Are Cherry MX Keyswitches Really the Best? 

Just a simple vid on MX type keyswitches. Yep I know, you can go way deeper, and you guys aren't really the ones that need to be shown the light, but I think you know what I was going for here. But it looks like we're generating some awesome discussion!

Ahh, Cherry MX. The company that makes clicky and tactile switches based on a design that was supposed to be linear.

Range doesn't really matter when 90% of the keyboards in stores are blues and reds.

still happy with Cherry MX brown for daily

Holy Panda switches are good too and the sound mannnnn

Can you make a review of all the new Gateron inks? So far, All I've seen are videos on the Black Gateron inks and I would like to see how the others sounds and feels and whether or not you would prefer them over Cherry, Kailh, other Gaterons, etc. I'm very interested in linear switches and I love a smooth, non scratchy switch that isn't too heavy. That's why I was looking into getting Gateron red inks, but I haven't seen anyone do a review on it yet so I'm pretty hesitant to buy.

Cherry the best ? I can hear all r/mk screeching

HAHAHA xD it's interesting to see how much perspectives differ! If I'd make a video with a title like that, I'd be talking about completely different stuff!

0:24 ayyy thats me

Slightly scratchy? SLIGHTLY?

Man my switches use click jackets but those click bars sound so clean.

the short answer is preference the long answer is no

Cherry needs to step up their game. They been stagnant for a while and gateron/kailh making moves. 😂

Would be perfect if you followed up this video with a key switch buyer's guide based on desired feel or the supposed keyboard's purpose and what it's meant to be used for (typing/gaming/both/etc). Also, loved the video's presentation, easy to follow and lots of examples for a clean understanding. *SOLID 5/7* keep it up!

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The irony is that if you look at vintage stuff Cherry MX was...pretty mediocre compared to its contemporaries. But then rubber domes started to take over and most keyboard manufacturers started to focus on low cost more than anything. Therefore most switch manufacturers just abandoned the market entirely. They didn't see much room for profit. Cherry was about the only mechanical keyswitch maker to keep at it and they deserve some credit for that. Then when there was a big revival in interest in mechanical keyboards (larger due to the gaming market) Cherry became the de facto choice because they were the only people still making mechanical key switches in large quantities. Honestly I've never liked Cherry switches. I mostly stuck to vintage boards until Kailh started doing some interesting stuff int he MX-compatible world. There are some other decent switches as well, like Zeal's stuff. But personally I actively avoid 'genuine Cherry' switches.

After typing on them for almost a year I gotta say that I prefer the way how Kailh switches feel over Cherry switches.

Cherry MX brown are simultaneously the most popular switch and also the worst cherry mx switch. It doesn't have enough tactility. Regardless, I now use Kailh thick click switches. Jades are my favorite. I have already dumped cherry tactile switches, but I do love my keyboard with zealeos switches.

Are MX type switches the best? Look IBM Buckling Springs, Topre switch, Alps SKCL/M series and Plate springs, Fujitsu Leaf Spring, you will find the answer by yourself. Anyway, the MX type switches have the merit of being starters for everyone who wants a mechanical keyboard without chasing old keybs like the Dell AT101, SGI Granite, IBM Model M, ecc. P.S: MX mount today is a must for using MX keycaps, since most artisan and high profile keycaps are MX mount

Why so many people here find Cherry MX Blue switches so bad? They have right and desirable design characteristics. They actuate exaclty at the click point. This simply means click equals keystroke. The Outemu Blue ones actuate after the click point, while the Kailh Box ones a little before the click (haven't tested them, but sounds rather bad). Also, Cherry Blue have the "hysterisis" feature, ie the release point is above the actuation point, a feature loved by typists (and rather hated by gamers). The other brands lack this feature, and the release point is at the same height as the actuation point. Of course, Cherry should improve the quality of their products and refresh and modernize their lineup.

I just switched from Cherry MX Browns after 6 years (my first mech) to Kailh Plum/Purple (my first custom build) which are also tactile but heavier and man do they feel good (lubed of course). So I can confirm what you said at around 4:00

TLDW: No

"Are Cherry MX Keyswitches Really the Best?" Well...I mean...they're not the WORST...

Are cherry mx switches the Best? No. But are those prebuilt keyboards that use cherry mx switches better in build quality? Yes.

Lmao *laughs in kailh box navy blue

*N O*

I just got my first mech after years of cheap Woolworths keyboards, lol I got another cheap one but it's got outemu reds and I love it ;) $65 aud from Kogan.

Are we just going to ignore how excited he got when he saw the keyboard in game?

No. Cherry MX isn't the best (in my opinion). It has a place, for instance: MX blacks are workhorses. They work wonderfully in industrial situations.

I've never had MX Switches fail but I've had the offbrand switches fail. But now I don't use those switches since I have my buckling spring.

Just found your channel while researching on mechanical keyboard, and see that you play insurgency sand storm, i just sub instantly. Apart from that great content!

Was just about to order Mx browns, gonna go for either zelio or zilents now instead :) Have gateron silent browns which are alright but preferred Mx browns as they are more tactile, perhaps zilents will be perfect! Thanks for a great channel!

Kailh Box Jade's are my favorite that I've found so far. Cherry's don't feel good to me anymore.

Gaterons are better Cherries and there are much better, non-Cherry MX switches out there...

Day 273 of the coronavirus quarantine; . . . The mx blue click sound reminded me of *macaroni noises*

"synomynous"

Most custom keyboards do not use Cherry switches, maybe only mx blacks, vintage or retooled, lubed. The mass market will need time to get to know other better switches.

"semominous" haha

I absolutely hate Cheery MX style click mechanism. No click on upstroke makes it completely inconsistent and horrible to my ears. And as you said, homeopathic tactility in browns and brown-like clones (even from Kailh). It just seems one cannot have strong tactility without a click. Unless one goes rubber dome. (and not talking about more exotic switches which I dare to call Alps exotic nowadays).

I used cherry browns with my first keyboard, moved to box jades, I really don't need to say which was better

Yeah, I actually prefer outemu blues a lot better than cherry mx. Idk if that’s weird, but I really couldn’t give a fuck

I have kailh silver speeds and I couldn't imagine anything better

A lot of people like to bash Cherry now a days, which I think is uncalled for. Granted they may not be the best value anymore, but they are the OG that set the standard for many years. They deserve some respect.

I'm a huge fan of cherry switches especially reds. I've been using it for so long, but after trying gateron clears, I don't think I can ever go back. Now when ever I go back to other key switches, I feel like I have to push extra hard to just press the switch.

I want to buy a Ducky one 2 mini keyboard and their options for switches are all Cherry MX. Kinda wish they have more other options and maybe hot swappable in the future

Gateron Yellows

i once got poor shamed for bringing my Tofu 65% with Roselios compared to their Corsair & logitech boards to a lan party by my buddies.

Yall can spit on Outemu all you want ill take them over Cherries any day. There is almost no difference between the twos and I can find spare Outemus on the internet for much less expensive than spare cherries

I genuinely love my Outemu Blues for their feel, but goddamn they are literally the reason I change *every* program with voice chat to PTT. I feel bad for anyone who has to share an apartment with someone with these switches.

I prefer outemu blues over cherry blues

I hate them. I bought a keyboard with the blues and I don't like the way they feel and I really have grown to hate the noise.

Holy pandas, Zealios V2s, zilents, black gateron inks are all the community wants now

Cherry MX is standard, not the best, not anymore Gateron and Kailh offer better experience,, imo

*giggles in Kailh BOX White*

Cherry blacks and clears are still better than almost every other switch. Especially vintage ones.

agreed. I see so many people write off keyboards because they don't have cherry switches. my favorite switches are the varmilo rose switches and zeal tealios.

I think something similar to this happens a lot in the tech world. When it comes to audio, people seem to like beats, bose, skullcandy etc. But these brands are no different from Corsair, Razer or other gaming brands in the keyboard world. There are much better stuff for the price like stuff from Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, Monoprice etc. Cherry does make some pretty good switches. Their linears aren't all that bad although I think Gateron and Kailh pretty much caught up. MX Clears are actually a very unique switch and they are also pretty tactile. Retooled MX Blues are actually very tactile. Much more tactile than their older MX Blue variants. However most of their switches always have a better, and possibly cheaper alternative. Blues, albeit being pretty tactile, rattle like hell. Kailh clickbar switches beat them out. Stock MX Blacks are just too heavy for their own good and mx reds too light. They are also scratchy stock. Gateron linears and kailh cream switches are smoother. MX Clears are great switches but Zealios exist and I would say MOD switches are also better than MX Clears. Their browns are just sad imo. There is pretty much no reason for anyone to get Cherry MX Browns over Gateron Brown or Kailh BOX Brown unless they are using vintage browns. It's all a matter of perspective, as most people will consider cherry switches to be an upgrade from their non mechanical keyboards but considering how better value switches already exist, Cherry MX will probably slowly fade away from the competition as time goes by. Just like how people seem to think Beats are amazing headphones because of course, they will sound better than the $5 earbuds they generally tend to use. But for the price, there will be better options than the most popular stuff. In the end, it is a win for the consumers as they will get better, and cheaper products due to the competition. I am hoping Cherry actually innovates something big and bring something incredible to the table, just like what Input club is doing with their Silo switches. The low profile switches are pretty unique, but they aren't remarkable and I would consider them to be already outclassed by the kailh low profile switches. At some point, more and more switches from Kailh and Gateron will catch up to the general public and will be the norm. On the other hand, there are even more premium switches like Alps and Buckling spring which are even better than the best MX based switches. However I wouldn't really blame people for not knowing much about these older switches. At this point comparing Cherry & its clones to Alps/IBM switches is the equivalent of comparing something like $200 audiophile headphones vs $2000 audiophile headphones.

i use optemu blues, i like them, they are pretty clicky and tactile, i want to try gateron brown next maybe kailh box brown if i can afford it

Cherry MX Meh

are jacket types quiter than click bar ? i work with others around and if quieter i would prefer it

I'm very happy with the buckling springs on my Unicomp Model M; though I'm getting more and more curious about other types of switches, as I'm intrigued by the possibility of building a mechanical keyboard from the ground up. The Unicomp is great - but I'd really like to try something that felt a little sturdier.

the only mechanical keyboard i have use the kaihl silvers but id like to try the apex pro keyboard

Mod-M tactile switches all day long

If you listen closely you can hear r/mk screeching

I'm absolutely fine with my Outemu blue switches. 🙂

I recommend using trusted brands like gateron and kailh because they are on so many boards and give a lot to choose from.Also I am considering building a new mech board with kailh box whites or jades with the gk61 hotswap pcb and getting hyperx doubleshot pbt pudding keycaps.I might also try out brown switches since I've only tried cherry mx reds and gateron optical blues and I tried my friends rk61 with the rk red switches.Also anyone with browns or kailh box whites tell me if they are worth it.

Clicky cherry switches drive me insane!!!!

I had 3 kailh switch keyboard break on me but I had zero issues with Cherry MX. It's pretty hard for me to not be biased especially after these experiences.... Corrosion was the reason for all 3 kailh keyboards breaking. I had double and triple actuation on multiple keys. Also these keyboards broke after less than 11 or 12 months of use at best.

I really like the razer purple switch...

Well...now i regret buying a gateron brown keyboard..

SPOILER: no

But what about buckling spring? Like in the IBM Model M

ALPS AND HALL EFFECT. there you go.

Whos here after researching a new keyboard to buy lol

Using Outemu brown right now and I'm happy with it.

I like Cherry MX Blue but Romer G switches are my favorite.

Still got a membrane keyboard 😅

Personally my favorite switches are the Kailh Box switches. I have a GMMK TKL with Kailh Box Navies in it and it feels amazing

Insurgency? I see you are man of culture as well :)

I’m inexperienced but I like my Corsair k68 with cherry mx reds I only really game though can’t wait to try all these other ones think I’d like a click when I press a key

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Wow my man uses Opera and plays Insurgency. A man of culture for sure

Everytime I watch your gameplay footage, it takes me back to the year 2010 or before that. Not only the games but also your monitor. Idk maybe it's just me. Great vid tho really appreciate and like it.

My Mx red rgb's are very smooth and not scratchy but my non rgb black casing mx reds are scratchy. Looks like they updated the design in the newer version

Filco here with Cherry Browns. Love it.

Short answer: Yes Long answer: F*** NO

Thank god I ordered box reds and not cherry reds

Gateron makes the best linears

MX Brown tactility is garbage and weak. Feels like scratchier version of MX Red

I only changed out my outemu blues on my first keyboard because they were quadruple typing, or not typing at all.

No they aren't. They are just made with good q&a. However their main disadvantage that they are having not very nice feel. And that's big disadvantage. For instance: I bought anne pro 2 with gateron reds and one key is acting weirdly so I will replace it. But men the feel is so good that I am going to try resolder the switch XD When I bought mx speed ones they worked perfectly out of the bix. But outemu also worked perfectly out of the box XD but yeah : Cherry mx just has good Q&A

Just wondering if the Cherry MX factor of the Ducky keyboards big enough of a turn off to stay away from it? Currently torn between the Ducky and GMMK barebones (plan to use gat yellows). The price of a custom GMMK is much more than a similar size Ducky, but better typing experience with the switches. But I've heard Ducky have some really good stabs, and wonder if the GMMK can even compare.

Cherry are kinda getting out dated now and if they don’t do something other keyboard manufacturers will probably shift to different brand of key switches. Brand deals don’t last forever cherry

Gateron Inks :) Outemu switches are VERY unreliable, they break a lot, doubletap etc.

i had a weird journey with mech keyboards since i always went for cheaper ones but i have finaly found my match on a budget 60 percent board. I started with a razer blackwidow tournament edition, i dont know what kinds of switches they were but they were clicky and felt great. next up was a logitech g413 carbon with romer G. they were linear and never felt as good as the razer board. and then i poured water on it by accident. i needed a new keyboard and went to the store where they had a hyper X alloy FPS for sale with kailh silver Speed which i hated.... i had so many double button presses and i felt really unaccurate with it for some reason so i went on the search for a new one. i wanted tactile or clicky on either a 60 percent or 65 percent board. i was thinking of the ducky with mx browns but i heard that the mx Browns werent as good so i went for a glorious PC gaming race modular keyboard with gateron browns and they are absolutely lovely and the build quality is great.

I enjoy my gateron browns and clears

still surprised people think cherry are the best... and idk if id say cherry are "still great" but they're okay blues sound awful but actually feel decent and the rest are not good IMO.

I used to love Mx blues until I got Box navy’s. No competition there lol

Cherry still have the best manufacturing tolerances, consistency and quality control - where they fall down is options and range. Each switch is basically the "generic" in each switch type. They definitely deserve criticism for failing to innovate on design or offer as diverse a range as competitors but if I had to have just one keyboard, I would go for a cherry switch 100% of the time.

I tried the 3 popular cherry sưitches: red, blue, brown All sounds very scratchy, and the bumb on brown is too weak to be tactile