toyo etc. Often they are like literally £4 more expensive than most trashy budgets, but they have twice the tread life and they are at least "safe". And by the way - I can sort of look past the budgets on some £500, 1.1L shaitebox... but how often you see £30k BMW, Lexus or Range Rover with 500Hp for sale with set of budgets?! What is the explanation here?
@@hohloyumor Yes I know, but I had to walk away from several cars and they thought that I am the one who is unreasonable! It literally happened in the dealer, where I was looking at premium nearly new car and I said, I will buy it, but I either want £1500 discount or they have to replace tyres... and they were like "mate, those tyres are new, they are road legal, you are unreasonable here"... road legal my ass! They have thread, but they literally have no grip! That is why I think they should be made "road illegal", else there will be always be greedy people looking for suckers!
Great content. Thanks. My worry is the person behind me, driving his very old big car, 5 metres or less from my rear bumper, at 75mph. His car isn't properly serviced, and as it's a BIG car, those big tyres are just so expensive. Solution: buy some really cheap and dangerous tyres, and save money by running them until a bit of the tread is totally gone.
I used to buy continental EcoContact 6s but they was £65, this time they was £85, I decided to try a pair of Hankook Eco 2s for £65 and they seem pretty well matched to the continentals, funnily enough the tread pattern looks very similar and apparently the Hankooks have better wear but I'll believe that when they need replacing (assuming they last a few extra miles).
I'm 22 and I've been driving in a 1999 Nissan micra for the last 4 years. It lacks ABS and it's fitted with the cheapest tyres I could find (£150 for the set) I though it was ok since they are relatively new and have a lot of thread depth but this video opened my eyes
Hopefully, this review will encourage people to think hard about tyre choice. The difference between 4 Contis and 4 Cheapies is about £130. Times may be hard, but that is not a large sum, whichever way you look at it.
340+ comments in 8 hrs since the post…. Wow! This was a topic of interest. I surely clicked on it because of what it is about. This is the perfect video for the naysayers. Love it!
I had been waiting for such comparison for very long time. So thank you for that! I hope you are able to make comparison with worn out premium tire and brand new budget tires.😉💪especially for winter tires.
Another great review. Thanks to you I bought a complete set of Hankook Kinergy 4S2 before the winter for my Ford Puma and although a little less rewarding than the OEM Goodyear's on the dry they are a great choice on light snow and wet roads.
I use a very cheap allseason tire. ONE very cheap allseason tire. as a spare. the last spare was 10 years so it was time for a replacement. in these 10 years I used it once. for like 3 kilometers from home to tire shop, getting my good tire repaired, back home and change it out. for like 8 minutes of driving in 10 years I'm sure a cheap one will do. ONE cheap one.
I think the battle is explaining that no, cars don't just drive like crap inherently, it's the cheap nasty tyres. If someone has driven on half-bald Landsails their whole life, how are they going to know how their car would/should drive on good tyres? I always advise anyone not willing to spend the money on premium tyres to at least buy midrange. Avon/Yokohama/Kumho. All not quite as good as premium but much closer than budgets.
Seeing how terrible the budget tires are in the wet, is proof enough why i stick with Premium brands. Its the most important aspect of your vehicle apart from brakes.
2:25 I couldn't help but laugh. That sounded like the mysterious death weapon from Battlefield Bad Company 2 🤣 I always say, when it comes to cars you should NEVER skip out on oil, brakes, or tires
These videos help get a general idea of which tires I would want, but I would like to see some use on regular roads that have bumps, highs and lows, and different angled corners.
I bought a used car with Landsail Sentury Qirin 990 on, and to be honest I never checked what brand or model it was. My experience is that they do the job with nothing that stands out in a bad way, which is why I bought a new pair now that the old set was worn down. I know now how they work which made it a lot easier to choose these tires, but I will be honest and say that I'm not sure I would even look at them if I did not know given they are socalled budget tires. What is so often overlooked is that you have to always drive in relation to what car and parts it is rolling with, and what road conditions and which season it is etc. You will get used to driving on winter roads with winter tires when that is the case and you will get used to driving with summer tires when summer is here. What is necessary for most people is simply a matter of what you feel confident in, and you won't fully know until you have tried this or that. Personally I have no issue paying what quality cost, and the quality has to translate to your actual needs. I will admit that you should be mindful with things that cost less, so do your own research. Sometimes it can be utter garbage and I do know that, I just had to question myself this time when I had to get a new set of rubbers because I honestly have not had any weird or dangerous situations with those tires. My experience is that I just haven't thought about which tires they were, and that is a testament in itself that they at least must be good enough for normal driving with a family car. As I said, do your own research because it's not always bad.
I am thankful I learned the importance of planning ahead for safety. I also don't buy the cheapest fire extinguishers possible just because of the great probability of never needing top line performance.
Great Review. PLEASE do this, but with all the other cheaper-mid range tires, like Khumo, Nexen, General, firestone, hankook, etc. Brands that aren't stupid cheap, but cheaper quality level brands. Personally, would love to see 2 test. One for UHP All Seasons of these brands and 2nd, Performance Summer (not max super summer), for these brands.
I find it almost impossible to believe a retread is still available. Aside from truck tyres specifically made to be retreaded, they are illegal here in Canada. For one thing, the carcass is not meant to outlive the factory tread. About a decade ago I had an interesting experience. I bought a set of Pirelli P3000 225/70R15 98H. The same week a coworker bought a set of Daytona tyres in the same size, but S rated. He paid $25 more per tyre for a "budget" brand than I did for a premium brand. About 6 months later I bought his car. I put on the Pirelli tyres and gained almost 100 miles per tank of fuel. The grip was miles better, too. I just yesterday purchased a 2004 Toyota Carolla, my first front wheel drive car. It is getting Nokian Haakappilliitta winter tyres tomorrow. They are by far the best winter tyres I have experienced in over 45 years of winter driving.
When I was working , Hgv 1, I had a MERC artic, did 160k on Firestone tyres, when they were done, Triangles, same truck same driver same work 50k kilometres, Double coins, well we sent them back so bad they should not be allowed in the country.Yes cheaper, but how much is a life worth for me premium all the way.
Fun fact - I put Dunlop SP sport on my MKV GTI to replace the factory Contis. They were horrendous on everything except wear. Replaced with Premiumcontact 5 a few years ago and they were light years ahead of the Dunlops. Something often overlooked is that a cheap new tyre may well feel better than a worn out premium tyre at first, but that's a massive deception. Go premium - only 120 quid more than the rubbish stuff.
I recently got into a car accident. It was stupid one actually because I wasn't going fast at all at an emergency brake the car didn't stop just kept sliding forwards. I have new brakes but tires are cheap. Learned my lesson
I’ve just recently got my hands on a set of DOT4922 Eagle F1s size 225/45R17 for 344€, which is a steal imo. A set goes for 428€ at the local shop. So you can get good tires but you’ve got to go go the supplier, call around a bit, go get them places.. the most convenient solutions are usually the most expensive.
Your videos are the reason I completely shifted my tyres buying habits, I was Michelin only focused, (PS4 / primacys) but thanks to you, I bought 3 sets that I love. A set of GY Eagle F1 SS for my Week-end car, that are AWESOME PERFORMERS, hugely better than PS4 for comparable price, a set of Continental PC6 for my daily in summer, that have better response than primacys, and a set of Vredestein Quatrac Pro for winter. I live in south France near Monaco, high temperatures in summer, heavy and sudden rain in spring, and moderate cold in winter, with constant wet roads. Love them all, fit all my needs and expectations, all nice looking and great performers. Thank you for your hard work, I enjoy every episode
You know what I'd love to see? If you found a set track and did all your laptimes on it whether it's a touring tyre or a slick tyre. So we can truly see the difference. We know which class is faster but it would really be cool to see exactly how much faster for comparison sake. Like top gear with their test track, we can see how much quicker our wheels are if we have an M2 now compared to if you came from a Fiesta ST in the past. Because I know a lot of people are in-between considering an UHPT and a semi slick. But it's hard to compare sometimes because you do tests on different tracks or different configurations. You do of course do a cross over test like this. But every tyre in these classes have been tested over multiple different tracks making it hard to compare everything.
I would like to see a video in which you compare a premium all-season tire with a budget summer and a budget winter tire in dry, wet and snow and at different temperatures (0-35)Celsius.
All I’ve found with budget tyres on family’s cars is that they just don’t last very long. I can almost guarantee that the cost per mile is way more than a good tyre🤔
I really think the areas on a car you do not skip out on maintenance items that directly impact safety. Tires are probably the biggest thing you do not skip out on. Brake parts themselves aren't really super expensive. It's always the labor that racks up the bill on that one so I really think going OEM or better with brakes is always the way to go.
I run UHPs both summer and winter on my 1.4 TSI Golf, which sounds like total overkill but, my god, they can stop on a dime. That being said, I've been almost rear-ended several times by drivers on cheaper tyres haha
Its all good until the premium brands abandon the smaller sizes completely, forcing you to go from 15 to 17-18-19 for anything decent. Much fun. And I don't want to go up due to multiple reasons one of which being preserving the originality of the car. That said, i've never heard of the other budget tires in the video besides Nankang haha
I hope to god then that 205/55R16 tyres are around for a long time because in the UK they are highly popular and a great all round performer on my Toyota.
@@zstation64 not if they’re from a reputable tyre dealer. I have used them on older cars for years. You know by looking at them if they’re damaged. I always check them thoroughly.
Might have been already asked. Difference between the best of the budget tomket and the cheapest of the "known" brands as these usually only have a price diff of around £5 per tyre.
One thing I don't scrimp on is tyres. Three cars on my drive have Rainsport's and PS4. I hit a flooded motorway in the dark at 70mph with rainsports, lifted off the gas straight away, light braking and came to a stop quickly without aquaplaning. Pretty sure I'd have been in a ditch if I had budgets on.
@@tyrereviews it’s about time legislators caught up with tyre technology and got some minimum performance standards introduced/reviewed. Perhaps a video subject in what tests tyres have to meet?
The yokohama advan apex v601 is a bargain of a tire. Bought a set of 255/40R19 at $167usd. And could not be happier. Grippier than anything at that price point. Especially for anything sub 200 treadwear
I use to own a tyre garage but had to close it down due to the amount of pop up part worn places and scrap yards selling wheels and tyres . More than the cheap imported brands . I couldn't compete. With places selling tyres fitted from £10 when that was the cost of a correctly done legal puncture .new valve and wheel balance .
i have experience this luckily not during an emergency. sometimes even tires installed in a brand new car are complete garbage. really a good a idea to buy a reputable brand tires.
I've been preaching this for years, no one seems to listen though. 😂 Even though they're expensive, I always enjoy nerding out on tyre specs before I buy 😅
The irony is budget tyre advocates are very unlikely looking around for tyre reviews for their budget purchase. The results blew my expectations though, half the price is not equal to half the performance. It is very enticing for some people who only drives around in a crowded city that barely moves faster than 50 km/h
I have decent history of watching you and I'm always surprised again how 'budget' means basically chineese/noname. But I know from 1st hand, that this is pretty normal in UK. Which surprises me even more, if not scares. I live in Poland, which is a few times poorer than UK, but we basically know that you can buy budget rubber but from western producer, but avoid chineese at all cost. This is what would be interesing for me, your opinion about cheaper european (and american too) brands (like Birdgestone - Firestone, Goodyear - Debica and so on).
When I bought my second hand Mazda2 it had new-ish HighFly winter tyres on the front and older Continental winter tyres on the back. It was absolutely terrifying to drive in the wet. I almost understeered in the ditch getting off the motorway doing 40km/h.....40 in a turn I would easily take at 60 in my moms Clio that had Hankooks allround. As soon as there was the slightest amount of rain, the HighFlys would feel like driving on back ice. I'm amazed those things were even legal to drive on, they were absolutely lethal. So many times i would enter a roundabout at normal speed and understeer immediately, almost going off the road. Upgraded to Bridgestone LM005 and the car was completely transformed. All of the understeer problems went away, the car is much safer and more enjoyable to drive. I will never ever buy budget tyres, my life is worth more than the 100€ or so in price difference.
Not all budget tyres are the same. There are some that are owned by the big reputable brands or made in the same factory as some of the bigger brands. And just because its a chinese brand, remember that the parent company is no doubt incredibly wealthy and can afford the latest technology. Or they can source really good quality natural rubber in Asia and be made in a factory that has close to 100 years of experience and has had government contracts etc.
I would love you to do some tests on van tyres. Especially with some loaded and unloaded tests, and include budget and all season too - so many vans on the road on horrible cheap tyres as they are bought to a price point rather than a quality point
When you're young or into drifting you live on part worn tyres lol Never had any problem's with them. Had a cambered bmw that needed a new set on the rear every few weeks. Went so often I became friends with the shop owner, and would just pick whichever tyre had the most tread left. I put 85k miles on that bmw it in 4 months but, so keep that in mind 😂
