The shaving process from what I understand , shaves the inside of the bat barrel which does 2 things. It lightens the bat as you made mention. It also makes the Barrel more springy. This increases the BESR. When the smallest guy on the team is launching lasers at the 3rd baseman and launching the ball over the outfield fence everyone knew something was amiss. I umpired a State Tournament for 12u and the team had 12 identical bats. All -3. Different lengths. However there was only 2 bats being used by the entire team. Unfortunately, as an Umpire, we have no way of checking it.
They’re taking the restrictor rings out of some of those bats , you can tell if you listen to a -5 bat ,the sound is noticeably loud if you hear a Demarini bat ,when a bat is hit and it sounds a little loud even being an alloy bat you’ll know something is wrong soon as you see the ball come off the bat the trampoline effect is much greater and the ball carries much further basically putting the ball to wall or over the fence with minimal effort. The whole concept is to make a -3 BBCOR Bat swing with the weight of a -5 . Also to cheat bat speed because now a player can get the bat in the zone a lot faster being that the weight used to dampen the bat is no longer there so the player can ultimately catch up to faster pitching .
Most bats don't have restrictor rings in them. And you can't always tell by the sound of a bat. Demarini composite bats don't have a loud sound to them and the more broke in, they start to sound like a wet newspaper hitting a wall. Alloy bats have a louder sound, but I'm pretty sure shaving an alloy bat would lead to denting and cracking of that bat.
The problem is now people add epoxy to correct the weight. Now we need to use a compression tester to find an illegal bat. It does happen and is an issue.
You couldn't go by the weight of the bat anyway. Most bat weights are not what they say on the bat. Many of the older bats are much heavier. And a broken in bat could have a low compression rating just like a shaved bat. There is no way to tell unless you open up the bat and look at it.
Extremely prevalent at all levels of travel ball and obvious to hear the difference and witness the performance of the bat. Research last years Hawaii team and when their bats arrived at the LLWS. Furthermore, those of us that played and have coached the game for years know exactly when they hear it and see it. Problem is, I have only witnessed one umpire enforce this discrepancy over the years, as it is very difficult to measure the bat and most are unwilling to do so. Lastly, with all of these showcases and internet recruiting that is taking place it is very difficult to decipher a legitimate stud from a video when he is utilizing said bat. Wood bats certainly help the scout and the recruiter make better decisions but, in the end a ball player either has it or he doesn’t. Sadly, the legitimate player can be overlooked due to this fact and that is the true catastrophe.
Bat rolling is cheating because it's against the rules of every popular ruleset I'm aware of. Whether it should be is another argument, but as long as it is, it's gaining an unfair advantage and putting other kids in unnecessary danger if not for the cheating.
So I believe this does go on at the youth level. I believe these companies that shave bats started out doing it for slow pitch softball. But there seems to be some misinformation in here. All bats sound different. The older composite ones sounds extremely weird once they are broken in and they are extremely hot as well. Also, you can't go by the weight of a bat. Most bats don't even weigh what they say they do. Also, I don't believe people are shaving alloy bats. Doing so would cause the bat to dent and break. The only way to possibly check for an altered bat would be through compression testing. And even then, a well broken in legal composite bat could have a lower compression than a shaved bat.
thats the problem is all the money involved and parents living through there kids if a kid is caught with a shaved bat the parents should be charged with a crime like putting kids in danger....its the parents
Wow you are totally uninformed. Just watch a college game and listen to the ping . You can go to local auto parts store. And for 20bucks and a drill. That's why colleges use the Omaha, the cheaper Demaarini, voodoo. The cheap Rawlings. They are sponsored by Big manufacturers, and can pick any bat they make for free. But they use the cheaper one that they buy themselves.
You aren't shaving a bat with anything from an auto parts store. And colleges have to swing the brand that sponsors them so they are limited to what they can swing.
