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@@loreslores7116 Wiadomo jakich. Kleberka i debicy! Great review Jonatan as usual! I am still on Kleber quadraxer 3 and the second winter still ahead of me. I am pleased that Pirelli sf3 impressed you as in all your vids it was a bit neglected and underestimated. Now some improvements have been impemented so hope to get a good feedback on Pirelli. And for those who want a good set of tires for snow I do recommend kleber Q3 theay are underestimated bbut do a great job on every kind of snow. Ya said if ya wont to a good tyre for snow go for winter tyre. I dissagree. Kleber does the job well so as CC2 does.
I totally agree with you! I’m kind of special that i have three sets of tires (i have a garage and all the tool a need). I have what you call summer tires (or sport tires), winter tires for Swedish winter (in Stockholm) the Michelin X-Ice North 4 studded tires but also the Michelin CrossClimate 2 that i use during fall and spring. And lett me tell you! Im very i am very impressed of how the CrossClimate performs in some conditions (compared to my studded tires). They have a very firm grip on both ice and snow. The only times they fall behind is when its icy on the road and im going upp or down. In those situation i feel not really secure all the time. In those conditions the studded tires are almost like summer tires in feeling of grip!
Just had Goodyear Vector 4S Gen 3 fitted on my new car. Had them on my previous car and my wife's car. The only thing I can say having tried Michelins and Bridgestones throughout the years of driving in all conditions: this is the king of all seasons. Amen.
@@Alencekas agreed! Have them on my Citroen C5 X7 (it's a heavy tourer so needs XL tyres) and i'm using them since mid 2021, did around 45-50k km(i would need to double check). Great tyres, saved my skin quite a few times! I feel like they are a better allrounder than CrossClimate 2, especially since they apparently also last longer.
Had them fitted to mine. The only flaw with them is how they'd get chronic understeer under sharp steering input (think a quick medium size roundabout). Load them up a bit more gently and they aren't far off in performance from the Eagle Asy 5s I had on before them
@@tyrereviews Will be interesting to see what they produce. On the tyre reviews website the Gen 3 beat out the Michelin, Continental, and Bridgestone in overall performance. I'm surprised they're not considered the de facto standard these days. Thanks for all the videos, your channel and website are an invaluable resource.
One thing that people who are against all season tyres forget, is that the real main advantage of those is when you live in a climate in which you can have wildly different weather and temperatures within two, or even a single week. For example Poland or Germany. In Winter you can have -5 degrees C and a lot of snow, and very next day you can have +5 degrees and rain. And week later you somehow get +15, which can also be wet. Unless you plan on changing tyres every day depending on weather, all season will be better - it's much better than winter tyre in warm/wet conditions. And the difference is bigger then, instead of difference in most snowy scenario(which you also very rarely get in urban areas, unless you live in mountains). Same with competition against summer tyres. It csn be really bad in transitioning seasons, like early-mid spring and mid-late autumn. There's often a mix of high temperature days(for example 25 C) and suddenly a few days with minus temps. One thing you NEVER EVER want to do is to use summer tyre on cold temperatures, and a lot of people seem to either forget or simply not know that.
Good winter tires will work not much worse under the same conditions (early-mid spring and mid-late autumn). So it's rather about summer performance vs convenience. And yeah, I agree with you that the main focus should be to NEVER EVER use summer tires in cold conditions.
@@illiaal1268 the general rule here is to change to winter tyres when temperature drops below 7 degrees. Now, in the morning, when people drive to work, it's 6 or 7, but no one change tyres from summer to winter yet from what I see.
I now fit Cross Climate 2s all year round and I’m just thrilled with them. Two years ago in a decent snowfall (6”, this is England after all) I went out to have an evening drive about in my Skoda Yeti 4X4. It was great fun! Coming out of a local town situated in a valley, and bypassing the mayhem of stranded and sliding cars on the hills coming out, I met a couple in a Yeti coming the other way. We stopped and had a quick chat, they were on winter tyres and doing exactly the same thing. Just driving in the snow for the sheer joy of it.
The Michelin CC2 sold in EU are not good in durability. The Thread is literaly disappearing too quickly. Was impressed in snow myself but they are not lasting much. Will not buy another set and will go a bit cheaper . Is not worth it . And new they are like 7mm. Bollocks..
I've been purchasing my tyres according to your recommendations for a few years now and never been disappointed. I replaced my wife's summer tyres with Michelin CrossClimate 2 three months ago and I have CrossClimate on my SUV. I will have to look out for the Pirellis i future.
Having the winter and summer tire data is great! Really shows you what the tires are actually like, not just what the manufacturer calls them. I'm getting a set of goodyear ultragrip ice 3 nordic friction tyres for my car this winter season.
I bought the Continental's to fit on an 18 year old 3 series a couple of weeks ago. Really happy with them, great tyres. They transformed the car massively. It was either these or Pirelli's.
Thank you for this! I think testing a group of tires WITH the added context from 2 contrasting tire categories AND in multiple traction scenarios, is SUPER interesting.
I definitely would have liked to see the Hankook iON EVO AS tire in this test. That is an extremely popular tire now because it is so incredibly efficient and it has a great tread wear rating. However, there isn’t much data yet on how it performs in the dry, wet, and snow. Please, test that tire as soon as you can. I have that tire in the 235/45/18 size on my 2024 Highland Model 3 Performance and it is an outstanding tire so far. Efficiency is just incredible with it.
Also interested I got them after I saw a model 3 review of them on my rav4 prime. Quietest tire I’ve ever ran and I got 1-3 miles improvement, better warranty, and better grip over the oe Yokohama ones.
This is one of the only things I’ll drop what I’m doing to watch. Fantastic test across a huge variety of conditions - this is as real world representative as it gets!
As a Vredestein QT pro all season user, I can confirm the results. It's soft, ok to drive in dry, really good in wet, and I haven't tried it on snow apart from getting out of the driveway (which I had no problems with). The only reason I have them is it was the best tire I coud find for 275/35/19 in my area... But for the money, it's ok. I will however try to switch to Continental or Pirelli next time, if I find them. I don't need snow tires anymore, winters are getting hotter every year.
Good stuff!! I bought some Cross Climate 2 a couple years ago. It used to snow a lot in Syracuse, NY, back in the old days, a few years ago. No more. So, the snow advantage goes away. Next will be those Pirellis. Thnks.
Just bought the Pirelli's based on your test from earlier this year, happy to see that I made the right choice! Getting them fitted tomorrow and can't wait to test them. Thanks for making these excellent videos!
Thank you so much for including wet brake test in warm and cold weather! My choice is Continental due to slightly better snow performance, but the Pirellis are very tempting!
@@tyrereviews oh totally! The progress is immense. I remember two years ago when I was recommending tyres for my mom's C5 and the Michelin CC2 was an obvious choice, back then there was no better tyre. Today's choice makes me feel like we could've chosen better
I even do not need tyres, after i have bought my all season hankooks last year thanks to you , but will watch all of it. Love your content. Keep it up!
Hello, first of all thank you for best reviews on RU-vid. I buy this year fiesta st mk8, sell 18 inch and buy 17 inch. For summer I buy tyres based on your review goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6. For winter I choose pirelli cinturato all season sf3 tyre based also on your last review because not so much snow maybe 1 or twice, only cold in morning minus 5 degree, and i drive on winter tyres for 4 months than I change to summer tyres. Glad to see that pirelli is best tyre for my condition, plus dot 2024, about 24 euro cheaper than winter tyre like blizak lm 005, better in wet and dry. Keep on great work.
Your channel is one of the most valuable here on RU-vid. I have been following you for many years and just want to say thank you for your consistently great work. Since I own several cars (including classics), your reviews have regularly helped me tremendously to make the right purchasing decisions.
Bought three years ago four Quatrac Pro’s (not the new one with the plus +) for my Mazda 3 in 18 inches. Fantastic tyres, really good for the kind of winter we’ve in the north of Spain with many rainy days and a bit of snow (not above 10cm of snow). I fit them in from November to march for the cold season and the result until now is fantastic. Surprisingly good the Pirelli, I’ll get into consideration when the times comes to replace the Quatrac Pro’s.
I've had a set of Contis ASC2 on my Polo for almost a year now and they're just brilliant : low noise, excellent MPG, great in dry & wet conditions... I've even driven them in quite deep snow and had no traction issues whatsoever. I'm still waiting to see how durable they are (some reviews mention that they wear quite fast compared to a CC2) but for now they're the best tyres I've ever used
Thank you for the best news of the day! I'm glad now that i ordered and just received the new Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 225/40 R18 on Octavia VRS 350HP. I can't wait to test them. They will be the second set for cold weather in addition to my summer Goodyear asymmetric 6. They are replacing my old Nokian WR D4. I plan to use them 7months/year October-April and to switch on summer on warmer weather.
Excellent video! There are some places where we get freezing 🥶 temperatures for significant portions of the year but we rarely get significant snowfall. For those areas an All Season tire makes sense even on a performance vehicle. Summer tires become deadly in sub freezing temperatures even if it is completely dry out. An All Season tire can remedy that problem especially if you can’t or won’t change tires each winter. Plenty of people drive a performance car but will never take it to the track or even drive it at the limit. Those people can probably get away with an A/S tire especially if they encounter colder temps for a significant portion of the year.
Not quite. A summer tire will almost always be better than any other tyre if it is actually dry on the road. At least until you get into high double digit negative degrees. The problem is that one small patch of ice, and you're off the road. An all season tire is not good on ice either. You want a Nordic friction tyre or spiked tyre to grip on ice. As you can see from this test, there are tires here that claim to be all seasons, while being beaten by uhp winter tires in wet conditions, in other words, they're just playing everyone who believes in all season tires by basically renaming winter tires that are not good for wet or dry conditions. I.E. you should have two sets of tires if you live in a place that sees negative temperatures on the celsius scale.
@@VinnesRC you are just completely wrong. UHP summer tires begin to get stiff at temps below 40 degrees F. Below freezing and especially below 20 degrees F they become brittle and are prone to cracking. They absolutely should not be used in temps below freezing. An All Season tire has no such limitations.
@@LearningFast a tire heats up from the friction when driving, meaning that the rubber will be above the glass transition temperature unless you are in seriously cold temperatures. What makes negative degrees dangerous is that water freezes to ice, but if there is no water present, that's not a problem. Summer tire rubber doesn't magically get worse in the dry when reaching below 0C. And how do you know that all season tires have no such limitations? It's not like manufacturers usually list the glass transition temperature in their labels.
@@LearningFast i have driven with 240 treadwear uuhp summer tires under 0 degrees C, and I still had good grip in the dry, just not in the salty wetness that is Scandinavian roads in winter, or on ice.
@@VinnesRC tire manufacturers explicitly tell you not to do that. If you measure the grip at the limits in cold temperatures summer tires will fail every test.
Awesome, as of right now the Pirelli sounds like my next purchase. It's been a long time since I bought Pirelli tires so I'm weirdly kind of excited about that.
I love these reviews. I bought my Cross Climiate 2 tires for my car when I no longer wanted the hassle of dedicated winter tires. I chose them as they were seemed to score the best in the winter (a few years ago, when there were fewer options) and I have been very happy with them. I drive a crossover, so 10/10ths performance on a track is a non-issue for me. With this new test, it looks like the Pirelli has taken the crown. As you mentioned, all these big brand tires are excellent options so it is quite likely you will be happy with whatever one you choose.
I use Michelin Pilot sport 4's for summer driving & Michelin cross climates during the winter months. When the PS4's start sliding as the temperature drops, put the CC's on. I live in the NE of England on the edge of the N Yorkshire moors, so winters tend to be mainly wet, slush & then snow. Last year my car was booked in for some work & it was snowing really heavily, with about 6-10cms of snow on the roads. Was overtaking cars doing 5mph & getting stuck on a few banks (including loads of Range/disco/land Rovers) it was hilarious, but I just gave them a friendly wave as I passed them all. My mechanic laughed as I pulled up as everyone was cancelling because of the weather. He drives a disco with big some funky looking winter tyres on & lives in the next village from mine. It's like clothing, dress for the weather!
first of all, thank you for al the great reviews. 1 tip, Most of the times, the review for winter tires comes to late. Like next week I have to order my winter tires, company car, so I have to look to test from the year before 😉
Extremely interesting. What this all tells me is that the excellent All Weather Tires are getting pretty darn good. Almost as good as a summer on dry roads (which is definitely the least important to me considering North American speed limits). Also very close to winter tires in snow and rain and ice conditions (which is important to me). These days even in a snowy climate like where I live in Eastern Canada, the roads end up bare asphalt within a matter of hours after any snowfall due to the aggressive cleaning and clearing. Thus an excellent All Weather tire seems perfect. I run this style year around on both of our vehicles. No issues in any season, and on those 7 or 8 days a year where I am not on bare pave, I just take it real easy or better yet stay off the roads until the next day :) Great test. thank you.
I have the CrossClimate2. I don't mind too much if they are worse than other tires in the wet, what I care the most is hydroplaning (aquaplaning?) resistance because it makes you suddenly lose control, and the Michelin are pretty good.
Let´s go! New video, im here instantly! Time to bring up a video idea: Compare the best of each categorie (UHP, HP, Comfort, AT, AS, Winter, Track etc.) in each Scenario. Me for example, I´d, like to buy an Range Rover L322 4.4TDV8, and i might get a bit into offroading. But could i do that with a Conti AS 7? Do i need the AT 2? Or do I give up on a huge amount of wet and snow grip? Or my old SLK230, should be used for Summer only - could i put track tires on it? Or is the comfort to bad for even the drive to work by good weather? Would i swim away in a summer rain? So with that video you could attempt to give an overview over a lot of very induvidual usecases.
The Pirelli is sold in the US as the Cinturato Weatheractive. I have had in on my wife's WRX since last winter. Here in the Northwest US, we get about one to three weeks of snow and 6 months of rain. Temperatures also vary from below freezing to 15c from one day to the next. These higher snow traction all weather/all season tire are the best for our weather. Even summer performance is adequate, so I don't even bother with summer tires on the WRX now.
I was stuck in a massive snow storm using bridgestone quiettracks, and they handled superbly for an all season in the heavy snow and ice. Then there is my dad, with so much driving experience, he drove his continental summer tires through this same snow storm to and from work without a hitch, just a small slip and slide.
These types of comments make me laugh. There is no way in any way shape or form that a high performance summer tire is able to handle the slightest incline in a snow storm, AWD or not, as shown in this video. It’s just ultra dangerous.
I havr had a hard time evaluating my quiettracks. Have not seen these reviews against common tires. I have issues with the tire, and they were very expensive. I am unsure if I should change them.
What an incredible review! Thanks to you, I bought the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6 and I’ve had an amazing experience. They have great grip right from the start, without needing to warm them up like the Michelin, and in the rain, it feels like you're driving on dry roads! I was undecided about trying an all-season tire, and heck, they might perform better than winter tires on wet and dry surfaces! Here in Bologna, Italy, it has snowed maybe 2 or 3 days in the last two years, so I think I’ll try the Pirelli SF3 for the winter. I’ll probably feel safer for 90% of the winter season. Thanks!
Going to do the exact same, and also have F1 AS6 with the same experience! You just helped me make up my mind and order the all seasons :) Greetings from switzerland
;) Time is running fast. I guess, its the third or fourth season I'm watching your vids! Phantastic job, thx a lot! I know, how much work it is behind these results. I'm doing tire approvals for the industry a lot, so I have a clue of your work. Keep it up!
For Winter tyres, the only ones I would consider are: 1. Nokian Hakkapelitta series. Best all round winter performance throughout the life of the tyres. 2. Vredestein. Best for areas that get more snow than any other precipitation in the winter. 3. Gislaved. Best tyres for deep snow. If course, this applies to cars, CUV's and SUV's. Trucks, vans and large vehicles are different.
Exactly the information I'm currently researching on. As a Cupra Leon vz 300 owner at the moment that was delivered on 19" Hankook Ventus Summer tyres. We don't have much snow recently in Germany I am debating to buy all seasons for the winter instead of winter tyres, because the all season seem to perform better in wet conditions than winter tyres. I only hoped to see both of my favorite candidates in this test. The Goodyear vector 4 season gen3 and the promising Pirelli sf3.
What I've been doing for the last couple of years is buy the latest Conti tire and I was never disappointed. They are one for the best if not THE Best tire manufacturer at the moment in my opinion.
I really don't understand the rolling resistance figure for the Michelin CC2. I was so happy with the CC+ that choosing the CC2 seemed like a natural choice but I saw a massive hit to fuel economy - averaged out over a few months and several tanks of fuel across local commuting and long distance journeys, it was roughly 12% worse with the CC2 compared to the CC+. Also Michelin's customer service is a sham. If you post a complaint or negative comment, they respond to say they've reached out, and they do send you an email, but they NEVER follow up when you reply tp that email.
I bought the Continental in 205/55 R16 based on your reviews and am happy with this choice. The thread pattern is more "summer" like (and hopefully not a big stone catcher) unlike the Michelin and Pirelli, that I prefer more as we don't seem to get much snow for the past years.
Looks like the Turanza has filled the gap that the old CrossClimate2 once had. Now this is a great choice for regions with mild winter seasons. After difficult years you could already see that Pirelli was on the right track with the SF2. The SF3 is the logical evolution. Excellent job. I liked to see the difference between wet braking warm and cool 👍 They all have their individual behaviour with changing temperatures.
This week I am switching from CC2, had these for 3 years, (got them after watching reviews in this channel) and 38k km ( still got around 4+mm, but sides are cracked little bit and wear is uneven because of bad alignment - I got BMW :D ) to AllSeasonContact 2, after this test I am a bit scared because I will use this tire in snow and ice, but mostly in winter it's around 0 degrees and wet snow, so not that Nordic conditions. Had just enough grip with CC2's in winter, and yeah on wet road they slip quite fast so ASC2 will be improvement. I would not want worse performance in snow, looks like in R16 test ASC2 performed better. Too bad Pirelli SF3 do not come in size I want. All season tires are perfect for me, I drive only about 13k km a year, only 3k km of these are in winter months. Thanks for reviews!
I live in the mountain west so CC2 remains a no-brainer for my EV. Given personal experience with OE Pirellis and the reputation P Zero has among the enthusiasts, I don’t think any test will convince me to give them money due to expected lack of durability and excessive wear. Same goes for Bridgestones. Continental’s dogged refusal to sell ASC2 in the US remains a mystery but I’m sure Michelin appreciates the free market share boost.
First of all: Great Review! Thx for all the work and effort. I'm just missing 2 points: 1. the wear off each tire is an important point to me 2. the Goodyear Vector4Seasons Gen-3 is one of the best in my opinion and should belong into that test
@@tyrereviews I didn't think about the cost at all. Now that totally makes sense. And to wait for the next Gen also makes sense 😌 thank you for your answer and another great All Season test as every year! 😊
I have just fitted the Pirelli AS SF3 based upon your 16” tyre test. I have to say they do feel like a summer touring tyre. Seems I made a Good choice. As it’s second for rolling resistance which is good as they are fitted to a eGolf. Nice work keep these videos coming. Will leave a review on tyre reviews once I have tested in the coming months.
I have about 6000 km now on my 225/40 R18 92Y Allseason Contact 2, and can confirm that it feels good in the dry, very confident in the wet, and the comfort is quite good, too. I'm looking forward to the winter experiences, and I hope it has improved slush performance, a category where its predecessor failed, at least on my car.
P/S: I first had the equally sized Turanza 6 on my car, but 3 out of 4 tyres where eccentric, and the replacement set had 2 out of 4 eccentric. So I agreed with my tyre dealer to try the Conti as replacement instead. He stated I'm not the first one to be unlucky with eccentric Bridgestones 🤷🏻♂️
Sounds silly, but I’m always looking forward to your tire reviews. Excellent job, thanks 🙏 Running CC2s on my model 3 due to you, but I will definitely consider the Pirelli’s when they are through. My only feedback would be to release this and the winter video a tad earlier as people usually get their tires changed in October (to ensure driving legally) and ordering tires takes a bit.
I've had the cross climate 2's for three years now. My part of Colorado doesn't get that much rain. We usually get a good amount of snow. Problem with putting on winter tires, which I would prefer. Is that during the winter we also get plenty of warmer days. So wear is terrible, and awful handling and braking on those warmer days. I'm happy with my cross climate 2's.
Great test and presentation as always! I was shopping for the CC2 earlier this year, but based on your previous test I went for the Continentals (16”). Very happy with them so far, for me as an average driver they feel much more like a summer tire then a winter tire and I value wet performance more then snow performance. Let’s see if we’ll have some snow coming winter👍
nicely done with the tests Jonathan, much appreciated. Just fitted Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen 3 to my Outback, what a difference in cold/wet handling and noise, compared to the OEM summer Bridgestone's
I used the first Crossclimate, the goodyear 4S gen2 and gen3. Right now I have the Pirelli SF2 and it's by far my favorite so far. I'll defenitly go for the SF3 next.
It looks like Pirelli did a take on the crossclimate pattern and I"m glad its worked out for them. I still have a 2yr old set of CrossClimate 2s and love them because I do live where we have snow for 5~6 months of the year (upper midwest, USA) - will consider Pirelli or just get another set of CC2s, whichever one happens to be cheaper or available in my area :)
Bit surprised, ordered the pirelli a week ago for my new i30n to act as winter tires (or more like autumn to spring tires which means a lot of 5-15 celsius and rain), should arrive this week... feels good to get confirmation of a good choice ;)
It's not related to the topic, but I will say about all-season tires Goodyear, Nissan Live, brought from the USA, traveled more than 90,000 km on these tires.
Very cool test. I love this comparisons also to winter and summer tire. Pity that break testing in different conditions are done in different speeds. So cannot directly compare summer wet, dry and show to Winter wet, dry and snow. Hopefully you will talk about it in video you mentioned is coming. Also wear test was not included. I remember that Pirelli had the as worst in previous test. But also interesting how different are numbers compare to R16 55 205 you had earlier this year.
Excellent review again Jon Having run the Goodyear Vector Gen3 4Seasons on my F31 last Autumn/Winter/Spring etc I wanted to try the Michelin CrossCliate 2s for a change; and I have done I've got the Goodyears as the 'winter season tyres' on the F31 still; my wife has that car and with her commuting more; they'll be spot on for that when I swap them across in a few weeks (currently on Goodyear Assym 6s) I've just had the CrossClimate 2s fitting to my new to me E81 130i and already I feel they're a superb tyre; comfier and quieter than the Michelin PS5s they've replaced... It'll be interesting to see how they get on in the wetter/colder temps and weathers etc
I really appreciate the All Season tests. I was inspired to buy Pirellis at the beginning of the year and I'm very happy so far. I am a bit disappointed with the absence of Hankook in your last couple tests though. They appeared once, were incredible considering the price point and yet never appeared again. I really wanted to know how they stack up with the new generation of premium alternatives because I want to recommend them to my budget oriented family and friends. Please consider this in your future tests. Thanks!
It would be very interesting to see how good or bad allseason tyres perform in winter conditions after being grilled during a hot summer. Thats the reason why I take allseason tyres for the winter in Germany and switch to summer tyres in the summer.
interesting that the results for the Quatrac Pro+ you tested are similar to the results I'm feeling with their straight Quatrac in 205/60R16 XL rated tire, despite them being a wildly different tread design. One thing I noticed on mine, they are a VERY GENEROUS 205 wide tire... much closer looking to a 225, and are quite "fat" on the rims (OE 16x6.5). They're a very competent tire in dry and wet (no snow yet) here, and given they're fitted to the car my soon-be-freshly-minted-licensed kid will be driving predominantly, I wanted something that was forgiving in the dry, better in the wet, and at least above average in the snow we get here usually; we aggressively treat and salt out roads in NJ, so the probability he'll be in anything more than some powder or light hard pack before the plows come though is pretty low. Plus we like to hand out State Of Emergencies like they're crack at a junkie party, so he most likely won't be on the roads anyways. :D
Absolutely brilliant. Can honestly say these are the only RU-vid reviews I wish were longer. Was choosing new UHP summer tyres earlier in the year and came straight back to your channel. One question though. Why not start at and stop to zero on the acceleration and breaking tests? Wouldn't it make the relative differences even more pronounced, especially Vs the summer tyres? Still, superb test Jonathan- best ones out there.
Six months ago, I got the Nexen N'Blue 4Season 2 tires for my Audi A6 C6 Avant 2.0 in size 255/35 R19, and they've been excellent. When pushing hard through corners in wet conditions, there’s a bit of understeer, which is expected given the car’s weight. They performed great during the summer, and I’m really interested to see how they’ll handle over time, especially in the winter.
I have a great idea for a test, which may be very difficult to do, but wouls provide huge amount of information regarding what tyres to buy. We need to see how much performance the tyres lose when with mileage. I think a great point of reference would be something like 15-20 thousands km, which is how a lot of people drive every year! Especially comparison between cheap and expensive tyres, both all season and winter/summer ones! It would also confirm Michelin's claims that CrossClimate 2 retain their performance for their entire lifetime.
