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Are SIU's Blogposts Even Canon? 

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This question has been raised recently and I wanted to discuss it: are the blogposts in Tower of God canon?
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@meshari1792
@meshari1792 6 месяцев назад
I think it’s canon until he decides to change it in the main story Edit: 10 seconds and I got proven wrong kinda
@rageikku9398
@rageikku9398 6 месяцев назад
Not really i agree with you 💯
@HakuOfTheTubes
@HakuOfTheTubes 6 месяцев назад
I've always said that you should treat the blog post info as "what you would hear in the Tower". The truth that we get in the actual story about these important lore characters might differ, but these are just the basic rumors that you'd hear living in the Tower. The issue is that the blogposts are not just almost always true to canon, but that SIU will often throw out characters and concepts in the main story without any extra explanation, that you wouldn't really know without the info in the blog posts. I do still think that the blog posts(at least the early ones) are something that everyone reading ToG should read.
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
100% agree and great way to look at it. That’s pretty much my point in making this video, the blog posts feel so integrated into what we see in the chapters that considering them “non-canon” feels wrong imo
@Nightdreaux22647
@Nightdreaux22647 6 месяцев назад
​@@drboneheadLuslec is cannon though. And he was mentioned in the blog way before SIU even started Season 2 LOL !!!!
@antoninchenel5192
@antoninchenel5192 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree. Seeing the blogposts as rumors mays explain the story of Yama. We (inhabitants of the tower) consider him as a slayer and imagine him as cruel (as he was first described). But we (readers) know now that he's different. Besides, we should also consider that he has the attitude that we know towards Bam cause he's an irregular, slayer candidate and so on. He could be very different towards a lamba non-regular person.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 5 месяцев назад
I really like the way you framed that 🙌🏻
@Serene0910
@Serene0910 5 месяцев назад
I don't read them but I will from now
@radiosilnce
@radiosilnce 6 месяцев назад
Wait the part about Tu Piere not being mentioned as a part of the 10GF in the webtoon itself is actually wild😭😭
@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773
@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773 6 месяцев назад
it's totally right 💀 tu perie and his family have never been mentioned in the webtoon...not at all meanwhile bladmadder and his family are also not mentioned at all by name eurasia family has also not been mentioned at all until ch 581 where we see blossom's name getting mentioned for the first time in the webtoon
@radiosilnce
@radiosilnce 6 месяцев назад
@@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773 righttt it’s so crazy😭 but I was also thinking about Bloodmadder’s family too bc we don’t have any known Tu Perie’s but we do know 1 Hendo Lok so I went back to check and they were actually mentioned in s2 chapter 154! And are you sure about Eurasia because I remember it being mentioned that Phonsekals like Laure and Irure are a branch families of Eurasia’s so they’d have to be mention at some point in the Webtoon right lol?
@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773
@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773 6 месяцев назад
@@radiosilnce i know phonsekals being a branch family of eurasia family, but i don't remember it being stated in the webtoon ever...i might need to reread it but definitely don't remember lol EDIT: also about the bloodmadder's family...i know we were introduced to 1 hendo lok, but again i don't remember them stating that the person was from hendo lok family 💀
@radiosilnce
@radiosilnce 6 месяцев назад
@@mehaplebypotatocalledtaqwa4773 ah same I need to reread bc I definitely feel like they mentioned that they were apart of the Eurasia family but idk fs tbh (EDIT: nvm you’re probably right I think it was only stated in a blog post lol😭which is so interesting like there’s just some tower of god readers out there who have no idea which Great Family Laure is from or even Irure which makes her whole thing with her uncle seem a lot less interesting :D) But yeah I just looked up the hendo lok guy on the wiki and since he was only in 2 chapters i just decided to reread them and that’s where I saw they mentioned the family… I think it was Arkraptor saying that they have the most durable bodies out of the 10GFs!
@lazyreader0
@lazyreader0 6 месяцев назад
I consider the info from the blogposts as the first draft of an idea that SIU wanted to share that probably won’t be exactly the same once introduced into the story
@CamusZekeSirius
@CamusZekeSirius 6 месяцев назад
So, there’s mainly two ways I handle the blogposts: In the strictest sense of canon, as in, what is mentioned in the story is what is canon, and nothing else, then no, they are not canon But how I generally like to treat it is that the blogposts are SIUs intentions to expand upon the world in ways he hasn’t been able to do so while in the arcs he’s telling, and so the blogposts are his intentions for the story he is making And so in that sense, I treat it as “canon until proven not to be”. Although, him taking it down could be how he has come to reconsider some things. But I will say that so far, the only thing directly retconned was the whole Yama thing with Bayroad and Immort and such. Other than that, things have lined up with the blogposts just fine But I also think that Bassoon Sonata’s take would work with me as well
@RealLifeIronMan
@RealLifeIronMan 6 месяцев назад
In short, the blog posts reflect what is real to SIU at the time, but he is free to change his mind before they enter the story. For example, Yama really was a crime lord when SIU wrote that on the blog. SIU changed his mind later and turned Yama into something different. It is a matter of perspective. You could see blog posts as rough drafts that can be changed, or you could see them as canon with possible retcons.
@Urekyu
@Urekyu 6 месяцев назад
I think blog posts don't NEED to be considered cannon. But they have merit as grounds for theories.
@jhoantf10
@jhoantf10 6 месяцев назад
I think one of the most important things that we all take for granted and cannon is the ranking of the strongest 20’s, without it actually be confirmed inside the story excepting cases like Urek or Jahad (I think their top 4 and 3 were confirmed in the story maybe not, I dont remember) and maybe some other strong character that I am forgetting, but I just reminded myself that because of the fight we got recently between Urek and Grace where I personally thought because of the information of their respective rankings that we got, that Urek was about to wipe the floor with Grace and it didn’t happen, true he said he was restraining himself but still. My point is that maybe even those rankings are changeable by SIU when he actually write or mention them in the story, or maybe it’s what another comment by Haku said that these post can be taken as “the rumors circulating in the tower” in this way the ranking that SIU gave us can be taken as either a very old one (who knows how these people in the top fight over their positions, I cant imagine them fighting every 100 years to see who has grow stronger) or maybe it was simply their respective power levels that the people has granted them over time and knowing their very important positions either as family heads, the king of the tower, the regular that fought on par with Arie Hon (Urek), the commander of the King’s army(Adori Jahad), the leader of wolkhaisong (Baek), the leader of FUG (grace) or the three lords, etc.
@therealriemann9239
@therealriemann9239 6 месяцев назад
Would you consider the stuff about axis etc semi-canon? Personally, looking at how long tog already is, I find it pretty difficult to believe that siu will have time to introduce the concept in the story
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
Same as Three Lords, semi-canon because we have evidence like Pentaminum and the Outside God, but certainly not confirmed
@zoro8579
@zoro8579 6 месяцев назад
Since this is an early comment, I hope you read this. I do not like to watch streams. period. BUT, your streams are something that I watch live or recording since they are so damn good. So, thanks for that. Now, when are we getting daily upload series back?
@safiskusai
@safiskusai 6 месяцев назад
be careful with TOG: New World, they are adding characters into the game that are introduced in Fast Pass content
@jetstream5801
@jetstream5801 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for all the great TOG content
@sirbassoon1844
@sirbassoon1844 6 месяцев назад
But what I also often say is a big factor in making something canon. It has to be officially published material. So if you were to do it like the one piece sbs than blogpost can become canon. Otherwise „the love interest/heroine of the story is alligator“ (SIU)
@BingusWeeb
@BingusWeeb 6 месяцев назад
The only thing that's canon is webtoon. Blogposts are not canon imo. This also means the term "Axis" isnt even canon
@Susarou
@Susarou 6 месяцев назад
Man I really miss Wangnan. 😢 I am happy to see him soon in the anime. ❤
@JackOfTrades115
@JackOfTrades115 6 месяцев назад
I just take it with a grain of salt, he removed them for a reason, they’re more like source material he took from and altered as time progressed, the only thing I keep somewhat serious is Phentaminum and that’s strictly because he was mentioned in season 1, the whole Axis thing not so much until we learn in the story about it
@SleepyKurisu
@SleepyKurisu 6 месяцев назад
Joe uploading a video!? He must not be sick anymore, seriously though hope you're doing better Joe (Edit) In my humble opinion I don't think the community should be overreacting about certain posts getting taken down by SIU and such and I believe everyone he has made is canon until proven otherwise My basis for this is well, personal experience As a small time writer ik the feeling of wanting to add more to your storys story and there being things fans are curious about that aren't explained in the main story so I believe SIU uses his posts to address these things as many and as often as positive as for why he'd remove any I think it would due with current and near future writing for the story of Tog
@christopherarenas1115
@christopherarenas1115 6 месяцев назад
Hope everyone's doing well today
@Fenrys_Writer
@Fenrys_Writer 6 месяцев назад
"Escanor is not canon to Tower of God" What a tragedy. Someone's gotta get him out of the 7DS Also about the mobile games, I think only New World can be treated as having canon information since it's the one SIU was consulted on. The game, aside from being a way to tell ToG's story in a mobile adaptation, seems to be a way to expand on character's backstories that we haven't received in the manwha. The latest event with Lero Ro and Yuri, as well as the Khun Family event, the Endorsi Halloween event, and the Vicente short story, all exist to expand a character and their relationships with others. As for how canon New World is, I'd say while you can't necessarily take the events and short stories as 100% canon, I do think the emotions behind it (such as Kiseia's relationship with Khun or Endorsi's guilt) could be considered canon.
@wilmaso
@wilmaso 5 месяцев назад
I was talking to my friend about TOG, he just caught up to the recent chapters... and i started talking about rankings. He asked me how do i know these things. My immediate response was the blogpost dude. And i started wondering whether they were cannon or not.
@villainreacts936
@villainreacts936 6 месяцев назад
many blogs always feel like a folder for new ideas for the authors, a place where they can reflect and even gain something from readers, almost like a scam or a tool of writing for me ahah
@SauceDon32
@SauceDon32 12 дней назад
So basically Web novels vs Light novels?
@savagecabbagedank3771
@savagecabbagedank3771 5 месяцев назад
Been a while since I've watched your content, but gotta say, loving the new set up! Also your hair reminds me of Season 3 Baam ngl
@mrbubbles6468
@mrbubbles6468 29 дней назад
No. If it isn’t in the story or a sequel or spin off that the author confirms is canon it is not. If he wanted his tidbits to be canon he could put them at the end of each volume like other authors do
@yanis3467
@yanis3467 4 месяца назад
Why do we say canon/non canon ? In some TOG theories in French they also use it but I dont get why we use that specific word
@lofimonki
@lofimonki 6 месяцев назад
If it means Chang is alive then I am team non-canon
@hermi1-kenobi455
@hermi1-kenobi455 5 месяцев назад
im gnna be upset if there isnt a race of wraithraisers, though. Why else does he call them turtles?
@kat673
@kat673 6 месяцев назад
I feel like SIU's blogposts are out there to see how the fans will react to specific ideas. If people react well, then maybe that idea will become canon later on.
@justalittleweird415
@justalittleweird415 6 месяцев назад
I feel like the more "world-buildy" blogposts are generally more likely to be true, since usually even in a first draft, the worldbuilding should be fairly consistent. So stuff about Wolhaiksong's founding, FUG, and the Tperie family seems more likely to be canon, since they form the foundation of the ToG world (not to mention, the Opera Lighthouse has been brought up before, so it's supports the theory of the Light Bearing family). Yama's backstory seems more like an exception than the rule, and depending on how it's seen, it's not *as* integral to the world as, say, an entire great family. Of course, any info not officially published in the webtoon should always be taken with a few grains of salt (if not a whole bucket), but I think for some information we've been given in the blogposts, it's safe to think of them as "canon" if only just to be able to reference them more easily.
@austinyun
@austinyun Месяц назад
Ay is that Beneath Dark Waters? Sick
@nataliawineland34
@nataliawineland34 4 месяца назад
I have not read TOG in so long. Where is Wangnan😭
@sterron8377
@sterron8377 5 месяцев назад
Are u Dyrroth from MLBB? 😳😳😳
@hermi1-kenobi455
@hermi1-kenobi455 5 месяцев назад
first draft seems correct to me
@ironmanders3469
@ironmanders3469 5 месяцев назад
Are you wearing a Oura ring?
@aronabraham4657
@aronabraham4657 6 месяцев назад
ILY BONEHEAD, pls do another theories discussion 🙏
@radiosilnce
@radiosilnce 6 месяцев назад
The editing on this video was done so well + I really still love the “new” background so much!
@Chryxsillis
@Chryxsillis 6 месяцев назад
The setup is so cleannnnnn! Great vid joe.
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@superior_matt
@superior_matt 6 месяцев назад
As a Chang fan I love when you bring that up lol
@quanti5
@quanti5 6 месяцев назад
This sounds similar to Star Trek and "beta canon" when referring to books, comics, and games. They are to be considered "canon" unless contradicted by "alpha canon" being TV and Movies. I guess blog posts would be TOG beta canon.
@ChinkyChickenxx
@ChinkyChickenxx 6 месяцев назад
The interesting thing is that SIU has an in-universe law preventing things from being rewritten once they happen in the Tower, or universe (I forget which one). On a spin-off thought; this means that, on the off 0.0000000000001% chance backwards time travel happens in the plot, the current timeline wouldn't be able to be rewritten and any events being changed would be a seperation from the original story.
@darkfinitynabil4412
@darkfinitynabil4412 6 месяцев назад
Im 100 sure tower of god main villain stronger than end of rachel ability , 10 great family , bam's mother / father , urek , jahad , all administrator , headon and enryu combined and lower than phantamanium or hybid irregular / axis type beings .
@brwhite5368
@brwhite5368 6 месяцев назад
The blogposts are like Star Wars legends are to the modern canon story. Bits and pieces are use but the canon story is still independent from those materials.
@rakwraithraiser7315
@rakwraithraiser7315 5 месяцев назад
I always thought the blog post was like the sbs from one piece
@Errabbs
@Errabbs 6 месяцев назад
After catching up in the manhwa, TOG feels like it a giant tribute to Plato’s Allegory of the Cave
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 6 месяцев назад
Canon until it contradicts the story. That's how it has always been.
@Yoda3000
@Yoda3000 6 месяцев назад
I like the way how one of the comments phrased it, that we should treat the blogposts as if they were rumours and we were tower residents since residents inside the tower would hear this information.
@9uR-z2s
@9uR-z2s 6 месяцев назад
so basically don’t watch any of ur old videos? 😭😭
@lutr0_679
@lutr0_679 6 месяцев назад
Canon until proven differently in the main story tbh
@animekijannat4863
@animekijannat4863 6 месяцев назад
Waiting for new lore videos 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@Greeniu2839
@Greeniu2839 6 месяцев назад
Haven't seen the video yet but thats a one great looking setup
@Havoc-kun
@Havoc-kun 6 месяцев назад
I consider it to be soft canon
@kingviaa
@kingviaa 6 месяцев назад
Could you please start reviewing other webtoons🥲. I love your TOG content though!!
@igorruste1187
@igorruste1187 6 месяцев назад
They betta be they toooo interesting
@Sam_Hoi
@Sam_Hoi 6 месяцев назад
I just take it with a grain of salt
@denzelsoto4410
@denzelsoto4410 6 месяцев назад
Yo! Great video, btw, have you seen the extended footage of the Tower of God s2 trailer? Apparently the one crunchyroll showed is incomplete and there was alot more footage like a bit of voice acting and they even show ehwa🎉
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
Yes! I reacted to it in last Sunday’s stream!
@Pyro_Vortex
@Pyro_Vortex 6 месяцев назад
Does anyone have a link to the blog post in the 1st second of the video? I wanna download the art. Also where does one find SIU's blog post?
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
It's from Chapter 518's blogpost, and here is an archive to the blogposts from SIU! towerofgod-blogposts.tumblr.com/
@sirbassoon1844
@sirbassoon1844 6 месяцев назад
Nice to see I made it into the video
@anandarez
@anandarez 6 месяцев назад
Awesome lord bonehead
@lemon163
@lemon163 6 месяцев назад
Cool background
@OfMyMemories
@OfMyMemories 6 месяцев назад
2nd
@MoontariReacts
@MoontariReacts 6 месяцев назад
SIU should do a TOG novel
@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT
@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT 5 месяцев назад
Yes!
@sirbassoon1844
@sirbassoon1844 6 месяцев назад
The word semi-canon……no I won’t be going over this again why this is such a terrible word
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
Lmao it leans towards “canon until proven otherwise” but even aside from that, it means we can safely assume (based on SIU’s track record) that blog post information will be extremely reliable and we can use it to fuel conversation, theories, expectations, etc. But it is not confirmed. Like, us assuming that the last family is the Tu Perie Family makes sense. Is it confirmed? No. But until we know what the family is, us calling that last family “Tu Perie” and using that as our basis makes tons of sense imo.
@sirbassoon1844
@sirbassoon1844 6 месяцев назад
@@drbonehead the thing with the word is that something either is part of the canon or it isn’t. There is no in between. Semi - Canon is just sources that aren’t canon and have a good chance to be canonized. But when something isn’t part of the canon it’s non canon. And I’m always having the opinion that as long as SIU doesent something like the SBS from one piece that the blogposts aren’t canon But ofcourse there isn’t anything against taking the blogpost information into consideration. It has always lead to fun or terrible theories
@sirbassoon1844
@sirbassoon1844 6 месяцев назад
@@drbonehead Spoiler for todays chapter and funnily enough todays chapter showed us a change in the Family Heads with the Yeon Family Head named Ilang
@Jason-gk1jb
@Jason-gk1jb 6 месяцев назад
Hello 👋
@drbonehead
@drbonehead 6 месяцев назад
Hiya!
@glimmerz3464
@glimmerz3464 6 месяцев назад
Wtf does canon mean
@matthewspeight7285
@matthewspeight7285 6 месяцев назад
Kind of like fiction and nonfiction. Canon means it’s a true fact to the world or story. Not canon means it’s not really true to the story. Like Star Wars. They have lots of books now that are not canon to the universe. So it’s not really apart of the time line. Never happened
@glimmerz3464
@glimmerz3464 6 месяцев назад
@@matthewspeight7285 that’s a great example im a star wars fan
@charankumar7254
@charankumar7254 6 месяцев назад
Latest chapter was released 617 FH faces were revealed pls react on it
@lulcy95
@lulcy95 6 месяцев назад
If it's not writen in the main text/source itself (webtoon in this case) then it's not part of the story, simple as that.
@shaggyzd
@shaggyzd 6 месяцев назад
Tower of God games are absolute trash, both of them. One has like 4 versions of only female charachters (stupid rachel, lolita rachel, bikini rachel eww etc.) the other one after few month does collab when it has plenty of actual manwha characters to add to the game.Just wanted to point that out
@darkfinitynabil4412
@darkfinitynabil4412 6 месяцев назад
I think tower of god author SIU blogspot are max 90% are canon and 10% non canon . That's not matter even not including in main story .
@Orjari
@Orjari 6 месяцев назад
blogpost is a joke
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