Are HOKA Speedgoat 5 Overhype? - I ran 500 miles to Find Out

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The Hoka Speedgoat 5 are some of the most iconic and popular trail and ultra running shoes. But is the hype justified or are they overhyped? In this trail running shoe review, I tested the HOKA Speedgoat 5 over 500 miles on varied terrain to get this answer!
More specifically, I used the HOKA speedgoat 5 for 3 different ultra marathon. I ran Zion Ultra Marathon 100 miles, Mt Fuji 100 Miles, and Cocodona 250 miles. I used two pairs, although most mileage were on the teal ones. As you can tell, this means I tested the hoka speedgoat in varied trail - from sandy desert, to rocky slabs, and muddy / rocky / rooty /wet trails.
In this review, I go through the reasons why the Hoka speedgoat 5 is a great trail running shoe, but also, some of its limitations. I hope it's helpful!
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@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Both Nora and I really like our Speedgoat 5 - doesn't mean I wear them all the time, and they are certainly not perfect. But despite having high expectations, I was still very happy (except for the blisters...)

@wallacemayer4911 3 месяца назад

Aloha ! Simon , great content 🙏🏼What shoe would you use for Javalina ? I thought Speed goats would be perfect but I’ve never ran it before. Mahalo !

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

@@wallacemayer4911 They can be fine for Javelina. My friends Mark and Leanne (they were in my movie - the ladybug and the golden ticket), were both wearing speedgoat 5 and I think were happy with the choice. For me, I feel they are a bit too hot. You also don't really need the grip - javelina is not technical. There are some rocks so it'd be nice to have something a little sturdy on toes (I think mark actually lost his big toe nails because of hitting rocks). I've used a bunch of different shoe myself, and sometimes road shoes. Last year I used the same ones I had at badwater, which are Joe Nimble Pilot 2. They are not the most breathable, but otherwise, it felt like a good choice. Sturdy but also good cushionning. I might just pick my asics next time - haven't decided yet.

@wallacemayer4911 3 месяца назад

Yeah I was going to use Asics nimbus 26 with a little thicker socks. Losing a big toe nail sounds bad, I have speed goat 5s on the rotation for the jav if needed. Thanks Simon for the Nimble Pilot 2 tip. Keep up the great content, you come across very honest and down to earth/ and a little sarcastic/funny. I enjoy the videos leading up to my 1st 100. Mahalo !

@canelami1285 3 месяца назад

I really appreciate that you post gear reviews after testing them thoroughly. So much good info!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks - and I enjoy testing them...especially those shoe. I hope I can somehow convince Hoka to let me test the Speedgoat 6!

@johnborton4522 3 месяца назад

Love that you don't waste time with the specs. Very available.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks for saying. Yeah exactly, I don't want to waste your time with something if you cared about, you'd probably head to their website!

@runninrob7922 3 месяца назад

Still looking for a solid performing trail/ultra shoe. Thanks for your review - 450 miles - you definitely have experience with them!! Thank you.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

It's such a personnel thing that I feel one has to try a lot to get the right one! And even then, at least for me, I think there's too much variety of trails that I want a spectrum (at the polar opposite from this one, I was happy with my Joe Nimble's Trail Addict - which are very sturdy but also protecting your feet well)

@IOSALive 3 месяца назад

Ultra Marathon Trail Running with Simon, great content keep up the good content

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks :)

@Gator35 3 месяца назад

Fantastic and "real" review, Simon! I just put 100 miles of training and a 50k into the red version, and I agree with all of your comments. I find the shoe to be very comfortable all around, if maybe a little bit stretchy and flexible - that worked for the easy terrain I have been on, but do agree tougher terrain and rocks will chew these things up quickly. I struggled with achilles and calf issues previously, but had no such issues when wearing these shoes - I did not connect the upper heel design that you pointed out, but you may be on to something. Great work and keep new content coming!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks! I'm not sure if it's the upper heel design, or the cushioning, or both. What I know is both Nora and I have much less pain. Which is a huge win!

@grandeamericanos4759 3 месяца назад

Simon, thank you for being an inspiration to me! Of course your data and presentation are wonderful, but I think it has more to do with your character and appreciation for your wife and your fellow human beings! Thought of you today because I was definitely more of a pickle rather than chocolate ice cream!! Have diligently been doing zone two runs and the benefits are real. Thank you so much and please keep sharing. ❤

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks! Haha let’s stick to chocolate ice cream if possible!

@SeeChadRun 3 месяца назад

Great review and feedback! I'm looking forward to giving the Speedgoat 6 a try/review myself.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I need me some SG6 !!!

@PlanBudgetDisney 3 месяца назад

Thank you so much for the helpful review. I purchased a pair on discount from Poshmark after asking your opinion. I like mine very much too!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Great :)

@6kmanu Месяц назад

just bougth a pair 2 months ago, I have used them on a 25k trail and 7k on road. its definitely not for people with wide feet! I got the gore-tex version, I noticed that its not comfortable to wear in summer as well because of the water resistant material on the shoe. Never running on those again. I bought altra olympus and they are 2x better. Breathable and plenty of toe box!

@runningwithsimon Месяц назад

Breathable shoes are important, totally agree with you. I think a general tip is to never get the gore-tex version of any shoes. I don't know anyone who has positive experience with them. If the trail is wet or it's raining, no amount of goretex will keep your feet dry. And if it's dry and hot, goretex is not only useless, but also your feet will get sweaty and humid. I'll have to try altra olympus - a few told me about it. ps; the wide ones did a much better job for me (the SG6) but yeah, I don't know who they modeled those for, but it's ridiculously narrow on the 'normal' size

@richie1129 2 месяца назад

Hi Simon, I really appreciate this type of review. The hype train can really lead to big mistakes... Reviews like this also help me a lot as I live in a country where shoe size is not the norm in Japan anything at or above US size 12 \ UK 11 you have to import even Hoka or any other foreign brand in Japan can't help. So importing can be a very costly mistake.

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

Wow yes, must be difficult!

@trailsandbeers 3 месяца назад

I have wide feet and even though the wide fit SG5 are still too narrow in the toe box, they stretch and are the only shoe that i have found that works for 100 milers and longer. As long as I tape my little toe I get no blisters, they are comfortable, stable and grip well in everything except deep wet mud. I did a 200 miler in the alps last year and my feet were the same at the finish as at the start, this year I am doing a 400 miler so I will have a second pair in my drop bag. Fwiw I don't use gaiters and hardly ever get anything in the shoe. Now the 6 is released I'm planning to look for discounted 5's and buy more of them.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

400 miles in the alps? Nice!

@Eredhwen 3 месяца назад

This video came at a perfect time as I was pondering wether or not going for the speedgoats :)

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

They might also have discount on remaining stock of speedgoat 5, with the 6 just launching days ago. I'm going to try the 6 - hopefully they are as good or even better! But I might also stock up on SG5 just in case.

@Eredhwen 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon That's a good shout! I will be having a look. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on them. I am very new to running, having started this year, but slowly building up the mileage. I am looking at D33 for my first ultra next year :) The dream goal would be in some years from now do the Transgrancanaria back home

@thadbiser 3 месяца назад

You might be pleased with the Speedgoat 6 then, since it appears to be a little lighter with a little more room in the toebox and a more resilient midsole. Also the elf-ear heel doesn’t seem to be as large as on the 5. The upper is supposed to be less stretchy, so maybe a better lockdown.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Yes brand new release - would love for Hoka to send me a couple of pair to test them over the summer. In the meantime, I might stock up on SG5 before they run out - I do love the elf ear (is that the name really, that's cool!)

@JesusWasHeree 3 месяца назад

I recently commented about trying my first 100 - just wanted to say i didn't have the day i wanted but proud to say i got to the end. Had about 17k feet of climbing, 103 miles but it did take 34 hours 😬 Done in the speedgoat!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Well congrats! Maybe that's not the time you were hoping for, but sounds like you were able to push through adversity, and (hopefully) learn a thing or two! So congrats :)

@michelleharnett1351 3 месяца назад

I totally agree with your assessment that they are a trail/road shoe - which is largely how I use them. However, I hate that soles wear so fast. For technical, off road stuff I prefer the Hoka Mafate - very tough in rocky technical terrain, and better grip in the mud, in my opinion. Edited to add - I have wide feet and wear the "narrow" fit but I do size up half a size - no more lost toenails. Downside, I've just sized myself out of the women's range, lol.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I should try the Mafate, you're right. Are they also fairly narrow? I'd get the wide one but seems that's not an option.

@jean-philippeblais7233 3 месяца назад

Salut Simon, tu devrais faire l’essai du Norda 001, confortable, durable et léger. Te reste juste à en faire l’essai lors d’un prochain voyage à la maison. Un soulier fait pour durer (pas tuable comme on dit😊) Probablement ma plus belle découverte en frais de soulier. Continue ton beau travail

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Je ne connais pas - c'est une companie quebecoise?

@denisemitrano4186 3 месяца назад

Thanks!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks for supporting the channel! Much appreciated!

@thisisplana 3 месяца назад

Picked up a pair as my second trail running shoes recently after taking up trail running and suffering bad ankle sprains in both road shoes and Peregrines. Spot on regarding the width, I have narrowish feet and they fit me perfectly. So someone wouldn't need to have very wide feet to benefit from the widths. The only issues I've had after 150 or so miles have been a minor blister on the arch (possibly due to the fabric strip binding the sole) and on the side of a big toe. The latter may be due to the thin toe box you mention. Both were minor and probably part of the hardening process for my feet as I upped the mileage.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Heard to tell what caused them. Big toe could be the toe box. Arch, could also be teh socks - smartwool sucks can help. Or just really making sure the feet is dry

@ArcaneSpells 3 месяца назад

Very useful information! Another banger of a video

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Thanks! Not sure I'll do that many gear review, and I think I still need to sharpen things a bit, but was interesting to share!

@Kelly_Ben 3 месяца назад

I just used my Speedgoats for a 20 minute treadmill run, so basically the same testing as you, and I agree! 😂😂 Just kidding, great review! I do love them for ultras, and often with gators. (Dirty Girl Gators rock, for guys AND girls!) I do use the “wide”, and I also almost lost a toenail a few weeks ago kicking a root in a race. 😅 I got mine, brand new, for $65 as a return at REÍ.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

$65...!!! Wow...! Also, even joking, it's such a blasphemy to use Hoka SG5 on a treadmill haha! Don't break my heart like this.

@Kelly_Ben 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon😂😂 Please forgive me, I know not what I do! 😂 They're just so comfy...

@RIdeWithCore1 2 месяца назад

Forget the shoes. You’re a beast of endurance. No shoe should be able to keep up with that much movement 😂

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

haha fair enough. I was disappointed my speedgoat couldn't keep up for even 1 month, but I guess it's normal...

@linlaymoutou3872 2 месяца назад

Love my speedgoat 5 too. Better than my mafate.

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

I’ll be trying the mafate myself soon. What is it that you prefer on the SG vs them?

@iljarukin5887 3 месяца назад

Interesting insights. You mention that you run in the speedgoats only on raceday. What are your usual training shoes ?

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Various - but to be fair, I’m also mostly training on road and treadmill so I don’t want to waste my good shoes. I use ASICS - various models. They are cheapy but good fit.

@ucamper 3 месяца назад

Wow! I have never managed to wear the Speedgoat down like that. My last pair look almost like new after 660km (410 miles). I guess the surface that you run on matter a lot.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I think the surface was a huge factor here - both zion and cocodona being more abrasive (not sure if that's the term, but basically, hard surface). Maybe also racing wear them down faster per miles because you go slower => smaller stride length => more steps per miles.

@WEWERETRUCKERS 2 месяца назад

Hmmm I didnt know ultra marathoners use those😮😮 I also run lots of kms in those, I like them

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

@@WEWERETRUCKERS I’d say they are probably the most commonly used shoes for ultra - at least around here. Probably depends where in the world.

@cdhikes2906 3 месяца назад

Tried speedgoats when I was just hiking mountains. I loved how comfortable they were on even/straight incline ground, but whenever my foot was off camber they struck my ankles. Maybe I'll try the 6's when they go on sale, cause I really loved the cushioning.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I don't really use them for hiking myself. I know it sounds like it should be similar, but for me it's a different category. I really like my Altra Lone Peak when hiking (but not when running too far - midsole/cushion just isn't enough for me).

@pexcii 3 месяца назад

Very cool review! I think they are very cool, however they screwed up my toes a bit (my toe joints were scratching each others, so I got pain and struggled with bad toes for a week or two after using them for 90min straight..Solved now tho with the Altra Mont Blanc! You should give them a go if ya haven't already! Very wide toe box!

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Yeah, you saw my toes too... I hope they fix that with the SG6. For me just not being as narrow would probably solve everything. Might give the Mont Blanc a shot - how's the back of the feet? I know for Nora the speedgoat is a game changer - it messes up her toes, but that's true with any shoe for her. For me, the speedgoat were super helpful for my heel, but I'm not as sensitive as her on that, so I could try the Mont Blanc. I already like their lone peak - although mostly for hiking or

@pexcii 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon Yeah, they looked nasty xD Hopefully yeah! They do make their shoes very narrow, and that is really annoying. The mont blanc is pretty nice, the back will ur achilles in place, might be risky with blisters for ya. Also u gotta glue the shoe sole onto the floor of the shoe. It will slip very far and around your toes if u do not, esp in steep hills with wet shoes.

@diplayball Месяц назад

I feel that in the womans hoka shoes there too wide. I have a narrow foot, so now I'm going to order the men because there is a regular size to me 🤷‍♀️

@runningwithsimon Месяц назад

Interesting - obviously haven't tried them myself, but Nora has tried, and she needed the wide ones. I guess it really shoes the importance of trying them on before buying any shoes

@KevinHowie 3 месяца назад

I am going to black canyon 100k February. Was wondering if you thought speed goat would be ok or is that race to rocky for them.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I think it's fine. Black canyon is not so bad. I used altra lone peak last time, and they are also not the sturdiest (actually I think even more malleable and less toe protection). It's not the most technical course but you do have treacherous rocks so you have to stay vigilant. Also, you'll have some river crossing so you'll likely get your feet wet (making it harder to not get blisters)

@lykkereuther8565 Месяц назад

I have used Speedgoat 5 mid cut for some years for hiking. If I use the 2 size bigger than my normal size, they fits well. But they don’t last long. After 2 month…about 500 km…the outer sole is completely worn out. That’s not ok 👎 My next pair of hiking shoes will be Hoka Challenge 7 or Altra Olympus. Will it be good changes?

@runningwithsimon Месяц назад

Yeah I was a bit disappointed by how quickly mine worn out too.

@runningwithsimon Месяц назад

And now I realize I didn't answer your question sorry. So I've never tried the Hoka Challenge 7 or Olympus. I heard good things about the olympus (actually I think some comments on this video were talking about it). Shoes also wear out differently when hiking vs. running. And what I think is great about the speedgoat is how well they absorb some of the impact - which is maybe less critical when hiking. For example, I used to love my Altra Lone Peak for hiking, but would get heel issues if racing with them.

@lykkereuther8565 Месяц назад

@@runningwithsimon Thank you for your answer

@Op3rate 3 месяца назад

I don’t run (maybe a mile here and there) and I hike 5-7 miles per week, but I’m interested in ultra running for no explainable reason. Where would I even start? I think the “impossibility” might be why I’m intrigued. Also I have the speedgoat 5s lol.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

I myself started from mostly hiking. And not regular hiking - more sporadic (I'd go on a trip - hike a bunch, then not much for a while). I think first for me it was slowly but surely I was increasing mileage on my day hike. Not with the endgoal of distance or anything, but simply because I wanted to see more. Maybe a 9 miles hike seemed like a lot, but next trip there's this 11 miles that looks cool - ok I can do it. What looked like a crazy day - I remember an 18 miles in particular - would eventually not even give me a pause. And occasionally, because of time constraint (say for example I know forecast is afternoon thunderstorm and I want to be off the pass) or just opportunity (a non-technical not-steep dirt road downhill) - I'd add some jogging. Next thing you know - jogging is more regular, and that opens up possibility in terms of hike. Now a 30-35 miles day is possible - not fully running of course, especially that there's always a lot of climb, but it unlocked what would be multi-day backpacking trip which became a tough day hike. And on the rare occasion I could take a full week off from work, that'd become a trail fest. I don't have the numbers, but I would think I'd often cover 150-200 miles in 7-8 days. Anyhow - that's about when I started more officially trail and ultrarunning. And I guess the point is that it took a lot of time and just slowly ramping up. You don't necessarily notice the increase but it's there. I know a lot of people came in more from a running background, but not so much for me

@Op3rate 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon I love that, it’s interesting as I feel on a super similar early stage path to what you described. Also in socal. Anyways, ran 4.5 miles today, basically a very slow jog, basically walking speed. Kept trying to go slower like you’ve said many times and finish fresh as my goal at the end. That’s the farthest I’ve ever ran or jogged. And it wasn’t hard following your advice, finished fresh and definitely could have done more. Mind blowing to me but here we are. Thank you for your videos and helping to make my crazy ideas seem a little more achievable!

@ciaran1069 16 дней назад

What shoes would you recommend for rocky terrain wereyou toes and underfoot can get smacked. Thanks

@runningwithsimon 16 дней назад

The ones I've been using lately are Joe Nimble Trail Addict. The Speedgoat feel like an hybrid between trail shoes and road shoes - which makes them very pleasant. The Joe Nimble to me feel a bit like an hybrid between trial shoes and a slight touch hiking shoes - so very sturdy. Making them a bit less 'fun' to run with, but in very technical, they offer great protection. I actually switched to them mid race during tor des geants and that turned out to be a GREAT decision!

@MattisEriksen 2 месяца назад

What is the road version of the speedgoat? :)

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

That's a good question! Hoka has so many road running shoes, but I'm not as familiar with them tbh. I'd look for something with similar heel drop and similar cushioning, but don't know myself model that would be resemble that, sorry

@dazoruns 3 месяца назад

I tried the wide option - far too narrow for me unfortunately.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

Are you saying the wide option was too narrow too? Or that the 'normal' were too narrow but wide was ok? But yeah, they run narrow for sure - that's the main annoyance with these shoes

@dazoruns 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon I have shrek feet so yeah, even the wide option is too narrow for me 😀

@davidszachno2782 3 месяца назад

Yeah I found them super narrow even in the wide fitting and it really messed my feet up

@dazoruns 3 месяца назад

@@davidszachno2782 had to take them off after 10 minutes - my feet went numb almost immediately. but at least no blisters :)

@davidszachno2782 3 месяца назад

They really messed my feet up - even in wide fitting they are so narrow. My fault for not trusting my instincts. I also found that they are cut very low under the ankle so was always getting grit etc in them

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

They run narrow for sure - I hope they'll fix that for SG6

@ChisakiKana 20 дней назад

Is this better than Mafate 4?pls

@runningwithsimon 20 дней назад

It's slightly different. The speedgoat is lighter way - for me it's for less technical and more free flowing trail. I used the Mafate for Tour du Mont-Blanc and part of Tor des Geants (both fairly technical, so I did about ~150-200 miles + 40-50k ft with them - I'll post review in a few weeks/months). For what I typically run, I prefer the Mafate - but depends on the trail.

@NielsLaenenZoersel 2 месяца назад

Hoka Speadgoats, huge blisters. Saucony xodus, little toe blisters. Altra, no blisters!

@runningwithsimon 2 месяца назад

Bummer but glad you found the right shoe for you

@Alex-rf5xu Месяц назад

What trail shoes would you recommend?

@runningwithsimon Месяц назад

Depends on the trail/terrain. I like the speedgoat a lot, but maybe for things that are technical but not too rocky. I tried some speedland last weekend at leadville. They look kinda weird, but felt really good on my heels

@hawaiifranke7637 3 месяца назад

"loud fart" winner ... really? How does that work?

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

You mean from Cocodona?

@hawaiifranke7637 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon yes ... and also "sexy pants" winner ...

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

@@hawaiifranke7637 Have you watched the movie?

@hawaiifranke7637 3 месяца назад

@@runningwithsimon the hoka speedgoat 5 yes, the cocodona no but will do now

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

@@hawaiifranke7637 Oh I see. Well then it's just (bad) jokes related to what actually happens during the race

@russ4972 3 месяца назад

Literally just sent mine back under warranty as they had stretched out that much i couldn’t get lockdown on my foot.

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

That's unfortunate. How many miles on them did you have before that? They say the SG6 will be better for this, but yeah, that's disappointing. I didn't have issue with that myself

@emmarunyeard6832 3 месяца назад

Oooo I like the sound of these, I wear brooks cascadia and ghosts for road but after years of being a brooks person.. My last two pairs have felt 'less' in terms of quality so looking to change..

@runningwithsimon 3 месяца назад

@@emmarunyeard6832 It's interesting, right? I've also had models that I used to like, and then they release a new version or something change in the manufacturing chain or something, but I can tell it's different and I hate it. I hate when companies take shortcut on quality control for something that is supposed to be a good product.